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A Waste of Time with ItsTheReal XI

Dec 12, 2013

JR
Stage· 340 messages
Dec 12, 2013

What's really good in hip-hop this week.

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

oh hey
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

While it's brick city outside, we're glad you're here with us.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

Warmed by the glow on your computer screen(s).
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

Damn, it's almost the end of the year
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

we're now in the time of year where everything shuts down prematurely
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

which includes the record industry
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

and everyone's quick to get their records out for Christmas shoppers
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

did you do you Christmas record shopping yet?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

I bought R Kelly records for all the girls I'm about to Instagram DM. You?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

I'm shutting down my ears
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

it's a Tamar Braxton Christmas around these parts!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

But if you'd like, we can discuss rap
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

like, what's happened this year
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

what didn't happen this year
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“I like rap music just not a lot of the shit that came out this year”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

Oh.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

Alright, let's just figure this out: how is hip-hop looking going into 2014?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

like a State of the Union?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

Yea, that.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

The country is strong and getting stonger!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

GO ECONOMY
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

BUY RECORDS
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

In fact, I'd say this was a really great year for hip-hop
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

dare to argue?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

I think it was a transition year. Everyone dropped records, but no one's really running hip-hop right now.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

It's a toss-up, I guess, between Kanye and Drake, but neither dropped rappy records in 2013.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

but isn't that the point?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

like, where we're at as a genre?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

And so it's left to Kendrick, who also didn't drop a rap record in 2013.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

it's spread out amongst the many, many rappers?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

Just feels a little empty, but I feel excited for the possibilities?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

we're in a niche society
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

instead of everyone liking just one big artist, there's lots of artists who appeal to certain smaller sects
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“which albums did you guys actually purchase?”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

Jake, I'll answer in a second
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

Right, I really liked the Chance, Lil Durk, Kevin Gates, Yeezus, French and Drake projects.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

But there's little crossover between any or all of those.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

They speak mostly to "me" as opposed to - say - the hip-hop community-at-large.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

But - if there's no one leading the charge and really owning hip-hop, does that make the culture shrink?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

I don't think so, especially as compared to every other genre
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

to answer Jake, I bought 2 Chainz
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

I bought Travi$ Scott
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

I bought Lil Wayne
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

and that may be it for rap...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

but I soundcloud'd a lot
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

and YouTube'd a lot
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

For whatever records I purchased, I feel like I streamed more.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

Like, that's been a big thing this year
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

the transition to streaming
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

wanna know why?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

BECAUSE THE INTERNET
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“because noone's putting out great albums, only mediocre. little incentive to buy”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

I agree/disagree with that.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

Like, I think people think there aren't great albums is because there's so many options.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

And so how can one suffer through 12, 13, 14 tracks of something when you cherry-pick the few songs you like and move on?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

There's no chance for anything to grow on you anymore.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

agreed
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

So, everything is just whatever your first impression is, pretty much.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

also: people rely TOO heavily on critics telling them what's great and what's not
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

people need to decide for themselves
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

But it's impossible to decide for yourself, because there's SO MANY OPTIONS.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

stop, Jeff
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

So, if someone says "THIS IS TRASH" why listen to it?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

"I heard that French album is garbage."
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

and you listened to it anyway
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

And then you don't listen to it.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

I only listened to it because of his Summer Jam performance.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

And it ended up being my favorite of the year.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

Otherwise, I would've gone along with the crowd.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

so is the moral of that story that live performances have a great effect on purchasing music?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

cause I'd agree with that
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“I can't stand French Montana, but I respect your opinion, so I listened to it. Still couldn't get into it”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

Yes, absolutely.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

Well, I'll leave this one to Jeff, who has become the flag bearer for French
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:17 PM

I get why people don't like French; I just think he plays to certain sensibilities that exist on this side of the Hudson.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:17 PM

I do believe that - if you like your hip-hop loud - it's a slam dunk.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

I wonder how he would've done under Kanye's GOOD umbrella, though.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

Okay, let's talk about what work work work work worked this year
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“that Trap Lord album took me by surprise this year”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

it's funny...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

I found myself being partial to singles this year, over albums
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

now, I've sat through a lot of listening parties this year
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

and some feel VERY long
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

and some feel right
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

Juicy J was WAY too long
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

Right, I was about to say. Juicy J's was "Bandz A Make Her Dance" for an hour.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

like, why not just sell singles if you're Juicy
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

there's an immediacy
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

and you're not bowing to tradition
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

What do you think you missed out on this year? Is there anything you're like, "Oh, I should catch up on that?"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

a lot, I think
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

Anything you will catch up on?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

hard to say
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

actually...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

I still haven't listened to the entire Kendrick album
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

is that crazy?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Hershal Pandya

“I think we got spoiled as rap fans this year. Particularly over the summer...But fans will go back to having to digest albums soon cause the big name albums won't be released for another two years now at least.”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

Hershal, I'm not sure I agree
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

Kanye will be back soon with a solo album
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

and I bet that takes over the radio 100 percent
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

Back to Hershal: I think that some of those albums were just mediocre. I do wonder how Jay's MCHG will be viewed in a year's time.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

★ Spotlighted from Laura Del Rey

“I know where you both stand with this (and I couldn't agree more) but seriously......what is it that makes people like macklemore?!”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

ah Macklemore
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

okay
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

Well:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

Well:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

here we go
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

My thinking on Macklemore is this: you know how people send links around on Facebook, like Upworthy and (sure) Buzzfeed?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

Like, those photos that will make you feel whole again or whatever?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

I think that's Macklemore. I think he's the guy who's like, "Hey! How about equal rights? How about not spending money on shoes and being a 'consumer'?"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

I think this
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

(It's the Ellen-ization of society, and it's no wonder Ellen had a huge part in his success.)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

I think Macklemore hit because he's what is acceptable throughout much of this country for what their idea of rap should be
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

But really, the reason for his success is Ryan Lewis.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

and much of this is driven by kids in high school and college who want anthemic songs with VERY wordy raps, with broad messaging
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

Agreed.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

like, if you listen to Thrift Shop...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

it's the beat
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

it's not because people are like, yes, I can relate to his shopping habits
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

It didn't hurt that people like the coat because it's silly.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

kids want to say what he's saying, in the way he's saying it, over a catchy beat
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

it's not for me
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

"Macklemore in a fur coat? LOL!"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

but I understand his hustle and that kids might like that
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

"That's what rappers wear!"
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“Jeff likes his rap ignorant.”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

I'll take that on the chin, but to be fair: I listen mostly to Kanye/Biggie/Jay/Drake/others.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

Kendrick.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

it's interesting to look at the Grammys...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

and see that Macklemore and Kendrick are right up there with Jay
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

I feel like the Grammys listened to an entirely different iTunes than I did.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

because those are two VERY wordy rappers, talking about broad subjects
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

along with a staple, Jay Z
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

and those older, white voters put them there
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Laura Del Rey

“So much clarification.....I was stumped for so long. It's 'easy listening' hiphop for the world, and especially if the music speaks to the younger audience that's where the most money is it.”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

Laura, one more thing
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

we have to remember that kids like what their friends like
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

and so there was this title wave that started from the radio-friendly beat of Thrift Shop
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

(*tidal)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

and all of the sudden 9-year olds can't get enough of it
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

yes, tidal
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

and then radio says, this is a hit!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

let's expand it
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

and it's easily digestible
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

and the next thing you know, Macklemore is everyone
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

It doesn't hurt that they had 'epic' videos.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

and then those who didn't know him before, are not like, I should know him
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

yes, he makes big videos
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

and big songs
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

A lot of rappers are afraid to take chances. Macklemore - owing to skin color, for one - is able to take those chances.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

and this year, everything hit for him
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

or them
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

You'll never see Kendrick in footie pajamas.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

I disagree, Jeff
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

Like, I don't believe that he thinks he's taking chances
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

I think he really believes he's just doing him
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

I mean, "chances" in terms of hip-hop video language.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

and because of all of those things, it's become "cool"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

I really believe that this was like a Sliding Doors situation
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

where he could have been destined to be underground forever
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

but for one radio station programmer tapping their foot to Thrift Shop
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

Ha: "tapping their foot"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

and the rest fell like dominos
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

dominoes
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

ANYWAY
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

ANYWAY
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

ENOUGH ABOUT MACKLEMORE (?)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

was there un-Macklemore music this year?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

My Spotify suggests there was!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

I talked to Danny Brown for an interview, and he said his favorite trend of this year was that the South has lyrics again - in guys like Kevin Gates.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

So I'm excited about that.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

I think the same goes for Chance the Rapper, who comes from a similar circumstance (if not location).
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

but I mean, is it wrong to like the non-lyrical South?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

I feel like it's accepted now
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

Waka
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

etc
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

Of course it's not wrong.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“it is wrong”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

Although: the worst trend is - speaking of Waka -
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

Waka's doing EDM stuff now.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

Stephen: okay.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

ha ha
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

Blugh.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

let's look at some artists though
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

tell me if 2013 has been a plus or minus year for them
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

Okay.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

Shoot.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

FRENCH
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

Good year, bad sales, but I think he'll recover.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

agree
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

YE
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

Great year. The tour definitely helped some people understand his genius, even if his interviews sort-of did and sort-of didn't.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

I think Ye is headed for the biggest and most dynamic album of his career
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

which is saying something
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

I wonder what direction it'll be in.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

it's going to be the opposite of Yeezus, I believe
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

in many ways
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

Which is what?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

R Kelly is doing a country album...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

which is big, lush sounds
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

no, I think it's going to be based in rap
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

but it's not NIN
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

That's a good call. But is that too much like, say, Late Registration?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

Or Graduation?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

hmmm
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

well here's what we know:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

Rick Rubin is involved
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

Q-Tip is involved
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

Oh, so it won't be big and lush, if Rick Rubin's involved.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

so could be one, could be the other
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

I hope it'll be more Q-Tip.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

but in any event, a plus year for Ye
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

Yes.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

PUSHA
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

Good year, I think people really took those "Pusha IS rap" comments to heart.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

MAC MILLER
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

Most improved!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

FAB
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

Ew.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

bad year for Fab
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

Non-year for Fab.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

the best thing was the Studio tweet
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

JAY Z
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

(That being said, he has a song with French Montana called "FOH" which I sort-of hated myself for quasi-liking)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

Fab's not a bad rapper, Jeff
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

he just hasn't had a hit in a long while
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Hershal Pandya

“I dipped out for a bit and didn't have my say on Macklemore, so I'll add it it in here...I think it's crazy how much Macklemore's existence has sparked debates about culture appropriation and white privilege online. That's it. He sucks at rap.”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

It was going to be an eh year for Jay - his album was panned by many, including me - and then FWMyouknowigotit grows on you...and Tom Ford...and all of these songs sound better much later.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

Hershal: noted.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

It's still an uneven album, though.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from Hershal Pandya

“No one was calling cultural appropriation when timbaland and magoo made indian flute.”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

Yea, but that was before Tumblr.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

TIMBO
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

He didn't have a Pharrell year.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

but a plus year
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

good piece on him in NYMag
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

In that he made his friends again?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

Oh, I didn't read it yet.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

Suit & Tie
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

his work on MCHG
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

Suit & Tie is not. good. Eric.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

it's not bad
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

I did not like JT's album at all. It sounded better live, but ugh.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“honest question: who's still playing this year's Jay-Z & Kanye albums?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

I'm playing Yeezus still.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

I'm not
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

MCHG, I like the singles.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

But the album as a whole was bloated.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

And like, stupid.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

I mean, I'm still playing Jay Z & Kanye's collaborative album, WTT in 2013...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

Yeezus was not Kanye's best work
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

I really enjoy it.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

Maybe I'm just in a dark place.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

and you're allowed
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

I wore a lot of black and grey this year. Thanks all, for your concern.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

I need to listen to Action Bronson's album more.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

yet, when Jay does that, you laugh at him
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Stephen, I did not
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

I don't laugh at Jay for wearing black and grey!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

you say Jay doesn't know how to dress himself
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Yes, but not because of his color pallette.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

WALE
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Stephen, I promise I will
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

I think he missed a huge opportunity with the "Clappers" video.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

totally
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

he could have owned the summer
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

And I wonder how Fat Trel's signing will affect him within MMG's ranks.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

Wale has his own lane
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

I don't think it matters about Trel
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

Wale can sell a lot via the ladies
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

Sure, but Omarion has his own lane too.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

well, let's talk about this for a sec
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

We shall see!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

just because they're all "on the same label" doesn't mean that they're getting in each other's way at all
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

like, as Kanye said, if you make good music, you're on GOOD music
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

MMG doesn't deem Omarion the only one worthy of making music for the ladies
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

I think that's true...because of internet...but I also think there's only so many resources.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“that's why they are the untouchable maybach empire?”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

Jeff, come on
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

Alright, for the final ten minutes: you're not allowed to type anything without making a pun. Deal or no deal?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

(No deal.)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

HOWIE MANDEL
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

Buhhhhhhhhhh
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

(is that what you're talking about?)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

wait wait wai
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

you asked me to make a pun and then you "BUHHHHHH" me?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

this has taken a turn
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

GUYS, THIS TAWK IS OVER, I QUIT
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

(LOLLLLLLLLLLLL)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Laura Del Rey

“This was kind of discussed earlier, but do you think there was a definitive/dominant "sound" this year in hiphop? (eg. west coast, southern, alternative etc)”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

Hm. Eric?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

Laura, you're like the MVP today
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

I'd say, DJ Mustard
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

I was going to say that too!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

which is essentially bringing back the Lil Jon sound
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

which is cool with me
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

DJ Mustard was vvv 2013.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

a thought:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Crazy to think that it all started with "Rack City" two years ago.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

imagine if Joey Bada$$ signed to Roc Nation and then worked with DJ Mustard?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

;sladfjalsfja;gljli;ghiwoher;a
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

also, a thought:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

imagine if Kanye didn't get kicked off of the Ye-Lady Gaga tour after the Taylor Swift comments?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

would have been interesting
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

and the idea of what a BIG tour was/could be
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

anyway
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“Then we wouldn't have Yeezus”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

Then we'd only have happy Kanye.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

Then what would we write about?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

that's not true
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

808s was before that
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

808s was before Taylor
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

right?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

yes
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

and that was not a happy album
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

Yes. But sad Kanye is different from the wrath of Kanye.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

Of course he has EMOTIONS.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

But like, Yeezus comes from being the butt of America's joke.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

I'd disagree
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

And the racism. And the finger-pointing and ostracizing of Kanye
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

hmmm
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

I'm gonna disagree with that
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

I believe that was all from MBDTF
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

then he did Cold Summer
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

I think it's channeling those emotions in different ways.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

and the ideas of commercialism led to Yeezus
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

MBDTF was to make the best album he could BECAUSE he needed to prove that he was indispensible.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

Sure, but I don't think that's exclusive.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

well, something to consider next ime
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

time
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

Anyway: this has been a lot of fun!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

we're back next week
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

We are!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

it'll still be 2013
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

We'll miss you until then.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

Thank you all.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

thank you guys for your awesome back and forth!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stephen Upper

“peanut gallery: where you from?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

LOL: "ASL?"