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A Waste of Time with ItsTheReal XII

Jan 27, 2014

JR
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Jan 27, 2014

Recapping the 2014 Grammys.

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

oh, hi
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

Hey Eric, been a while.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

Alright, so the Grammys were last night. Some people won, everyone lost. A lot of the conversation seems to be revolving around the bad stuff, so let's talk about the good stuff really quickly.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

What do you think the Grammys got right?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:01 PM

Well, first of all, Twitter is really just a wind tunnel for vitriol, huh?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

I take some credit for that.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

(c) Jeff
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

okay, good stuff
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

Pharrell!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

Daft Punk!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:02 PM

Robot costumes!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

Pharrell in a giant hat speaking for the robots!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

The jam with Stevie and Nile Rodgers? Incredible.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

how about the idea that this is THE music award show
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:03 PM

this isn't the VMAs
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

yet still, Pharrell gave a speech for two guys in robot helmets who actually won the award
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

yet are so in character that they defer to him
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

it's pretty amazing
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

also amazing: the Daft Punk album
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

can't be mad at what they did
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:04 PM

This is the #future. And, on that note, we should talk about an award show that would ignore some as - say - Future.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

I also wanna say that Carole King was pretty great
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

and the Kendrick performance with Imagine Dragons was surprisingly effective
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

I agree. It made me like that song by Sara Bareilles that sounds like that Katy Perry song.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:05 PM

cause let's be honest, Rap-Rock isn't cool
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

I think - as a show - it was fine.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

and also, let's not forget that Jay and Beyonce did their thing at the beginning
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

I'd disagree with you on that
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

I think that I was bored with the show
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:06 PM

LL was boring
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

LL was SUPER boring.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

there were too many performances
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

and not enough awards
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

Right, 27 of them.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

And I think 10 awards televised.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

Plus the Pepsi Half Time Show.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

so, boring tv show
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

give me more drama
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:07 PM

less performances
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

Point taken. But like, let's talk about the actual awards, most of which were given to Macklemore, someone both you and I don't care for.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

sure
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

he's obviously the biggest point of conversation today
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:08 PM

and for the most part, people have said the same thing
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

I think Jon Caramanica said it the best in his piece in the NYTimes
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:09 PM

Macklemore is in an interesting position
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

but in maneuvering where he wants to go with this success, he may be saying something about rap and pop music
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

and where he wants to be positioned
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:10 PM

I feel like the most pointed tweet I saw was someone say: "Secret: No one would be mad if Macklemore made good music."
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

that's pretty spot on
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

Lemme say this
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

I HATE THRIFT SHOP
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

I have a super big problem with everything about it
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:11 PM

So, while it's a valid argument that Macklemore is "too white" or "too ____" for hip-hop, I think the problem lies in the idea that it's very mediocre/middle-of-the-road music.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

and I am miffed that that beat ANY other hip-hop songs
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

No one had a problem with Eminem. I feel like few would have a problem with Mac Miller.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joe Ades

“Agreed! His music isn't that amazing.”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

correct
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from Esau Nestor

“What is something good about Macklemore?”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

Macklemore is easy for most of American to understand
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

easy to swallow
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

I agree with his values: white liberal who likes rap.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

Pro-marriage equality, anti-commercialism when it comes to sneakers or whatever.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

Macklemore has catchy music that appeals to most people
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:13 PM

But I think that Macklemore is the Upworthy of music.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

And if I wanted to feel good about myself, I'd actually go support the causes, not support the guy who's supporting the causes.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

let's be clear here though, Macklemore's pro-marraige equality and anti-commercialism didn't get him famous
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

I disagree. I think that he appeals to a certain demographic, and that's absolutely why he's become famous.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:14 PM

He is the rapper that Ellen put on.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

um no
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

Macklemore put out Thrift Shop
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

which has nothing to do with the shoes, which he'd been rapping about for the prior year
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:15 PM

and it had nothing to do with marriage equality, which he rapped about afterwards
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

he made a single that was SUPER easy for people to sing to, to move to, and that was super-crossover
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

and when that took off, it lifted everything else up
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“you want to know the real reason?”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“Because the Internet”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joe Ades

“Thrift shop definitely made macklemore famous”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

My timeline's all screwy. He had NBA commercials in 2012, about how he'd never buy Jordans. He was on Ellen in October 2012, the week his album came out at #1.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

Doing "Same Love."
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

yes
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

but
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

When did "Thrift Shop" come out?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

hold on
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

when did the Jordans song come out?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:18 PM

THE YEAR BEFORE
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

and the NBA took it after he became huge
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

Gotcha.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

so Thrift Shop was the way in
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joe Ades

“wings was in 2011”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“Wings was like two years before Thrift Shop”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:19 PM

Right.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

people didn't say, well this guy has progressive views, let's champion him out of nowhere
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:20 PM

he had the most monster of singles
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

and it's not like it pushed the genre forward in a traditional sense
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

people look at Kendrick as a savior of hip-hop
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

"A return to lyricism"
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

someone who is moving the genre forward
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

Yes.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

and why he was not championed by the Grammys is what is mytifying
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:21 PM

mystifying
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

Well, that's an easy answer, though.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

No one was like, hey, we believe in shoe equality, let's give all the Grammys to him!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

The Grammy board operates on name recognition; it's a popularity contest.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

it was more, he's popular, he's what I know, he's what my kids know!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

and WHAT'S ALL OVER THE RADIO
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:22 PM

Right, totally agree.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

Which is why someone like Kanye gets shut out, why Kendrick gets shut out, why Jay Z and Justin Timberlake win with "Holy Grail," a song that everyone hated the minute it came out on the Samsung app.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:23 PM

Voters want what's safe, not what's artistically interesting.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

Because the committees are filled with old people who can check any old box they want.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

actually, I'll say this
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

Voters may want what's best
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

but they just aren't aware
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

so they're voting on things they just don;t understand
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

Right, like how I vote for city council members.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

Macklemore is very easy to understand
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:24 PM

"This person has a D next to their name, I will vote for them."
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

1. marriage equality
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

2. shoes
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

3. SALVATION ARMY
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

<3 salvation army gets my vote <3
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“When it comes down to it, game recognizes game.. and even Macklemore himself said Kendrick got robbed. As long as the artists are on the same page - all should be well.”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joe Ades

“Can we discuss our feelings on Macklemore posting his texts to Kendrick?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

ABSOLUTELY.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

but when Kendrick tells the story of his growing up in Compton, people probably either 1. Don't listen to it, or 2. Don't get it
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:25 PM

BECAUSE I HAVE FEELINGS.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

Right, they don't relate.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

Alright, about the texts that Macklemore posted:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:26 PM

I think that if he actually wanted to acknowledge Kendrick, he would've.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

I don't think he "froze."
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

I think this was him having cake/eating it too.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

That being said, it's a lose/lose situation. I don't know that I would've been satisfied by him talking about Kendrick up there, either.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:27 PM

Then he's the white-savior everyone hates him for.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

So, I don't know. I just want to know how Kendrick responded to the text.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

I think the bigger issue with the texts is him putting them out there
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

why in such a public way
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

To prove that he has black friends.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

It would have played much differently if Kendrick was the one who posted them
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:28 PM

point, Jake
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jake O'Connor

“That's a good point. It's kinda like when people make posts about themselves doing charity work. Would they really do it if they couldn't tell people about it?”

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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

Ugh
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:29 PM

imagine if Beyonce had won the VMA for Single Ladies?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

none of this would have happened
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

NONE.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

it's like the Butterfly Effect
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

hear me out
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

Yes, total domino theory.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

1. Beyonce wins for her artistic credibility
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:30 PM

2. Kanye doesn't lose his shit
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

3. Taylor doesn't become a victim
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

4. Kanye and Amber stay together and make their own babies
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

5. Wiz continues to make fun and cool music and not soften up
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:31 PM

6. Artistry is recognized over commercialism
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

7. Macklemore can wear his shoes however he wants
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

8. Eric sleeps well at night
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

If only we could go back in time and boycott Hennessey...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

Sidenote
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:32 PM

I think the shot of Taylor ALMOST winning is amazing
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

Hahaha, agreed.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

for Record of the Year
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

An ACTUAL surprise face from Taylor.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

Last night's show did great numbers, by the way
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

even though it was long and boring
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:33 PM

Alright, so let's get back on track: how do we fix the Grammys?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

what do you think
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:34 PM

Besides cutting performances and giving more awards?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

I think that the laws to get on committees are too stringent, given the times. The rules are that you have to have a certain amount of albums or songs on iTunes or in stores.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

I was talking to Andrew Barber (shouts to Andrew) who said that Chance the Rapper and Vic Mensa couldn't vote
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

Even though they've been streamed millions of times.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:35 PM

I think there's too much of a reliance on awarding old people for past achievements.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

So, Nirvana and Paul McCartney win.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:36 PM

But that would change if the voting body was younger.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

So that's my main change: fix the rules of entry into the voting body.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

You?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

hmmm...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:37 PM

I would definitely vote a board into each genre
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

They have that, though, no?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

I think it's important to have people who are knowledgeable and care about the genre
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

well hold on
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:38 PM

they have nominating committees
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

and then it's open to everyone to vote, right?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

Right, and that's the issue.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

the biggest complaints last night were not that J. Cole was left off
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

it was that Macklemore beat Kendrick
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:39 PM

so maybe the voting needs to be paired down
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:40 PM

What sucks is that these changes will never happen. If you make the winners more accurate artistically, then they'll end up as people few have heard of -- and that's when ratings fall off and people start screaming "WHO IS ARCADE FIRE?"
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

And Arcade Fire is NOT some band no one's heard of.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

ah ha
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

well
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

there it is
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

what sells ad time??
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

Macklemore
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

It's TV's fault!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

it's true
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

Okay, so if the Grammys are inherently flawed, then does that make the BET Awards more important?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:41 PM

Or the CMT awards?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

Or whatever niche genre?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

good question
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

Because it's for us-by us voting?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

I suppose...
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

FUBU, shouts to Daymond John.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

though the YouTube Awards were not a success
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

But that's because that's everything to everyone.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

see that raises the question: what do awards really mean anyway
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:42 PM

"The Internet" is too amorphous for an award show.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

Awards mean nothing when they give the awards to the wrong people.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

right
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

Shouts to Kanye's speech
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

But if they got it right, then it'd be incredible.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

Which is why we need to fix them.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

But this is an award show that has never recognized Snoop Dogg
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

Or Nas.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

Or Wu Tang.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:43 PM

who took 20 years to recognize Marvin Gaye
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Esau Nestor

“Awards mean you're very popular”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

See, but I hate that line of thinking, that "who cares about the Grammys" stuff.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

I guess...
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

I care about the Grammys!
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:44 PM

my favorite album of the year was Drake's
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

I care because it's how people perceive history.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

and where was that?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

Okay, that's a fair point
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

but it's flawed
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

It is flawed.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

cause now and forevermore, Macklemore is the face of taste
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

so congrats!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:45 PM

MACKLEMORE IS WHOLE WHEAT PASTA
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

hold on hold on hold on
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

I'm trying to live healthy
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

and I don't mind whole wheat
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

so lay off, Jeff
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Chris Pulver

“whole wheat is waaay too dark to be macklemore”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

Whole wheat pasta tastes like chalk.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

Macklemore is chalk.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

Is that better?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Chris Pulver

“macklemore is more like quinoa”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Point, Chris.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Would it be more beneficial to use year end lists and critic polls as markers of history?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Advantage, Chris.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Hm.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

I like that, Jake
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

I think
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

Which means what, Pazz & Jop?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

no
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:47 PM

it means more than that
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

cause they're very limited, I feel
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

What year-end list has clout and participation, though, if not Pazz & Jop?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

NONE
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

The problem with Pazz & Jop is there's no categorization.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:48 PM

but if we're thinking of how to refresh the system, then we can imagine, can't we?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

Right, so that'd be my ideal, I guess. A writing body, voting on a categorized bunch of boxes.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

but
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

But
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

if we're gonna try and revamp the Grammys...
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

here's what I'd do
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

shorten it
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

have five performances
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:49 PM

one each from the album of the year nominees
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

have a comedic host
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

(OR COMEDIC DUO)
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

Hi, Jeff
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

Hi Eric!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

How are you?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

and
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

fine thanks
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

Oh.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

trying to make a point
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

and
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:50 PM

have smaller voting bodies
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

and include a lot more awards
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

shrug
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:51 PM

SHRUG
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

who did you feel got snaked the most?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

Maybe we should bring back The Source Awards.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

like, who is waking up today feeling the worst
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

or the most angry with the Grammys
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

Hm. The obvious answer is Kendrick, but I bet he feels the wind at his back now, what with everyone hating Macklemore.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

I don't think he hates Macklemore
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:52 PM

No, not him.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Everyone on like "The Internet."
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

nor do I think that it gives him strength
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Wale definitely feels the worst
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Just generally, sure.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

Who do you think?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

I think Taylor
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

cause she knows heartbreak
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:53 PM

You think she felt inevitable and then got crushed?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

I think she always believes she'll win
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

I bet she screams at herself in the mirror, "YOU'RE A WINNER." Very Boogie Nights.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

like Andy Samberg was genuinely shocked when he won an Emmy
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

Taylor is all false
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:54 PM

So I think she slept in today
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Benjamin Jonas

“Like all things today this shit gets fixed when boring old white people can stop making insane amounts of money... Can we talk about Steven Tyler's dancing during Get Lucky now?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

Yes.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

hey Ben
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

Okay, let's talk hidden gems:
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

I'd like to say that Steven Tyler lost a bunch of bets
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

Steven Tyler singing at (at!) Smokey Robinson was highly enjoyable.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

clearly lost a number of bets
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:55 PM

Yoko Ono dancing was great.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Esau Nestor

“Taylor Swift dancing to Kendrick”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

Okay, wait, let's talk about this:
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

Here's why I don't hate Taylor Dancing Swift.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

Because if EVERYONE stood up, the show would be great.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

I wish more people were like Taylor Swift.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

this is true
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

I just wish Taylor Swift wasn't the one dancing.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:56 PM

she has more baggage though
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

and honstly, it comes across as privileged
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

If it's going to be Taylor Swift or no one, I choose no one.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

But if it's going to be Taylor and everyone, let it be that.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

She is so aware/unaware at the same time
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

it's kinda remarkable
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

Oh, absolutely.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

She also moves like a scarecrow when she dances.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:57 PM

Lurching.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

She's vvv Frankenstein.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

so to sum up
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

Jeff likes Macklemore
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

Wait, WHAT
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

THIS IS SLANDER
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

and is sad that everyone's so harsh
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

nooooooOOOOOOOOO
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

so lay off the guy, everyone
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

he's just trying to win awards for his songs about shopping
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

yuck.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Esau Nestor

“What about Nate Ruess' mustache?”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

Looks like a caterpillar.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

Wish it turned into a butterfly.
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

I wanted Nate Ruess' mustache to be a surprise for P!nk
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

Did we ever figure out if Pink was lipsyncing or not?
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

P!nk
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:59 PM

Sorry: P;nk
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

P?nk
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

P:nk
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

P.nk
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

Okay.
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

P¨nk
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

P´nk
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

Couple last things
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

★ Spotlighted from Emily .

“i dont think she was. shes been doing the acrobat thing for years now”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:00 PM

Ugh, same page, Emily. Same page.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

1. Everyone should follow us on twitter
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

@ItsTheReal
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

2. Everyone should unfollow Pharrell
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

2. Everyone should unfollow @TheGrammys on Twitter.
ER

Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

wait
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

unfollow Pharrell's Hat
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

is what I meant to say
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

I dunno, Eric, those are classic tweets.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:01 PM

Who knows what future antics @PharrellHat will get into?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

hijinks
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

!!!
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

3. Check out our latest video, Jews for Jesus Piece
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

"Windy out today!" - @PharrellHat
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

and forget about the Grammys - it's almost Oscar time!
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

★ Spotlighted from Esau Nestor

“My girlfriends a republican is my favorite”

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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:02 PM

"I'm a hat" - @PharrellHat
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

Thanks, Esau!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

"Still here!" - @PharrellHat
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

aight
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

I'm Eric
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

I'm Jeff.
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Eric Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

We're ItsTheReal
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

"And I'm @PharrellHat!" - @PharrellHat
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

LOL
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

@PharrellHat
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:03 PM

He's a character...LITERALLY.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

LOLOLOLOL
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Jeff Rosenthal · 7:04 PM

okbye