Jordan Birnbaum

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Important Stuff That's Too Confusing

Nov 21, 2013·58 visitors

Jennifer Finnell

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Stage· 246 messages

Nov 21, 2013

SEO. Net Neutrality. Open Internet. This stuff is hugely important, and most of us (including me) don't really understand what it all means. So our own Jennifer Finnell is stepping in and helping out, as she explains how the Internet can be used for good, and how the bad guys are trying to ruin it.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:00 AM

Ms. Finnell, I presume?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:00 AM

Well, hello!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:00 AM

Welcome back to the Tawkers stage!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:00 AM

Such a pleasure to be here with you

Jennifer Finnell · 2:00 AM

Happy to be here, Jordan!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:01 AM

I think we should start with a quick shout out to Rachel McDonnell who is the source of our friendship

Jennifer Finnell · 2:01 AM

Hello, everyone! Thanks for joining us tonight1

Jennifer Finnell · 2:01 AM

Absolutely! Hey, Rae Rae!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:01 AM

and was wise enough to invite you into this universe

Jennifer Finnell · 2:02 AM

All part of the bigger picture. :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:02 AM

OK - so you and I got to speaking about a number of topics

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:02 AM

and as I mentioned in the description, things like SEO and net neutrality kept emerging

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle

“So what's the topic? I'm confused...”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:02 AM

Yes...always so much that seems to need discussing.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:03 AM

Yeah - I realize the title might be a bit too cryptic.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:03 AM

Yes. Important topics that confuse the heck out of the majority of us, but SEO impacts a whole lot of things in our lives that we probably don't even realize.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:03 AM

But I would say that the theme behind everything we're going to discuss is "fighting for the little guy"

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:04 AM

fair to say?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:04 AM

That's right. Leveling the playing field between Average Jane/Joe and corporate America, for starters...

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:04 AM

more specifically, fighting for the little guy specifically on the Internet, and beyond…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:05 AM

drat - I used specifically twice in one sentence.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:05 AM

OK -so why don't we start with a quick definition of SEO

Jennifer Finnell · 2:05 AM

lol. You're forgiven.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:05 AM

this is a forgiving crowd…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:05 AM

thank god

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“the little guy could use some help... ok ALOT of help.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle

“Not forgiven says the editor”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:06 AM

(I know which Jen I want to work for…)

Jennifer Finnell · 2:06 AM

Sure. SEO stands for Search Engine Optimization and, though it takes on many forms, it's basically the means by which the search engines sift through all the information available.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle

“I wouldn't be so sure, Jordan!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:06 AM

lol

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:06 AM

ill reconside

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:06 AM

recinsder

Jennifer Finnell · 2:07 AM

It's how they find your content, website, etc. and connect you with the people who are out there looking for you.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:07 AM

reconsider - dam this is a nightmare!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:07 AM

OK -so the search engines sift through everything on the Internet to try to match your requests, right?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:07 AM

Basically, yes.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:08 AM

but they look at a lot of different things to determine relevancy in the search results.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:08 AM

And does anyone know how much of Internet surfing is driven by the search engines? I would imagine it's a huge percentage…

Jennifer Finnell · 2:08 AM

The answer to that is unquantifiable. Huge, yes.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:09 AM

So, search engines have become literally one of the most powerful forces in the world.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:10 AM

They influence practically everything we do. Where we shop, what recipe we cook for dinner, the way we view certain people, whether that perception is accurate or not.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:10 AM

quick side note -anyone remember the early search engines like Lycos, Excite, Alta Vista…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:11 AM

they sure didn't optimize…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:11 AM

Metacrawler!

Jennifer Finnell · 2:11 AM

Think about this...how many times do you go to Google something, and a list of "suggestions" pops up before you're even finished typing in your request?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:11 AM

Lol. I remember learning to program C language in high school. I don't care what you think of Bill Gates personally, but thank God for windows!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:12 AM

wow you trumped you! OK, but back on point:

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“Considered from that angle, search engines are now disconcerting.”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:13 AM

I agree Rebecca. We have to be careful to monitor the influence all our modern sources of media have on the decisions we make.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:13 AM

Frighteningly close, Sean. Human-machine interfaces already exist to an extent. There's quite a bit of research and experimentation in the prosthetics fields along those lines.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:13 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“Even at the farmer's market, I ask if the folks have websites and Facebook pages. No kidding. The guys who won't touch computers don't do as well, including the divide between the Square swipers and the cash-only booths. Internet presence is relevant”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:13 AM

It's true. So what do we know about the process of how search works?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:14 AM

And that's what this Tawk is really about, Rebecca.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:14 AM

The flip side is that if you remain disconnected, you don't have the tools to compete in business.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“Critical thinking skills are imperative. We need to be able to sift through all the stuff and get to the truth.”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:14 AM

And that's where good SEO comes in, especially for the "little guy."

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:15 AM

So explain what SEO does, and then how that translates to leveling the playing field.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:15 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“we need to teach logical thinking and get rid of the emotional warfare they currently use to lure consumers in”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:16 AM

Well, the search engines take your request and evaluate all the stuff out there in the great, wide, web to determine which items are the most relevant.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:16 AM

and it has to apply some sort of judgment to do that

Jennifer Finnell · 2:16 AM

They look for keywords, but also interconnectedness with other, related websites, etc.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:17 AM

Current traffic levels are a factor, which creates a bit of a catch-22 in the beginning, as you need traffic to get traffic, but there are ways to get the ball rolling on that.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:17 AM

just a quick sidestep:

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:17 AM

Rachel, I think the emotional warfare is part of the new NeuroMarketing movement, that really motivates people to commit based on fear and anxiety just as much as pleasure.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:18 AM

now that's the subject for a new Tawk!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:18 AM

sorry - back on point

Jennifer Finnell · 2:18 AM

Yeah...very insightful, Sean!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:18 AM

★ Spotlighted from Tim Hiller

“Like it or not, but technology, especially search engines are reprogramming our minds and changing the "human condition" on a fundamental scale. We no longer have to remember what we learn... we only need to remember where we found the information...”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:18 AM

wow good point

Jennifer Finnell · 2:19 AM

Well, if this all sounds confusing, that's because it is. It's no wonder that the average business person has difficulty figuring out how to get to page one and, let's face it, no one really looks past page one. We are a society addicted to instant

Jennifer Finnell · 2:19 AM

gratification, after all.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:19 AM

Good point, Tim

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:20 AM

So I have to imagine that big business and financial interests have made it so that the big players get all the advantages from search results. True?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:20 AM

You got it.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:20 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“Yeah @ Jennifer, I never look past page 1”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:20 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle

“No one does Julie...that is the benefit of using the search engines to your advantage. SEO”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:21 AM

On the other hand, the freedom allowed by all this technology can give small businesses a big advantage if they know how to use it to their advantage.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:21 AM

Search engines have become something akin to the political battleground. Those with the money get the exposure, ensuring they get more money.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:21 AM

but ultimately, it's a tough nut to crack. but SEO is like a nutcracker?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:22 AM

Okay, so it's true that whoever spends the most gets to the top. BUT, when you play your cards right, there are ways to be the very next in line - or the first organic search result in your niche.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:22 AM

Nutcracker, yes. lol.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:23 AM

Google likes to play games. They like to change everything up just when you think you're starting to understand how it works and then you're back at square one.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:23 AM

So we understand what SEO is trying to do, which is to improve a person or organization's positioning within search engine results. How do you do it?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:23 AM

They like to keep things mysterious so that they can charge people for rankings. Not cool.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:24 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“google is not the most ethical company in the world... :p”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:24 AM

We outsmart them, of course!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:24 AM

you know, when they were first getting started, they made a pledge: Don't Be Evil.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:24 AM

I think that might have gotten tosses at the IPO, though…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:24 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rich Hagberg

“enter greed”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“money corrupts... it is sad though I used to love and admire google and it's organization's mission”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

That's generally the first thing abandoned with an IPO, Jordan =/

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

two interesting perspectives:

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from Tim Hiller

“I think Google changes frequently to protect their status as the premiere search engine... if they don't, someone else will come along and overshadow the Giant that is Google...”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

Maybe it's not greed, but organic evolution, survival. Like an organism.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:25 AM

Every client is different, so every approach we develop is customized. But, in a "nutshell", we create organic search result rankings via targeted and keyword optimized content creation and distribution.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:26 AM

so you actually create content specifically designed to be "attractive" to the search engine's judgment?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:26 AM

I just use Google as the example. The issues are basically the same across the board. It's just that Google sets the standard.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rich Hagberg

“so a greedy defensive organism? LOL”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:27 AM

Yes we do. But that wouldn't do much good if it weren't also useful to the human reader. We write for both.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:27 AM

I see. So that requires a deft touch.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:27 AM

Let me give you an example.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:28 AM

Say you want to sell, oh, I don't know, unicycles...

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:28 AM

in this economy?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:28 AM

Now, you're not the only unicycle shop in town, of course.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:29 AM

Well, yes...they're quite fuel efficient. :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:29 AM

someone else is selling unicycles?!

Jennifer Finnell · 2:29 AM

Now, I, as the consumer, am not going to look at the newspaper ads for unicycles. I am not going to drive around town looking for a unicycle shop. I am going to Google unicycles.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:30 AM

exactly

Jennifer Finnell · 2:31 AM

Granted there's not bound to be a lot of competition in this example, but unless my unicycle shop comes up on the first page - preferable at the top - not only am I not going to find your unicycle shop, but I'm going to find your COMPETITOR instead!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:31 AM

yes. that's a business killer right there.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:31 AM

Sorry - my unicycle shop, not yours. Who wants a unicycle shop anyway. lol

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:32 AM

That's why in the phone book days you would name your store AAAA Unicycles

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:32 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“So true Jordan. Front of the alphabet gets the attention.”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:32 AM

Now, how do I get to page one? Lots of ways, which all involve outsmarting Google unless I just want to funnel all of my profits into a non-descript advertising campaign through Google directly.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:33 AM

YES!!! That's exactly right, Jordan!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:33 AM

In other words, be a giant corporation that can afford it.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle

“Rich, did you hear that? No matter what your company name "AAA" ;or Zeke's unicycles...with SEO you can be the first in the "phone book."”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:33 AM

this Tawk is a real boon for the unicycle industry

Jennifer Finnell · 2:34 AM

Yep. Good news though. Organically driven results are not only attainable on a reasonable budget when done correctly, but they also last.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:34 AM

An ad campaign stops the minute you stop paying for it. Organic SEO results remain long after the campaign has stopped, and, better yet, are super easy to maintain once the goal ranking has been achieved with a little maintenance.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:35 AM

And THIS is how the little unicycle shop can compete with Unicycle*Mart and stay in business.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rich Hagberg

“SEO is cool!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“It is similar to the main street stores competing with Walmart”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:36 AM

I think that the average consumer genuinely wants to support small and local businesses - they just don't have the time to go out in search of their products/services.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:36 AM

All right! Excellent job explaining SEO! So are there a lot of companies rushing into this business?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:37 AM

Well, a lot of companies are hesitant, and understandably so.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:37 AM

One reason is that they've been sold something before that they spent way too much money on and never understood just what they were getting, which, in many cases, wasn't much.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:38 AM

★ Spotlighted from Tim Hiller

“So how does Net Neutrality fit into this Tawk about SEO?”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:38 AM

The other main reason is that, for the most part, this is sort of an "imaginary" product - until the results start to show,, that is.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:38 AM

Net Neutrality is ther next topic. The parallel is that they are both about protecting the little guy from being shut out on the Internet.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:38 AM

So how is Team Wildflower blazing a path in this emerging market?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:39 AM

★ Spotlighted from Tim Hiller

“That makes sense.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:39 AM

thanks!

Jennifer Finnell · 2:39 AM

Net Neutrality means the search engines can't discriminate or - even better - play favorites. So, even though they would rather reserve the whole first page for the big boys, they can't. That's how we can still get in.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:39 AM

Ahh...the shameless self-promotion part - my fave! :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:40 AM

OK - quick step back to Team Wildflower, a company I LOVE!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:40 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“How do you get the little guy to trust you?”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:40 AM

Thank you very much! TWF is different in a lot of ways, the most important of which, I believe, is that we're real people with real dedication to helping small businesses succeed.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:41 AM

WEll I can attest too your authenticity on that front!

Jennifer Finnell · 2:41 AM

I can't help but spew a lot of mumbo jumbo in the explanation of what we're going to do for a business when we devise a custom plan, and that's just because it's a lot of techno-speak, but I do make sure that my clients have the best possible underst

Jennifer Finnell · 2:42 AM

anding of just what we're going to do and what they can expect before moving forward.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:42 AM

Yes, Julie - great question. By talking to them. By listening to their concerns, their challenges. By exercising some good old-fashioned customer service!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:43 AM

Would you take on Exxon Mobil as a client?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“Evil @ Jordan :-)”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“I would take them on and sabotage their site”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:44 AM

I'm just being playful!

Jennifer Finnell · 2:44 AM

I certainly wouldn't turn down a huge account like that - we are a small business, too, afterall. But I can't say they would get the same personal attention that we give to our one-on-one clients - they become part of the Wildflower family.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:44 AM

As discriminatory as that sounds, it's the truth. :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:44 AM

I don't they need SEO anyway…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:44 AM

they can afford to buy their placement

Jennifer Finnell · 2:45 AM

Yes, Julie. Arbuckle likes to explain it as we are the people in black, backstage. The landscape changes on the stage, though you never saw them do it. :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:45 AM

OK - so are we ready to shift to Open Internet?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:45 AM

We're the Roadies!

Jennifer Finnell · 2:45 AM

You betcha.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:46 AM

OK - so Open Internet and Net Neutrality mean the same thing, right?

Jennifer Finnell · 2:46 AM

As far as my understanding goes, they basically refer to the same principal, though each term is used a little differently depending upon whether the person using it is a fan or not. lol

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:47 AM

Now I was under the same impression as Tim:

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:47 AM

★ Spotlighted from Tim Hiller

“I thought the whole Net Neutrality thing was about the internet providers pulling shady stuff... not search engines.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:47 AM

As I understand it, this is controlled by the ISPs themselves -the people who actually provide the Internet access

Jennifer Finnell · 2:48 AM

I could have it mixed up. That sounds right. I just know how to jump through the necessary hoops is all. :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:48 AM

OK - so as I understand it:

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:48 AM

I don't believe SOPA or similar political movements will ever truly go away. The current freedom of the internet is a far too appetizing target for politicians to clamp down on.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:49 AM

SOPA was a bill that was intended to allow ISPs to give fast Internet access to their customers when they visited certain sites, and crap access when they visited other ones

Jennifer Finnell · 2:49 AM

See? It's confusing! That's why I keep guys like Tim on board to help me keep it straight! ;)

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:50 AM

So imagine if Walmart could pay AT&T, then Walmart's site would have perfect service.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:50 AM

But our unicycle shop, which couldn't pay, would take forever to load.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from Tim Hiller

“The internet providers are the gateway to the internet, after that, the internet is pretty much a free for all...”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:50 AM

But SOPA was also intended to stop piracy, which is another important issue.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:51 AM

I think the argument was that was a front for the true intentions

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:51 AM

SOPA had a lot more attached under that particular hood, Jordan. That was the "public" face of the bill, but underneath it had provisions to allow government officials the authority to shut down service or sites at whim, based on hidden criteria that

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:52 AM

exactly. So if they decided they didn't people to watch "Moment Of Clarity," they could make it so the site never loaded for anyone.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:52 AM

It's like the digital-age version of Farhenheit 411.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:52 AM

exactly right.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“All in the name of keeping the nation safe, I am sure.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:53 AM

so where SEO is an alternative to corporate interests owning search engine placement, Net Neutrality is an alternative to corporate domination through Internet access.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:53 AM

"Protecting" us from our own freedom, Julie?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“Moment of Clarity shout out! NICE!”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:54 AM

Well put, Jordan.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:54 AM

so I think that's where these two movements really come together well.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:54 AM

I was, and continue to be, inspired by the amount of mobilization this issue has created on the Internet

Jennifer Finnell · 2:55 AM

Yes, they do. It's how the little guys sneak through the cracks to emerge on top.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“I have hope. I am seeing the little guy standing up and shouting "we are not going to take this anymore"”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:56 AM

Well, I think on the Open Internet front, we have to be constantly vigilant. Because I keep reading about new challenges emerging in the courts

Jennifer Finnell · 2:56 AM

And as long as that continues to be possible, we will keep making it happen. The day it becomes impossible, I'm afraid we're all doomed. lol

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:56 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“If SOPA passed AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner and Verizon would simply divide up the whole country”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:57 AM

I think you're right, Jordan. It's when the people stop paying attention that this stuff gets pushed on us.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:57 AM

so a sense of hope seems to be emerging from the forum…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:57 AM

It's starting to happen all over the world, Julie. It's an interesting time to be around, that's for sure!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rich Hagberg

“the harder you clench your fists to control, the more will slip out of your grasp....”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“Thank God @ Matt. The world needs to change.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“sings *we're not gonna take it... NO! we ain't gonna take it... we're not gonna take it anymore...*”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rich Hagberg

“Yes it does Julie, shift will happen. It is Inevitable.”

Jennifer Finnell · 2:57 AM

The vigilantes!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:58 AM

well, I think this is a case in point.

Jennifer Finnell · 2:58 AM

You know...we could put out a pretty extensive SEO campaign to make sure the population is aware of this fight...

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“that's the thing people need to settle in for the long haul we will be fighting for internet freedom probably for decades at least.. people need to get used to fighting back”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:58 AM

Wow -that's very interesting. So I always thought of SEO as for a person or company, not an idea!

Jennifer Finnell · 2:59 AM

Right Rachel. Complacency is the worst thing...

Jennifer Finnell · 2:59 AM

Nope...we can use it to distribute information in any way, shape or form!

Jennifer Finnell · 2:59 AM

I can hear you thinking now...it's loud. lol

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:59 AM

I know -it's VERY loud!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“ooh I like that idea of an ethical SEO campaign! :D”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“People get fired up about the Internet, since they're on it all day. Mess with peoples' Internet and I think you'll see some pitchforks coming out”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“Got us all riled up”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:00 AM

SEO for Integrity!

Jennifer Finnell · 3:00 AM

Now think about this...if we want our ideas to change the world, and now we know how to get those ideas out there to the masses...

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:00 AM

We should always fight for freedom, considering how much our lives our integrated into the functions of the internet. This will be especially important when our implanted brain sensor/stimulator devices will make us even more vulnerable.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:00 AM

dude -I don't want a brain sensor…

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:01 AM

are they going to force it on me?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“@Sean. I am not quite sure I am ready for that!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:01 AM

Jordan, don't you use a smartphone?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:01 AM

touche

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rich Hagberg

“what are those glasses called?”

Jennifer Finnell · 3:02 AM

you guys crack me up!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:02 AM

So Jennifer - in your first Tawk, you spoke a lot about positive leadership in business. Maybe we should go out with a word on social entrepreneurship?

Jennifer Finnell · 3:02 AM

Ideas...to the masses...changing the world!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:03 AM

It does seem like the Millenials are more inclined to build things that help society rather than make money…

Jennifer Finnell · 3:04 AM

Absolutely! I have always envisioned a different kind of workplace. And in this day and age, social engagement is just as important to building a business as it is to maintaining a loyal workforce. I have the best employees/contractors in the

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:04 AM

I just hear about these types of projects more and more

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:04 AM

social entrepreneurship I mean. companies based on meaning over profit.

Jennifer Finnell · 3:04 AM

world. I would not be connected with many of them if it weren't for social media, as our network extends all across the country and even into Europe.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:05 AM

Omigosh, the relationships I've made right here on Tawkers have had a HUGE impact on me!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rich Hagberg

“Same here Jordan...”

Jennifer Finnell · 3:05 AM

In addition, social media is how I keep connected with my current client base as well as how I have been introduced to new clients, how I connect clients to one another when they have common goals...it's a great time to be an entrepreneur, that's for

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:05 AM

Jennifer Finnell · 3:05 AM

sure!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachel McDonnell

“we are a tight knit family here at Tawkers :)”

Jennifer Finnell · 3:06 AM

My motivation is helping. I just happened to be fortunate enough to make a career out of that. :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:06 AM

well, I think we touched on some very interesting topics, and I think the BIG idea to emerge from this Tawk was SEO campaign for ideas. Let's all marinate on that, and then come back and have a big group brainstorming session?

Jennifer Finnell · 3:07 AM

It's got me thinking, too, Jordan. Yes, let's do that!!!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:08 AM

Well I had a blast! I hope you did too, Jen!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:08 AM

Saw some great comments from some new faces which makes me very excited

Jennifer Finnell · 3:08 AM

Absolutely! I love these Tawks - something awesome always results! Thanks for your input, everybody!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:08 AM

AND all my old faves were here too.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:09 AM

@Jordan: I truly think there is a larger scale of effort necessary that we need to see on an organizational plane.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:09 AM

We'll definitely address this in the next one!!!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:09 AM

Thanks for the invite to this Tawk, Jennifer. Cool group.

Jennifer Finnell · 3:09 AM

And thank you for your time tonight, Jordan. Always a pleasure!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:09 AM

Sean - come do a Tawk!

Jennifer Finnell · 3:09 AM

I'm workin' on him, Jordan! :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:09 AM

All right everyone - thanks Jennifer! You're a great person.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:10 AM

I adore you and your entire team, and am thankful to know you!

Jennifer Finnell · 3:10 AM

Awww...right back atcha! Night, all! :)

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:10 AM

And as always, thanks to all of you for reminding me I'm not alone!

Jennifer Finnell · 3:11 AM

Never alone...we weirdos always manage to find one another! lol!

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Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 1:47 AM

I see a few of us made it early :-)

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 1:57 AM

Hey, Rich. Howzit?

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 1:58 AM

Hi Rebecca! It's good! How about you?

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:00 AM

Alright. Wednesdays have a silver lining. :)

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:01 AM

Hey Rich..

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:01 AM

:) Sending you a reply on FB

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:01 AM

Hi Jennifer!

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:02 AM

haha thanks... you are two of the smartest people I know, so you needed to meet anyway. :)

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:02 AM★ Spotlighted

So what's the topic? I'm confused...

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:03 AM

were's Jordan and Jenn?

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:03 AM

LOL I had to refresh my screen... HAHAHAHA

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:03 AM

That's catchy.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:04 AM

Oh! I thought that was your suggested title! Hahaha!

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:05 AM★ Spotlighted

the little guy could use some help... ok ALOT of help.

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:05 AM★ Spotlighted

Not forgiven says the editor

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:06 AM

LOL!

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:06 AM★ Spotlighted

I wouldn't be so sure, Jordan!

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:06 AM

Dissension in the ranks..

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:07 AM

OH, you're fired

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:07 AM

haha... Jordan! lol

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:07 AM

That was me the other night Jordan...

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:08 AM

sifts through all the data... that's a lot

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:08 AM

the process of affecting website or webpage visibility

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:09 AM

lolo

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:09 AM

Data driven world....

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:09 AM

lol

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:09 AM

There's that word! I love that word!

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:10 AM★ Spotlighted

Considered from that angle, search engines are now disconcerting.

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:11 AM

Is it not true that these days, if a company or anyone wanting to make a mark doesn't have a presence on the web, they are likely to fail? or at least have great difficulty?

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:11 AM

How about Archie and Veronica? The Gopher search engines???

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:12 AM

i just remember my website being hosted at geocities! lol

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:12 AM★ Spotlighted

Even at the farmer's market, I ask if the folks have websites and Facebook pages. No kidding. The guys who won't touch computers don't do as well, including the divide between the Square swipers and the cash-only booths. Internet presence is relevant

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:14 AM★ Spotlighted

Critical thinking skills are imperative. We need to be able to sift through all the stuff and get to the truth.

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:15 AM★ Spotlighted

we need to teach logical thinking and get rid of the emotional warfare they currently use to lure consumers in

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:15 AM

That's so true, Matt. It's frightening and super cool at the same time, for a Special Ed teacher who is also paranoid as hell. I love what the prosthetics are able to do, what communication devices can do, but it makes me squeamy, too...

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:17 AM

Most small business owners do not know how to properly market their products or services on the web. They pay a lot of money on services that promise to give them more screen time but they do not work.

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:17 AM

Sean that is very disconcerning, what is worse is that people don't notice this is happening :/ it's a societal failure and one we will not look back on with pride :/

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:18 AM★ Spotlighted

Like it or not, but technology, especially search engines are reprogramming our minds and changing the "human condition" on a fundamental scale. We no longer have to remember what we learn... we only need to remember where we found the information...

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:18 AM

True statement Tim...

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:18 AM

Julie, I think you are right! If you have any tips, let me know - I always try to help my friends who have small businesses and are struggling to keep up. Honestly, I don't know how to help them with web stuff.

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:18 AM

Fear or love based decisions and responses... hmmmm

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:19 AM

In a very true sense, we are becoming more like work stations accessing a server and less like stand alone entities...

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:19 AM

they don't have to though or at least we should have some ethical boundaries let's be honest it's like a science experiment and should be treated as such, but I am so off topic anyway.. lol

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:19 AM

Yes @ Matt. That is so true. Team Wildflower's method is very effective.

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:19 AM

good point Tim

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:20 AM★ Spotlighted

Yeah @ Jennifer, I never look past page 1

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:20 AM★ Spotlighted

No one does Julie...that is the benefit of using the search engines to your advantage. SEO

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:21 AM

I do if I don't like what I see

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:21 AM

But the majority won't

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:21 AM

@Sean that is a very positive view! :)

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:21 AM

The largest advertising and marketing platform the world has ever known is at our fingertips...the web and search engines

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:22 AM

Don't you ever get adventurous and throw on a fedora and venture to page 2 or 3 or even further? You never know what gems one might find in the bowels of the internet...

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:22 AM

I am weird I purposely go to page 3 right away sometimes lol

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:22 AM

bowels...lol

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:23 AM

@ J.A - heh heh you said bowels

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:23 AM★ Spotlighted

google is not the most ethical company in the world... :p

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:24 AM

@ Rachel LOL

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:24 AM

SEO is somewhat like the air in your tires. the tires are fine without it but you won't get far without more wear and tear than is needed. Put air in to maximize their performance. Right?

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:24 AM

Yeah, when did they change their motto from "Don't be evil?" to "Let's Embody Evil?"

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:24 AM

@Jennifer Power to the People!

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:24 AM★ Spotlighted

I think Google changes frequently to protect their status as the premiere search engine... if they don't, someone else will come along and overshadow the Giant that is Google...

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:24 AM★ Spotlighted

enter greed

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:25 AM★ Spotlighted

money corrupts... it is sad though I used to love and admire google and it's organization's mission

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:25 AM

corporate consumption...

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:26 AM

the illusion of power over one's environment or other beings corrupts

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:26 AM

I've just read some questionable things about them regarding data sharing and such...

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:26 AM

I hope organic evolution doesn't desensitize us to kindness, Dr Orr.

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:27 AM★ Spotlighted

so a greedy defensive organism? LOL

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:27 AM

I know Jenn don't mind my rambles. :p

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:27 AM

Feeding the crawlers...that's SEO

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:28 AM

A Corporations first and foremost responsibility is to make money for their shareholders... Even if that means they need to break a few laws doing so.

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:28 AM

it all comes back to balance some how...

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:29 AM

I see what you're saying, Sean. Thinking about our limits as humans for managing meaningful relationships once population reaches about 150 (+, -), maybe Google just got too big. It's evolving, but as only organisms or civilizations that have outgrow

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:29 AM

outgrown themselves do: ponderously and focused solely on survival without an integration of all parts.

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:31 AM

@ Sean, very true. And most companies and individuals will go there... instead of looking beyond that, which we, have the ability to choose.

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:32 AM

but how does the unicycle shop get to the top of the search?

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:32 AM

Life has instinct... but we also have another...choice

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:32 AM★ Spotlighted

So true Jordan. Front of the alphabet gets the attention.

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:33 AM

Thanks Sean, I am writing that down.

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:33 AM★ Spotlighted

Rich, did you hear that? No matter what your company name "AAA" ;or Zeke's unicycles...with SEO you can be the first in the "phone book."

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:34 AM

XYZ company vs ABC company

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:34 AM

No longer matter, thanks to search engines and today's technology...

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:36 AM★ Spotlighted

SEO is cool!

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:36 AM★ Spotlighted

It is similar to the main street stores competing with Walmart

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:37 AM

I agree @ Jennifer.

Max von SydowNov 21, 2013, 2:37 AM

There is only one SEO company we need to know about, Jordan. <_<

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:37 AM★ Spotlighted

So how does Net Neutrality fit into this Tawk about SEO?

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:38 AM★ Spotlighted

How do you get the little guy to trust you?

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:38 AM★ Spotlighted

That makes sense.

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:39 AM

path blazing...I like that

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:39 AM

Juile has a great question

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:40 AM

@Matt that is exactly what I thought I'd be doing when I signed on to write SEO lol.. totally different and I can make it topic relevant which I love!

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:40 AM

Are we changing the scenery, Jenn?

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:40 AM★ Spotlighted

I thought the whole Net Neutrality thing was about the internet providers pulling shady stuff... not search engines.

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:40 AM

Net Neutrality: everyone a level playing field

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:40 AM

Great question Julie!!

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:40 AM

How do you see the Internet changing in the near-future?

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:41 AM

shout out to TWF! :)

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:41 AM

Hi @Seth :-)

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:41 AM

Hey Julie :)

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:42 AM

So if I'm starting an organic dog food supply store online, how do I know that TWF can help? And how do you make me believe that it can be done?

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:42 AM

Spewing acronyms at customers would just confuse them. i am sure you explain the process in the same realistic language you are using now.

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:43 AM★ Spotlighted

Evil @ Jordan :-)

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:43 AM★ Spotlighted

I would take them on and sabotage their site

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:44 AM

LOL @ Seth

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:44 AM

Indeed Jordan... That would bring up a moral conundrum...

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:44 AM

...and then blame it on Anonymous!

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:44 AM

Exxon doesn't have one site administrator...they must have a dozen or so

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:45 AM

What do you think about the SOPA Bill and do you think it will come back in another form soon?

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:45 AM

Just sick the ppl in the guy fawkes masks to do that Seth!

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:46 AM

That is an interesting thought... if you don't draw the line at Exxon, where do you draw it? Ethically and morally speaking...

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:46 AM

Huh?

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:46 AM

shinobi!

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:47 AM

Same geeks that like Open Source :-)

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:48 AM★ Spotlighted

The internet providers are the gateway to the internet, after that, the internet is pretty much a free for all...

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:49 AM

certainly there is no confusion...lol

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:49 AM

i am the gatekeeper...

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:49 AM

Good to know Rich

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:49 AM

rich called dibs on being the gatekeeper *dang! lol

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:50 AM

Seth, your killin me...

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:50 AM

Aw dang... I didn't mean THAT

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:50 AM

I'm disgusted that the Gov. makes the internet evil to get what they want form the people... All while the Gov. breaks its own laws to spy on the people...

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:50 AM

Rachel, it's yours....

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:51 AM

Ethics....

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:51 AM

(rich-what? i'm confused?)

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:51 AM

You can be the gatekeeper now I'm out.

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:51 AM

amen tim! that's how I feel too!

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:52 AM

Let's remember Apple, Facebook, Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc. were all complicit with the NSA and never let on about what was happening

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:52 AM

oh ok ... i don't get why that statement was funny tho? lol is this a joke I am unaware of?

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:52 AM★ Spotlighted

All in the name of keeping the nation safe, I am sure.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 2:52 AM

Noted, Seth. Not forgotten.

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:52 AM

@seth - I NEVER forget that.. awful!

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:52 AM

SOPA would actually allow a big Corp to claim a small startup stole their idea, report the startup to the Gov and be instantly removed from the internet...

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:53 AM

Even if there wasn't proof one way or the other.

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:53 AM★ Spotlighted

Moment of Clarity shout out! NICE!

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:53 AM

Nice one Jenn

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:53 AM

Similar to when a big company wanted my sister's small companies slogan. No fighting that for the little guy.

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:53 AM

Wow sounds like something from "1984" Tim

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:53 AM

The startup would fail financially before the whole thing was figured out...

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:54 AM

well I surely like SEO alot more now :)

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:54 AM

Tim, sounds a bit like the 'Tucker' story

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:55 AM★ Spotlighted

I have hope. I am seeing the little guy standing up and shouting "we are not going to take this anymore"

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:55 AM

That was a good movie Rich

Tim HillerNov 21, 2013, 2:55 AM

Turns out there isn't an old man behind the veil, rather it's good ol Big Brother...

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:56 AM★ Spotlighted

the harder you clench your fists to control, the more will slip out of your grasp....

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:56 AM★ Spotlighted

Thank God @ Matt. The world needs to change.

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:56 AM★ Spotlighted

sings *we're not gonna take it... NO! we ain't gonna take it... we're not gonna take it anymore...*

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:56 AM★ Spotlighted

If SOPA passed AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner and Verizon would simply divide up the whole country

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:56 AM★ Spotlighted

Yes it does Julie, shift will happen. It is Inevitable.

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:57 AM

the distractions....

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 2:57 AM

Shift is back :)

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 2:57 AM

You know it @ Jennifer!

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:58 AM★ Spotlighted

that's the thing people need to settle in for the long haul we will be fighting for internet freedom probably for decades at least.. people need to get used to fighting back

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:58 AM

As a leader leads, others will follow...change is in the wind

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 2:58 AM

the sheeple will follow!

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:59 AM

@Rich we just need to get Robert Pattinson involved lol

Jennifer "JD" ArbuckleNov 21, 2013, 2:59 AM

and the world is full of sheep trying to make it Rich

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 2:59 AM★ Spotlighted

ooh I like that idea of an ethical SEO campaign! :D

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 3:00 AM★ Spotlighted

People get fired up about the Internet, since they're on it all day. Mess with peoples' Internet and I think you'll see some pitchforks coming out

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 3:00 AM★ Spotlighted

Got us all riled up

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:00 AM

Yes there are Jennifer, and it's up to the sheepdogs to keep the wolves at bay

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 3:01 AM

Julie your one eye staring at me is freaking me out :)

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:01 AM

shit! those glasses!

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 3:01 AM★ Spotlighted

@Sean. I am not quite sure I am ready for that!

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:01 AM★ Spotlighted

what are those glasses called?

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 3:01 AM

I completely agree Sean

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 3:01 AM

LOL @ Seth Sorry. I really need to change that icon :-)

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:01 AM

google glass

Max von SydowNov 21, 2013, 3:01 AM

Google Glass, Rich.

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:02 AM

Thanks Max, I was having trouble recalling...

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 3:02 AM

I loved the MOC on google glasses.. Lee's take was it would thin the herd a little, people would just walk right out into traffic lol

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:04 AM

Sean, I hope not...

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 3:04 AM

@sean "if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything." more people should live by this, people feel comforted being led around not aware that they are signing away their free will. :/

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:04 AM

Robocop

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:05 AM★ Spotlighted

Same here Jordan...

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 3:05 AM★ Spotlighted

we are a tight knit family here at Tawkers :)

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 3:06 AM

old fashion "networking" Jenn

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:06 AM

So there's a positive side right there

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 3:06 AM

exactly @ Rich!

Julie MyersNov 21, 2013, 3:07 AM

This has been an informative and entertaining tawk! Thanks. This Mama Julie has to go to bed :-)

Rebecca Westbrook TokerNov 21, 2013, 3:07 AM

I always learn cool things in Tawks, but this one was super informative for me. Thanks so much!

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 3:07 AM

sounds good, great tawk! thanks Jordan and Jenn! :)

Seth HochmanNov 21, 2013, 3:07 AM

Great Tawk guys!

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:09 AM

I would like if you did Sean!

Rachel McDonnellNov 21, 2013, 3:09 AM

I would like to see a tawk with Sean also! :)

Rich HagbergNov 21, 2013, 3:10 AM

Thanks to everyone here, great tawk!

Johnathonfall thethirdNov 21, 2013, 5:06 AM

JFK anniversary very important stuff and not confusing.

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