Lee Camp

Fat & Unhappy: What To Eat?

Mar 5, 2014

Eleanor Goldfield
Stage· 322 messages
Mar 5, 2014

Comedian Lee Camp and rocker Eleanor Goldfield discuss the horrors of the modern western fast-food diet and what the answers are. ...And much more.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Hey peeps! What's up?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

Hey everyone!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Welcome, we're talking food today!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

And of course I haven't eaten all day.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

I am not an expert - I'll tell you that up front.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

haha - as a former fat kid, I know a thing or two :)
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

So maybe I'll be the comic relief while Eleanor describes what she puts in her daily health shake.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

;)
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

well, i will say that the US media does little to promote a healthy diet
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

This a great Tawk to host on Fat Tuesday National Pancake Day! Hahaha...

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:01 AM

I literally only stopped eating Ramen noodles 6 months ago.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

that's right! it's also mardi gras
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

oh lee...oh leee...shakes head
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

;)
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

you know right after this you're going to pig out, right Eleanor?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM

i plan on pigging out on some roasted veggies - maybe a huge salad and some fish...
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM

unfortunately many americans think they can't "pig out" on healthy foods. nor do they think they can afford healthy food.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:02 AM

So I did a video today on Factory Farms - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asPScFzy2Ik
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:02 AM

Watch it after our Tawk
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:03 AM

it's grotesque what goes into "ordinary" food these days
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:03 AM

Is there affordable healthy food??
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:03 AM

indeed there is.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

Peeps...is that even a food or just a bunch of chemicals put together to make it look attractive to kids for Easter. They will eat Peeps but not a real chicken.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:03 AM

Hold on! Peeps aren't organic?!!!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:03 AM

actually, there was recently a really interesting article on a woman who tried to eat only organic on minimum wage - apparently worked out. here's the article to read once we're done here
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:04 AM

http://www.motherearthliving.com/food-and-recipes/cooking-methods/eating-organic-budget-zm0z14mazpit.aspx
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

Corn is what goes in "ordinary food." Lots and lots of corn. And corn syrup. With a side of sugar.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:04 AM

ha - and "corn derivatives"
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:04 AM

Something like 3/4 of all grocery store items have corn in them
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:04 AM

sort of like cocaine is a derivative of the coca leaf
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:04 AM

pampers have corn in them
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:05 AM

I did a video on the insane amount of corn in our diet. It's largely because the corn lobby is so powerful.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Connor Bryan

I'm hankering for a Subway, fancy some yoga mat right about now

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:05 AM

eesh - subway is just as bad as mcdonalds
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:06 AM

Yeah, apparently Subway bread had a yoga mat chemical in it until recently
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:06 AM

i can recommend some good homemade subs tho :)
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:06 AM

It's scary what corporations will pump us full of
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

I only eat 'cage-free' peeps.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:06 AM

free-range peeps
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

It's shocking: we subsidize corn heavily, so midwestern farmers ONLY grow corn because otherwise they can't weather droughts/wet summers. So now corn is everywhere.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

iif you do eat this marine life consider this. fish catches are down to 1/3 of what was once caught, in some places 90% to 100% gone. Should the ocean die, all life on this planet will die!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:07 AM

Comet - assuming people will keep eating fish, what is the proper way? Just like free-range meat is better than factory farm meat, there must be different levels -
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:07 AM

as far as fish goes, comet - there are alternatives.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

If you figure that by protecting your health by eating the best you know how you're saving money by NOT being sick or missing work, it's a helluva deal. How can you NOT afford to exercise and eat right?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:08 AM

@rebecca - that's exactly it.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:08 AM

food is your medicine
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

ESPECIALLY when it comes to kids. As a teacher, i can tell you that the doctor visits to medicate them into a stupor after you fry their brain circuits with MSG, HFCS and food dyes are not cheap.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:08 AM

the amount of money that the US spends on disease could be more than halved if we watched what we ate
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

Rebecca -- as someone who had to grocery shop at the Dollar Store in my early 20's, that can be easier said than done.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:09 AM

We spend billions on sickness from the shit we eat.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:09 AM

Not to mention heart disease is the number one killer in america.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:09 AM

true katie - and some places make it easier AND cheaper to buy shit that's bad fo ryou
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:09 AM

for you
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:09 AM

And all the antibiotics we pump the animals full of is the only reason they can survive those conditions. Then they deliver disease to us when we eat it.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

but Lee, that's good for GDP!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

they make it extremely easy to buy and consume shit.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich

Lee nailed it -- if we bothered to put that money into SNAP so people could eat instead of spending exponentially more on medical care.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Dude, Katie, i hear you. I had to walk to the dollar store to shop there. BUT, as i've learned, i've figured out how to eat heathy real food even though i've never done better than poor-ish. I buy food, not stuff.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:10 AM

that's a great way of putting it rebecca. buy food - not stuff
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

In most other countries, food budget it considerably more than it is here - closer to 50% of total budget.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

We were raised to think that milk, cheese and bread is are a staple of a healthy diet.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

Today's children believe that Cinnamon Toast crunch are a healthy part of a nutritious breakfast with Nutella on bread.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:11 AM

Here's a question I've heard opposing views on - Is milk good for you at all? And I don't mean the worst factory farm milk. I mean even healthy free-range milk.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

wanna replace sugar get a stavia plant, Its amazingly sweet.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:11 AM

fuck milk.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

theres a accepted gov level of puss and blood allowed in dairy

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:12 AM

think about it this way: do you see a giraffe walking up to a lion asking to score some milk?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:12 AM

Comet - there's also an acceptable amount of rat feces and hair in most meats.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:12 AM

no. we are the only animal that continues to drink milk after we are done breast feeding.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Connor Bryan

Milk is for babies!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:12 AM

milk actually leads to osteoporosis and breaks DOWN calcium in your body, not the other way around
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

My three year old can walk into a grocery store and pick out all the junk he's seen on commercials...and people still think advertising doesn't influence us and our future! Wake up People!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

milk is white blood cells... pus in essence.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:13 AM

so yeah, get yourself some rice/almond/hemp milk
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:13 AM

I don't drink milk, by the way, I was just curious.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:13 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

Cow milk has one purpose--to make a small calf into a half-ton heifer as soon as possible. Can work that way with humans too!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:13 AM

it's ok lee. i didn't delete you off my friends list
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:13 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Part of the reason I had to get out of public school was the food they give them. Who can teach 20 5th graders who have been amped-up on Cinnamon Tast Crunch and chocolate milk???? And then they crash at 11:00 and are useless until after lunch!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:13 AM

You thought about it!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:13 AM

it's well documented that prisoners eat better than school kids
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:13 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

We are the only species we know of that drinks the milk of another species and as adults as well.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:14 AM

they ran tests on meat at prisons and schools. the meat at prisons was higher grade...
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:14 AM

Apparently factory farms could facilitate the next pandemic - they are creating antibiotic resistant strains of evil shit.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Erik Schlintz

You can tell people that they should eat right and exercise all day, for all kinds of good reasons, but what is more important is to get the right information out there about what is healthy to eat. Different nutritionists give you different info.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

About 40% of all dairy cows in commercial production at any time have mastitis.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:14 AM

well yeah - any body exposed to constant anti-biotics will develop a resistance.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

Why is it that it costs $5 for 4 granola bites in a pack that is organic, raw organic and nutritious for my kids but the big family size double stuff Oreos cost $2 per pack.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:15 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

A higher grade of 'pink slime' at the prisons?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:15 AM

Lisa - exactly. We subsidize all kinds of crazy shit, which is why a McDonald's hamburger can cost only $2
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:15 AM

But a head of broccoli might cost 4.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:15 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Lisa, it's the fucking subsidies!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:15 AM

well, it's lobbying.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:16 AM

I've read that the actual cost of a hamburger should be about $60 if everything was taken into account.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:16 AM

when michelle obama did her fit campaign, she had to leave out any mention of eating right b/c it would conflict with corporate interests
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:16 AM

EL - How dare you insult FLOTUS!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:16 AM

Look how good her arms look though!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

LMAO really? she is so sad,

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:17 AM

ha - i know. i am kinda jealous of her muscle tone.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:17 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

I eat vegetarian and organic for $50 a week. Is that expensive? I dunno, but I'm not as sick as my friends are. They and their kids are sick every month, probably from "cheap food."

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:17 AM

Next question - I've read some things saying that it's bad to get too much soy. Is soy bad too?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:17 AM

too much, yes.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:17 AM

it has a lot of estrogen in it.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:17 AM

not to mention that monsanto's first little brain child was a round-up soy bean
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:17 AM

El - That explains my boobs.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:17 AM

i was going to compliment you on your moobs, lee
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:17 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

Our food choices are governed by the corporations that run the world. Let's face it...something has got to give!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:18 AM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

That was dis-proven about sot

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:18 AM

Comet - which part?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:18 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

instead of all this fucking gmo alien corn…why can't it be hemp instead…with a shitload of healthy byproducts!! WHY?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:18 AM

particularly since hemp grows INSANELY fast and actually leaves the soil healthier than when it was planted...yeah, what a concept
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:19 AM

bamboo is also like that
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

cuz they don't want us healthy

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:19 AM

grows like kudzu and can be used in everything from clothing to actual buildings
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:19 AM

Wayne - I don't know that it's intentional but it certainly does help them to have us fat and stupid.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

The US government doesn't want us healthy. That wouldn't be conducive to making money. If we were all healthy then the pharmaceutical corporations couldn't make money.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

A great way to eat well for cheaper is to KNOW YOUR FARMER!!!! Most who offer CSA deals also offer work-shar options. "Sweat equity." That's how my family is doing it right now, until we get moved and can grow our own.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

and you go talk to any permaculture person about hemp and they will tell you, its amazing plant.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

Monsanto doesn't make GMO hemp, so they don't want it in the ground and they'll pressure countries to use corn instead.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:20 AM

I read a great article about how fast foods, etc. are affecting our brain power. We can see fat on our bodies but we can see the effect on our brains.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:20 AM

@Rebecca - it's true. In Sweden (where I spent half my life), there is the address and phone number of the farm on the organic meat products
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

If you eat better, you feel better. i have done this with myself and with my students for years! Now I'm working with adults in fitness classes, and the change is amazing!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:21 AM

Rebecca - what do you eat?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:21 AM

Quick note - please everybody post on facebook that you're here! Or Twitter or whatever. Tell people to come by!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

But the most important thing is to eliminate as many GMOs as possible. Regardless of whether the GM part is harmful or not, that stuff is all soaked in glyphosate, which kills your gut flora and is possibly a neurotoxin.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

i am 54, i ahve been vego/vegan for over 20 years. i eat tempeh all the time. i recently had a dull blood checks, im supa fit

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

I eat real food.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:22 AM

Yeah, Tempeh ain't bad. What about Seitan - I'm a fan of that.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

So,how do you get kids of today to eat proper food?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:23 AM

@Rebecca - that's great! I am not as on it as you are, but I certainly try as often as I can to source local and cook for myself
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:23 AM

Lucy - hide it inside the KFC box.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

There is affordable healthy foods but it's not available to those who need it most. Go to the inner cities and try to find even a grocery store that sells fresh anything. Most only have corner stores filled with garbage that can't be food

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from Erik Schlintz

@Rebecca: It seems like a lot of your resources are tied up in eating healthy. Any suggestions for people who don't have time to grow their own food? Or who have black thumbs?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

I recently went glute-free for my husband to see if it ameliorates ADD symptoms, and it does.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:23 AM

@Rebecca - I cut back gluten considerably a few years ago and my memory got better. creepy
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:24 AM

Black thumbs. I like that. I've just been calling it "allergic to cooking"
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:24 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

Hey guys sorry late again...

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:24 AM

Missed ya, Becca!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:24 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

@Lucy: my kiddo (2 years old) does not have a food that he doesn't like. He has always eaten what we eat, within reason. When something has a strong flavor, we get excited about it. "Oh, that's so sour! yum!" "Oooh, is that zippy???"

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:24 AM

ha - for those with "black thumbs" - there's a lot you can do without turning on a stove
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:24 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Dude, Eleanor, my BALANCE got better. It is creepy!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:24 AM

I think my brother is doing well with his kid. He basically hasn't shown her all the shitty food that's out there. She thinks carrots are about as good as it gets. So she's happy.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

So my husband stacks those bags for a living...He has seen many seed bags for round-up ready soy crops and is amazed at the precautions printed on the bags

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:25 AM

Becca - Tell him to wear a mask
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:25 AM

yikes!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

Hmm, Erik, can you find anyone in your household who does have a greenthumb?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

and what about the parents who hook their kids on the happy meals, etc.? I think this is child abuse.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:26 AM

I agree. It is absolutely child abuse - to the body and mind
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:26 AM

an interesting question that I get asked sometimes is - can you fault them for not knowing better?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:26 AM

I think it's actually less abusive to smack them with the chicken tender than to feed it to them.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:26 AM

hahahaha
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:26 AM

I grew up on chicken nuggets, and somehow I'm still here.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:27 AM

lee - please have children
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:27 AM

Fuck no!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

There are a lot of parents that don't have options. Try growing up in the ghetto and being raised with only one parent and that parent works 3 jobs. Happy meals become the only option.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:27 AM

It is true that happy meals are the only option for a lot people
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

There is definintely a lack of education. Our doctors are not even educated on nutrition

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:27 AM

and that's why we have to change our subsidies.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:28 AM

And that's why we have to get money out of politics - so corporate influence isn't as strong.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:28 AM

and the overwhelming amount of information leaked through media. instead of showing a hot chick eating carls jr., can we have one eating a god damn carrot?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

It is always interesting to look at a child and you can pretty much tell if they are on the shit food or the real food diet.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:28 AM

El- when does your carrot commercial come out?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

From TZM http://www.shareable.net/blog/the-sharing-garden-shows-the-way-to-a-moneyless-food-system

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

@Lee raw milk is good for you but you won't find that in any store

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

ha - right after our music video ;)
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

I heard a study today that found that GLOBAL food diversity is down. We're ALL living on a couple dozen cash crops.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

Got carrots?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Erik Schlintz

What about almond milk?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

@Erik - almond milk is good. get unsweetened
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:29 AM

Let's get down to it - how much kale am I supposed to eat?? Because I've been set at 2 pieces per year for awhile now.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

@rebecca - do you have a link?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

hahahaha
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

put some in a morning smoothie, lee
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

Here's a video Lee did on Obesity Exchange - http://youtu.be/cqUBJhg3u1A

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:30 AM

you wouldn't even have to cook anything. just blend it to shit
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

@Eleanor a loin cub will suckle on a giraffe for milk if the giraffe let it and the cub's mom was dead so the answer is yes

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:30 AM

El- Where do I get these morning smoothies??
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:30 AM

@lisa. right - so would i. my point was a grown animal
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:30 AM

from a blender, I'm afraid.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:30 AM

but don't be scared. it's just a couple of buttons
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

Yeah, some kale, blueberries, almond milk...and a carrot.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:31 AM

I could even send you some recipes :)
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:31 AM

Will you send a person to blend it?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:31 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

Lee or eleanor plz ask name blue foods, I know only 2.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:31 AM

ha! I'll send Brian
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:31 AM

blue foods?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:31 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

All these CEOs of kfcmcshitkingtaco…etc, need to be taken to an international tribunal and put in a cage in the courtroom Russian style while court proceeds against these cruel fucks.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:32 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Crop diversity story: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/03/285335070/in-the-new-globalized-diet-wheat-soy-and-palm-oil-rule

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:32 AM

thanks rebecca!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:32 AM

Yeah - our biodiversity is getting terrible because the gmos are killing everything.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:32 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

People do your research...pasteurization is the evil here, not the milk. Raw milk in any form is highly nutritious.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:32 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

blueberry hiscus berries thats all I know for natural blue foods.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:33 AM

milk from animals is only good for the young in development stages. we don't need it past a certain point.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

@Lee: We need to stop blaming it on people being lazy and stupid. We need to cut the snake's head to release the venom.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:33 AM

Lisa, I agree. So who should we blame?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Right on, Lisa! Healthy animals and clean practices yield happy animals and lots of healthy, raw milk. When you have sich animals in CAFO situations, you have to cook it so people don't get the plague!!!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:34 AM

I do worry on food issues that being an absolutist makes people give up completely.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:35 AM

I don't eat meat but I would rather convince someone to avoid factory farms than to FAIL to convince them to never eat meat.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:35 AM

blue foods: eggplant, grapes, elderberries, prunes, plums, figs, purple cabbage
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

We need ask only one question--is it good for me? Is it good for the planet? Oh, wait, that's two.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

@Lee: Soy is used to increase estrogen so it's not good for everybody and unfortunately about 99% of soy grown in the US is GMO

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

LEE! YES! We all need to stop infighting! We need to fight the big fight, which is against the corporate food system!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:37 AM

I might move to a different subject if that's cool (of course we can keep talking food as well) - But did you see you can now drive a Tesla car coast to coast for free? Why are no media mentioning this??
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:37 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

Some people complain that they don't get as full on vegetables as they do on meat. What do you guys think? I eat flaxseeds w/ my meals to help fill me up.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:37 AM

Kailyn - I never get full on veggies.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:37 AM

@Lee - as for the Tesla - free doesn't pay
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:38 AM

as for the veggies - really?!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:38 AM

But it's INSANE for the media to leave that out WHILE talking endlessly about the iPhone or the angry birds app!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:38 AM

even i do and i used to eat half a cow just for a snack
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:38 AM

Lee have you ever had a Mcrib? Not tryn to get you to throw up or shed a tear im just askn?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:38 AM

What?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:38 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

It's probably true, Kailyn, but I think people need to suck it up and get used to doing things differently. LOL. No, it's true that the body feels sated more quickly with protein because it's a more complex molecule.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:38 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

And the body has to expend more energy to break it down, so it shuts off hunger sooner than with veggies.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:38 AM

El - You used to be a big meat eater?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:39 AM

oh yeah
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:39 AM

pretty much every day
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:39 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

Lee, how much is psychological? When you are raised with meat as the center of your meal..

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:39 AM

Becca - You're totally right. I'm amazed at the vitriol people throw when you talk about not eating meat.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:39 AM

i think it has a lot to do with how it's prepared
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:40 AM

i eat super fast and i was raised with meat, but i still feel full on veggies.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:40 AM

diversify!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:40 AM

I just did my video today on factory farms and rather than not watching or not saying anything, people are like "Those cows look delicious!" They're all very threatened.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

That is honestly harder than increasing access for people. Changing minds and habits is a big struggle!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

Unfortunately the chemical laden processed foods are the number one leading cause of Alzheimer's.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

Yeah Eleanor, a pile of raw veggies just doesnt do it for me

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:41 AM

After seeing a CAFO first hand, can't do meat
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:41 AM

Yeah Becca, nor me - not in terms of taste either
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

Fat doesn't make you fat and stupid. Healthy fats that aren't processed and laden with chemicals are actually extremely healthy for our bodies and mind.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

More states are banning taping of factory farm facilities. Crazy!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:41 AM

but hell, in a smoothie - or roasted, stuffed peppers, on a GF pizza - hell, you can do soooo much with veggies
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:42 AM

Kailyn - yeah, they're called "ag gag" bills and they're fucking fascist.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:42 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

I worry less about fat, cholesterol, etc and more about chemicals and antibiotics and ethical treatment of the animals

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:42 AM

People are sent to jail as "terrorists" for filming factory farms.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:42 AM

likewise becca.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:42 AM

There's a new documentary out about whether ANY plastics are safe.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:43 AM

Folks, don't forget to tell people you're here - post on your other pages. (thanks)
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

My brother in law was just mentioning -- an MD did "Supersize Me" with mcdonalds but exercised the whole time and fared a lot better than the original guy

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:43 AM

i don't doubt it. exercise does help
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:43 AM

however, it's about 80/2-
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:43 AM

80/20
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:43 AM

80% what you eat, 20% exercise
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:43 AM

Becca - yeah, Spurloch's results have not been duplicated but I think we can all agree fast food is terrible for us.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:44 AM

as a former personal trainer, people HATED hearing this. but food is your medicine, inside and out
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:44 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

Re: soy - Soybeans are heavily GMO'd so it's hard to control getting the organic stuff when going out to eat ...

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:44 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

Now I am enjoying kilos & kilos of raw mangoes thanks to a changing climate, mango season has already started here instead of around June! Isn't that lovely?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:44 AM

Yay climate change!!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Kailyn, that's some shit there, isn't it??? It's totally fascist. Big Meat even sued Oprah - that's how much power they have!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:45 AM

Let's start calling it "mango time"!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

yeah... whistle blowers are protected in the US... right....

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:45 AM

she won but it was millions of dollars later and basically never mentioned "not wanting to eat meat" ever again
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Erik Schlintz

How do you cut GMOs out of your diet when they don't have to be labelled? What's your strategy?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:46 AM

try as hard as you can to buy local and organic
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:46 AM

Article on the "ag gag" bills across the country - http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/06/ag-gag-laws-mowmar-farms
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:46 AM

and many companies (that you can google) have taken it upon themselves to label their products regardless
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:47 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

Sometimes it's hard to eat out with friends because I don't want to eat fried stuff and it's hard to find a 'healthy' restaurant that serves organic. Then there's the 'politics' of it all too and I have to explain it to my friends. A real downer.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:47 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

Unfortunately even here near Amish Country where it should be a lot better, most people are getting GMO seeds through commercial companies like Burpee and Heinz

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:47 AM

ironic, isn't it becca?
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

I think the country of origin should be on the food label.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

i'll blow Lee if we can get ppl to stop killing eveyrthing. i will lol

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

Is ALL GMO bad?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:48 AM

I can't tell if that's a threat or a prize?
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Becaa, we don't know because there haven't been any long-term studies.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:49 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

But Glyphosate (Roundup) is BAD BAD BAD, and that's what those seeds are designed to be doused in.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:49 AM

Yes, Becca, people who are pro-GMO will try to say "it's anti-science" to be against them but the truth is the studies have not been done -
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:49 AM

Some GMO foods could be proven safe if carefully tested but some tests have already shown great harm from various GMO's so Monsanto stops the testing
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:50 AM

And puts big money into funding people who do the science without doing the longterm tests.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:50 AM

the studies done that show that GMOs are safe for human consumption are sponsored by GMO companies
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

And in India, where the GMO cotton is made to resist boll weevil, not for consumption, it's still resulting in over 10,000 farmer suicides, so i would put that down in the bad column.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:50 AM

They also mercilessly attack any scientists who say GMO's are harmful. And since scientists need to have labs/universities/etc. it can destroy their career.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Exactly, Lee. It's a big revolving-door racket!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

I went to Disney a couple of years back wearing a STOP GMO shirt and a lot of people stopped me to ask what is GMO?!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:51 AM

they get black listed and sued, for millions of dollars.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:51 AM

@Lisa - happy they stopped and asked!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Check this out, though: http://www.responsibletechnology.org/10-Reasons-to-Avoid-GMOs

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:51 AM

So rather than find out which ones are safe, we're just using the entire human race as a 30-year guinea pig.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

But scientists who are working on GMO projects truly think they are saving the world by doing so.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kailyn Kyle

We protested at the monsanto home office and many stopped their cars to ask us why we were protesting GMOs. Being out there helps!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:52 AM

Kimba - That's sometimes true. The ones who create them (I know one and he's a great guy) are not responsible for testing them later. Their job is to create.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:52 AM

so often the case with science.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

OMG still in 2012 they don't know LOL, most people I talk to know what a gmo is.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

What is behind the claim that they can feed more people?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:52 AM

@becca
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:53 AM

that the seeds are weather resistant, resistant to pests, drought, etc.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:53 AM

Here's my video on GMO's to watch after the Tawk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYg1TJ9PZiQ
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:53 AM

basically, they're "super" seeds that will be able to withstand any changes in eco-systems
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:54 AM

El - And unfortunately killing "pests" means also killing a bunch other insects, which in turn kills other plants.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:54 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

Kailyn, I'd want a LOT more testing before calling any of them safe.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:54 AM

yep. it's called an eco-system for a reason.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:54 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

We may need them lol

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:54 AM

By the way, the GMO corps but HUGE amounts of money into pushing them on social networks and shit. So I'm not saying be paranoid, but if you hear random people talking about how great they are, you might wanna do some research.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

EF Schumacher posited that we don't have to stand for the endless march of willy-nilly technology; we can direct it. "His job was to create" is unacceptable. He shouldn't be charged with creating it if it's destructive.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

And it shouldn't be propagated until we prove that there CAN BE no harm, not propagated until the harm is apparent.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:55 AM

Yes, Rebecca, our future will be determined by what we do with technology - we can use it for good or evil.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:55 AM

@Rebecca, agreed. You should do a tawk on this!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:55 AM

Right now we seem to be headed towards evil.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

DDT, agent orange, alar.... remember those?

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:56 AM

yep, Mike. The company who made those? Monsanto
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:56 AM

But there is still some hints of good - Such as Tesla, and IBM has created a new solar magnifier that could solve the world's energy problems - if the oil and gas giants will let it happen.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:56 AM

absolutely. technology is one sharply double edged sword.
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

We've got just a few minutes left, I want to tell everyone in NYC that I have my first live filmed comedy special on March 16 & 17th. Also Eleanor has a big show in LA.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

@ Eleanor: we've got a Tawkers series going on EF Schumacher's Small is Beautiful:Economics as if People Mattered. This is exactly what we're discussing. Drop by sometime!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:57 AM

well, there ya go. will do!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

Tickets and details to my show are here - http://leecampnyc.brownpapertickets.com/
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

energy is only a problem because oil is forced down our throats. And coal.

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

As of now the BEST soil remediatior is and probably always will be HEMP so why isn't is growing almost everywhere????

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

Lee, yes, creators usually don't test. Testing is a whole other department.

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Thanks, Lee and Eleanor! This was wonderful!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:58 AM

Please tell your friends about our weekly Tawkers. We try to do it every Tuesday at 7pm. Feel free to submit topics at Facebook.com/LeeCampComedian
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from comet demuta

Engage empathy and love first, get people to care about the earth and her creatures then we can look at the use of teck

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:58 AM

Thanks everyone for joining in on the conversation!
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

dam it over already?

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:58 AM

Thanks everyone! Keep fighting!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

we need longer tawks

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:58 AM

yeah - let us know what topics you'd like us to cover in the future!
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

thanks for comin' out

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

Thank you!

Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:59 AM

rooftoprevolutionaries.com
Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey

@Lee I'm coming to see you next weekend! Yay!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:59 AM

Great! See you at the show.
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:59 AM

@rooftopeleanor @rooftoprev
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

Thanks Lee and Elanor!

Lee Camp

Lee Camp · 12:59 AM

@LeeCamp
Eleanor Goldfield

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

Forum, you guys are great! I feel like a normal person when I get to talk to other people who care about these things! Thanks!