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How to Change the World Part 2

May 12, 2014

RM
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May 12, 2014

Robin Maynard joins me again this week to take on part 2 of our latest find: Elina St-Onge's How to Change the World. nnGet the e-book here for free: http://cdn2.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2014/01/How-To-Change-The-World.pdf.nnLet's get busy with some paradigm shift!

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Robin Maynard · 11:50 PM

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Happy Mother's Day!

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Robin Maynard · 11:50 PM

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yep happy mothers day.

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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 11:58 PM

Hi there, guys!
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Robin Maynard · 11:58 PM

oh! here i am!
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 11:59 PM

Unfortunately, I am having "life events" this week. I just can't do this Tawk tonight.
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 11:59 PM

I'm glad you're all here! Robin is a sport!
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 11:59 PM

Mr. Kelly Mackin is going to stand in for me in the forum.
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:00 AM

He's great and I appreciate that he stepped up last-minute!
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:00 AM

Actually, part of this is funny, and I'll share it here:
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Robin Maynard · 12:00 AM

havin trouble with this
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:00 AM

My in-laws just accused me of having emotional affairs via Tawkers.
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Robin Maynard · 12:00 AM

ooh works now!
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:00 AM

Which, while hilarious, is also nuts.
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:01 AM

So I have to go sort some shit out.
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:01 AM

Right?
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Robin Maynard · 12:01 AM

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I found it very like minded to myself.

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Robin Maynard · 12:01 AM

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So did anyone else read this book yet, other then robin and rebecca?

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Robin Maynard · 12:01 AM

you're not allowed to have "invisible" friends?
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:01 AM

Hahaha!
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:01 AM

This is what happens when old people try to understand the internet.
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Robin Maynard · 12:02 AM

ya. sorry to hear it, rebecca.
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

ANyway, thank you for understanding.
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:02 AM

I'll miss you guys til next week!
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Robin Maynard · 12:03 AM

ok, kelly let's see if we can make this roll!
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

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what is an emotional affair?

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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

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Good friends?

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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

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i know

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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:03 AM

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LOL some peoples parents :) hhehehehe

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Robin Maynard · 12:03 AM

yep, conditioning at its finest
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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:04 AM

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LMAO

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Rebecca Westbrook Toker · 12:04 AM

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ok later rebecca.

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Robin Maynard · 12:04 AM

crazyness here.
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Robin Maynard · 12:05 AM

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understanding sounds like the solution.

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Robin Maynard · 12:05 AM

According to society, money equals life. That is why earning a living is synonymous with earning money. -- Elina St-Onge
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Robin Maynard · 12:05 AM

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When we take an observer perspective, we do not look at the world and think to ourselves “that’s just the way it is.” nWe instead ask, “why is it this way?" -- Elina St-Onge

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Robin Maynard · 12:05 AM

so, kelly what would you say is the focus tonight?
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Robin Maynard · 12:06 AM

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Its such a good point too, to take an observers approach is handy for so many things.

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Robin Maynard · 12:06 AM

but perhaps we may have an idea/
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Robin Maynard · 12:07 AM

wonderful!
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Robin Maynard · 12:07 AM

money is the root of all evil. seems to be so true.
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Robin Maynard · 12:07 AM

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It also helps for listening, which while sounds easy is not.

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Robin Maynard · 12:07 AM

hard to avoid corruption in that paradigm
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Robin Maynard · 12:08 AM

anyone else think we should abolish the money system?
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Robin Maynard · 12:08 AM

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Yes, while the book does point that out, and it does offer a way of thinking to get away from money, it does not offer a plan or transitions for getting money away from the picture.

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Robin Maynard · 12:08 AM

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so lets start with that.

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Robin Maynard · 12:09 AM

i really like that idea.
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Robin Maynard · 12:09 AM

there was even a sort of story about that on the BBC last night. but they were still mpnetizing everything.
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Robin Maynard · 12:09 AM

i supppose it could be started on a small scale to begin with
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Robin Maynard · 12:10 AM

like you're "commie shop" maybe
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Robin Maynard · 12:10 AM

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If we can have a place where people can go and donate time to the community, in all ways, getting the donation of personal time.

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Robin Maynard · 12:10 AM

where would such a thing be housed?
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Robin Maynard · 12:11 AM

a place that needs to be rented?
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Robin Maynard · 12:11 AM

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It would not be to hard to start one.

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Robin Maynard · 12:11 AM

i like it Kelly
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Robin Maynard · 12:11 AM

i have 3 or 4 hammers. = D
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Robin Maynard · 12:12 AM

check them out, like a library?
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Robin Maynard · 12:12 AM

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and make it house stuff, that most people use every once in a while, but can borrow these items instead of buying a new one for themselves.

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Robin Maynard · 12:12 AM

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for sure, keep it local as much as possible.

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Robin Maynard · 12:12 AM

i wonder if they'd go for that.
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Robin Maynard · 12:13 AM

its so... anti-capitalist
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Robin Maynard · 12:13 AM

training, yes
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Robin Maynard · 12:13 AM

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People around me prolly have 2-3 hammers each. Why not just have 5-10 hammers available for people, way less resources.

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Robin Maynard · 12:13 AM

for certain tools?
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Robin Maynard · 12:13 AM

sweet. good idea.
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Robin Maynard · 12:14 AM

maybe even a pamphlet they could take wit them
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Robin Maynard · 12:14 AM

nice, Kelly. they would be popular
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Robin Maynard · 12:14 AM

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I am trying to get people together to draw up a plan to propose it to the governement.

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Robin Maynard · 12:14 AM

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Yes,

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Robin Maynard · 12:14 AM

i saw they are working on 3-d printing an entire house in a very short time.
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Robin Maynard · 12:15 AM

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And some things need some training right?

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Robin Maynard · 12:15 AM

he's involved in that?
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Robin Maynard · 12:15 AM

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so you have a camera and the person can do a training video for the item.

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Robin Maynard · 12:15 AM

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Ya like air nailers and compresors.

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Robin Maynard · 12:15 AM

wow. i had no idea!
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Robin Maynard · 12:16 AM

very cool indeed
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Robin Maynard · 12:16 AM

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For the first one I am willing to donate my 3d printer and my computer.

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Robin Maynard · 12:16 AM

and he has some good community based ideas
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Robin Maynard · 12:17 AM

i presume there is no money system in his plans?
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Robin Maynard · 12:17 AM

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yep.

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Robin Maynard · 12:17 AM

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thanks jaque fresco :)

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Robin Maynard · 12:17 AM

"us" ?
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Robin Maynard · 12:17 AM

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he was really the inspiration behind the 3d printer.

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Robin Maynard · 12:17 AM

what transition?
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Robin Maynard · 12:18 AM

well, we certainly need that right about now.
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Robin Maynard · 12:18 AM

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oh for sure.

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Robin Maynard · 12:18 AM

barter?
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Robin Maynard · 12:19 AM

trading goods and services?
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Robin Maynard · 12:19 AM

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its the transition, to get towards something like what he is saying but, more made by us then just him.

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Robin Maynard · 12:19 AM

care to explain?
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Robin Maynard · 12:19 AM

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emergent, free, green, sustainable environment.

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Robin Maynard · 12:20 AM

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Money has to go, its falling right now so, we will find a new way.

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Robin Maynard · 12:21 AM

ugh. typing. = P
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Robin Maynard · 12:21 AM

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We are going to evolve beyond money, barter was before money.

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Robin Maynard · 12:21 AM

The earth does not exclude; it is simply there, available to all life. Restrictions were made up. A whole empire designed for the “richest” to exclusively hoard most of the earth’s resources is
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Robin Maynard · 12:22 AM

nothing more than an idea, a game of monopoly covering the underlying truth: Planet earth produces more than enough resources for all of its inhabitants to share equally. -- Elina St-Onge nnnothing more than an idea, a game of monopoly covering the
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Robin Maynard · 12:22 AM

or something.
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Robin Maynard · 12:22 AM

i'm having trouble appearing "normal"
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Robin Maynard · 12:22 AM

i do like "owning my house tho"
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Robin Maynard · 12:22 AM

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We have the technology to move to an abundant clean emergent society, we are held back by law and the money hierarchy.

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Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

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mind you, its all the people the give them that power, trying to survive working 40+ hours a week, while the ceo flay around chatting and making millions.

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Robin Maynard · 12:23 AM

normal is... not appearing an idiot. = D
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Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

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its like the book says, the ownership class making the rules.

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Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

well, i reckon that would be nice. what about all my "stuff" stho?
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Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

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The concept of ownership is what makes it possible for a few to monopolize land and resources while the majority becomensubject to their rules and conditions. -- Elina St-Onge

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Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

good idea, too
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Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

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LOL quote off :)

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Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

i think all my plants i put in the greenhouse froze last night.
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Robin Maynard · 12:24 AM

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LOL, what is normal?

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Robin Maynard · 12:25 AM

if not, then they surely will tonight. 29 degrees. eek
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Robin Maynard · 12:25 AM

but the chickens are doing good out there.
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Robin Maynard · 12:25 AM

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what if when you went somewhere, you were provided with a living place. no money just free.

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Robin Maynard · 12:26 AM

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And your food was all grown locally and is free.

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Robin Maynard · 12:26 AM

well, darn it. i wanted to plant them before leaving for this dubious adventure for 2 weeks
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Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

not much work.
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Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

is that work you like or work you don't like?
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Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

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its not like someone is just going to walk in the houe your staying at, or steal your paintings( ok well maybe right now) heheheh

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Robin Maynard · 12:27 AM

because there's a difference. work you like, you don't mind doing.
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Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

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ya its still early for the plants.

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Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

how many robot arms can one community use?
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Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

i've had a lot of pointless jobs.
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Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

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automation can free our time, what if we only had to work 8 hours a week for a wrold like that.

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Robin Maynard · 12:28 AM

i was moving words from one place to another.
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Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

or dirty sheets
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Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

Kelly Jelly!? i wonder if we're alone?
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Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

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there is a factory in japan that has robot arms that make robot arms, we can free up much labor with something like that.

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Robin Maynard · 12:29 AM

i have not seen such a thing
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Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

= D me either.
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Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

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Pointless jobs would be phased out.

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Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

its good to talk to you. = D
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Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

"with"
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Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

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most are moving matter.

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Robin Maynard · 12:30 AM

so, tawk to yer hearts content!
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Robin Maynard · 12:31 AM

oh gawd, ya, i can't wait fer that one.
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Robin Maynard · 12:31 AM

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ever see some of the automated forklift outlsets? some are HUGE and very fast and no people die, very safe, hardly ever a problem.

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Robin Maynard · 12:31 AM

that would probably mean the end of war, too
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Robin Maynard · 12:31 AM

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ehhh, I dun care.

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Robin Maynard · 12:31 AM

acting, and collecting money
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Robin Maynard · 12:32 AM

"money makes the world go around!"
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Robin Maynard · 12:32 AM

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lol

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Robin Maynard · 12:32 AM

i'm ready for it.
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Robin Maynard · 12:32 AM

yep. we are allowed very little
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Robin Maynard · 12:32 AM

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One useless job, politician, will be gone.

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Robin Maynard · 12:33 AM

yep. thaT IS really hard to swallow
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Robin Maynard · 12:33 AM

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I cannot think of what they are good for except acting.

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Robin Maynard · 12:33 AM

i want my taxes to go toward world hunger!
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Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

we could set them up with little self sustaining farms.
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Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

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umm, i think equality and no borders would end war.

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Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

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No money just might do it alone, it is all for ownership and profits nowdays.

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Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

well, i only have to pay property tax. but still.
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Robin Maynard · 12:34 AM

oh they sure are
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Robin Maynard · 12:35 AM

like militarizing the police
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Robin Maynard · 12:35 AM

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Just a 1/4 of US military spending could feed all the hungry in the world.

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Robin Maynard · 12:35 AM

the "dark side"
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Robin Maynard · 12:35 AM

outrageous
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Robin Maynard · 12:35 AM

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be like rice and stuff but is still food.

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Robin Maynard · 12:36 AM

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hehehe taxes.

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Robin Maynard · 12:36 AM

they didn't "earn" that.
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Robin Maynard · 12:36 AM

and by the way.... why do we have to "earn" our right to exist?
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Robin Maynard · 12:36 AM

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I can see how in some ways, taxes are used against the people paying them.

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Robin Maynard · 12:36 AM

well, thats not all they do.
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Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

not all the harm they do. = D
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Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

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They are used for roads and sewer and stuff like that but then there is the other side.

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Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

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the police the military, the courts, ALL the HUGE wages they have.

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Robin Maynard · 12:37 AM

yep. fer sure
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Robin Maynard · 12:38 AM

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and all the politicians watch the money, they can be replaced by a computer easily enough.

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Robin Maynard · 12:38 AM

i suppose so. i like to think the requirement for "work" would be very liberal and tailored to the individual's abilities.
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Robin Maynard · 12:39 AM

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I think the correct way to say that is, why do some have to do nothing to exist easily and most others have to work very hard for very little?

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Robin Maynard · 12:39 AM

i can swing a hammer, but the result may not be an award winning product.
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Robin Maynard · 12:40 AM

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cuz we all DO have to work at existing in some way or another. hunter gather was the first job :).

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Robin Maynard · 12:40 AM

probably true.
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Robin Maynard · 12:40 AM

i would hope they could be liberated by the "overthrow" of the existing paradigm.
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Robin Maynard · 12:41 AM

The mainstream media glamorizes a life of financial abundance and material luxury
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Robin Maynard · 12:41 AM

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I just think with all the shelved ideas and tech, we could solve the problems so fast right there.

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Robin Maynard · 12:42 AM

i think we would ALL love that potential... to grow and expand into whatever interests us.
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Robin Maynard · 12:42 AM

yes. those rats. = D
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Robin Maynard · 12:43 AM

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And you said about an individuals abilities, YES. We should let people develop into whatever they want, not this required learning education.

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Robin Maynard · 12:43 AM

We made up our society from scratch. We are way more powerful than we think. We could shift it all around overnight if we understood the power we have to do so. -- Franco DeNicolanWe made up our society from scratch. We are way more powerful than we
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Robin Maynard · 12:44 AM

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For sure it does, keeps us believing, its just the way it is.

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Robin Maynard · 12:44 AM

now, why the heck does it do that?
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Robin Maynard · 12:44 AM

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Protecting the status quo,

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Robin Maynard · 12:44 AM

we must take the system down! = D hahaha
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Robin Maynard · 12:45 AM

toss it in the trash
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Robin Maynard · 12:46 AM

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Most people do sign it all away, and if things not to bad for them, like middle class, they don't even wanna hear the end of money.

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Robin Maynard · 12:46 AM

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LOL don't know hehehhe

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Robin Maynard · 12:46 AM

stop supporting it by "consuming" mindlessly those things that are superfluous
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Robin Maynard · 12:46 AM

i really like that quote
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Robin Maynard · 12:47 AM

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Those people just have not seen, or are not willing to accept the fact money is killing people by the thousands every day.

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Robin Maynard · 12:47 AM

just take off on your own idea, like they don't exist anymore.
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Robin Maynard · 12:47 AM

yes, indeed.
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Robin Maynard · 12:47 AM

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how can we take down what we have built up?

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Robin Maynard · 12:47 AM

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we just have to stop building it.

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Robin Maynard · 12:47 AM

like the 'project' we started working on?
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Robin Maynard · 12:48 AM

ever get any more people interested in working on it?
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Robin Maynard · 12:48 AM

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You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existingnmodel obsolete. -- Buckminster Fuller

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Robin Maynard · 12:48 AM

oh. well, i still have lots of time.
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Robin Maynard · 12:48 AM

ok. he's working too, eh?
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Robin Maynard · 12:49 AM

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That's why it would be nice to get a new model made up.

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Robin Maynard · 12:49 AM

ok.
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Robin Maynard · 12:49 AM

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gotta think beyond our situation.

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Robin Maynard · 12:49 AM

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yep

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Robin Maynard · 12:49 AM

and?
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Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

you guys come up with anything?
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Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

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I just needed a little break and i am back to work again so now I will not have the same amount of time to put forth.

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Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

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dillon

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Robin Maynard · 12:50 AM

hmmm. care to spill it for me? i want to continue with it.
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Robin Maynard · 12:51 AM

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But hes where I got the idea brewed up from.

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Robin Maynard · 12:51 AM

well, i think it would be good to get it down so people can see the direction you are thinking and then comment on that.
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Robin Maynard · 12:51 AM

yes, i do
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Robin Maynard · 12:51 AM

its great
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Robin Maynard · 12:51 AM

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I was talking to him about it some on friday.

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Robin Maynard · 12:52 AM

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I have went pretty far with it now in my own head LOL.

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Robin Maynard · 12:52 AM

yeah. can you "direct me" with something to go on? i'm ready. i suppose you mite see this as "forcing it".
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Robin Maynard · 12:52 AM

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I just need other peoples voices heard too.

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Robin Maynard · 12:52 AM

well, that leaves me out. to far to go.
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Robin Maynard · 12:53 AM

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well, how did you like the idea of the local shop?

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Robin Maynard · 12:53 AM

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that's part of it.

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Robin Maynard · 12:54 AM

ok.
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Robin Maynard · 12:54 AM

that would be me, for one, i suppose. since i can't hop, skip and jump up there.
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Robin Maynard · 12:54 AM

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I would like to see people go there to learn and to talk about ideas and work on them.4

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Robin Maynard · 12:55 AM

that will take time
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Robin Maynard · 12:55 AM

to get many others involved
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Robin Maynard · 12:55 AM

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But having a few computers at each, we can still be connected to people not in the local community, to share ideas worldwide, no patent laws.

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Robin Maynard · 12:56 AM

and, btw, we ARE alone here. = P
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Robin Maynard · 12:56 AM

i really like it.
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Robin Maynard · 12:57 AM

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Hopefully, one would be in every community :).

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Robin Maynard · 12:57 AM

good practice for me, anyway. i feel more relaxed. it is easier because, also, it is you i'm talking with.
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Robin Maynard · 12:57 AM

great idea! i'd love to see soem designs.
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Robin Maynard · 12:57 AM

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non profit, everything organized and everyone can see and vote.

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Robin Maynard · 12:58 AM

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lol

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Robin Maynard · 12:58 AM

what do you think about.... cob houses or buildings?
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Robin Maynard · 12:58 AM

does not have to be architecturally perfect, ya know.
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Robin Maynard · 12:59 AM

why?
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Robin Maynard · 12:59 AM

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I can ever design some places and put it online for free, record people building them.

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Robin Maynard · 12:59 AM

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Like the greenhouse, and the stawbail we want to do.

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Robin Maynard · 12:59 AM

freezing no good for it?
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Robin Maynard · 12:59 AM

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LOL

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Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

ok. just sounded cheaper
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Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

probably cooler, too... straw bail
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Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

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It will take some time to draw. it won't be to bad though.

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Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

oh. ok.
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Robin Maynard · 1:00 AM

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Cob is good if your in a warmer climate.

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Robin Maynard · 1:01 AM

hey dude, i saw you have attended several tawks i never even heard about, is it possible to include me in some? they sounded quite interesting.
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Robin Maynard · 1:01 AM

pole shed?
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Robin Maynard · 1:01 AM

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cob is thermal mass, if it gets cold, it will take a while to warm it. straw bail, is it own insulation.

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Robin Maynard · 1:02 AM

"banks" "insurance"... WILL THEY STILL BE THINGS?
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Robin Maynard · 1:02 AM

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umm the work, its take A LOt of work with cob.

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Robin Maynard · 1:02 AM

interesting.
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Robin Maynard · 1:02 AM

ok
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Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

well, we made it to an hour
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Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

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straw bail is alot of work too but, not as much as cob and still really cheap.

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Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!
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Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

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with pole shed design, banks will insure them as well.

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Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

i have a lot of driving ahead of me.
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Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

heading to frenchtown
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Robin Maynard · 1:03 AM

yes
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Robin Maynard · 1:04 AM

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ya a roof supported by beam, no walls on it.

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Robin Maynard · 1:04 AM

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then you use straw bails for the walls.

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Robin Maynard · 1:04 AM

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OHh hell no.

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Robin Maynard · 1:04 AM

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This is just now thinking :)

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Robin Maynard · 1:04 AM

i hope i can stay awake.
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Robin Maynard · 1:04 AM

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transition.

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Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

you did, eh? what does "party" mean?
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Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

yes, i will be online there.
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Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

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yep, I am getting hungry.

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Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

oh my! hahah. sounds like fun!
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Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

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np

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Robin Maynard · 1:05 AM

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today?

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Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

holy cow!
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Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

sweet! great time!
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Robin Maynard · 1:06 AM

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ok. well. your still online there at least, maybe I'll be on tomorrow, LOL hope so, kind of partied to hard on friday, stil drained today LOL.\

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Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

well, i really should take off. so it won't be totally dark when i get there.
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Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

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People, booze drugs rock and roll :)

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Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

thanks again, Kelly for helping out/carrying the tawk.
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Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

be well, yer self. have a good night.
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Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

byeeeeeeeeeeeeee = D
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Robin Maynard · 1:07 AM

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it was, it was so fun, I did not get to sleep until 6 am LOL.

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Robin Maynard · 1:08 AM

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had a fire going out back all night.

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Robin Maynard · 1:09 AM

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yep ok have a safe drive.

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Robin Maynard · 1:09 AM

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np later robin.