Eleanor Goldfield

Do Animals Deserve Rights? Marinade?

Apr 29, 2014

Lee Camp
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Apr 29, 2014

Activists Lee Camp and Eleanor Goldfield discuss animal cruelty, from cosmetic lab testing to the sprawling and sick CAFO's that churn out "beef."

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 10:46 PM

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Greets from oz c: Hi Eleanor, Lee and everyone. Thanks so much for all you do such kind souls that give me great hope. Apologies i haven't been around to much, out fighting for us. Yes i believe animals deserve their rights to live and be cared for.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 10:58 PM

Hello to my lovely co-host Lee.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 10:58 PM

Thanks all for coming! And thank you Courtney for making sure everyone knows you aren't here for Lee's comedy or Eleanor's singing. You are only here for the animals. Same with me. I can't stand my comedy.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 10:59 PM

Damn computer.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 10:59 PM

Hey Eleanor!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 10:59 PM

Hi everyone! Welcome to our weekly Revolting tawk
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 10:59 PM

First off - PLEASE tell your friends to join us! Post that you're here on Facebook and Twitter and FarmersOnly.com!!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

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I'm only here for the animals

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

As is sometimes the case, Eleanor and I are not always experts on the topics we want to cover. That's part of the reason we want to talk about them! And this is one of those topics.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

We are however both vegetarians.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

So that means you guys get be all informed and tell us how much we don't know!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

Indeed. Not an expert - I did read a really fascinating article today about a chimp who is essentially suing his owner
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

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Hi Lee and Eleanor, thank you for caring.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

There's a lawyer that is taking on cases of primates, orcas, dolphins and other animals
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

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so the west australian shark cull ended today, thank heavens!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

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My dog should have the right to vote!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

Blake, I would like the right to eat your dog.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:02 PM

suing for mal-treatment on the grounds that they have the ability to not only feel pain but have emotions
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

Do we have some meat-eaters here? I dare you to speak out. We promise we'll be nice. This is after all a friendly conversation.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

ugh maltreatment, not mal-treatment
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

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The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.nnMahatma GandhinnnThe greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.nnMahatma GandhinThe greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

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Hiya gang! Don't give my dogs any ideas.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

That Guy - Have you given it a lot of thought or it's just what you do?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

Courtney - Address the meat eater. Give him reasons you believe he's wrong. That should start some discussion, no?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

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I am a meat eater

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

That's an interesting question tho - if a person eats meat, are they anti-animal rights? are the two mutually exclusive?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

Otherwise I'll have to resort to making fart noises to get laughs - and that's not easy over text. Never quite as funny.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

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Agreed Comet! I hope our government are not successful in getting it exempt until 2019 as proposed :(

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

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I think we may judge animals by intelligence, communication, and the ability to make facial expressions. If you don't have at least one of these 3...your food.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

@Brandi - not at all. Well, I guess it depends on what you eat
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

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um is there going to be a discussion or is this like liberals anonymous where we all say hello & nothing really happens ?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

Someone just said I'm not here - Can y'all not see me?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

I mentioned just now the article about a chimp suing his owner for maltreatment
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

I can see your writing...not you however
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

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I have given it plenty of thought

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

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So this is strictly about 'food' animals?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

Very funny, Ele. Your snark is NOT appreciated.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

That Guy - Those can be replaced, no?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

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I believe animals should have the right to be protected from harm!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

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I prefer to hunt wild game when possible

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

I still am a meat eater, but not nearly as often as in the past. I loved my veggies as a kid and I still do.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

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I had an issue and had to reload the page to see the coversation

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

I've seen no ill effects on me over the past 10 years. Also heart disease is the number one killer in the US and I believe it's largely caused by meat.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:07 PM

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I love that people who declare "I'm a meat eater" never have any reasons. It's our default position in this country -- which wouldn't be quite so awful if we didn't produce and eat meat in the way we do.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:07 PM

@Katie - that's so often the case. A lot of people who eat meat have never heard of CAFO's or know the conditions in which their "meat" lived and died
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

I'm beginning to think people can't see my comments, which kinda hurts my feelings.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

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The reason is that I feel that animal protein and fats are a huge benefit to human health

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

Ok - can everyone see what Lee is writing?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

Thanks Katie.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

OK - we have confirmation. Carry on
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

Also - if you need a low carb diet - as a former PT, I can say that there are TONS of non-meat alternatives that offer protein
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

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It is a little difficult for me. I am diabetic and I have to limit carbs.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

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The amount of protein we've been taught we need is lunacy. The factory farm/Monsanto coalition designed the food pyramid.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

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I think that it is fine for people to eat meat on occasion, but in general people are eating too much on a daily basis. We tend to include it in every meal

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

What about we don't eat meat but we LOVE testing mascara on monkeys?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

Indeed.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

Thanks Mike. Let's cuddle sometime.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

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@E -- totally. I see you, Lee. Consider this a bandaid for your feelings.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

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We don't need meat and if you are freaked out about not getting your special protein then have some eggs.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

@Brandi - I don't think it's humiliating them, it's educating them
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

Brandi - I take the other tact. I like to make sure I'm eating an asshole animal who was really a dick.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

(kidding)
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

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yeah, ethical eggs are a lot easier to get b/c of decent labeling.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

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meat-eaters.. Ur so called PLEASURE is anothers PAIN.. is this justifiable?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

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Don't worry Lee, we still love you, man!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

I would want to know if I was eating shit, literally - and a lot of people do who just eat "regular" meat from our mass produced farms.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

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i am 44 this year. i am vegan for over 20 yrs. i gave a very hard job and run rings around the younger ppl there. the protein issue is a myth!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

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Most people are shocked to discover that there is protein in -- gasp! -- plants. Saying you need nutrients from meat isn't a good enough reason to eat it. Say you like it and be honest.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

I don't eat plants either though. I live on happy thoughts.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

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I'd like to know that if someone chooses to eat an animal product, that the animal had a fair and happy life. Enjoyed the sun, rain, grass, playing. I'd never humiliate a person for having different food tastes. That isn't kind.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

@That Guy - do plants have the cognitive ability to feel pain and recognize emotion
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

damn Lee, I was gonna ask what your diet secret was
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

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@Maria Maybe, but is eating meat and caring about animals really mutually exclusive?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

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testing on primates should banned,

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

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Meat consumption is about more than animal rights - impact on environment and and waste of grain that feeds animals that could feed many more people etc

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

Mike - What if they're doing it to get a date?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

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You are killing living things when you eat plants

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:12 PM

@Steven - I find that field really interesting bc with the ability to use stem cells and cells that aren't attached to a "host" so to speak
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

we don't need to torture animals in labs
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

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life feeds on the death of otehr life whether plant or animal

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

That Guy - You raise an interesting point. Certainly we eat plants because we feel that have differnt (lower) cognitive abilities and pain feelings. But that means perhaps there is a line we should draw somewhere - are insects okay? mollusks?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

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Lee, I thought you lived on anger.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

Where is that line?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

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Okay since no one else is going to say it I will! But Lee have you ever seen a monkey with blue mascara on??? Grrrrr!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

Testing cosmetics on animals is ridiculous.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

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I was a cancer researcher and I refused to kill mice. The entire field is based on giving animals cancer.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

I read about a guy who ate chicken because he worked with them and said they were idiots. But he won't eat Octopus because he says they're brilliant.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

I'd say that line is in the ability to feel pain and recognize emotions.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

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steven i once had a temp job entering grant proposals for cancer research into a database, and realized that virtually every one of them involved doing something messed up to mice

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

Sean - As with any topic, I don't think you can just throw it away to "people are different". It's okay to try to convince people of a certain way of thinking.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

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We need to cure cancer, not give it to animals.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

Cave - Does that mean no insects? I dont' actually know.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

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Proplem is that people in this country are so disconnected from nature becuse we have technology and industry that provides their food for them. They have no clue where it comes from or who it came from.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

I don't eat meat, for example, bc I don't need to. I don't need to have a cow shaking with fear on its way to the slaughterhouse. I can have a veggie burrito and be happy as hell
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

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To think that I ate the factory meat while growing up in America freaks me out even today!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

★ Spotlighted from Cave Raven

How about the line is drawn where the entity has a nervous system? Ie can sense/feel pain?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

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In the end it all comes down to this. "life eats life" Every one's beliefs on where they stand on the ethics of consuming meat will always be different as they incur different life experiences that mold their perspectives.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

eleanor - you mean recognize emotions in others?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

Sean - Is that true? Or is it simply that they avoid death?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

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Most people in America today have never had to kill or harvest their own food. I believe most people would change their ideas if they did.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

That Guy - I don't think discussing this is telling you have to do something. You're a free human being.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

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No insects! They have nervous systems...

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

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It's been proven now that plants can feel pain.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

Putting information out there and talking about it is at its most intense "suggestion."
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

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i feel the line is the most gentle way we can live with doing the least amount of harm, to other life and the planet.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

Courtney - It's a discussion. There's no Q&A.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

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Eleanor and Lee I have no problems with your wanting to be vegan or vegitarian but I have a problem with people telling me what I can or can't eat or put into my body

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

Speak when you'd like.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

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I don't eat meat myself, but I think that has less to do with killing other animals for food than the issue of factory farming. I don't think an animal has to be tortured and filled with chemicals in order to be on my sandwich.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

Cave - They in fact DO move away from it but VERY SLOWLY.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

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OMG this chat room is even more infuriating than this subject, who goes first ? is this a debate or a Q& A ? and yes I AM A MEAT EATER ( the actual meat that i can find not that pink slime they try to pawn off ) next question

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

Venus Flytrap has the evolutionary jump on that one
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

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If the packaging of meat products accurately reflected the sick shit that goes on in the corporate food chain, we'd be ready to revolt.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

I'm not kidding. When a tree in a forest is dying from a disease, the others sense it and try to move away or grow thicker bark to defend themselves.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

That Guy - I am far more against factory farming than you killing and eating an animal.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

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Yeah, it turns out informing people and letting them make their own decisions isn't telling them what to do.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

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What would be the evolutionary function of a plant being able to feel pain Sean, since they can't move away from it?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

Factory farming is horrific. I dare someone to go witness it and not say it's an insane level of abuse.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

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Am I abusing an animal by hunting it in teh wild or are corporate farmers abusing them by raising them in pens?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

@Jess - that is a great documentary
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

I stopped eating meat entirely when I lived in Chicago b/c I couldn't tell where anything was sourced from. I felt SO MUCH BETTER -- not just b/c of what I wasn't eating, but what I was eating instead. That's enough for me to eat almost no meat.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

Jess - I haven't seen it. But I get the idea.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

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they still have receptors that respond to for instance a gash in their stem, which allows them to repair it. I don't view it in a sense as pain like ow i scraped my knee, but more in a scientific matter. Not in a conscious way.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

There are others out there too but that one does a great job of showing how corporations in particular keep farmers from raising animals in a humane way
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

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@That Guy -- this is mostly about factory farming. I don't think anyone here would shame the people in my hometown who hunt during deer season to feed their families over the winter.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

Not to mention factory farming is causing more global warming emissions than our cars are! (Because we have millions of pigs and cows and fill them with corn, which they aren't designed to digest correctly)
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

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I have the solution to every problem. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO CARE TAKE AWAY THEIR WIFI access & throw a # tag and a @ symbol at who they should be revolting agaisnt and for what & within 24 hours socio-economic balance would be restored.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

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Lee: Did you see Food Inc? I had to watch that in a class. It was... unpleasant.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

Yep - then shoot em full of antibiotics which then you get to eat. yay!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

True. We give crazy subsidies to factory farming.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

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7 billion of us can't all go out with rifles and hunt our own food!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

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Corporate farming is the main problem.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

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Yes. Particularly McDonalds. It goes into some length about that.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

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katie without hsaming anyone, how many people really hunt deer to feed their families? i know people eat it, that's not what i mean

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

Comet - Why did they kill em?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

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If you made a comment about it earlier, Ben, I didn't see it. I was responding to someone else. And I have friends I grew up with who do still have to do that to eat.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

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It is not something that will happen overnight. They can only feed garbage to people who buy garbage. Stop buying it.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

The beef industry would not be as large today without the US Govt corn subsidies

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Kellie Marie

Exactly Lee, overall I see veganism as a liberation movement, not just for animals, but for humanity and the earth in general!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

@Katie - very true. That's another thing they go into in Food Inc. How fast food and GMO, non-organic food is way cheaper and more accessible than healthy food
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

This isn't even about the poor and marginalized who eat what they can get a hold of. This is about the way wealthy and middle class people eat and about the subsidies Lee mentioned.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:24 PM

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the largest land based animal massacre is here in oz. kangaroos. it is also the image mascot. doesn't that seem absurd?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:24 PM

I've been totally fine without meat for ten years
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

If McDonald's wasn't a fucking dollar, people would eat something else -- and be healthier for it. As would our planet.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:24 PM

You do have to find your protein elsewhere though.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

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I prefer to call them corporate farms.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

@Jess - exactly. The idea that we need meat with every meal is fucking insane
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

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we should boycott the meat industry for sure, but i dont think we should stop eating meat, it is known that animal protein made our brains get to where they are now, we owe out intelligence to animal nutrition

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

Jess - That's true. Evolutionarily speaking, getting meat was kinda rare because it was hard to catch. Plants were our more common food.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

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Oh, corn subsidies. Monsanto is in your cows and pigs and chickens. Those fools really know how to get into every crevice of the food supply.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Risch

pyotr do you really think we have to keep eating meat to keep it?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

is used for dog meat, small amount for human consumption , and they cull them because they eat grass which farmer intend for their livestock. And some sport.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

That Guy - Did you really have to turn this into a male/female thing? Pussified doesn't mean anything.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

@Katie - I did always find it creepy that human beings are the only animals that continue to drink milk after we're done breast feeding
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

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From what I've read, while it is natural to eat meat, more people eat a hell of a lot more than their supposed to, and fish is still better for you than regular meat.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

Except I have found that it sometimes can tell you when people have been listening to Ted Nugent.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

You don't see a tiger walking up to a panda asking to score some milk
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

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Humans have just become so "pussified" that they have lost touch of what keeps our ecosystem balanced

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

We also eat a TON of stuff that isn't natural. Anyone bring up dairy yet? Milk made sense in the 17-1800's when there was NOTHING all winter, but there's a reason we don't process it well. We shouldn't be eating it.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

Maria - I meant currently. If we're talking about creating laws forbidding eating of certain animals, then sure, certain animals can be on that list, like monkeys. But I would not support such a law on cows.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

I would support a ban on factory farms and certain treatment of cows.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Risch

i switched from eating cereal with milk to almond milk and it wasnt too hard

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

and pigs and every animal.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

Which gets back to the point of the tawk
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

Lee.. U say *that guy * is a free human being.. but we live in a society were it's not ok to be free to do as U please, or U get locked up for it, as the LAW PROTECTS.. certain beings, even dogs and cats, ought we be FREE to do as we please?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from Kellie Marie

@Eleanor, isn't it sad. It is because it has not only been rammed down our throats from the minute we could chew but I think it is even glorified now as being a 'successor' to sit down to you meat feasts!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

Cave - We can grow. "Faggot" used to be a commonly used term.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

Animals should have set rights that allow them to live happy, natural lives, regardless of who eats them or doesn't
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

I don't have a problem with saying pussy in some context, but "pussification" strikes me as ignorant. Just a feeling I have.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Cave Raven

Lee, George Carlin talked about pussification of US, you dissin' him? :P

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

That Guy - Explain to me what "pussification" of America means.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

Veal is the worst.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

Also, saying "I thought you were better than that" is a sad debate tactic. ...In fact, I thought you were better than that.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

We're straying a bit, guys
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sarah Hoyle

Earthlings is free to watch online and is a great documentary on the way we generally use animals for food, clothing and entertainment. I definitely recommend it for anyone who is curious about all this!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

@Jess - that is a good question. I'm not sure if there are other orgs that produce stats on the fur and leather trade
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

Anyone have insight on that?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

Maria - That's not what I said. I said I would not support a law banning the eating of cows.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

But keeping them in a pin where they can't move their entire lives serves no purpose in terms of survival.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

I've dabbled in veganism for a little over a year. The longest strand being 2 months straight. It is definitely a harder lifestyle in a world that feels offended for making them think about what they eat.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

What about fur and leather? I gotta admit that even when I used to eat meat, I thought fur coats were a little creepy and morbid. The problem is that most of the information I've heard about fur is from PETA, and I'm not sure how reliable they are.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Courtney Driver

am I the only one not seeing any responses to questions ? is there going to be a print out or download of all these points ?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Steven Geary

The good thing is, I'd say in the last five years people have begun to notice the food system is out of control. All we can do is make personal changes and lead by example. The marketplace is changing.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

I believe greenpeace does...
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

Ok.. am confused now, U wouldn't support a law to protect cows, but U would support certain treatment for cows? :o/

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

I never said you weren't accepted. I notice every time I try to debate you on something you act like you've been legally banned from the room or something.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

@Katie - ha! Good point. I think we should regulate one and not the other. I think you can take care of the former :)
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

OK, so if you eat meat, say "pussification" you are no longer accepted by thsi crowd.....

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

@Kelly - no, we haven't. Can you shed some light on that?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

Katie - Wait, so if tomorrow we did allow you to have sovereignty over your own body then we could no longer regulate animals?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

Has everyone seen the protests against air france shipping monkeys for research?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

Listen, if we're going to regulate what I'm allowed to do with my body in the privacy of my doctor's office, then regulating what planet killing, diabetes causing, tax payer funded factory farms are doing is hardly a stretch.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

Did the dolphin having human right's in India get mentioned yet?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

@Kelly - do you have a link for this story? That'd be really interesting to read more about
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

Maria - I don't understand that sentence because it was written in teenage cell phone speak, I think.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

@lee .. why would U not support a law to ban them from being eaten..? that's not pro animal rights..

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

If you murder a dolphin in India, you can be charged with murder.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM

The same guy who is suing owners on behalf of their mistreated animals is also doing so for dolphins, not just primates. Really interesting article in the NY Times Magazine. Take a look after the tawk
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

lee.. U think is ok for animals to be bred to be exploited and used for ££££ ? to be born to die? U think humans got that right?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/magazine/the-rights-of-man-and-beast.html?_r=0
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

Kelly, is India big on animal rights? Or is that just with dolphins?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

They arm all their animals.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

The true revolution is one of empathy, compassion and gentle kind caring of all life i believe!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

Every American should have a required field trip to India to be able to see these beautiful creatures (cows) just hanging out and walking down the middle of the streets.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

Doesn't India have stand your ground laws pertaining to animals?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:37 PM

Courtney - Economist Richard Wolff had some interesting thoughts on "b-certified corps" - basically that it's just dealing with a symptom of the problem. It's basically saying
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

I feel like nutrition talks are always just a large debate.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

@Chris - good point. Besides the food debate, we use animals for our own amusement in some really sick ways
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

"Capitalism is going to eat everything it sees so let's see if corps will promise to not eat us to death."
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

Anyway, it seems like a bit of a band-aid.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

Like, circus animals for example.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Courtney Driver

and sorry to say but there is no more nobility in being poor anymore there's so many options to strive and thrive that its' not even funny. So if I can relay any message to anyone here please check out becoming a B-certified companies especially

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Chris t'Nijenhuis

not sure on that law, Mike Dwornik. but i'm sure the Bull's in Spain don't know the meaning of stand your ground ;)

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

Or like the big story behind how sea world treats their animals - as in, fucking horribly
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

@Katie - gotta indoctrinate the young
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

@Jess - me too! I fucking hate clowns
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

But also, yes
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:39 PM

★ Spotlighted from Steven Geary

There is a massive global war on natural living. I don't exactly have the answer but I figure I'll start by trying to limit the poisonous food I purchase.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

That stands for "ALF Liberation Front" right? It's high time they let that guy go!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

They keep them in cages often too small to turn around in and bring them out to perform or rehearse, where they're often times beaten into doing tricks or submitting
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

Ugh, @E, the circus was just here. So awful. Even more awful with the number of kids taken for "fun" who are being brought up to think that's totally fine.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

I've literally never been to a circus (I'm afraid of clowns). Do they still keep animals in tiny cages and all that?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Risch

Blackfish was a great documentary

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

Our beliefs are highly contingent on where and how we grew up. If you grew up in an environment with little food, you wouldn't think in terms of morality, but in terms of survival as Lee said earlier.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

Have you seen the footage of the animals banging their heads on the walls?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

That's true - I supported ALF's right to eat cats.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

i am part of ALF it all began for me when i was 4 years old at bull fight in spain. i screamed my head off and had to be dragged from the place kicking and screaming. point, a 4yr old knows right from wrong.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

Bull fighting, most people are rooting for the bull.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

@Jess - glad to hear people are protesting when the circus comes around!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

yes Lee

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

Alf had a thing for cats.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

But I read the elephants were only at the funeral for the finger foods, so it was kinda disingenuous of them.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

That explains why there's always a protest whenever the circus comes to town. Good to know. I'm glad I've never been to one.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

I once put a list together of all the reasons why you should go vegan, and after reading it, it doesn't really make sense not to, unless you want to eat it for selfish reasons.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM

hahaha - that's why I go to funerals
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

@comet.. I turned veg at 8years when saw a cow hung up by her legs and throat slit, accidently on TV.. thank god.. I did.. and yes, I knew right from wrong, I was DISTRAUGHT... am assuming most kids would be if they knew the truth, which most do not

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

DId you hear about the elephant activist that lived in Africa, when he dies many elephants came to his place to mourn him.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

And the last I heard, Sea World was suffering huge losses after that movie and story came out.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

Yeah, I'm from New Paltz. It's a very politically active town. We don't put up with no shit. Hehe

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Courtney Driver

Umm sean being a VEGATARIAN does NOT automatically make you less selfish than meat eaters anymore than being an Atheist automatically makes you more intelligent

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

Sean - Yes, I think people should have to be familiar with the animals they're killing. That would help.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM

@Cave - the two subjects are tied but specifically we're discussing animal rights as its own entity for this tawk
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

if you eat plant or animal you are eating life.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

I once told a plant that it looked a little like Gary Busey, and it took offense. He turned to face the other direction and pout. Definitely felt pain.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Cave Raven

Is it meaningful to discuss animal rights separately from the global economic system that is based on exploitation greed and fallacious assumptions about human nature - eg we're all "rational and self-interested beings"?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

What if people had to watch the animal they were about to eat get killed on a screen? Do you think it would change their perceptions?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

Maria - Truth makes things taste gross!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

@Maria - I think we should show children. I learned how to fish when I was younger, went to farms and saw how they treated them. You shouldn't hide things from people just b/c they're uncomfortable
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

why not allow children to see the truth as to where their food comes from and let them make their mind up? why hide it.. because is so revoltingly violent is why.. is not *Food*

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

I know it sounds hardcore, but if you must eat an animal, you should kill it and prepare it yourself.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from Courtney Driver

and Mark dice and all these ppl who keep everybody in a perpetual state of terror and hatred for their fellow man or woman without even trying to understnad the reasons why or how these ppl do what they do . I for one like the notion that ppl do'nt

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

Here's my Moment of Clarity video on happy cows jumping - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asPScFzy2Ik
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

great video
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

Watch it after the tawk. It will make you happy.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

That's it, now I have to google plants to find the Gary Busey look-a-like....

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

@Sean - very true.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:49 PM

Maria - I think it should be rare and factory farms should be outlawed, but I'm sure that some people still survive on meat at some places in this world. That's why.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

The problem of deforestation, water contamination/reduction, global warming, healthcare costs, etc... will all increase with increased animal consumption.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

Lee, am confused about U.. :o) veg or vegan or neither.. am confused as to why U don't think we ought to have a law to stop killing animals for food?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

Let's only eat meat that was previously Glenn Beck fans.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

@Sean - I think it goes back to the question of whether that animal can consciously feel pain, emotion
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

ok 86% of the world eats goat, BUT because western culture shoves beef in your face 3 times a day, the #1 consumed meat is beef. That means that the goat eating majority only eats goat 2 times a week.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

The odd thing is that when I was young, there was a small slaughterhouse and meat market nearby. Sometimes we used to watch them and I don't think it really bothered any of us.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

How do we decide on which animals to eat? The majority of the time it is herbivores that we consume, though we do sometimes eat carnivorous animals.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

Steven - True. How about we make McDonald's cost what it REALLY should (like $50 or $60) and then THAT can be the status symbol??
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

@Sean - would you have ordered the pork?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from Steven Geary

Whatever happens, those concerned enough to talk about this could certainly come up with a strategy. Diamonds don't need their artificial value any more than a $50 steak has to be the symbol of success.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

I think the switch happens when making those justifications doesn't hold
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

I also think animals should be given the vote because god knows they can't do worse than we have.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

Mike - You really failed us on that one.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from Sean C

I watched a video on pigs being killed earlier, and it was painful to watch... but then i ordered curry pad thai with chicken. I think it is all about what justifications you make.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

That Guy - Yes, Vagitarian is PRO women! :)
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

I was trying to find a way to work vaginatarian into the conversation. Sorry

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

That Guy is currently learning how to speak comedy. He's coming along nicely.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

Not only should they get to vote, but they should be able to run for office.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

Vaginatarian = OK Pussification = Not OK

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

They might even be trainable...

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

i saw a comment recently about how disgusting human milk is, being sold i think. but goat and cows is ok??

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

Maria - Yes, I agree. As long as it's not necessary, it shouldn't be done. We could also have a Resourced Based Economy one day when we live off what the earth can handle, which would also be the polar opposite of slaughtering millions of animals
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:56 PM

@courtney - we currently do not have any songs about animal cruelty. There are bands out there that do - can't think of their names of course, but have seen them
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Steven Geary

The USA, a nation of used car salesman and their customers.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

for disgusting Happy Meals.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

@lee.. thanks for clearing that..it sounded as if U .. sure.. but we have the capacity to create laws to protect animals in our culture.. where it's unnecessary for survival..

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

@Jess - I think it's important to consider what an animal needs
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

I wouldn't try to turn a blood hound into a vegetarian
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from Courtney Driver

Question: Eleanor you are a singer ? do you sing any songs about animal cruelty ? if not maybe this is another solution that could happen heck if you want we could all chip in a verse and make it go viral

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

but I don't need to eat a raw steak
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

What about carnivorous pets? For instance, if I had a cat, I would have to feed it meat. Can you get pet food that comes from more compassionate farming methods? Or can you tell?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

Mystery meat still counts as vegetarian because no animal group can be upset.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

They wouldn't know.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

@Jess - that's a good question. I don't know actually - been a long time since I had a pet.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

And what about all the mystery meat being consumed...I a think I am going to be sick!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

Courtney - You mean do petitions help? Or mean do they make me angry?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

However, I do know there are companies that do the same with their food as with human food, labeling non-GMO and that sort of thing
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Maria Hibana Gracilis

@courtney, OPUS ONE, MADISON PARK is a goody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzEj9LG6y4g

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Risch

i believe that torturing animals as part of medical research is wrong and wrong thinking

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

I can't handle fast food anymore. The drive up window is one of the major things wrong with America.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

@Jess - hahaha, thanks for clarifying
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

That's not what I meant. I meant that it's hard to tell where the pet food comes from. Is there a way to find out if the pet food is from a farm that doesn't abuse animals?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

We're wrapping this up but feel free to keep Tawking as long as you want!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

We need to start growing our own food.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Courtney Driver

Question: Lee do you or have you found signed pettions to help you in your efforts thus far or have they only contributed to fuel more anger towards your comedy ?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

Oh wow, that hour flew by!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Tell everyone to join us on Tuesdays at 7pm EST!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

Come back next week - and let us know what other topics you'd be interested in discussing
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

And follow me at Facebook.com/LeeCampComedian - I post there all day long.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

And I'm at facebook.com/rooftoprevolutionaries
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

I think, its all about spreading awareness.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

i read up to 1000 dna samples in one burger. sick!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jess Perry

I guess good ol' fashioned research is the solution to that one. (I want a kitten) (not for dinner)