
Lee Camp
Host
Is Religion Evil?
Dec 10, 2013188 visitors
Eleanor Goldfield
Cohost

For the weekly Moment of Clarity Tawk we dissect the many sects of religion. Is it standing in the way of societal evolution?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey
“Oh man...they got to him!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:02 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey
“Religion are for those seeking something.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jahba Himself
“Religon is merely a control mechanism which preys upon the most primal fear of all; the fear of the unknown/death”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lauren DiGioia
“I'm seeking truth, and I know the human race is notorious for making shit up, like the greatest story ever told.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

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Eleanor Goldfield · 11:12 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey
“It's just me and Eleanor again in awkwardness...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey
“I belies there's some hidden truth to every fairy tale or some lesson to learn from it. People make religion evil. Religion in itself is just a belief system. You make of it what you want”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM
★ Spotlighted from Elizabeth Kerns
“Do you think fairy tales are evil? I think there is bias here. Do you think hammers are evil? They can be used to build shelter or could be the no.1 homicide weapon used in the united states.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“Humans invented religions & religion, so it's up to us really.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“we invented religion and evil* sorry haha”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM
★ Spotlighted from TheBartons Page
“Being a retired soldier and seeing christian vs muslim and the opposite I believe religion can be nothing but evil”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“religion is just an avenue that evil people have exploited throughout history.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“when I see a super church, I just imagine christianity going extinct and us making it an indoor farm. but I'm a hopless optimist.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jacob Heckler
“An inherently good deity wouldn't flood the earth in anger.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“"Mr. Camp, you're being called to the web pulpit, paging Mr. Camp.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey
“We have free will. My belief is we create our reality based on our perception of what should be.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM
★ Spotlighted from Nenny Pallister
“Being a pagan my religion is based on nature and the seasons Therefore Laurens comment has a lot of truth for me”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM
★ Spotlighted from Pyotr Drevacks
“any religion? like scientology counts?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey
“Our reality is shaped by our beliefs so...wait...I feel like we are going around in circles like a merry go round...someone get me off! I'm getting dizzy!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM
★ Spotlighted from Elizabeth Kerns
“I think as religions are dying we are seeing more people becoming socially isolated. Other than religion, how do you think we can create good communities with many people with not much in common? We see more people paying for social contact like mu”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“scientology is about as much of a religion as star trek”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“except for the fact that Trekkies are far more realistic”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM
★ Spotlighted from Tawkers Admin
“Tawkers robots are trying to communicate with Lee via telepathy to help him resolve his internet issues, in the meantime be sure to vote each other's comments UP so Eleanor sees them!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“scientology is what tin foil hat wearers dream about when they become rich and famous.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM
★ Spotlighted from Pyotr Drevacks
“doesnt the pope wear a stupid hat?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM
★ Spotlighted from Pyotr Drevacks
“i mean, what makes it any different?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jacob Heckler
“We would still have football teams to argue over, political beliefs, etc... it may still be an 'us vs. them' even without religion...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey
“Good question Lee...a global awakening will happen only when we decide that we are all connected and then we won't need religion.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“*blame corporate theocratic fascism”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM
★ Spotlighted from Anthony DeMeo
“Jacob, how many football games have caused the murder of innocent thousands? religion as a business has some pretty piss poor quality control.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jacob Heckler
“Oh some fans of a team or a political party would very much cry 'evil' of their opponents. I state that people are very much fanatics about what is 'theirs"...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jacob Heckler
“We take an odd personal ownership of the things we believe or even just prefer. Sadly, yes, religious zealotry seems to cause much more violence.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lisa Del Rey
“Like someone had commented earlier where we need to find some common ground and so some rely on religion...atheism is also a religion...it's a belief in something. So when we all put our differences aside and realize that there is no separation...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“But, religion and politics are inherently connected. The US was the first non-theological constitution. We still expect our elected officials to have a religion.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“Absolutely. I think it says something that Barney Frank came out at gay in 1987, but didn't come out as an atheist until after he retired last year.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer
“is expecting our politicains to have a religeon,because we want to see them in a "pure" light,as it were? that they are whiter than white....”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“That makes me so crazy when the opposite is true. If you need a stick and a carrot to do anything, those aren't morals. (The US isn't the only place that's true; it's true most places.)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jacob Heckler
“I don't know enough information about any Atheist Church to have an opinion on that. Does anyone have a general explanation of such a place.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer
“i agree with eleanor,pushing these athesit churches on us is basically doing the same thing as any other religion...no?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM
★ Spotlighted from Pyotr Drevacks
“atheism isn't a religion, i mean in it's self atheism means "without a god" there is no one to worship, why would there be a church?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“The "churches" for atheists are designed to build communities that some think are lacking without religion. I've actually found more satisfying community without religion as a backbone. I have more in common with the people I associate with now.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jacob Heckler
“Exactly my question, Pyotr.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM
★ Spotlighted from Pyotr Drevacks
“not believing in something doesn't mean you have to believe in something else”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“Agreed, @Pyotr -- Also, since when is having a lack of something in common a foundation for having actual things in common? (that was so twisted in the logic, even I have trouble following it…)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jacob Heckler
“The idea that you must believe in something, anything, is really from a 'believers' stand point. I think it is just impossible for them to understand a lack of faith and belief...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer
“plus everything needs to have a label of some kind. just so everyone knows what they are talking about and feels comfortable”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM
★ Spotlighted from Pyotr Drevacks
“i think it is impossible for man to live without spirituality of some kind, but most mainstream religions have done the world as a whole organismo more evil than good”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“That so many people need the threat of punishment and the promise of reward to do anything (and I do mean anything) is terrifying to me.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM
★ Spotlighted from Jacob Heckler
“So, is it the need for comfort, the societal need for a label, that is the actual evil?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:54 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer
“you could call Wall Street a church.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM
★ Spotlighted from Brett Schnaper
“plenty of religions have no gods. please don't conflate theism with religion.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:56 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“Yeah, it's that people can't make decisions on their own that does it for me. It let's people off the hook -- they don't have to think through things and aren't ultimately responsible for their beliefs.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM
★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer
“are you celebrating christmas because its religious because you are an atheist? or just because its a time when you can get drunk and have a day off work?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM
★ Spotlighted from Brett Schnaper
“Nah, no they don't Huge horking city dweller religions are like that, but it's very different for indigenous people, whose beliefe systems vary widely.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“I think we need secular Christians the way we have secular Jews. I'd get back into it. Tree, food, friends, family? Yup. In for sure.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

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Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“Good point, Eleanor. It's the long-term, patriarchal, institutionalized ( and therefore protectionist ) religions that expect other people to believe what they do and act accordingly.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM
★ Spotlighted from Katie Klabusich
“Great topic!! Thanks, Eleanor -- and 1/2 Lee!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:03 AM

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:03 AM