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Do You Believe in Ghosts?

Oct 31, 2013

Blake Ian
Stage· 337 messages
Oct 31, 2013

A special Hollowed Tawk!

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tom Lorenzo

Boo! But, like, in a scary way, not in a "this sucks" kinda way...

KJ

Kenna James · 7:00 PM

Hey All!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:00 PM

Hey allllll
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:00 PM

★ Spotlighted from trey penna

hey

KJ

Kenna James · 7:00 PM

Hey Trey!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:00 PM

So weird, I am usually on the left side... I gotta adjust
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:00 PM

OK
KJ

Kenna James · 7:01 PM

Adjusting and adapting to those things that are unusual occurrences is important!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:01 PM

Like not expecting to see a ghost and seeing one!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:01 PM

There he goes, right into the poker / life lessons!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:01 PM

All kidding included - Do you believe in Ghosts Mr. Ian?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:02 PM

I decided to kick this off by not Tawking about what we're going to be tawking about for a change and just jump right in!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:02 PM

well yeah but then you said that... and sort of did the same thing
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:02 PM

hahahah
KJ

Kenna James · 7:03 PM

Well, I'm in purgatory here waiting for your answer
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:03 PM

so instead of calling out what we are tawking about, you called out that you didn't call it out
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:03 PM

I believe in energy, and the past leaving traces
KJ

Kenna James · 7:03 PM

ah...the multi-level guy on my hands here
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:03 PM

I am the proverbial onion
KJ

Kenna James · 7:03 PM

avoiding the question works with most people, not with me....stop diverting
KJ

Kenna James · 7:03 PM

Do you believe in Ghosts Mr Ian?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:03 PM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:04 PM

Always going for the throat KJ
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:04 PM

Love it
KJ

Kenna James · 7:04 PM

It's not a court of law I suppose, but yes
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:04 PM

I believe in all things
KJ

Kenna James · 7:04 PM

Wow!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:04 PM

I believe anything we can imagine can come to be
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:04 PM

so sure
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:04 PM

since many people certainly imagine Ghosts... I believe their existence is POSSIBLE
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:05 PM

but I wouldn't say I believe their existence is currently happening
KJ

Kenna James · 7:05 PM

So you believe then that it's right to laugh at people who believe in ghosts, correct?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:05 PM

Ah -
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:05 PM

hahah how do you get that?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:05 PM

interesting
KJ

Kenna James · 7:05 PM

Because you believe in ALL things
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:05 PM

So why would I think its ok to laugh at people who believe in ghosts?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:06 PM

I didn't say "Think" I said Believe
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from trey penna

sometimes the brain works in mysterious ways...you know

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:06 PM

What up Trey!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:06 PM

anyway - that's off topic
KJ

Kenna James · 7:06 PM

forget that goofy statement
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:06 PM

Forgotten.
KJ

Kenna James · 7:07 PM

back to Ghosts and not believing they currently exist....Many would disagree with you
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:07 PM

Wait!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:07 PM

you keep saying things that make it seem like I said I don't believe they exist
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:08 PM

I sad I believe in all things possible
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:08 PM

I don't know if they exist
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:08 PM

but I don't know they dont
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:08 PM

thats my political answer!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:08 PM

wow
KJ

Kenna James · 7:09 PM

Let's believe for a moment you had a choice to take a position on this topic....
KJ

Kenna James · 7:09 PM

have
KJ

Kenna James · 7:09 PM

what would it be?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:09 PM

it would be not to
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:09 PM

:P
KJ

Kenna James · 7:09 PM

You would agree however....
KJ

Kenna James · 7:10 PM

that there are somethings that exist that we are unaware, correct?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:10 PM

Lets go to a word we use in EVERY poker tawk... "Define". Let's define ghost so I can answer correctly
KJ

Kenna James · 7:10 PM

GHOST: an apparition of a dead person that is believed to appear or become manifest to the living, typically as a nebulous image:
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:10 PM

How did I know you would have a definition handy
KJ

Kenna James · 7:11 PM

LOL - I got em on his heels folks...
KJ

Kenna James · 7:11 PM

Because you know me
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:12 PM

I honestly cannot confirm or deny their existence. I think thats a fair answer
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:12 PM

I would not mock someone who believes in them
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:12 PM

I would not mock someone who doesnt
KJ

Kenna James · 7:12 PM

It's an ambiguous answer
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:12 PM

Im an ambiguous guy
KJ

Kenna James · 7:12 PM

but we'll start there
KJ

Kenna James · 7:12 PM

So....you would agree that there are things that exist that you are unaware, correct?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:12 PM

absolutely
KJ

Kenna James · 7:12 PM

Great!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:13 PM

One of them just happens to be ghosts!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:13 PM

hahah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:13 PM

ok so by that statement you are saying
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:13 PM

you DO in fact believe in ghosts correct?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:13 PM

Of course!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:13 PM

Why of course?? Thats the first thing that you have said to hint towards that
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:13 PM

how would I know?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:14 PM

Not only do I believe in them....they scare the shit out of me!!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:14 PM

LOL
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:14 PM

I believe there is nothing to be scared of
KJ

Kenna James · 7:14 PM

You drew the correct conclusion...that's how. And you're smart
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:14 PM

Im not saying nothing scares me, Im saying anything that scares me is actually not something that should
KJ

Kenna James · 7:14 PM

Really?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:14 PM

Yes
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:15 PM

furreals as the kids say
KJ

Kenna James · 7:15 PM

Well, getting in a fight with a ghost would scare you, I promise you that
KJ

Kenna James · 7:15 PM

little suckers are hard to grab hold of
KJ

Kenna James · 7:16 PM

The mean ones are nasty! nasty!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:16 PM

What happened to you to inspire this discussion ?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:16 PM

Halloween
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:16 PM

did you fight a ghost recently?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:16 PM

Have you ever seen a ghost?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:17 PM

honestly
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:17 PM

sorry that was a typo... I meant to say "have you ever seen Ghost"... with Patrick Swayze
KJ

Kenna James · 7:17 PM

How can one see something that isn't there?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:17 PM

goof
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:17 PM

Wait a sec
KJ

Kenna James · 7:17 PM

it's a trick question
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:17 PM

you just said you believe they are there
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:18 PM

so what do you mean it isn't there?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:18 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot...Trick or Treat - i get you
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:18 PM

you believe ghosts are there
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:18 PM

so have you seen one
KJ

Kenna James · 7:18 PM

Spirit means non physical right?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:18 PM

You are looking for a physical object you won't be able to
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:18 PM

No, your definition
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:18 PM

"appear"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:18 PM

apparition are visible
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:19 PM

by your definition its visible
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:19 PM

so again
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:19 PM

HAVE you seen a ghost
KJ

Kenna James · 7:19 PM

Sometimes there are apparitions - like orbs - that an energy takes - yes I've seen those
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:19 PM

So you HAVE seen a ghost then
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:19 PM

so just for the record your first answer made no sense
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:19 PM

haha
KJ

Kenna James · 7:19 PM

In the loose term your using, yes
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:19 PM

Its not loose, Im using your definition... a dead person that appears in a form
KJ

Kenna James · 7:20 PM

Feel would be an even better word then "see" but I've experienced both
KJ

Kenna James · 7:20 PM

Next he's going to ask me what color hair they had!! Geez
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:20 PM

appears means able to be seen
KJ

Kenna James · 7:20 PM

Not necessairily
KJ

Kenna James · 7:20 PM

Appear doesn't have to be physical
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:21 PM

Definition of Appear: come into sight; become visible or noticeable
KJ

Kenna James · 7:21 PM

Like when someone cognates over something and it "appears" they understand
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:21 PM

COME INTO SIGHT
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:21 PM

now Ive got you dodging
KJ

Kenna James · 7:22 PM

From our point of view we see the physical manifestation in the light bulb going on in the persons face
KJ

Kenna James · 7:22 PM

But for them - it is thought - which is spiritual
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:22 PM

semantics semantics
KJ

Kenna James · 7:22 PM

at the level of thought
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:22 PM

have you experienced a ghost
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:22 PM

there ya happy?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:22 PM

I already told you yes
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:22 PM

ok
KJ

Kenna James · 7:22 PM

lol
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:22 PM

when was the last time this happened
KJ

Kenna James · 7:22 PM

Why are there no comments in the forum?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:23 PM

Are we scarring people?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:23 PM

because we just decided to do this Tawk and didn't really promote it at all
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:23 PM

also there is a really cool senator over in another room doing a Tawk,hahah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:23 PM

but don't worry it stays up forever and people can always pop in and read it
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from trey penna

im here

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:23 PM

and we have Trey!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:23 PM

Great!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:24 PM

Also because a poker player and musician tawking about ghosts isn't exactly a chance for people to LEARN hahah though they are missing out on ou arguments which I find extremely entertaining
KJ

Kenna James · 7:24 PM

I believe there are some people who die and refuse to "move on"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:24 PM

Hey Trey... have you ever seen a ghost?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Eric Goldsmith

there is no correct answer

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:25 PM

Thank you eric! thats what Im trying to say! haha
KJ

Kenna James · 7:25 PM

sometimes it's not about learning...it's about having fun and tawking about shit
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:25 PM

Totes KJ, totes
KJ

Kenna James · 7:26 PM

Oh boy - Eric, you must've not did well in school then, huh?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:26 PM

"must've not did well in school then, huh"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:26 PM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:26 PM

the irony of that statement to someone else
KJ

Kenna James · 7:26 PM

Eric got a 10 on his test and when asked why, he said "there's no correct answer!" lol
KJ

Kenna James · 7:26 PM

kidding Eric
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:27 PM

Well Eric prob did well in Philosophy class with that answer though
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:27 PM

right KJ?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:27 PM

Ghosts are merely the spirit of a person who got overly attached to shit here on this plane
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:27 PM

We see ya Trey ;)
KJ

Kenna James · 7:27 PM

and they don't want to leave
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:27 PM

How do you know?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:27 PM

Good question.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:28 PM

Dan Aykroyd told ya?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:28 PM

First of all, the word "Belief" is not about knowing
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:28 PM

hmmm
KJ

Kenna James · 7:28 PM

need another definition?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:28 PM

I might be able to wage a 2 hour argument on that statement
KJ

Kenna James · 7:28 PM

BELIEF: An acceptance of a statement or that something exists
KJ

Kenna James · 7:28 PM

lol
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:28 PM

Does knowing exist besides belief?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:28 PM

isn't belief about as close we can get to knowing
KJ

Kenna James · 7:29 PM

Sounds like we have another important topic to Tawk about for next time!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:29 PM

Yes, is the quick answer
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:29 PM

So then why do you believe that?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:29 PM

True knowing comes from Experience
KJ

Kenna James · 7:30 PM

His mind is racing now!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:30 PM

lol
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:31 PM

Doesn't true believing come from experience?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:31 PM

no
KJ

Kenna James · 7:31 PM

it comes from your opinion about an experience
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Eric Goldsmith

@blake, i was speaking to you

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:31 PM

Eric you are agreeing with me whether you like it or not
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:31 PM

My stance is I cannot deny or confirm the existence of ghosts
KJ

Kenna James · 7:31 PM

I wasn't asking that question...though
KJ

Kenna James · 7:32 PM

I was asking your opinion or belief, not whether or not you experienced them.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:32 PM

Kenna
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:32 PM

Do you believe in love after love?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:33 PM

ORB • literary a celestial body. A Spherical body.
KJ

Kenna James · 7:33 PM

Of course.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:33 PM

I can feel something inside me say... I really don't think you're strong enough
KJ

Kenna James · 7:33 PM

Love is nothing more then affinity for something. People "fall" in and out of Love all the time
KJ

Kenna James · 7:33 PM

Another great topic!!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:34 PM

What am I supposed to do, sit around and wait for you?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:34 PM

I'm probably not
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:34 PM

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/cher/believe.html
KJ

Kenna James · 7:35 PM

Is it Life or Love after Love? the real question
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:35 PM

I wasn't sure, I googled it
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:35 PM

haha
KJ

Kenna James · 7:35 PM

Some people lose what they love and die
KJ

Kenna James · 7:35 PM

Yes, I read the lyric real quick
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:35 PM

We are so off topic, which is a common trait of every discussion we have ever had
KJ

Kenna James · 7:35 PM

Some people move on and find love again
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:35 PM

which way do we wanna go
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:35 PM

Ghosts or beliefs?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:36 PM

The people who die and stay behind...we call them Ghosts!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:36 PM

OK
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:36 PM

so then your definition for the purposes of this convo is that
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:36 PM

lets start there
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:36 PM

do I believe some people linger after they die
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:36 PM

thats really what you wanna know
KJ

Kenna James · 7:36 PM

to have people weigh in on their belief about ghosts!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Eric Goldsmith

i do not believe in ghosts

KJ

Kenna James · 7:37 PM

THANK YOU ERIC!!!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:37 PM

Finally, someone who has an opinion here!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:37 PM

What is the value of an opinion?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:38 PM

Ah...another great topic!!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:38 PM

value is based on rarity, making opinions the least valuable commodity on the planet!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:38 PM

I'm going to refer to this thread the next time we want to schedule a Tawk my friend!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:38 PM

df
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:38 PM

also you should prob have one with Eric
KJ

Kenna James · 7:38 PM

Ah, that's where you got it wrong my friend. Value is based on Opinion!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:39 PM

Eric is a financial planner and advisor, among other things... you guys should discuss managing your poker roll
KJ

Kenna James · 7:39 PM

The true value of something has to do with someones opinion of it.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:39 PM

★ Spotlighted from Eric Goldsmith

Value is based on opinion

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:39 PM

You guys are really in sync here
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:39 PM

Not the band with Timberlake
KJ

Kenna James · 7:39 PM

Eric is paid by me to be here of course you know that
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:39 PM

the literally meaning
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:39 PM

★ Spotlighted from trey penna

i think i am ghost no one is acknowledging me

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:39 PM

Trey, maybe you ARE a ghost...
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:40 PM

:o
KJ

Kenna James · 7:40 PM

Gotcha Trey...in many ways you may be right!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:40 PM

That's why everybody is ignoring you
KJ

Kenna James · 7:40 PM

Ghosts have a hard time being heard!!!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:40 PM

lol
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:40 PM

Maybe we are the ghosts here... and what you perceive as ghosts are the real people!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:40 PM

and seen btw
KJ

Kenna James · 7:41 PM

hmmm...could be
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:41 PM

I just don't have enough experience to make me believe or not believe
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:41 PM

believes are not blakc and white
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:41 PM

I don't have to either believe or not
KJ

Kenna James · 7:41 PM

Belief doesn't need experience...it needs OPINION...lol
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:41 PM

you JUST said before that it requires experience
KJ

Kenna James · 7:42 PM

Knowing requires Experience
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:42 PM

or was that knowing.
KJ

Kenna James · 7:42 PM

yes
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:42 PM

yes but then I asked if you felt belief was the closest thing to knowing we have and you said yes
KJ

Kenna James · 7:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Eric Goldsmith

correct KJ

KJ

Kenna James · 7:43 PM

I like being validated! lol
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:43 PM

I said "Danger" and you said "yes", and I said "Grave Danger?"and you said "is there any other kind?"
KJ

Kenna James · 7:43 PM

that may have been a typo...
KJ

Kenna James · 7:43 PM

The closest thing to "Knowing" is "Not Knowing"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:44 PM

That I disagree with entirely
KJ

Kenna James · 7:44 PM

A Few Good Men
KJ

Kenna James · 7:44 PM

Yes, you would
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:44 PM

the word not negates it... meaning it is the furthest thing
KJ

Kenna James · 7:44 PM

You would think so, yes
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:44 PM

I believe
KJ

Kenna James · 7:44 PM

When you are farthest away from something....you're probably closer to the truth
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from trey penna

maybe if i validate one of you i will be published

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:45 PM

Trey... I always see you in the forums of Tawks, why not hit that blue Start a Tawk button and grab a friend!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:45 PM

You just were! Good work Trey.
KJ

Kenna James · 7:45 PM

That which you validate and appreciate you tend to get more of in this Experience btw
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Eric Goldsmith

TO KNOW AND NOT TO DO IS NOT TO KNOW

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:46 PM

we know!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:47 PM

I would say Eric, To Know and Not to "Do" is called being Lazy
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:47 PM

I have done a lot of work with the word "belief" in the past couple of years KJ.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:47 PM

I think we should have a Tawk just on that
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:47 PM

how we build our beliefs
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:47 PM

how they effect our decisions
KJ

Kenna James · 7:48 PM

That's okay, we can get beyond that Blake
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:48 PM

get beyond that? haha I was just saying it would be an interesting convo
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:48 PM

★ Spotlighted from trey penna

you start building beliefs the moment you are born

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:48 PM

Exactly
KJ

Kenna James · 7:49 PM

I agree Trey!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:49 PM

Good point
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:49 PM

I think whats most important to know about beliefs... is that you can change them
KJ

Kenna James · 7:49 PM

Let's tawk about it now...since it's part of the topic..."Belief"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:49 PM

I didn't know that for a long time
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:50 PM

and when I realized I could it was very freeing
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:50 PM

life changing
KJ

Kenna James · 7:50 PM

It's a nice thought, but Most can't - they tawk about change - but can't affect it
KJ

Kenna James · 7:50 PM

Really?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:50 PM

because they don't believe they can... so its a bit of a cycle
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:51 PM

but cycles can be broken
KJ

Kenna James · 7:51 PM

yes
KJ

Kenna James · 7:51 PM

they can
KJ

Kenna James · 7:51 PM

Interestingly though, many can't complete a cycle, so breaking them is not the problem
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:51 PM

ahhh good point
KJ

Kenna James · 7:51 PM

A cycle is a complete action of something
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:52 PM

the cycles we have a hard time changing are the habits
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:52 PM

the cycles we have a hard time completing are work
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:52 PM

and usually new
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:52 PM

in my experience
KJ

Kenna James · 7:52 PM

What's work? I'm a poker player remember.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:52 PM

I don't mean work as in a job necessarily
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:52 PM

just as effort
KJ

Kenna James · 7:53 PM

A habit is there for a purpose...it serves us in some way we may not be aware of
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:53 PM

you work hard at being an excellent poker player
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:53 PM

well not all habits are bad of course, so the good ones are work to create but then become just as easy as a bad habit
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:53 PM

to keep going
KJ

Kenna James · 7:53 PM

Ah, I don't call that work....but yes, you are correct
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:53 PM

effort
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:53 PM

better word
KJ

Kenna James · 7:53 PM

what makes something good or bad?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:54 PM

Eric.....care to answer please....
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:54 PM

Well what I meant when I said good or bad was that a bad habit results in negative effects
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:54 PM

and a good the opposite
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:54 PM

smoking every day causes illness
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:54 PM

bad habit
KJ

Kenna James · 7:54 PM

Oh, this is going to be fun!!!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:54 PM

negative result
KJ

Kenna James · 7:55 PM

What makes something Good or Bad is someones "OPINION' of that thing....
KJ

Kenna James · 7:55 PM

When you say negative, what do you mean?
KJ

Kenna James · 7:56 PM

we may have two different definitions is why I ask....
KJ

Kenna James · 7:56 PM

How about we start another tawk at 4 called - "The root of beliefs?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:57 PM

I was just about to say, anyone who came here because of the title is likely severely disappointed or confused
KJ

Kenna James · 7:57 PM

that's okay
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:57 PM

its bad!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:57 PM

its negativ
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:57 PM

I believe
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:57 PM

I know
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:57 PM

You can't handle the truth!!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:58 PM

What the heck? Where's Blake?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:58 PM

I gotta go walk the dog, he has a bad habit of peeing on the carpet if I wait too long!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:58 PM

Okay, come back at 4:15...I'll start another tawk on Beliefs okay?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:58 PM

Sure.
KJ

Kenna James · 7:58 PM

Those that want to join us can switch over there.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:59 PM

and then lets get you back in next week for some poker Tawks!
KJ

Kenna James · 7:59 PM

Cool...Enjoy the Journey. Cya at 4:15
KJ

Kenna James · 7:59 PM

You got it.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 7:59 PM

so people can actually get something from reading besides the KJ and Blake game of semantics hahahah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 9:37 PM

We took this Tawk over here. http://tawke.rs/16QrskZ "How Beliefs are Created and Create our Reality"