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Is our Privacy Lost? Jay-Z & Beyonce

May 15, 2014·21 visitors

Lizz Taylor

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May 15, 2014

Pop news has been brimming with tantalizing details of a personal confrontation with Jay-Z and Solange, sister of his wife Beyonce Knowles. This follows the reveal of private conversation between an NBA team owner and his girlfriend...Where has our privacy gone or are public figures fodder for invasion?

Pat Fairweather · 6:59 PM

Good afternoon, LIzz!

Lizz Taylor · 6:59 PM

Hello!

Lizz Taylor · 6:59 PM

I keep redshift and still no comments.

Lizz Taylor · 7:00 PM

Ok. I think its working

Pat Fairweather · 7:00 PM

This afternoon, we're going to discuss the issue of privacy.

Lizz Taylor · 7:00 PM

What are your thoughts on celebrities having their business put out there for the world to see?

Pat Fairweather · 7:00 PM

In the past few weeks, several public figures have suffered from invasion of privacy...Jay-Z, Beyonce and more...

Pat Fairweather · 7:01 PM

But is it really an invasion when they are so in the public eye?

Lizz Taylor · 7:01 PM

Beyoncé knowles is certainly no stranger to the spotlight.

Pat Fairweather · 7:01 PM

fancy, you even used an accent!!

Lizz Taylor · 7:01 PM

I think it is a fine line our society has not grasped.

Lizz Taylor · 7:01 PM

Lol. Smart iPad.

Pat Fairweather · 7:02 PM

That's my thoughts too...is it really our business that Solange Knowles and Jay-Z got into it?

Lizz Taylor · 7:02 PM

Celebrities should behave in a manner not to attract attention to themselves. They already have enough!

Pat Fairweather · 7:02 PM

I believe that they need to represent properly BECAUSE they are in the public eye

Lizz Taylor · 7:02 PM

My mom always said, if you're going to cause I scene, do it inside where no one can see you.

Pat Fairweather · 7:02 PM

Or Dance like no one is looking, huh?

Lizz Taylor · 7:03 PM

Exactly. Even if they did put on smiling faces when the elevator door opened...

Pat Fairweather · 7:03 PM

It's not like there were laws broken, it was a family issue as far as I can tell.

Pat Fairweather · 7:03 PM

Pretty bold to take on Jay-Z I think!

Lizz Taylor · 7:04 PM

Precisely. It is probably embarrassing and they don't need their private lives put on public blast. However, our media outlets should have bigger issues to cover. That is the problem here. The media shoves it in everyone's face.

Pat Fairweather · 7:05 PM

this issue easily translates to the problems with papparazzi

Pat Fairweather · 7:05 PM

and the media

Pat Fairweather · 7:05 PM

sensationalizing every damn thing they can

Lizz Taylor · 7:05 PM

They have to have better things to do with their time, but they also five "the people" what they want...

Lizz Taylor · 7:06 PM

Give

Pat Fairweather · 7:06 PM

do we really need to know stuff like this when there are nearly 250 school girls being held captive by Boka Haram? Really?

Lizz Taylor · 7:07 PM

Exactly. But people don't want hear about that. They want gossip. Sad.

Pat Fairweather · 7:07 PM

I would think that even the dedication of the 9/11 Memorial Museum would be more newsworthy than a Jay-Z confrontation with Solange

Pat Fairweather · 7:08 PM

I like trash/fluffy news as much as the next person but only when it's appropriate

Lizz Taylor · 7:08 PM

I can see how solange wants to protect her sister. And with most celebrity issues, we do not know the half of it!

Lizz Taylor · 7:08 PM

We are merely speculating on something we know nothing about.

Pat Fairweather · 7:08 PM

No one really knows what happened but rumors are flying that Jay-Z isn't treating Beyonce very well.

Pat Fairweather · 7:08 PM

As a sister myself, I would kick his ass too

Pat Fairweather · 7:08 PM

If that is the truth

Lizz Taylor · 7:09 PM

If Jay-Z and Beyoncé are having issues in their relationship, that's THEIR business. The media then makes it ours:(

Pat Fairweather · 7:09 PM

Exactly!!!

Lizz Taylor · 7:09 PM

I would kick some ass too, but that was neither the time or place for such a discussion.

Pat Fairweather · 7:10 PM

Sometimes emotion rules us...I expect that is about what happened

Lizz Taylor · 7:10 PM

Celebrity or not: conduct yourself like a respectable human being when in public. Period.

Pat Fairweather · 7:10 PM

Right on...I read this morning that the person who sold the video was fired

Lizz Taylor · 7:10 PM

Growing up and becoming an adult means you take responsibility for your actions and know which battles to fight and when.

Lizz Taylor · 7:11 PM

I read that too. Shameless!!!

Pat Fairweather · 7:11 PM

Speaking of behaving like an adult...how about Justin Bieber??

Lizz Taylor · 7:11 PM

It's all about poise and tact.

Pat Fairweather · 7:11 PM

I'm so sick of hearing about his antics...nevermind

Lizz Taylor · 7:11 PM

He is misbehaving just like any other kid his age. Unfortunately his success allows him to get into more trouble than the average kid

Pat Fairweather · 7:12 PM

True...

Lizz Taylor · 7:12 PM

Look at his mom- pregnant at 18

Pat Fairweather · 7:12 PM

Let's get back on topic...privacy invasion at the celebrity level

Lizz Taylor · 7:12 PM

He just doesn't have good role models. Lil Wayne should not be hanging out with this kid! He's a child!

Lizz Taylor · 7:12 PM

If celebrities are breaking the law, it is totally our business as citizens of the same country.

Pat Fairweather · 7:13 PM

Bieber is going to end up in prison...and he won't be treated well!! But the Jay-Z Solange confrontatino is another animal

Lizz Taylor · 7:13 PM

The media should leave them alone if it is not a criminal offense.

Pat Fairweather · 7:13 PM

I agree...so let's talk about Donald Sterling, owner of the LA Clippers

Pat Fairweather · 7:14 PM

His g/f recorded some "off color" comments and he was fined $2.5 million

Lizz Taylor · 7:14 PM

The guy who only wants certain races to contribute to his paycheck?

Pat Fairweather · 7:14 PM

He's the one writing the checks...he didn't want his g/f bringing black men to the Clipper games...what?

Lizz Taylor · 7:14 PM

No one should be fined for their opinions as long as they're not terrorist or threatening.

Lizz Taylor · 7:15 PM

I meant that team makes him money people watching them okay makes his money.

Pat Fairweather · 7:15 PM

78% African American sport, he owns a team and doesn't want his g/f around them?

Pat Fairweather · 7:15 PM

Hmmmm?

Pat Fairweather · 7:15 PM

anyway...should his display of racism be a public issue or is it private?

Lizz Taylor · 7:15 PM

Even if I was racist I wouldn't care who paid money to see my team play = money in my pocket.

Pat Fairweather · 7:16 PM

Well, much like Beyonce, Solange and Jay-Z, is it really news?

Lizz Taylor · 7:16 PM

Once again, he thought he was having a trusted conversation with his girlfriend (another issue).

Pat Fairweather · 7:16 PM

The exact issue we are discussing

Pat Fairweather · 7:17 PM

Is it an invasion of personal privacy if you are a public figure or celebrity?

Lizz Taylor · 7:17 PM

You can't trust anyone these days, especially if you are stupid rich! Everyone is out to make a dollar. No one has morals when money is involved.

Lizz Taylor · 7:17 PM

He made the mistake of trusting that girlfriend to have a private conversation...

Lizz Taylor · 7:17 PM

And it cost him millions of dollars.

Lizz Taylor · 7:18 PM

If anyone's privacy was invaded, it was his by the girlfriend.

Pat Fairweather · 7:18 PM

Again, the tape was sold to the media

Pat Fairweather · 7:18 PM

or recording...I'm showing my age

Lizz Taylor · 7:18 PM

Again, no morals if the price is right.

Pat Fairweather · 7:19 PM

So you're saying that money is the root?

Pat Fairweather · 7:19 PM

What about Solange and Jay-Z...money caused the invasion, right?

Lizz Taylor · 7:19 PM

Money is what motivates people to do just about everything they do. Yes.

Pat Fairweather · 7:19 PM

Haven't you done something in an elevator that you wouldn't do in public?

Lizz Taylor · 7:19 PM

Yes. If they weren't crazy wealthy, we would've never heard of it.

Lizz Taylor · 7:20 PM

The recording wouldn't have been worth anything and no one would've cared.

Lizz Taylor · 7:20 PM

Haha. No comment.

Pat Fairweather · 7:20 PM

But because of it being Beyonce and Jay-Z, suddenly it's newsworthy

Lizz Taylor · 7:20 PM

Was the guy in the elevator with them?

Pat Fairweather · 7:20 PM

No, it was a surveillance film

Lizz Taylor · 7:20 PM

Oh. Gotcha.

Pat Fairweather · 7:21 PM

And one of the security guys sold it to TMZ

Pat Fairweather · 7:21 PM

for 1/4mill

Pat Fairweather · 7:21 PM

At least that is what the media is saying

Lizz Taylor · 7:21 PM

Because he wanted to make some money. Didn't care he would lose his job

Pat Fairweather · 7:21 PM

exactly...he actually went out and bought a brand new car...that's how they knew he did it.

Lizz Taylor · 7:22 PM

Idiot. He's the kind of person who will blow through it and end up on the streets.

Pat Fairweather · 7:23 PM

I'm drawing the conclusion here that the Beyonce Knowles story is the fault of a laborer

Lizz Taylor · 7:23 PM

Jay-Z and Beyoncé were motivated by money (and love for their craft at some point) and that's what got them where they are today

Pat Fairweather · 7:24 PM

and what got them into this controversy is greed

Pat Fairweather · 7:24 PM

and a lack of respect for a person's privacy

Pat Fairweather · 7:24 PM

right?

Lizz Taylor · 7:24 PM

The employee is to blame. Definitely an invasion of privacy.

Pat Fairweather · 7:24 PM

Just like the papparazzi

Lizz Taylor · 7:24 PM

Yep

Pat Fairweather · 7:25 PM

Well, I believe to each his own...and using people's celebrity and invading their privacy for monitary gain is just sad

Lizz Taylor · 7:25 PM

It is sad... Like so many other things going on in the world.

Pat Fairweather · 7:26 PM

I agree with you that celebrities and public figures should behave accordingly but we need to realize that they are just as human as we are

Lizz Taylor · 7:26 PM

That's true.

Pat Fairweather · 7:27 PM

Sterling should have shut his mouth but his g/f shouldn't have sold out. And Jay-Z and Solange should have settled down in public

Pat Fairweather · 7:27 PM

but the security guard should have respected the privacy for that moment

Lizz Taylor · 7:27 PM

Def not the time for solange to attack him about anything. Wait until you're in your car!

Lizz Taylor · 7:28 PM

Security guard is an idiot

Pat Fairweather · 7:28 PM

In a world filled with terrorism like Boko Haram we should concentrate on the positive news in pop culture

Lizz Taylor · 7:28 PM

I couldn't agree more!

Pat Fairweather · 7:29 PM

OKay...great tawk, Lizz...

Lizz Taylor · 7:30 PM

Good Tawk. Later gator!