Rebecca Westbrook Toker

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How to Change the World Part 1

May 5, 2014·40 visitors

Robin Maynard

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May 5, 2014

Robin Maynard joins me this week to discuss our latest find: Elina St-Onge's How to Change the World. nnGet the e-book here for free: https://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/12/free-ebook-this-book-has-everything-anyone-needs-to-know-to-wake-up-and-flip-the-paradigm/.nnLet's get busy with some paradigm shift!

Robin Maynard · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Happy Sunday y'all”

Robin Maynard · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“only got to page 18 so far, but I NOW have time after mid day today.”

Robin Maynard · 11:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“protest did not go so well for me but, I think, these tawks might be a better way to go.”

Robin Maynard · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“The concept of ownership is what makes it possible for a few to monopolize land and resources while the majority becomensubject to their rules and conditions. -- How to change the world”

Robin Maynard · 12:00 AM

ah ha! here we go!

Robin Maynard · 12:01 AM

hahaha this gonna be wack.

Robin Maynard · 12:01 AM

hello everyone, i seem to be on my own for my very first tawk = O

Robin Maynard · 12:01 AM

hi jordan! hey kelly

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

Aaaaah!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

Hi guys!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

Hello, Robin!

Robin Maynard · 12:02 AM

no, i had to click in =from a dif. email

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

SO SORRY!

Robin Maynard · 12:02 AM

its ok. rebecca

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

Whew!

Robin Maynard · 12:02 AM

kinda funny

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

I'm so happy to see you all here!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

happy Sunday!

Robin Maynard · 12:02 AM

yes, so glad to have you all here.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

Yes!

Robin Maynard · 12:03 AM

i dunno kelly. good with me.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

We'll get there!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

First, though, we have to be coherent.

Robin Maynard · 12:03 AM

thank you jordan!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

And introduce the book and stuff.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

Yes, a big welcome to Robin!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

What a wonderful lady she is!

Robin Maynard · 12:03 AM

agreed, jordan

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:04 AM

Everyone should go take a look at Robin's art!

Robin Maynard · 12:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“can we discuss this one ownership idea?”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:04 AM

it's on her facebook page and it's just...wow.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:04 AM

I am in love.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“The concept of ownership is what makes it possible for a few to monopolize land and resources while the majority becomensubject to their rules and conditions. -- How to change the world”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:04 AM

I love her colors, her lines and forms, her themes.

Robin Maynard · 12:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Congrats to Robin for her first time on stage!”

Robin Maynard · 12:04 AM

https://www.facebook.com/RobinMaynardFineArt?fref=ts

Robin Maynard · 12:05 AM

you got that right kelly ! = D

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:05 AM

You're not cool if you don't check it out. There, i said it!

Robin Maynard · 12:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Coherence is underrated.”

Robin Maynard · 12:05 AM

hahaha. thanks rebecca

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:05 AM

Alrighty, down to business:

Robin Maynard · 12:05 AM

yes. business before pleasure

Robin Maynard · 12:06 AM

thank you!

Robin Maynard · 12:06 AM

thank you kelly!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:06 AM

Tonight, we are introducing a primer on what this crowd hopes to do but maybe doesn't even think is possible.

Robin Maynard · 12:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Bad thing is, I'm not very coherent lol, working on it :).”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:06 AM

We're reading How to Change the World

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:06 AM

a free, short e-book

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:06 AM

by Elina St-Onge.

Robin Maynard · 12:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Wow I love the fish painting!”

Robin Maynard · 12:07 AM

it was a great read. like looking into my own brain. = D

Robin Maynard · 12:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Yep, I have seen it, very inspiring and unique, as far as I know.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:07 AM

It's simple, written in an accessible voice, and, well, yeah - it talks about things we mention here!\

Robin Maynard · 12:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I am SOOOOO there.”

Robin Maynard · 12:08 AM

quick, someone, provoke me!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:08 AM

Hahahaha!

Robin Maynard · 12:08 AM

what are you talking about kelly?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:08 AM

I'll just give the link, instead: https://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/12/free-ebook-this-book-has-everything-anyone-needs-to-know-to-wake-up-and-flip-the-paradigm/

Robin Maynard · 12:09 AM

thanks rebecca. you saved the day.

Robin Maynard · 12:09 AM

haha yeah, that'll provke me alright

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

“Hello y'all. I will have to read this ebook.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:09 AM

That's not true.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Break it down!”

Robin Maynard · 12:09 AM

au contraire, perhaps.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“upto page 18, its like I was writing it myself, just more coherent LOL.”

Robin Maynard · 12:10 AM

i'm guessing everyone present would agree

Robin Maynard · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“LOL got that highlighted so you could get it :) i saw that you went to highlight and mine got in its place :)”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:10 AM

(Jordan, I think the best way to shoot down bullshit is just to call it. Not argue. just say No and walk away)

Robin Maynard · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Robin. The Supreme Court is apolitical and objective.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“That's how I provoke you, btw.”

Robin Maynard · 12:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Yes, If you have not read this book, upto page 18, I think its ideas and reasonings we could all agree on. Many questions I love answering.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:11 AM

Actually, this is the direct link to the e-book: http://cdn2.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2014/01/How-To-Change-The-World.pdf

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“In honor of those who died at Kent State, I say standing up for what we believe is right is our sacred obligation.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Love it”

Robin Maynard · 12:12 AM

well, it starts out asking the question about are we disatisfied with some things currently in the world? and, YES i certainly am.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:12 AM

Indeed.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:13 AM

And, she mentions all the reasons that lots of people DON'T speak up:

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:13 AM

It's pretty uncomfortable.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:13 AM

But aren't we already uncomfortable?

Robin Maynard · 12:13 AM

Now, why are they going to war? Why isn’t alternative energy nused instead of oil? Why aren’t all the hungry and homeless fed and nsheltered? Why are people suffering in trafficking? Why is there a huge ndrug trade in the world? Why is the rainfor

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:13 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Kent State does not get enough attention. 4 dead in Ohio.”

Robin Maynard · 12:13 AM

i would say so, kelly

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:13 AM

I mean, not just Kent State, but everything since then. 4 dead in Ohio, but how many dead in Afghanistan???

Robin Maynard · 12:14 AM

big problem there, rick

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:14 AM

Yes, all of that! Rosner, Kelly and Robin!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:14 AM

So we can see very clearly what the problems ARE.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:14 AM

We know how it makes us FEEL.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:14 AM

But we're STUCK.

Robin Maynard · 12:15 AM

as we fund yet another war, and bailouts for the .... you know the drill.

Robin Maynard · 12:15 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“alienation syndrome?”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:15 AM

Right.

Robin Maynard · 12:15 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“Money, profit, money profit . . .”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:15 AM

And now, we can't even use the excuse that we're a democracy and that this is the voice of the many.

Robin Maynard · 12:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“every year, 3.6 million kids under the age of 5 die of starvation.”

Robin Maynard · 12:16 AM

i just saw someting... the top 85 richest people in the world have more wealth than the bottom 50%.. of the world.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:16 AM

"Because that's the way it is"

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“It's a shame we keep showing up for war.”

Robin Maynard · 12:16 AM

its always been that way

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“The greed of the few dictates the action of the many - to brutalize a Star Trek quote.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:16 AM

And after the author's note and the intro, that's what we launch into: "The way things are."

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:17 AM

We're stuck because we're myopic and have very short memories.

Robin Maynard · 12:17 AM

things pretty much suck if you ask me.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:17 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“But why are we stuck?”

Robin Maynard · 12:17 AM

lead on kelly = D

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:18 AM

She starts with education, though, and how the system sets us up to remain stuck.

Robin Maynard · 12:18 AM

should be, mike

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:18 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“but IS that the way it is?”

Robin Maynard · 12:18 AM

its a conspiracy to keep us docile and obedient

Robin Maynard · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I was just getting to the part about the hierarchy.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:19 AM

Hahaha, jordan. You're such a nerd! <3

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:19 AM

Star Trek?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:19 AM

Oh, wait, school.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:19 AM

Yeah.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:19 AM

That.

Robin Maynard · 12:19 AM

the problem was it was taken seriously

Robin Maynard · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Locker

“The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.. or the one I think was the Spock quote. Sick bay is free. No one pays for food, everyone has a job, contributes , and is taken care of”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:20 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I totally see that rebecca.”

Robin Maynard · 12:20 AM

i did not.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:20 AM

Robin, many pieces of satire have been taken that way.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:20 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“I am entirely motivated by the Star Trek vision of the future!”

Robin Maynard · 12:20 AM

fir sure rebecca

Robin Maynard · 12:20 AM

kelly's area of expertise. = D

Robin Maynard · 12:20 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Machiavellian writings from the prince might want to be taking with a sense of irony.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:21 AM

Dennis Trainor likes to point to the 80s character Gordon Gecko who gave the "Greed is Good" speech that was supposed to be satire and instead became a mantra!

Robin Maynard · 12:21 AM

any money involved with the venus project?

Robin Maynard · 12:21 AM

ugh. thats nastly rebecca.

Robin Maynard · 12:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Did you guys know replicators and holodeck on star trek the next generation were influenced by Jaque Fresco?”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:21 AM

Venus Project is featured in Zeitgeist Moving Forward.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:21 AM

You've probably seen it, Jordan.

Robin Maynard · 12:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“the founder of the venus project.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:21 AM

It's an integrated social planning design.

Robin Maynard · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“He really does have a designed world of abundance.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:22 AM

I personally have qualms with it, but it's better than what we have going now.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“What's that?”

Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

what kind of qualms, if you wish to say?

Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBIdk-fgCeQ larry king”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:23 AM

it's too heavily dependent on man-made design and doesn't go far enough back to natural design to suit my tastes.

Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

hi rachel

Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

i probably would have to agree with you rebecca

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:23 AM

I don't dig the futuristic utopia - i distrust it.

Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“resource based economy.”

Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“thats a 40 minute video of Jaque fresco on larry king in 1974.”

Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

leaves it alone?

Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Like the sounds if it already!”

Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

well thats depressing kelly

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:24 AM

Because, I mean, even door locks and automatic windows fail - frequently. if we can't get that right, can we really set our sights much higher?

Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“I'm late, but I'm here! HI EVERYONE! :D”

Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

back to the basics of long ago, in many ways, might be best.

Robin Maynard · 12:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“It leaves nature alone actually.”

Robin Maynard · 12:25 AM

plants? i planted some plants today.

Robin Maynard · 12:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“its the best we can do at this time and will eventually become a strait jacket just like money was and did.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:25 AM

I don't know what is best, but i can say that nature had it figured out just fine before we came along to "discover" what made it work, so we might juts need to learn a little bit.

Robin Maynard · 12:26 AM

exactly rebecca

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:26 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“its about being emergent.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:26 AM

hahaha. Now THAT's societal regression!

Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

how about back to playing outside and growing your own food and having some chickens for heavens sake? haha

Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“you need to look at production plants and the amounts of failures they have.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:27 AM

There are principles in the Venus project that are great. i like the circular community design.

Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“I'm all for going back to the way things were, as long as I can still watch The godfather with regularity”

Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“I wish people would get over thinking they have to be consistently rewarded somehow just to live, what a sad view of the human species, to many people we are apparently just a hamster running our wheel for our piece of cheese”

Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

thats weird, kelly

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:27 AM

I Love chickens. Not even kidding!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“maybe going back to the basics is the only way to show people we do all of this to LIVE and DEVELOP not for a piece of paper”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“All the way back to beta and vhs, Jordan”

Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

i love them too, rebecca

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:27 AM

Well, Jordan, even then, there was an oligarchy.

Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

not gonna eat them

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“nature has the cure for most things and it is also the main inspiration for many creations.”

Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

i hate to think we have to be fighting others to get along

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:28 AM

Yeah, Rick, i agree with you. But that's not how we make a healthy global community.

Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

good question rachel

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:28 AM

We need some evolution.

Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“even the airplane is a fish and a bird.”

Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“I think we have to restore checks and balances. What made America work in the old days was the acknowledgment that human nature cannot be trusted against corruption.”

Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

i dont think thats why rachel

Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“If money is part of the environment. corruption will be able to be done and will be done.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:29 AM

I think the only way we'd have global solidarity is if the aliens came.

Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“America worked best when there was a clear common external enemy. Unfortunately, the enemy is now us.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:29 AM

Then they would be the enemy.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:29 AM

*sigh.

Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

i hope thats not true, rebecca

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:29 AM

WHY AREN'T WE SMARTER???

Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“but that's the thing now that people are so dependent on such a "reward" how do you get people to think PAST that way of thinking?”

Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

because school.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:30 AM

Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

is not what it should be

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:30 AM

Back to chapter 1. Yes. Because school.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“You're right, Rebecca. I'm thinking somewhat specifically about The New Deal.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“No one says it's healthy - just that it is.”

Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

yep

Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“@Rick and it's sad that we have to be on the defense to be united as a country... our problem in a nut shell and probably why we are always at war”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:30 AM

Right?

Robin Maynard · 12:31 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Rick, don't think competitiveness has run things, while it has been used to learn from, cooperation has definitely had more to do with human evolution then competition.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:31 AM

I like what's going on with Kelly and Rick in the forum.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:31 AM

Kelly, I don't think competition has to run things, either.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:31 AM

I think it's a bad habit that we justify.

Robin Maynard · 12:31 AM

to expand our 'smarts', we need to be allowed to learn what er are interested in, be encourage to explore interests. not so confined to a boring (to some) curiculum.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:32 AM

I think "survival of the fittest" is a myth. A convenient myth.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:32 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“What a shame that climate change isn't taking the place of an alien invasion in uniting us.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:32 AM

YES, Robin!

Robin Maynard · 12:32 AM

the tought guys like it, rebecca

Robin Maynard · 12:32 AM

it is in the olympics anyway

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:32 AM

Well, the most current thinking is that humans were able to achieve all that they've achieved not through competition, anyway...

Robin Maynard · 12:33 AM

and organized sports

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:33 AM

but BECAUSE they are cooperative.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:33 AM

AND, further,

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“cooperation has done WAY more.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:33 AM

that's why we're seeing social disintegration, so may mental illnesses, etc. - because we've isolated ourselves in uncooperative groups.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“adaptable was later what darwin said.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:34 AM

Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Even most competition is undertaken in cooperation”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:34 AM

Rosner, you make a wonderful point.

Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

that aint the whole of it, but its a good assessment

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:34 AM

And THAT is OUR challenge.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:34 AM

Ah, Jordan, but I see that as teamwork.

Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“Cooperation exists among those with common interests. It's getting to agree what those common interest are that is the problem.”

Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“rightyo there rick.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:34 AM

because without the other sperm, NONE of them would survive.

Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

good communication is paramount

Robin Maynard · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Touché Rosner. Touché.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:35 AM

the whole mass changes the pH of the vagina enough to let them live and let one get in there and fertilize the egg.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:35 AM

That's pretty cooperative.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“If only I could make a living doing this.”

Robin Maynard · 12:35 AM

totally agree, rachel

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“The original human competition is sperm vs. sperm.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:36 AM

I agree.

Robin Maynard · 12:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“and often the meaning of one word being different between 2 people engaged in communication, can throw the entire meaning of the whole statement off. as well...”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:36 AM

I have had enough tough guy talk.

Robin Maynard · 12:36 AM

yes. old, rich , white guys have had their say for far too long.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:36 AM

Ba dum ching!

Robin Maynard · 12:36 AM

yer not old, jordan

Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“ok so right there Jordan you show another weakness... our societies are all so male driven which leads to more conflict and defense, we need more balance between the masculine-feminine dynamic in our world”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:37 AM

And he's not white, either. :P

Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

or rich, like we're talking about.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:37 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Good call.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:37 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“See, it always comes down to sex.”

Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

ok, yer safe then jordan.

Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“haha I am just saying balancing out our sexes strengths might help us out as a world :)”

Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Dam strait rachel, i agree.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:37 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“And I am just totally agreeing with you.”

Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

not necessarily

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:37 AM

Just stop with the raping and pillaging, okay????

Robin Maynard · 12:38 AM

stereotypes bite

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:38 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Yeah. We're such dicks.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:38 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“yeah you're not Jordan... and there are a lot of men who agree with the fact we need more balance”

Robin Maynard · 12:39 AM

caveman?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:39 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“I am a man tho, and we're pretty bad.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:39 AM

Robin Maynard · 12:39 AM

trillobite?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:39 AM

Okay, to get back to the book.

Robin Maynard · 12:39 AM

okay rebecca

Robin Maynard · 12:39 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“tawkers men are a big more progressive, which is AWESOME! ;)”

Robin Maynard · 12:39 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“"Are we not men?" The Island of Dr. Moreau.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:39 AM

She talks about education and the role it plays in keeping us stuck in our current paradigms...

Robin Maynard · 12:40 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“The Vikings. The original assholes.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:40 AM

because it shapes the way we look at the world.

Robin Maynard · 12:40 AM

precisely

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:40 AM

It has taken SO LONG to reprogram myself from public education!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:40 AM

Anyone else agree?

Robin Maynard · 12:41 AM

i am still finding things in the old program that need revising

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:41 AM

Me, too. :/

Robin Maynard · 12:41 AM

rage, describes it well

Robin Maynard · 12:41 AM

why?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:41 AM

I'm working through a book on Teddy Roosevelt right now. The Imperial Cruise.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:41 AM

Jeeeeezus!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:42 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“that,+ tv= mind screw”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:42 AM

Did you guys know that the progressive thinkers of the turn of the 20th century were Aryan-right folks?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:42 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Oh my god, it took me thirty years to unlearn the programming I had imposed on me”

Robin Maynard · 12:42 AM

umm no

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:42 AM

Yeah, man.

Robin Maynard · 12:42 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Not to mention the rage you feel when you realize how you've Ben lied to”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:42 AM

That's a mind fuck.

Robin Maynard · 12:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“They want you to be inraged.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:43 AM

We're talking Princeton, Harvard professors...and all the leaders they were cranking out.

Robin Maynard · 12:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“can you creatively think while enraged?”

Robin Maynard · 12:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“public education nearly killed me lol”

Robin Maynard · 12:43 AM

no, they dont like that

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:43 AM

Well, they traced the lineage back to norther India.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:44 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I did rebecca.”

Robin Maynard · 12:44 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“not to be dramatic but I HATED IT, I am an innovative creative person and I hate being told what to do”

Robin Maynard · 12:44 AM

what the heck is that, kelly?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:44 AM

And aserted that the lines that came from there and then went out to keep pillaging civilizations around the globe were the actual inheritors of the earth.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:44 AM

the only people fit to really run it.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:44 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“Aryan. Do you mean they were from northern india?”

Robin Maynard · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“public education is why I have such a problem with authority.. but I was always questioning everything, I guess they didn't like that ;)”

Robin Maynard · 12:45 AM

and therein lies our prolems

Robin Maynard · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“The worst ones come from the school of the americas rebecca.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:45 AM

They had to "follow the sun" west and keep taking over countries all around the globe until they got back around to Afghanistan/India.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:46 AM

Yeah, the School of the Americas. Just...no.

Robin Maynard · 12:46 AM

its been in the works a long time.

Robin Maynard · 12:46 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“those are the real tyrannical ones they have in the pocket books :).”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:46 AM

Yes, it has. And it has been sanctioned by the people in power.

Robin Maynard · 12:46 AM

definitely time for that paradigm shift.

Robin Maynard · 12:47 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Damn”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:47 AM

Indeed.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:47 AM

because White Right isn't making any friends.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:47 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“umm I cannot remember the names but people who are right now in change of entire countries were trained their and use psycological warfare they learned from that school.”

Robin Maynard · 12:47 AM

not in our ranks

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:48 AM

So, I think we just have to realize that these are the kinds of people who have been calling the shots.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“thank you rockafeller family :)”

Robin Maynard · 12:48 AM

they never grew up and joined the twentieth century.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:48 AM

We have to understand this, accept it as real...and then disallow it.

Robin Maynard · 12:48 AM

bad bully kids

Robin Maynard · 12:48 AM

disallow! yes! but how?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Seriously”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“yeah screw them what makes them think they can just go around conquering people? :p”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:49 AM

I don't know. but I aim to find out.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:49 AM

Like I told Jordan earlier, i think the best way to fight bullshit is just to call it.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:49 AM

EXACTLY, Kelly!

Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

not to continue to buy into the crazy materialism, conspicuous consomption thing would help.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:50 AM

Just say NO and walk away.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“how do you fight something that has been happening behind the scenes for SO LONG? Especially when the majority of the people won't believe it??”

Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“we need to get the people who work those jobs to realize this and stop.”

Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

yeah! make yer own stuff.

Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

get off the grid, if you can.

Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“the kock bros cannot weld their own pipeline.”

Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

pay is good. great. trade it for the future.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:51 AM

People ARE taking action. I mean, homeschooling is GROWING by leaps and bounds.

Robin Maynard · 12:51 AM

yes, i'm so glad rebecca

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“the cia is made up of agents.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“military DOES have drones.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“but mostly people fly and create them.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:51 AM

Parents are taking their kids out of the system and creating co-ops with othe rparents so there are little community schools.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:51 AM

because they want something different.

Robin Maynard · 12:51 AM

sweet. rebecca.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“yep.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:51 AM

Local Food movements are gaining momentum.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I know pipeline pays is good.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“yeah so fighting against them in the way you live your life is one thing we can ALL do!”

Robin Maynard · 12:52 AM

farmer's market is good

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:52 AM

I am so proud to be on the sustainable farmers market board here - and have a CSA work-share.

Robin Maynard · 12:52 AM

and "bountiful baskets"

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:52 AM

Oh yeah!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:52 AM

When I lived in Montana, BB was a life saver!

Robin Maynard · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I will be working on designs for wind solar nitinol whatever I can.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:52 AM

It's true!

Robin Maynard · 12:52 AM

i never actually got a basket. but it seems great.

Robin Maynard · 12:53 AM

its where we need to start

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:53 AM

And my kid has never eaten a gummy worm - he prefers radishes! Which is to say, it's not necessary to conform, goddammit! he's happy, potty trained and speaks in complete sentences at 2 1/2!

Robin Maynard · 12:53 AM

and i think awareness is spreading

Robin Maynard · 12:54 AM

wonderful rebecca!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:54 AM

I think so!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:54 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“look at the GMO-ban movement alone, look how fast people woke up to it and started spreading the news.. I think people are waking up, just have to keep calling out all this B.S.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:54 AM

And Robin, I recommend an organic basket.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:54 AM

Very affordable for what you get.

Robin Maynard · 12:54 AM

for sure, rebecca

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:54 AM

Tee hee, Rosner!

Robin Maynard · 12:54 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Yes, growth of awareness is the biggest achievement to date”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:55 AM

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I actually think my kid's achievements have little to do with me - they're just HIM. But he gets to shine through because he doesn't eat junk food or watch TV.

Robin Maynard · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“you are such a great mom Rebecca! Your kids are already ahead of the game! :)”

Robin Maynard · 12:55 AM

important features of quality parenting

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:56 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“And its hard to speak in complete sentences whilst eating a radish.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:56 AM

I'm just saying, I think these things suppress us.

Robin Maynard · 12:56 AM

school? no doubt

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:56 AM

And yeah, Kelly, I do like the basic design of Venus Project communities.

Robin Maynard · 12:56 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Are you totally rad? Or just a little radish?”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:56 AM

I like centralized tools that are shared.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:57 AM

I mean, do we all REALLY need a lawn mower, a blender, a chainsaw, a lift jack...

Robin Maynard · 12:57 AM

the commie shop?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:57 AM

We can share, if we learn how to be adults.

Robin Maynard · 12:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“ya rebecca, all the food needs of each city in venus project is fed from itself, no outside farming means no fences means freedom of nature.”

Robin Maynard · 12:57 AM

exactly

Robin Maynard · 12:58 AM

sounds so enriching, kelly

Robin Maynard · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“every idea stagenates.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:58 AM

Well, I don't know...I AM a teacher, so the "no structure" thing doesn't seem like it would work.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:58 AM

Unschooling is unsettling to me. :D

Robin Maynard · 12:59 AM

Kerly Jelly

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“its a place where everyone in a small comunity puts the tool and stuff into one place for anyone to use.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“can also go there and teach and learn.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:59 AM

That's right, Rick!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“at free will no force.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:59 AM

And many of them have social disintegration.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:59 AM

They implode.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:59 AM

PSYCHOLOGISTS are definitely in order!

Robin Maynard · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“that's cool Jelly!”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:59 AM

Seriously.

Robin Maynard · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“its a proposal me and some others are going to write to the government.”

Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

too bad it has to be so hard.

Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“That is some cool Jelly!”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:00 AM

There need to be referees because people don't always make the best communication choices.

Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“HEHEHEHE now I am jelly, i like it I am moldable :)”

Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

aint THAT the truth

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“We had those, communes. Problem, is the people fade in and out . . .”

Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Unspooling schooling is grueling.”

Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“no no that's kerly mccurvyson :)”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:01 AM

That's a big nod to the 3 of you who are in or pursuing the field.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:01 AM

Robin Maynard · 1:01 AM

i suppose with time, we can learn how to be adults... at last. and get along.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:01 AM

That's the hope!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:01 AM

It takes longer witout treatment...

Robin Maynard · 1:02 AM

is that just a blanket statement, jordan?

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“PSYCHOLOGY TO THE RESCUE!! :D”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:02 AM

Robin Maynard · 1:02 AM

true kelly

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:02 AM

We don't necessarily have to even diagnose anyone - just...you know, help facilitate.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:03 AM

People have trouble in relating to one another.

Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“you should watch the one video of jiddu krishnamurti and 2 psychologists.”

Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

of course it does.

Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“The hardest part of the pro psychology argument is that treatment takes a long time.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:03 AM

Especially in close quarters.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:03 AM

That's the biggest problem with social experiments...the PEOPLE.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“sometimes, a bad diagnosis can have dire effect and inflict a problem where there was none.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Exactly becca”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“Don't worry; death is the end of medical fees.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“lol”

Robin Maynard · 1:04 AM

not i, said the duck

Robin Maynard · 1:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“how many of us agree the environment has a deep effect on our behavior?”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:04 AM

And also kindness.

Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“again we need to shift our way of thinking, psychology is just an extension of what life is - constant growth and development... if you live well that is”

Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“there is a significant interaction between environment and personality variables Kelly you are correct!”

Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“yeah to me psychology just gives you the tools to know yourself and continue to improve yourself”

Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

lots of great thinking here!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:05 AM

If we live by a different set of values and mores, well, then we get different results.

Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Stupid human species...”

Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“ever read 100 million ginue pigs?”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:06 AM

You guys are wonderful!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“We need an environment of abundance and equality.”

Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“its the book that spawned the fda.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:06 AM

Okay, so, let's pick this up at chapter 2 next week?

Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Environment has a bigger impact on our behavior than even personality”

Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“empathy is definitely needed!”

Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“it does jordan so deeply”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:06 AM

Does Sunday work for you guys, or another day?

Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

sounds good rebecca.

Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“You can only know yourself from your own perspective - and that is of limited utility.”

Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“I agree Jordan, I do think that environment is a huge thing that shapes who we are and who we become, especially when talking about strong situations that can really mess with a person :/”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“which is why our society needs to be about helping not hurting”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Its so helpful for understanding jordan.”

Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Empathy is the secret ingredient to transformation”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:07 AM

Oh my gosh, to Rick and Kelly's point, really quickly, i want to tell you guys about this book I'm listening to!

Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

yer welcome, rosner. and thank you for being here.

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:07 AM

Look up Thanks for the Feedback: The Art and Acience of Taking Feedback Well.

Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

thanks rachel.

Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

hahaha. well, thanks jordan

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:08 AM

Holy moly, it explains so much about how we communicate, or fail to, or see ourselves, or fail to.

Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“@Rick that's true, which is why our social interactions and the people we surround ourselves with is such an important decision”

Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

yes it was

Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Same bat time, same bat channel”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:08 AM

Yes, Robin, this was super fun!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:08 AM

I apologize for being late!

Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“ok sunday then?”

Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

almost horrendous! - D i was.

Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“yeah Sundays work for me... wohoo this time next week finals will be over! :D”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:08 AM

And i'm so happy we get to do this some more!

Robin Maynard · 1:09 AM

no prob rebecca

Robin Maynard · 1:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“Thank you Rebecca and Robin.”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:09 AM

Thanks, forum! You guys are my favorites!

Robin Maynard · 1:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“Great Tawk Rebecca and Robin! And Everyone!! :D”

Robin Maynard · 1:09 AM

its a whole different thing on this side of the screen.

Robin Maynard · 1:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Hey, before we go...WAY TO GO, ROBIN, GREAT JOB!”

Robin Maynard · 1:09 AM

yep they are the GREATEST!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:09 AM

You rocked it, Robin!

Robin Maynard · 1:10 AM

G'NITE RACHEL;

Robin Maynard · 1:10 AM

dont wither away, kelly, we need you

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:10 AM

Good luck on finals, grad students!

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Good game, good game, good game, good game, good game, good game”

Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 1:11 AM

We love you!

Robin Maynard · 1:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“haha great tawk night all! :)”

Robin Maynard · 1:11 AM

you too kelly

Robin Maynard · 1:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I just keep talking wither way LOL.”

Robin Maynard · 1:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“ok”

Robin Maynard · 1:12 AM

Robin Maynard · 1:13 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“love you all have a good life.”

Robin Maynard · 1:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“LOL nice context catch :)”

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Jordan BirnbaumMay 4, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

Happy Sunday y'all

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:54 PM

Yep, good read this was so far.

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

only got to page 18 so far, but I NOW have time after mid day today.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 4, 2014, 11:55 PM

Hi Kelly. How you doin?

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:55 PM

good,

Jordan BirnbaumMay 4, 2014, 11:56 PM

Haven't read it yet. Looking forward.

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:56 PM★ Spotlighted

protest did not go so well for me but, I think, these tawks might be a better way to go.

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:57 PM

Something about the force of protest seeming wrong to me.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 4, 2014, 11:58 PM

Are you disappointed?

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:58 PM

nope.

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

The concept of ownership is what makes it possible for a few to monopolize land and resources while the majority becomensubject to their rules and conditions. -- How to change the world

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:58 PM

Quote from this book

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:58 PM

I was not surprised really jordan.

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:59 PM

But i had to try and see for myself with my own eyes.

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:59 PM

LOL boom

kelly mackinMay 4, 2014, 11:59 PM

hello everyone.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:00 AM

just talk in the comments part :)

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:00 AM

Think they're having trouble?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:00 AM

rebecca was trying to make it later but didnt work. Robin is new to this.\

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:00 AM

refresh?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:01 AM

Hi Robin!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:01 AM

ahha

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:01 AM

there we go.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:01 AM

hehehe its ok.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:02 AM

U always have us!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:02 AM

not alone ahha

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:02 AM

np.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:02 AM

And they're off!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:02 AM★ Spotlighted

can we discuss this one ownership idea?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:02 AM★ Spotlighted

Congrats to Robin for her first time on stage!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:02 AM★ Spotlighted

The concept of ownership is what makes it possible for a few to monopolize land and resources while the majority becomensubject to their rules and conditions. -- How to change the world

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:03 AM

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:03 AM★ Spotlighted

Coherence is underrated.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:03 AM

I only got to page 18 so far, was very busy past 4 days.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:03 AM

Agreed

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:04 AM

Post a link?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:04 AM

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:04 AM★ Spotlighted

Bad thing is, I'm not very coherent lol, working on it :).

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:05 AM

LMAO.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:05 AM★ Spotlighted

Wow I love the fish painting!

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:05 AM

I'll check it out later

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:06 AM★ Spotlighted

Yep, I have seen it, very inspiring and unique, as far as I know.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:06 AM★ Spotlighted

I am SOOOOO there.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:07 AM★ Spotlighted

Break it down!

Johnathonfall thethirdMay 5, 2014, 12:07 AM★ Spotlighted

Hello y'all. I will have to read this ebook.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:07 AM★ Spotlighted

upto page 18, its like I was writing it myself, just more coherent LOL.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:07 AM

Hey there fall

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:08 AM

Hello Jordanski

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:08 AM

Rosner! Long time!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:08 AM★ Spotlighted

LOL got that highlighted so you could get it :) i saw that you went to highlight and mine got in its place :)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:08 AM

hehehehehehe

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:09 AM★ Spotlighted

Robin. The Supreme Court is apolitical and objective.

Johnathonfall thethirdMay 5, 2014, 12:09 AM

I don't believe enough people speak up.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:09 AM★ Spotlighted

That's how I provoke you, btw.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:09 AM★ Spotlighted

Yes, If you have not read this book, upto page 18, I think its ideas and reasonings we could all agree on. Many questions I love answering.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:10 AM

What are some of the big ideas?

Johnathonfall thethirdMay 5, 2014, 12:10 AM

If they aren't directly effected by wordily events, they don't seem to be concerned and this is a huge problem.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:10 AM★ Spotlighted

In honor of those who died at Kent State, I say standing up for what we believe is right is our sacred obligation.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:10 AM★ Spotlighted

Love it

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:11 AM

Here here, rick

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:11 AM

We could even use this as a launch point.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:11 AM

Does this book offer any solutions to money?

Johnathonfall thethirdMay 5, 2014, 12:11 AM

I have to prepare breakfast now for the waking kids.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:11 AM★ Spotlighted

Kent State does not get enough attention. 4 dead in Ohio.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:12 AM

I've never stopped mourning for what we lost at the end of the 60s. . . .

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:12 AM

Ya, I wish I had the time to read it before this tawk.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:12 AM

pg 18 was not enough.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:12 AM

1/5th

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:13 AM★ Spotlighted

alienation syndrome?

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:13 AM★ Spotlighted

Money, profit, money profit . . .

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:14 AM★ Spotlighted

every year, 3.6 million kids under the age of 5 die of starvation.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:14 AM★ Spotlighted

The greed of the few dictates the action of the many - to brutalize a Star Trek quote.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:14 AM★ Spotlighted

It's a shame we keep showing up for war.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:15 AM

LOL yes so true you 2.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:15 AM

I know jordan, if we could get people to see what they themselves are doing like police and military.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:15 AM★ Spotlighted

But why are we stuck?

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:15 AM

The amazing thing about war now is that there's no draft - people just show up to make a living.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:15 AM

LMAO, never could.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:16 AM

money.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:16 AM

LOL oh ya.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:16 AM★ Spotlighted

but IS that the way it is?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:16 AM

yep.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:17 AM★ Spotlighted

I was just getting to the part about the hierarchy.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:17 AM

And I am definitely looking for an alternative to money.

Mike LockerMay 5, 2014, 12:18 AM★ Spotlighted

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.. or the one I think was the Spock quote. Sick bay is free. No one pays for food, everyone has a job, contributes , and is taken care of

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:18 AM★ Spotlighted

I totally see that rebecca.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:18 AM★ Spotlighted

I am entirely motivated by the Star Trek vision of the future!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:19 AM★ Spotlighted

Machiavellian writings from the prince might want to be taking with a sense of irony.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:19 AM

Don't tell anyone!

Mike LockerMay 5, 2014, 12:19 AM

Me too. A hopeful one ;)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:19 AM★ Spotlighted

Did you guys know replicators and holodeck on star trek the next generation were influenced by Jaque Fresco?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:20 AM

I know robin, it was.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:20 AM

Who's he?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:20 AM★ Spotlighted

the founder of the venus project.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:20 AM★ Spotlighted

What's that?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:20 AM★ Spotlighted

He really does have a designed world of abundance.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:21 AM★ Spotlighted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBIdk-fgCeQ larry king

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:21 AM★ Spotlighted

thats a 40 minute video of Jaque fresco on larry king in 1974.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:22 AM★ Spotlighted

resource based economy.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:22 AM★ Spotlighted

Like the sounds if it already!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:22 AM

wanna end war. end border, wanna end stealing, make everything abundant and free.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:22 AM★ Spotlighted

I'm late, but I'm here! HI EVERYONE! :D

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:23 AM

What are your questions with it rebecca?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:23 AM

Birthday girl!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:23 AM★ Spotlighted

It leaves nature alone actually.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:23 AM

Aw thanks Jordan! :)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:23 AM

its not a utopia.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:24 AM

I'll trust any utopia, as long as it's utopia!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:24 AM★ Spotlighted

its the best we can do at this time and will eventually become a strait jacket just like money was and did.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:24 AM

yes.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:24 AM★ Spotlighted

its about being emergent.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:24 AM

you have a bad tv idea of machines.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:25 AM★ Spotlighted

you need to look at production plants and the amounts of failures they have.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:25 AM

when profit is involved you bet they have the best, we get shit.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:25 AM★ Spotlighted

I'm all for going back to the way things were, as long as I can still watch The godfather with regularity

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:25 AM★ Spotlighted

I wish people would get over thinking they have to be consistently rewarded somehow just to live, what a sad view of the human species, to many people we are apparently just a hamster running our wheel for our piece of cheese

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:26 AM

definitely.

Mike LockerMay 5, 2014, 12:26 AM

I suppose the first step is to surgically Identify the most corrupting influences of speech = money. And create a communication portal to reach a mass of consumers who will abstain from that company or corporations services.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:26 AM★ Spotlighted

All the way back to beta and vhs, Jordan

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:26 AM★ Spotlighted

maybe going back to the basics is the only way to show people we do all of this to LIVE and DEVELOP not for a piece of paper

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:26 AM★ Spotlighted

nature has the cure for most things and it is also the main inspiration for many creations.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:26 AM

VHS and Cassettes were awesome! talk about a product that lasts! :)

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:26 AM★ Spotlighted

I think we have to restore checks and balances. What made America work in the old days was the acknowledgment that human nature cannot be trusted against corruption.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:27 AM★ Spotlighted

even the airplane is a fish and a bird.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:27 AM★ Spotlighted

If money is part of the environment. corruption will be able to be done and will be done.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:28 AM★ Spotlighted

America worked best when there was a clear common external enemy. Unfortunately, the enemy is now us.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:28 AM★ Spotlighted

but that's the thing now that people are so dependent on such a "reward" how do you get people to think PAST that way of thinking?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:28 AM★ Spotlighted

You're right, Rebecca. I'm thinking somewhat specifically about The New Deal.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:28 AM★ Spotlighted

@Rick and it's sad that we have to be on the defense to be united as a country... our problem in a nut shell and probably why we are always at war

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:29 AM★ Spotlighted

No one says it's healthy - just that it is.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:29 AM★ Spotlighted

Rick, don't think competitiveness has run things, while it has been used to learn from, cooperation has definitely had more to do with human evolution then competition.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:29 AM

Totally agree Kelly! Well said!

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:29 AM

Kelly, what about survival of the fittest?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:30 AM

nope darwin took that back later in his life.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:30 AM

He said survival is the most adaptable in the end.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:30 AM

and think about it.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:30 AM★ Spotlighted

What a shame that climate change isn't taking the place of an alien invasion in uniting us.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:30 AM

The most adaptable is the fittest.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:30 AM

adaptable DOeS survive, look at bugbears and cockroaches.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:31 AM

yes.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:31 AM

And that's what survives.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:31 AM

Just words.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:31 AM

I know

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:31 AM★ Spotlighted

cooperation has done WAY more.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:32 AM

it is rebecca.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:32 AM★ Spotlighted

adaptable was later what darwin said.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:32 AM★ Spotlighted

Even most competition is undertaken in cooperation

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:32 AM★ Spotlighted

Cooperation exists among those with common interests. It's getting to agree what those common interest are that is the problem.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:32 AM

hmm interesting.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:33 AM★ Spotlighted

rightyo there rick.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:33 AM★ Spotlighted

Touché Rosner. Touché.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:33 AM★ Spotlighted

If only I could make a living doing this.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:34 AM★ Spotlighted

and often the meaning of one word being different between 2 people engaged in communication, can throw the entire meaning of the whole statement off. as well...

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:34 AM★ Spotlighted

The original human competition is sperm vs. sperm.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:34 AM

the following context changes all that came before it most time.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:34 AM

Like bombarding the castle?

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:35 AM★ Spotlighted

ok so right there Jordan you show another weakness... our societies are all so male driven which leads to more conflict and defense, we need more balance between the masculine-feminine dynamic in our world

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:35 AM

I heard, the female eggs zygote, only accepts the perfect size sperm and that's why it looks like it takes so many.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:35 AM★ Spotlighted

See, it always comes down to sex.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:35 AM★ Spotlighted

Good call.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:35 AM★ Spotlighted

haha I am just saying balancing out our sexes strengths might help us out as a world :)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:36 AM★ Spotlighted

Dam strait rachel, i agree.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:36 AM★ Spotlighted

And I am just totally agreeing with you.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:36 AM

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:36 AM

I know of one way.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:36 AM★ Spotlighted

Yeah. We're such dicks.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:36 AM

we need to stop seeing cooperation as "weakness" because it's not

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:36 AM

we need more women philosophers :).

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:37 AM

Or rich

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:37 AM

Jordan, you're not old. Yet.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:37 AM★ Spotlighted

yeah you're not Jordan... and there are a lot of men who agree with the fact we need more balance

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:37 AM

I can be, but try and control it.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:37 AM★ Spotlighted

I am a man tho, and we're pretty bad.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:37 AM★ Spotlighted

tawkers men are a big more progressive, which is AWESOME! ;)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:37 AM

LOL

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:38 AM★ Spotlighted

"Are we not men?" The Island of Dr. Moreau.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:38 AM

LMAO rick

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:38 AM

ahahahahaha

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:38 AM

oh my god I haven't thought of that movie in YEARS Rick! lol!

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:38 AM★ Spotlighted

The Vikings. The original assholes.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:38 AM

hmmm

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:38 AM

the original assholes?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:39 AM

Phoenicians

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:39 AM

Well, for pillaging, yeah

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:39 AM

ya, but the phoenicians used money :)

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:39 AM

Worst typecasting: Tony Curtis as a Viking. From Brooklyn.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:39 AM

OH YES>

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:39 AM

education?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:39 AM

I don't know my ancient civilizations well enough to be making any assertions. But it did make people smile.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:39 AM

LOL

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:40 AM

I bet there were no knaidlach in a Viking settlement.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:40 AM★ Spotlighted

Oh my god, it took me thirty years to unlearn the programming I had imposed on me

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:40 AM★ Spotlighted

that,+ tv= mind screw

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:41 AM

you must unlearn what you have learned--- yoda HEHEHE.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:41 AM★ Spotlighted

Not to mention the rage you feel when you realize how you've Ben lied to

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:41 AM★ Spotlighted

They want you to be inraged.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:41 AM★ Spotlighted

can you creatively think while enraged?

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:42 AM★ Spotlighted

public education nearly killed me lol

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:42 AM

LOL rachel.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:42 AM★ Spotlighted

not to be dramatic but I HATED IT, I am an innovative creative person and I hate being told what to do

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:42 AM★ Spotlighted

I did rebecca.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:42 AM

Fair point Kelly

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:43 AM

force= fear drivin invitation= something else :)

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:43 AM★ Spotlighted

Aryan. Do you mean they were from northern india?

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:43 AM★ Spotlighted

public education is why I have such a problem with authority.. but I was always questioning everything, I guess they didn't like that ;)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:43 AM★ Spotlighted

The worst ones come from the school of the americas rebecca.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:44 AM★ Spotlighted

those are the real tyrannical ones they have in the pocket books :).

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:45 AM★ Spotlighted

Damn

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:45 AM

Vey good, Rebecca. I knew you were a reader.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:45 AM★ Spotlighted

umm I cannot remember the names but people who are right now in change of entire countries were trained their and use psycological warfare they learned from that school.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:46 AM

look it up school of america's.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:46 AM

yes it has.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:46 AM★ Spotlighted

thank you rockafeller family :)

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:47 AM★ Spotlighted

Seriously

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:47 AM

wtf I mean I don't see how this happens.. jesus.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:47 AM

its been happening for years now.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:47 AM★ Spotlighted

yeah screw them what makes them think they can just go around conquering people? :p

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:47 AM

in the 80's that nothingness, that was BS behind the curtains.

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:48 AM

I like you, Rebecca. You're smart; you read; you question; you seem to live a worthwhile life.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:48 AM★ Spotlighted

how do you fight something that has been happening behind the scenes for SO LONG? Especially when the majority of the people won't believe it??

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:48 AM

the ideas of the world have been the ideas of its ruling class-- Marx/engles.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:48 AM★ Spotlighted

we need to get the people who work those jobs to realize this and stop.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:49 AM★ Spotlighted

the kock bros cannot weld their own pipeline.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:49 AM

I agree Kelly

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:49 AM★ Spotlighted

the cia is made up of agents.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:49 AM

I hope you do Rebecca! We need more champions of the people! :D

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:49 AM★ Spotlighted

military DOES have drones.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:49 AM★ Spotlighted

but mostly people fly and create them.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:50 AM

we need to reach those people.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:50 AM★ Spotlighted

yep.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:50 AM★ Spotlighted

yeah so fighting against them in the way you live your life is one thing we can ALL do!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:50 AM★ Spotlighted

I know pipeline pays is good.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:50 AM

but it is nothing to how much the ceo makes.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:50 AM

YES get off grid.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:51 AM★ Spotlighted

I will be working on designs for wind solar nitinol whatever I can.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:51 AM

I still think we need our own city.. Tawkersville ;)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:51 AM

The kids at the house I live in( my cousin's) are homeschooled.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:51 AM

exactly rebecca.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:51 AM

YEs.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:52 AM

Homeschooling it is!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:52 AM

police quiting their jobs.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:52 AM

bankers killing themselves(or conspiiracy) either way.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:52 AM★ Spotlighted

look at the GMO-ban movement alone, look how fast people woke up to it and started spreading the news.. I think people are waking up, just have to keep calling out all this B.S.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:53 AM

right you are rachel, even monsato is looking at non gmo for its money properties cuz of the markey flux.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:53 AM★ Spotlighted

Yes, growth of awareness is the biggest achievement to date

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:53 AM

but how to make it very VERY easy to understand?

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:53 AM

haha suck it Monsanto!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:54 AM

nice becca.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:54 AM

I used to not be able to have these discussions without getting people too upset. Now everyone stipulates to it.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:54 AM★ Spotlighted

you are such a great mom Rebecca! Your kids are already ahead of the game! :)

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:54 AM★ Spotlighted

And its hard to speak in complete sentences whilst eating a radish.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:54 AM

LMAO rick

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:55 AM★ Spotlighted

Are you totally rad? Or just a little radish?

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:55 AM

lol!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:55 AM★ Spotlighted

ya rebecca, all the food needs of each city in venus project is fed from itself, no outside farming means no fences means freedom of nature.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:56 AM★ Spotlighted

every idea stagenates.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:56 AM

that's why the buddist do mandalas.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:56 AM

OH YES>

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:57 AM

didnt you see my one post?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:57 AM

the commie shop?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:57 AM★ Spotlighted

its a place where everyone in a small comunity puts the tool and stuff into one place for anyone to use.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:57 AM★ Spotlighted

can also go there and teach and learn.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:57 AM★ Spotlighted

at free will no force.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:58 AM★ Spotlighted

that's cool Jelly!

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:58 AM

*Kelly not Jelly! lol

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 12:58 AM★ Spotlighted

We had those, communes. Problem, is the people fade in and out . . .

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:58 AM★ Spotlighted

its a proposal me and some others are going to write to the government.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:58 AM★ Spotlighted

That is some cool Jelly!

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:58 AM

haha it's a new phrase Jordan, ;)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:58 AM★ Spotlighted

HEHEHEHE now I am jelly, i like it I am moldable :)

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:59 AM

ok that's your new nickname :D

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:59 AM

LMAO

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 12:59 AM★ Spotlighted

Unspooling schooling is grueling.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 12:59 AM

ooh I like the idea of unschooling!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:59 AM★ Spotlighted

no no that's kerly mccurvyson :)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:59 AM

emergent.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 12:59 AM

how to make an emergent idea?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:00 AM

OH YA

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:00 AM

I know I don't :)

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:00 AM★ Spotlighted

PSYCHOLOGY TO THE RESCUE!! :D

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:00 AM

ahhh before we say to the rescue.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:01 AM★ Spotlighted

you should watch the one video of jiddu krishnamurti and 2 psychologists.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:01 AM★ Spotlighted

The hardest part of the pro psychology argument is that treatment takes a long time.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:01 AM★ Spotlighted

sometimes, a bad diagnosis can have dire effect and inflict a problem where there was none.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:02 AM★ Spotlighted

Exactly becca

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 1:02 AM★ Spotlighted

Don't worry; death is the end of medical fees.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:02 AM★ Spotlighted

lol

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:02 AM

Lol rick

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:02 AM★ Spotlighted

how many of us agree the environment has a deep effect on our behavior?

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:03 AM★ Spotlighted

again we need to shift our way of thinking, psychology is just an extension of what life is - constant growth and development... if you live well that is

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 1:03 AM

I'm a laugh riut, Jordan. Me and Kierkagard (sp)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:03 AM

we can diagnose ourselves, if we asked the right questions.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:03 AM★ Spotlighted

there is a significant interaction between environment and personality variables Kelly you are correct!

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:03 AM★ Spotlighted

yeah to me psychology just gives you the tools to know yourself and continue to improve yourself

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:03 AM★ Spotlighted

Stupid human species...

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:04 AM★ Spotlighted

ever read 100 million ginue pigs?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:04 AM★ Spotlighted

We need an environment of abundance and equality.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:04 AM★ Spotlighted

its the book that spawned the fda.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:04 AM★ Spotlighted

Environment has a bigger impact on our behavior than even personality

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:04 AM★ Spotlighted

empathy is definitely needed!

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:04 AM★ Spotlighted

it does jordan so deeply

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 1:05 AM★ Spotlighted

You can only know yourself from your own perspective - and that is of limited utility.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:05 AM★ Spotlighted

Empathy is the secret ingredient to transformation

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:05 AM

even spiritually, the bozons are environment. I don't know how many will catch that but there it is.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:05 AM★ Spotlighted

I agree Jordan, I do think that environment is a huge thing that shapes who we are and who we become, especially when talking about strong situations that can really mess with a person :/

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:05 AM★ Spotlighted

Its so helpful for understanding jordan.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:05 AM★ Spotlighted

which is why our society needs to be about helping not hurting

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:06 AM

cooperation needs to become the stories of today not the competitive hero story.

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:06 AM★ Spotlighted

@Rick that's true, which is why our social interactions and the people we surround ourselves with is such an important decision

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:06 AM

I chose to learn others perspectives rick?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:06 AM★ Spotlighted

Same bat time, same bat channel

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:06 AM

what you think about that?

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 1:07 AM

Good luck with that.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:07 AM

LOL it going well.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:07 AM★ Spotlighted

ok sunday then?

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:07 AM★ Spotlighted

yeah Sundays work for me... wohoo this time next week finals will be over! :D

Rick RosnerMay 5, 2014, 1:07 AM★ Spotlighted

Thank you Rebecca and Robin.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:07 AM★ Spotlighted

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:07 AM★ Spotlighted

Great Tawk Rebecca and Robin! And Everyone!! :D

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:08 AM★ Spotlighted

Hey, before we go...WAY TO GO, ROBIN, GREAT JOB!

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:08 AM

yay was this your first tawk? CONGRATS! you did awesome! :)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:08 AM

ok thanks for the feedback?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:08 AM

NICE.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:08 AM

And Becca, you go without saying of course!

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:08 AM

now that's IMMEDIATE feedback Jordan... just like a good psychologist ;)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:08 AM

hardly late.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:08 AM

LMAO

Rachel McDonnellMay 5, 2014, 1:09 AM★ Spotlighted

haha great tawk night all! :)

Jordan BirnbaumMay 5, 2014, 1:09 AM★ Spotlighted

Good game, good game, good game, good game, good game, good game

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:09 AM

LOL

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:09 AM

is it?

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:10 AM★ Spotlighted

I just keep talking wither way LOL.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:10 AM

either

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:10 AM★ Spotlighted

love you all have a good life.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:11 AM★ Spotlighted

LOL nice context catch :)

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:12 AM

OH i have to get a Henry Ford quote in.

kelly mackinMay 5, 2014, 1:12 AM

If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right.nHenry Ford