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A Waste of Time with ItsTheReal IX

Nov 21, 2013

JR
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Nov 21, 2013

This week in rap.

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

Oh hey
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

Another week, another week that things are happening in rap.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

You know how these things go.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

Happy Outkast Reuniting Day!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

Wait...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

Outkast is happy?!?!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

Oh, sorry: Mixed-Emotion Outkast Reuniting Day!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

How happy are you that Outkast is rumored to be playing at Coachella next year?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

Outkast's reunion has turned, over the years, into Detox
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

or a Justin Timberlake album
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

or Daft Punk
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

I think I'd like an Outkast reunion, just to see what they're like around one another.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

It'd be nice to see Andre be nice to Big Boi, right?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

I don't know that I'm interested in new music from them, though.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

I'm excited for the true Outkast fans
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

because they've been put through the ringer time and time again
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

*wringer
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

point: Jeff
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

But I mean, does a "reunion" mean anything if it's onstage for just one night?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

And on the wrong side of the country?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

well, let's consider what got them here in the first place
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

I wish the Outkast reunion happened in Atlanta.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

that's a great point
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

Things that Atlanta needs:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

the Outkast reunion
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

- The Braves to stick around
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

the Braves not to move
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

righ
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

t
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

Less strict strip club rules?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

Luda to really run a tour bus company like he did in the Welcome to Atlanta video
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

These are all great ideas. Let's run for city council.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

from NYC!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

Cause ATL doesn't need us
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

Mu'somethings never loved us, etc.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

by the way, I was at Bonnaroo (with you, incidentally) when Ben Folds Five reunited
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

and it was amazing
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

But then you have something like Wu-Tang where it can be very hit or miss.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

well
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

I feel like the wait has been so long
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

and it's not like they've had aborted tries
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

it's just been rumor after rumor
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

Right, I agree that there's a demand.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

and no one has committed to anything before
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

PEOPLE WANT TO SEE OUTKAST, I GET IT. I just don't know if Coachella (blugh) is the right venue.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

why not?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

they brought back Tupac?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

As a hologram, Eric.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

still
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

it was right at the time
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

I wonder if I'd be more interested in a hologram Outkast reunion...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“Big Boi performing with an Andre Hologram is what it will turn out to be”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

Ha! Oh man.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

Let's go over the past bunch of years
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

Okay, I'm in.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

who do you think won post-break?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

Big Boi put out music semi-regularly
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

at Def Jam
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

Right, which few people bought.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

Andre did a Gilette commercial
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

Right, and he's going to be in that Jimi Hendrix movie which seemingly will never come out?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

and people say is not good
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

I feel like it's been a very down few years for them, while apart.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

and also:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

Big Boi kept the hope alive for a reunion
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

while Andre sort of shrugged
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

and in terms of cosigns...
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

Big Boi kept telling the press that he and Andre were friends, but Andre was putting out statements about how "just because they are on the same record doesn't mean it's an Outkast reunion."
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

Andre really comes off as a not-nice guy in all of this.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

totally
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

it's crazy the songs Andre chose to jump on
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

"Walk It Out"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

with lots of artists not named Big Boi
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

and throwing a fit when Big Boi would join a remix and people would refer to it as an "Outkast reunion"
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

He's on a Capital Cities song.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

it's INSANE
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from Hershal Pandya

“"What A Life" with Devin The Dude was a strange one too... great verse though”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

Point: Hershal
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

I still like that verse
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

What do you think happened between the two of them?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

Because:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

and I like that song, strange as it may be
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

They do still hang out.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

So it can't be THAT bad.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

well, we can say that we've heard rumors that they weren't on the same page musically
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

so that begs the question
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

is this organic?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

or is it a zillion dollars
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

and who wins if it's the latter
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

I don't think it takes much to get on a stage with someone.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

People do that all the time.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

but I do think each one is concerned with legacy
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

as in:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

Big Boi wants to extend the narrative
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

and Andre may want to just close that chapter
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

But I had a conversation with a record executive last year, who said he was working on a "project" with them.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:17 PM

yes, that's true
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:17 PM

That it would be the return of blah blah blah.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:17 PM

but that could also be the exec trying to puff his chest out
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:17 PM

It could be! Totally could be.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from mike mcgrath

“summer is reunion season. money to be made. happens every summer.. Refused did it last summer and their morals were strongly anti-capitalist when they were a band. money talks.”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

I wonder if they'll do any other dates together, or if Coachella will put the kibosh on that.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

Andre strikes me as the type of guy who doesn't care about the money
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

That's true.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

AS EVIDENCED BY TURNING DOWN PRIOR TOURING DEALS
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

(all-caps for the absurdity of it)
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

Right, we've heard things that would speak to that point.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

so assume it does happen
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

and it does happen at Coachella
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

Wait, has none of this been confirmed?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

nope
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

not yet
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

RUMORS
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

Hahahaha, there's no way this is happening.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

like the Fleetwood Mac album
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

RUMOURS. WOURST BEHAVIOUR.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

lemme ask you this
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

would you rather
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

wait
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“yo! Didn't work in Firefox but I'm in with IE”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

Stephen, we'll pass that note along...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

also, I'm in Firefox and it's working for me
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

#humblebrag
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

okay. Would you rather see a full Diplomats reunion at a festival, or Outkast?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

While Eric's typing, what else do you guys think is happening in hip-hop?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

I'd rather see Outkast.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

Hear me out:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

go
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

I don't need to see anyone in Dipset besides Cam'ron and maybe Juelz.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

★ Spotlighted from Hershal Pandya

“What? You don't care to see 40 cal and Hell Rell on stage? Can you perform weed carrying?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

I mean, there'll still be all of those guys, just not the ones we know and love.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

Cam'ron has Cousin Bang and JuJu and etc. etc.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“have you guys seen Outkast live?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

I haven't seen Outkast live, but I've seen Big Boi...once. Eric's seen him more.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

To Steven's point about this being the 20th anniversary of Southernplayalisticcadillacmuzik...
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

But I'd probably like to see Cam'ron over Outkast, if we're being #honest.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

Andre doesn't strike me as the type to do a reminiscence show
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

like, he seems like the type to be "above" that
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

he's not gonna be doing the Rock The Bells tours
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

(if they come back)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

I think he thinks of rap music as a chapter in his life
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

Well, but isn't Jeezy "above" doing Thug Motivation 101 front to back?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

I think Jeezy (who got a verse from Andre too)...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

lives rap music as it is today
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

I'd say 50 would be "above" legacy stuff, but all he can do is perform GRODT.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

I think 50 lives it too
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

Sure.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

I don't think Andre lets rap define him anymore
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

he's trying to be an artist in the broader sense of the word
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

artiste
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

yeah
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“what do you think of Andre's acting career? I think he's awful but agree with Eric that it seems like rap is a chapter of his life”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

I think that Andre is defined by his mustache
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

His acting seriously bums me out. Or rather, the idea of it.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“#movember”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

Facial hair, and haircuts, matter
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

When he's acting, he always reminds me of Fonzworth Bentley.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

Like, that's the one role he can play.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

and when people don't change them to "act" really says that they're not serious about it
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

Right, totally agree.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

simple an idea as that may be
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from Brian Kraft

“who is a better actor.. mos def or andre3000?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

Don't they just pick terrible roles? I guess Mos Def?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

Mos, I guess?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

by the way
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

Blughgghhghghghgh remember when we saw that Be Kind Rewind movie?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

would people be complaining about "southern rap running NYC" if Outkast had a song that ran the summer?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

and was mainstream?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

and sold out a venue in NYC?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

No. But also: I wonder if that would EVER happen.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

I bet NOONE would say anything
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

yes it could
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

Oh, c'mon.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

case in pointL
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

HEY YA
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

That was an Andre song.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

And that was not like a Hot97 song.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

hold on
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

couple things:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

Also, that was a decade ago.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

1. if Andre committed to rapping in Outkast, he'd certainly do something that would be popular
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

for a couple reasons
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

and 2. Hot97 would ABSOLUTELY play that today
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

Well, now :(
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

also Bombs Over Baghdad would be HUGE today
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

But I think if anything, the real examples would be Ms Jackson and BOB
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

Right.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Brian Kraft

“Shout out to Gucci! my homie was his body guard in that Spring Breakers flick... ask Matt Fastow about it!”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

Brian, we're gonna see Fastow tonight
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

and we will definitely ask him about that
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

okay, speaking of southern rap running NYC...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

thoughts on our friend Maino?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

and his problems with Trinidad Jame$
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

Alright, the situation for those who don't know it:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

Trinidad Jame$ got onstage, said NYC rap isn't cool because everyone sounds southern, and that NYC is chasing the cool, essentially.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

Oh, and it's a big deal (?) because it happened in NYC.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

Personally, I don't care.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

I agree with a lot of what TJ said.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

But
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

I like that SOMEONE is defending NYC.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

I don't care either, mostly because it's Trinidad saying it
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

Right, if anyone's going to offer that criticism, it should not be Trinidad James.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

we can agree that it was a bigger deal with Kendrick saying he was the KONY, yes?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“exactly. If it was someone in hip-hop that had some clout, people would care more”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

It's a really manufactured conversation because there's of the NYC Twitter/blogger-bubble.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from mike mcgrath

“people put too much value in the comments of the irrelevant when those comments attack things you hold true, that are a part of your personality. essentially people catch feelings they shouldn't”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

Totally agree.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

I'd agree with that
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

I had a terrible sleep last night
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

and in the middle of the night I found myself watching the Hot 97 Morning Show's interview with DJ Mustard
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

Roc Nation's DJ Mustard
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

and they asked him about Trinidad's comments
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

and he didn't really care too much
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

he didn't think that the South really "ran" NYC anyway
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

which I agree with
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

but
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

when asked if he could make NYC artists hotter with his California/Southern sound, the answer was unequivocally YES
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

and I believe that
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

Right, I'm always confused when people say the South runs New York. Big KRIT got booed offstage here; OJ Da Juiceman, too.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

Well, but isn't there something nice about NYC having a signature sound?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

I miss regional rap.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from mike mcgrath

“the conversation feels dated. so much rap exists on the Internet, it's borderless. there's still certain sounds of course, but everything is a melting pot in this era.”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

Mike: I can see both sides
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

Of course I agree with Mike, but that doesn't mean I like it.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

well, there was something to be said about being the only person on your freshman floor who listened to souther nrap
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

but
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

the world is not that fractured anymore
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“I've never not listened to music based on geography”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

It's incredible that everyone can put out the same songs. It turns everyone into Diddy.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

no, ghostwriters turn Diddy into everyone
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAA
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

ADVANTAGE: ERIC
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

BING BONG
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

Well, let's talk NYC for a second
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

I know if I ask Jeff who reps NYC the best right now, who he'd say
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

AND IT'S NOT A JOKE, FOLKS
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

French Montana
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

Ehhhhh.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

I don't know. Maybe? I mean, that's who I like best.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

you meant to say Hehhhhhhhhhh
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

But he sounds like a mix of southern/Bronx.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

And not South Bronx.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

But: I do think his sound is the best and is the sound people should adopt.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“Bronson?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

But in terms of classic New York sounds? Probably like...uh...World's Fair or some such.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

you know what's funny about Bronson?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

Everything!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

POINTS!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

Bronson might be the new sound of NYC
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

strictly because he's not trying to be or talk like anything else
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

and I like the A$AP guys
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

We saw Bronson at a Cam'ron show, and 1.) he's enormous but short, and 2.) he was rapping along to every word and it was great. Perfect story.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

but there's a clear influence in their beats and their slang from Houston
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from Hershal Pandya

“There is nothing worse though than rappers who are stuck trying to revive the old "new york" sound...Like, what does that do for the genre?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

YUP
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

Bury the old New York.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

totally agree, Hersha;
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

Hershal
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

but I'll give Bronson this:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

Oh god, I just remember Joey Bada$$
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

remembered
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

He's a person.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

no one else is talking the subjects he is
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

like he is
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

Yes, Action, I think will cross-over one of these days.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

do you remember Joey took a meeting with Roc Nation?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

I do remember that. Such a weird person to look into for them.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

(Also, such weird sentence structure from me.)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

now, imagine a Joey Bada$$ x DJ Mustard collaboration!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

THAT WOULD BRING NY BACK
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

says the internet
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

and Jay Z would have had his hand in making it happen
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“what music from DJ Mustard would I know?”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

and we would never have to have this conversation again!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Anything with a super-sparse beat: "Rack City"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Stephen: I'm DIfferent by 2 Chainz
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

YG's "My N***a"
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Jeezy's "RIP"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

yup
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

he makes songs that are undeniable
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

I think he's super talented
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

Everything I like and Jensen used to hate but now probably likes.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

and you know who his biggest influence is?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

according to the interview I watched in the middle of the night?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

DJ Mustard's? Who?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

Lil Jon
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

That makes sense.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

which made total sense
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

but I never put it together till now
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

Alright, ten minutes or so left: anyone got any questions or topics?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

I have a few things
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

real quick
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

TONIGHT
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

we're gonna be doing a speaking engagement alongside MC Serch, Sway, Combat Jack and others!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

and we're gonna talk about how we almost got punched in the face by a rapper
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

If you're in NYC, you should stop by.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

8pm tonight
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

at Le Poisson Rouge
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

Well, one of the times we almost got punched by a rapper.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

tickets are VERY cheap
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

8 dollars at the door
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

okay, I saw a Wu Tang question
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“Wu-Tang reunion. Good or bad idea? Heard Rae's not too keen? I got tix for next week”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

We saw them at Summer Jam this year.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

people seemed to be excited on the whole
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

Well, let me just say:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

ODB's son joined them
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

I really enjoyed watching them, and I'm not a huge Wu Tang fan.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“saw them 17 years ago. ODB punched the soundman at a banquet hall”

JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

Oh. Well, there's no topping that.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

thanks Stephen!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

Later, Stephen!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“You never know, it could be a good show. It was in Utah after all...”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

Jake messages me on Facebook to tell me about the weirdo acts coming through Utah:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

Waka Flocka.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

he puts on a good show
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

with Steve Aoki.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

...sure
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

you know who dropped off the face of the earth?
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Jake's sister?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Jackie Chain
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Oh, true.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

he had a minute
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Where is Jackie Chain?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

like, one song with Nick Catchdubs
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

THEY SAY SOUTHERN RAP RUNS NYC
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

WHERE IS JACKIE CHAIN
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

Eric, who are you listening to?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

I'm not listening to Jackie Chain
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

I'm listening to the Black Album
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

Fresh.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

some Future
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

oh, Yo Gotti
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

I like Yo Gotti.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

who put on a good show the other night
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

Agreed, a lot of guests.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

I really like "Act Right" with Jeezy
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

here's a question:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

since Jeezy changed his name to just Jeezy...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

does he get a pass every time he uses "Young" as an adlib?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

which he does a bunch
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

Sure? I'm certainly not judging him.
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

Are you?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

did you see that Jeezy signed a management deal with Roc Nation?
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

I did. I don't really understand it, though:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

Is it CTE artists just being funneled under Jay's wing?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

Roc Nation is the new Facebook: if you're not on it, something's suspicious
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

I believe Roc Nation is just managing Jeezy
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

and maybe advising his artists?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from mike mcgrath

“i saw Jeezy perform once and i think it was one of the coolest rap things i ever saw live”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

Totally agree
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

he RAN Summer Jam a few years ago
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

HE IS GREAT, MORE JEEZY
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

when Nicki dropped out, Jeezy was the star
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

also:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

we had a chance to see Jeezy at the Highline Ballroom a few years ago, and we were denied entrance by the doormen
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

hell of a show that we missed
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

Jay as a surprise guest
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

still stings
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

We were denied entry because we were very late, coming from a Wiz Khalifa show in Central Park.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

stings
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

Jeezy is underrated
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

right?
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

Jeezy's underrated, absolutely.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rahul Pandya

“anyone realize how roc nation hasn't signed a single rapper since J. Cole (Jay Elec doesn't count, he's not a real person)?”

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Eric Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

when can Jeezy and Ross become friends again?
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

that's what I wanna know
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

Wait.
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

Is that true?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

Has no one signed to Roc Nation since J Cole in like, 2009?
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

Roc Nation the label?
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

Yeah.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

rapper-wise?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

That's crazy if true.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

I mean Jay Elec
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

But that was in 2010, too.
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

No one has signed in 3 years?
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

rappers
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

Right.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

to the record label
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

What other artists are under there?
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

Melanie Fiona?
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

Rita Ora
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

Oh sure.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

Willow Smith
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

Yeah, maybe no one's signing because
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

No music ever gets released.
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

Except for J. Cole.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

Bridgette Kelly
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

Bleh.
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

So yeah, that's why, Rahul.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

a bunch of people are managed by them though
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

then again...
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

Cole's been winning for them
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

Just a quick closing thought: I saw a picture of Nipsey Hussle taking meetings in Atlantic. So, I guess they fell for it.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

and if you balance that with Jay Elec, it's not so bad
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

Sorry, taking interviews.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

★ Spotlighted from mike mcgrath

“all i ever want to talk about is Chicago to be completely honest”

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Eric Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

Nipsey's wanted by a bunch of labels
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

I really really really like that Lil Durk mixtape.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

A RECORD EXEC TOLD US YESTERDAY THAT CHICAGO IS A WRAP
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

a guy who has a very good ear
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

Well, he means GBE/street records.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

right
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

I think Vic Mensa will get signed real quick.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

you saw him last week?
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:05 PM

I had the chance to, but I had to leave after seeing Ty Dolla $ign.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:05 PM

ah
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:05 PM

okay, real quick
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:05 PM

Also, I thought someone said "The Commissioner" was performing
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:05 PM

TONIGHT
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:05 PM

And not Vic Mensa
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:05 PM

we're gonna be speaking alongside Sway, MC Serch, Dante Ross, and a ton of others!
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

www.lepoissonrouge.com
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

it's gonna be fun
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

also, we're back next Tuesday
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“Send your jet for me”

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Eric Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

the 26th
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

Done and done.
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

Alright, I'm Jeff.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

I'm Eric
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

good Tawk
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:06 PM

Thanks for wasting your time with us!