Blake Ian

Lou Reed, Transformer

Oct 29, 2013

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Oct 29, 2013

Songwriters, Lee Diamond and Blake Ian discuss the work of the late Lou Reed, and the tremendous influence it had on both of them.

Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:00 AM

Aloha Mr Hand!
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Lee Diamond · 4:00 AM

hey man!
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Lee Diamond · 4:00 AM

I jsut got home from Brooklyn
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Lee Diamond · 4:00 AM

it's like a national day of mourning in Williamsburg
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Lee Diamond · 4:01 AM

every single bar I walked into was playing White Light White Heat
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:01 AM

Yeah BK must be a crazy scene this week
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:01 AM

So have you ever listened to Lou Reed's music?
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Lee Diamond · 4:02 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:02 AM

Have I?
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Lee Diamond · 4:02 AM

I've been playing his records, vinyl
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:02 AM

: P
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Lee Diamond · 4:02 AM

that I bought in High School!
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Lee Diamond · 4:02 AM

haunting stuff to hear now
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:03 AM

yeah its always strange that first week or two when an artist dies...there is this sudden transition of listening to someone who isn't on this earth anymore
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Lee Diamond · 4:03 AM

exactly
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:03 AM

I remember that feeling when Elliott died
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Lee Diamond · 4:03 AM

we live in a Lou Reed afterworld :(
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Lee Diamond · 4:04 AM

me too
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:04 AM

Post Reedian
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Lee Diamond · 4:04 AM

I never got to see him live
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Lee Diamond · 4:04 AM

Now I'll regret that
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Lee Diamond · 4:04 AM

Have you?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:04 AM

Lou or Eliott??
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Lee Diamond · 4:05 AM

Lou
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:05 AM

NO! I thought about that yesterday actually
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Lee Diamond · 4:05 AM

it sucks
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Lee Diamond · 4:06 AM

There will be no true Velvet Underground reunion ever again
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Lee Diamond · 4:06 AM

Doug Yule is alive and well I think
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:06 AM

What's the first VU song you learned to play ?
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Lee Diamond · 4:06 AM

Maybe the "Squeeze" album will make a comeback
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Lee Diamond · 4:06 AM

oh
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Lee Diamond · 4:07 AM

it was Sweet Jane, Rock and Roll after
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Lee Diamond · 4:07 AM

Rock and Roll was cool, cause it's in some weird tuning, every string is tuned to the same note
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Lee Diamond · 4:08 AM

Lou Reed was a profound influence on me. changed the way I write songs for sure
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:08 AM

mine was Pale Blue Eyes
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Lee Diamond · 4:08 AM

I love that song
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Lee Diamond · 4:08 AM

that whole album, self titled, amazing,
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Lee Diamond · 4:08 AM

perhaps, their best.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:09 AM

Candy Says was the song that first made me say "holy shit these guys are awesome"
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Lee Diamond · 4:09 AM

I know what you mean.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:09 AM

listening in cutler's car, very stoned
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Lee Diamond · 4:09 AM

I was in the car with you, I recall
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:09 AM

it was such a beautiful sound
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Lee Diamond · 4:10 AM

indeed
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:10 AM

hahah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:10 AM

nah this was like 95
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Lee Diamond · 4:10 AM

That album still sounds fresh when I put it on
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:10 AM

didn't know ya just yet... but Im sure there were many other Candy Says stoned listens
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Lee Diamond · 4:10 AM

never got old
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:11 AM

hahah one time a couple of chicks we hung out with a lot in high school freaked out listening to this one track when they were high
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:11 AM

shit whats the name of that song... its like a million voices
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Lee Diamond · 4:11 AM

which track?
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Lee Diamond · 4:11 AM

The Gift?
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Lee Diamond · 4:12 AM

So Transformer
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Lee Diamond · 4:12 AM

masterpiece?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:12 AM

hmmm not the Gift
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Lee Diamond · 4:12 AM

David Bowie and Mick Ronson produced
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:12 AM

Nico is on it
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Lee Diamond · 4:12 AM

oh
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:13 AM

like reading or something hahah
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Lee Diamond · 4:13 AM

Venus in Furs?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:13 AM

similar to the gift
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Lee Diamond · 4:13 AM

it is like reading to music, a lot of Lou Reed songs
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:13 AM

not Venus either... its fast!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:13 AM

very fast
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Lee Diamond · 4:14 AM

run run run!?
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Lee Diamond · 4:14 AM

oh!
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Lee Diamond · 4:14 AM

black angels death song
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Lee Diamond · 4:14 AM

thats what you're talking about?
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Lee Diamond · 4:14 AM

poetry to music
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Lee Diamond · 4:14 AM

it is fast
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Lee Diamond · 4:15 AM

european son
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:15 AM

hahah its not black angels
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Lee Diamond · 4:15 AM

european son
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:15 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:15 AM

NOPE!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:16 AM

ah well Ill figure it out, Ill go digging on spottily later and come back and tell ya
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:16 AM

anyway... we got way off track here... Is Lou Reed still dead?
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Lee Diamond · 4:16 AM

No rumor. He's gone.
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Lee Diamond · 4:16 AM

lived an incredible and long life though
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Lee Diamond · 4:17 AM

one to be celebrated
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:17 AM

yeah, one of my other obsession songs was Heroin
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Lee Diamond · 4:17 AM

mine too
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Lee Diamond · 4:17 AM

I think the scene in the Doors movie is when I first heard it , not sure
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:17 AM

that scene is amazing
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:18 AM

Best warhol!
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Lee Diamond · 4:18 AM

Crispin Glover?
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Lee Diamond · 4:18 AM

spot on Andy Warhol
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:18 AM

YES
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Lee Diamond · 4:18 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:18 AM

everyone else always played a clean, cartoonish Andy
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Lee Diamond · 4:19 AM

He may have been the best one
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:19 AM

I mean I love Bowie's in Basquiat
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:19 AM

but thats cause its Bowie
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Lee Diamond · 4:19 AM

Bowie was good, but he was kinda still Bowie
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:19 AM

but Crispin played him like REAL, all fucked up
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Lee Diamond · 4:19 AM

I think I;ll watch that tonight. Basquiat
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyqXFXbDPcg
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Lee Diamond · 4:20 AM

so Lou Reed, great guitarist or not?
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Lee Diamond · 4:20 AM

some think so, some don't
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:20 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:20 AM

My bro just told me Jeffrey Wright (Basquiat) is awesome on Boardwalk this year... haven't watched yet
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:20 AM

ok back to Lou
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:21 AM

I mean "great guitarist" is always hard to measure
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Lee Diamond · 4:21 AM

I think he was
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Lee Diamond · 4:21 AM

He definitely put his art before the craft, but it's all connected
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:21 AM

if you go by what I consider to be important than absolutely
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Lee Diamond · 4:21 AM

creative
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:22 AM

same could be said about Bob, Kurt, Petty...
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Lee Diamond · 4:22 AM

Yes, Kurt same thing
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:22 AM

its what they did with it
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:22 AM

I mean its not HARD to play a kurt song, but inventing what he did, thats where its at
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:23 AM

thats how I consider Lou as a guitarist..
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:23 AM

I mean some guys think Jeff Beck is a great guitarist... but like who cares about what he is doing??
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:23 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:23 AM

haha!
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Lee Diamond · 4:23 AM

touche!
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Lee Diamond · 4:23 AM

you know I love Beck
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:24 AM

I mean Clapton and Jeff right? Take them both... both incredible skill... but there is something extreme missing from what Jeff is doing compared to Eric
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Lee Diamond · 4:24 AM

I love them both
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Lee Diamond · 4:24 AM

Both in the Yardbirds
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:24 AM

there's "hard to repeat" guitarists and there's "inventive, revolutionary, powerful" guitarists
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:25 AM

yeah thats why I used them... you love the Yardbirds
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Lee Diamond · 4:25 AM

Lou Reed did become a "lead" guitarist later in his career
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Lee Diamond · 4:25 AM

like The Blue Mask
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Lee Diamond · 4:25 AM

he solo'd his ass off
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Lee Diamond · 4:25 AM

he kind of became that type of guitar player
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Lee Diamond · 4:25 AM

blues
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:25 AM

http://open.spotify.com/track/3BddioJA6UBeAF8RqgLUmK
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:25 AM

some listening for the readers
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Lee Diamond · 4:26 AM

Shock Radar is playing
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Lee Diamond · 4:26 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:26 AM

yes - "Yardbird" !
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Lee Diamond · 4:26 AM

ok
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:26 AM

My professor Joe Ferry at Purchase told me a great story about Jeff Beck once...
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Lee Diamond · 4:26 AM

that one's for Jeff Beck and his awesome feel
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Lee Diamond · 4:26 AM

:)
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

NO FEEL!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:27 AM

ALL FEEL
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

Clatpton got all the feel
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Lee Diamond · 4:27 AM

they are more similar than different
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

Jeff Beck is the Danny Devito in Twins of the Yardbirds!
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Lee Diamond · 4:27 AM

hahaha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

i said it!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

"the left over crap"
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Lee Diamond · 4:27 AM

Devito was ALL FEEL
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Lee Diamond · 4:27 AM

he made that movie!!
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Lee Diamond · 4:27 AM

come on
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

no the character
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

not devito!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:27 AM

Vince
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:28 AM

check this out.. Im gonna bring it back to music from Twins ready??
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:28 AM

the chick who played Vince's girlfriend in Twins... what famous rockstar wife did she play?!
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Lee Diamond · 4:28 AM

I dont have a clue
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Lee Diamond · 4:29 AM

I'm in post Lou mourning, what is this?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:29 AM

ok ok
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:29 AM

but her name is Chloe Webb and she played Nancy in Sid and Nancy
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Lee Diamond · 4:29 AM

oh!!!
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Lee Diamond · 4:29 AM

that's right!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:29 AM

Pretty RELEVANT to the Lou tawk!
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Lee Diamond · 4:29 AM

I forgot she was in that
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Lee Diamond · 4:29 AM

she was perfectly annpoying
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:30 AM

hahah yeah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:30 AM

Oh Lou, Im gonna miss ya
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Lee Diamond · 4:30 AM

I do miss him
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:30 AM

ok so there was Candy Says first to hear and fall in love with the band
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:30 AM

then there was pale blue eyes that I first learned to play
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:30 AM

THEN Trainspotting scene - Perfect Day
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Lee Diamond · 4:30 AM

Man
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:30 AM

learned to play and sing that one too
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Lee Diamond · 4:30 AM

that scene is incredible
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Lee Diamond · 4:31 AM

powerful
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:31 AM

it was actually one of the first songs I downloaded on Napster and burned to a mix CD
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Lee Diamond · 4:31 AM

a perfect day
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:31 AM

I remember the first time I heard Heroin at a party actually and literally said to the guy who was playing it "WHAT is THIS?!"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:32 AM

I remember it vividly
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Lee Diamond · 4:32 AM

were you on Heroin?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:32 AM

I couldn't get enough of the song for 10 years after that
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Lee Diamond · 4:32 AM

sounds like a good party
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:32 AM

haha no, shrooms
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:32 AM

it was at Purchase
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:32 AM

kid was playing it in his dorm
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:32 AM

first week of school
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Lee Diamond · 4:33 AM

the VU were definitely a college rock band for me
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Lee Diamond · 4:33 AM

loved them in college
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:33 AM

OH but then!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:33 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:33 AM

I got into the funniest Lou record for a while
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:33 AM

you might laugh at me
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Lee Diamond · 4:33 AM

Street Hastle?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:33 AM

Nope
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Lee Diamond · 4:33 AM

Growing up in Public?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:34 AM

Man I gotta go listen to this record right now!
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Lee Diamond · 4:34 AM

which?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:34 AM

Lou Reed, New York
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:34 AM

The Halloween Parade!
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Lee Diamond · 4:34 AM

Love that record!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:34 AM

Romeo and Juliette
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Lee Diamond · 4:34 AM

busload of faith
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:34 AM

dirty blvd
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Lee Diamond · 4:34 AM

that was my favorite
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:34 AM

I mean its likely oddly straightforward and clean
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Lee Diamond · 4:34 AM

everyone's favorite
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:35 AM

*like
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:35 AM

and happy
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:35 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:35 AM

was he doing Yoga?
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Lee Diamond · 4:35 AM

I think he just wanted to rock out
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:35 AM

but still so catchy and brilliant
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Lee Diamond · 4:35 AM

the lyrics aren't "happy"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:35 AM

but even the mixes were like way cleaner than normal
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Lee Diamond · 4:35 AM

yeah
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Lee Diamond · 4:35 AM

he was sober for that album, I think
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Lee Diamond · 4:36 AM

1989 or something
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:36 AM

"Give me your hungry, your tired, your poor... Ill piss on em"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:36 AM

lol
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:36 AM

"That's what the statue of bigotry says"
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Lee Diamond · 4:36 AM

love it
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Lee Diamond · 4:36 AM

speaking of New York, we haven't mentioned
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Lee Diamond · 4:37 AM

we lost the king of Long Island rockers
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Lee Diamond · 4:37 AM

Lou was from Freeport! town next to me
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:37 AM

Wow didn't know that!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:37 AM

always thought BK
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Lee Diamond · 4:38 AM

grew up on L.I.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:38 AM

thats awesome... one of us
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Lee Diamond · 4:38 AM

now, all we have is Billy Joel
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:38 AM

or we're one of him
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Lee Diamond · 4:38 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:38 AM

lol I was JUST typing a Billy Joel joke
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Lee Diamond · 4:38 AM

type away
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:38 AM

OH!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:38 AM

The Murder Mystery!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:39 AM

that was the song the girls bugged out to
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Lee Diamond · 4:39 AM

thats not from Nico! But yeah
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Lee Diamond · 4:39 AM

that's a great a song
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Lee Diamond · 4:39 AM

like reading poetry over music
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:39 AM

You're right, she isn't one of the voices, I was confusing it with one of the others you said...
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Lee Diamond · 4:39 AM

the end is crazy and fast
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:40 AM

Let's Tawk Lou lyrics for a second...
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:41 AM

I gotta think above all, to start a song with "sometimes I feel so happy, sometimes I feel so sad" is like a Dylanesque moment in history
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:41 AM

profound and unifying words that can be understood by every person on the planet
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Lee Diamond · 4:41 AM

true
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Lee Diamond · 4:41 AM

Lou was a great story teller too
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:42 AM

unlike say "heroin, it's my wife and its my life"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:42 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:42 AM

he didn't just put cool lines together
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Lee Diamond · 4:42 AM

Dylan was different
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:42 AM

you mean like Beck?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:43 AM

Dylan did that sometimes... the Beck thing
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Lee Diamond · 4:43 AM

Yeah, abstract
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:43 AM

Beck is like lyrical collages
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Lee Diamond · 4:43 AM

I think he did it more than Lou Reed, although Lou was abstract, but I think Lou was more focuses on painting a picture or telling a story.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:43 AM

Dylan did that sometimes
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:44 AM

but then ya got blowin in the wind and hurricane which is the opposite
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Lee Diamond · 4:44 AM

Sure, Dylan did it all. But I never thought of Lou as being another Bob Dylan
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:44 AM

yeah Lou had imagery that tied together through an entire song
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:44 AM

no def not
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:44 AM

I was just saying that one line to start off Pale Blue eyes
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Lee Diamond · 4:44 AM

I hear that too much from friends too, that Lou was copying Dylan
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:44 AM

was a dylan moment, I meant it as a compliment
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Lee Diamond · 4:44 AM

I don't get that
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:45 AM

Dylan being the lyrical master of the millennium
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:45 AM

No way!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:45 AM

Lou was more like a godfather of punk
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Lee Diamond · 4:45 AM

But I don't think Lou ever admitted to being influenced by Bob Dylan
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Lee Diamond · 4:45 AM

maybe later in his career
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:45 AM

everyone post dylan was influenced by Dylan
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Lee Diamond · 4:46 AM

I don't know if Lou even liked him in the 60's
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Lee Diamond · 4:46 AM

true
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:46 AM

From Tupac to Bono!
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Lee Diamond · 4:46 AM

But I never actually heard Lou talk about Dylan as an idol, or anything like that
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:46 AM

Dude Dylan was tweaking up against Alan Thicke way before Miley was with Robin
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Lee Diamond · 4:46 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:46 AM

Lou was too cool for idols
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:46 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:46 AM

can't argue that
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Lee Diamond · 4:47 AM

He was too cool
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Lee Diamond · 4:47 AM

why didn't they ever jam?
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Lee Diamond · 4:47 AM

or do any collaborating ?
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Lee Diamond · 4:47 AM

who hasn't jammed with Bob Dylan!?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:48 AM

I think people lose perspective of what something sounded like when it first car into existance
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:48 AM

Lou was jamming wit Bowie
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:48 AM

diff scene
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:48 AM

dirty drug scene
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Lee Diamond · 4:48 AM

What, Dylan didn't take dirty drugs?
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Lee Diamond · 4:48 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:48 AM

there was some overlap, but remember Dylan took that long time off
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Lee Diamond · 4:48 AM

was he too famous for Lou?
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Lee Diamond · 4:49 AM

yah, after the motocycle accident
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:49 AM

and Dylan wasn't getting down with the glam, transgender, heroin scene
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:49 AM

he had the accident
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:49 AM

yeah
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Lee Diamond · 4:49 AM

I wonder if Dylan liked Lou Reed's music.
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:49 AM

then when he returned there were a few birthday shows and a lot of religions haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:49 AM

Never heard him talk about it
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Lee Diamond · 4:49 AM

what religion is he now?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:49 AM

Jew
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Lee Diamond · 4:50 AM

again?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:50 AM

goes to temple
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Lee Diamond · 4:50 AM

full circle?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:50 AM

on high holidays
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Lee Diamond · 4:50 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:50 AM

haha for real
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Lee Diamond · 4:50 AM

well, Lou remained true to his jewishness, his whole life
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:50 AM

he goes to a temple on long island on yom kippur
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Lee Diamond · 4:50 AM

how do you know this?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:50 AM

I know someone who goes to the temple
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:51 AM

that he goes to on yom kippur
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Lee Diamond · 4:51 AM

I wouldn't think Dylan even knows where he is half the time now
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:51 AM

well lets not open the Dylan door, we will never get back to Lou!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:51 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:51 AM

ok
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:51 AM

but I will say this, I think thats the genius of Dylan
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:51 AM

can't put your finger on him ever
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Lee Diamond · 4:51 AM

I never met him!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:51 AM

people try to make movies, try to define him
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:51 AM

never works
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:52 AM

too slippery
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Lee Diamond · 4:52 AM

if I met him, I would try to put a finger on him
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:52 AM

hahahaha
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Lee Diamond · 4:52 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:52 AM

dude you could have at prospect park that time!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:52 AM

he was like 10 feet from us
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Lee Diamond · 4:52 AM

we were close
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:52 AM

you could have put out a finger
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Lee Diamond · 4:52 AM

"Robert!! Robert!!!"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:52 AM

"Bob! Can I put my finger on you?!"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:52 AM

its clean I was wearing a glove!
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Lee Diamond · 4:52 AM

hahah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:53 AM

Man I haven't smoked marijuana in years, but I think Heroin may have been my favorite song to listen to stoned ever...
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:53 AM

honestly. #1
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:53 AM

just floated away listening to that song
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Lee Diamond · 4:53 AM

Did we ever jam that song?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:53 AM

insane energy
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Lee Diamond · 4:54 AM

we probably did at some point
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:54 AM

yes we did
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:54 AM

me you and Larry played it at USL at Jay Mccabes bachelor party
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Lee Diamond · 4:54 AM

Amazing night
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:54 AM

never happened!
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Lee Diamond · 4:54 AM

haha!!
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Lee Diamond · 4:54 AM

well, that party was amazing
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:54 AM

never. happened.
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Lee Diamond · 4:54 AM

it didn't?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:55 AM

there was no party, no night, erased from existence
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:55 AM

No gang!
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Lee Diamond · 4:55 AM

I think I played 2 sets that night
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Lee Diamond · 4:55 AM

YOu and my band
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:55 AM

you did
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:55 AM

3 actually
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Lee Diamond · 4:55 AM

and I passed out before thre Feud
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:55 AM

Blake Ian set, Shock Radar set, me you Larry set
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Lee Diamond · 4:56 AM

I miss the USL
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:56 AM

yeah man that might have been the sickest setup a band ever had
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Lee Diamond · 4:56 AM

we were like The Commitments
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Lee Diamond · 4:56 AM

rehearsing in a bar
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Lee Diamond · 4:56 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:56 AM

we had a bar to ourselves to rehearse and drink for free
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:56 AM

and we even had a bartender!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:56 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:56 AM

i remember
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:56 AM

Dina... I loved her
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Lee Diamond · 4:56 AM

ruled
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Lee Diamond · 4:56 AM

yes!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:56 AM

I loved a lot of girls
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:56 AM

hahah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:57 AM

but she was the ONE that winter
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Lee Diamond · 4:57 AM

you hook up with Dina!?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:57 AM

nah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:57 AM

can't hook up with a muse
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Lee Diamond · 4:57 AM

ah, a muse
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Lee Diamond · 4:57 AM

Great Flick!!!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:57 AM

didn't you ever see the Brooks movie!?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:57 AM

hahah
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Lee Diamond · 4:57 AM

hahaha
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Lee Diamond · 4:57 AM

The Muse!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:58 AM

You don't want your muse living in your house
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:59 AM

seriously though, I always had to have a muse ... and we played in a closed bar with one person in the room, a female bartender. There was really no way around her being the Muse for that period
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Lee Diamond · 4:59 AM

I did not know this
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Lee Diamond · 4:59 AM

Dina
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Lee Diamond · 4:59 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 4:59 AM

was Poison about her?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:59 AM

hahah no
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:59 AM

many years before her I think
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 4:59 AM

or maybe not actually
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Lee Diamond · 5:00 AM

what song of yours do you think is most influenced by Lou?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:00 AM

Did we play any Lou Reed songs together?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:00 AM

at shows
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Lee Diamond · 5:00 AM

I think we played Pale Blue eyes
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:00 AM

hmmm Id say Deniro
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Lee Diamond · 5:00 AM

i'm sure we played a few
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:00 AM

that always felt like Lou
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Lee Diamond · 5:00 AM

sweet jane
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Lee Diamond · 5:00 AM

Deniro!?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:01 AM

we did play sweet Jane at USL show once actually, it was a Mark Pot request
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:01 AM

Deniro felt very Lou no?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:01 AM

I think I was listening to a lot of Lou when I wrote that song
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Lee Diamond · 5:01 AM

I can see that. It's just progressive rockish for you
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Lee Diamond · 5:01 AM

I would have thought you'd pick a song more like Poison
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Lee Diamond · 5:01 AM

ringing out chords like "Heroin"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:02 AM

hmmm nah, Poison and Road of Diamonds are the two songs that always felt like me
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:02 AM

less influenced than others
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:02 AM

if that makes sense
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Lee Diamond · 5:02 AM

If you could play Lou one song of yours
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:02 AM

but yeah Deniro felt like Lou when I sang it
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Lee Diamond · 5:02 AM

what song would it be?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:02 AM

poison
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:02 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 5:02 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:03 AM

actually
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:03 AM

Evil Angel
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Lee Diamond · 5:03 AM

there you go
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:03 AM

I think he'd dig that
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Lee Diamond · 5:03 AM

I could see him loving that one
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:03 AM

what about you?
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Lee Diamond · 5:03 AM

Millionaire perhaps?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:03 AM

you have a Lou type thing?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:03 AM

ah definitely!
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Lee Diamond · 5:03 AM

I think he would have found the lyrics to be interesting
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:03 AM

My favorite shock song
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:03 AM

very VU actually now that I think of it
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Lee Diamond · 5:03 AM

he was a major influence on me lyrically!
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Lee Diamond · 5:04 AM

and I'm realizing that now more, that he's passed away
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:04 AM

and my other fav of yours Cousin to Jesus
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:04 AM

also very Lou
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Lee Diamond · 5:04 AM

If I never got into Lou
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Lee Diamond · 5:04 AM

and Dylan
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Lee Diamond · 5:04 AM

I think my lyricss would be really simple and predictable
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:04 AM

yeah definitely
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Lee Diamond · 5:05 AM

Whenever you hear radio bands, or bands that just suck
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:05 AM

Lou is one of the 5 or so guys, whose songs I learned to play that helped me figure out how to make them
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Lee Diamond · 5:05 AM

they're usually missing that Lou Reed ingredient
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:05 AM

one of my first songs on guitar was 5 years by Bowie
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Lee Diamond · 5:05 AM

mine too
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:05 AM

and I remember thinking "oh I see what he is doing here"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:06 AM

like with the chords and building melody and lyrics
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:06 AM

it made sense
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:06 AM

it was like a text book
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Lee Diamond · 5:06 AM

He was emulating Lou
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Lee Diamond · 5:06 AM

haha
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Lee Diamond · 5:06 AM

or the other way around?
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Lee Diamond · 5:06 AM

I don't know
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:06 AM

Drain You, 5 years, It Aint me babe
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:06 AM

Needle and the damage done
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:06 AM

they were emulating all over each other at one point!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:06 AM

hahah
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Lee Diamond · 5:06 AM

hahaha!
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Lee Diamond · 5:07 AM

and maybe we should end on that note for now
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Lee Diamond · 5:07 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:07 AM

ok just ONE more Dylan moment Im going to squeeze in here
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Lee Diamond · 5:07 AM

always
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:07 AM

and maybe this can be the beginning of our next Tawk which should definitely be on Dylan...
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Lee Diamond · 5:07 AM

a Dylan tawk would never end between me and you
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Lee Diamond · 5:08 AM

and possibly end in a screaming match on the phone
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Lee Diamond · 5:08 AM

haah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:08 AM

It aint me babe, I distinctly remember thinking how fucking cool it was that he wrote a love song about a girl who loved him and he was like ... nah sorry
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:08 AM

a reverse long song
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Lee Diamond · 5:08 AM

true
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:08 AM

*love song
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Lee Diamond · 5:08 AM

he wrote the model for that kind of song
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:08 AM

like every love song is "I love her and she doesn't love me back"
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Lee Diamond · 5:08 AM

like Mike Nesmith's Different Drum?
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Lee Diamond · 5:08 AM

similar idea
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:08 AM

and this dude was like... "this chick loves me and Im like, go away!"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:09 AM

always gotta bring up the Monkees when we're tawking about serious musicians!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:09 AM

heheheheh
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Lee Diamond · 5:09 AM

It's the same idea!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:09 AM

kidding - love that song...
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Lee Diamond · 5:09 AM

is it not?
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:09 AM

yes it is
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:09 AM

because thats what the Monkees did
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:09 AM

"lets make a song like this one"
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:09 AM

hahah
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:09 AM

lets have hair like these guys
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Lee Diamond · 5:10 AM

sometimes the best songs are written that way!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:10 AM

I suppose
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:10 AM

ok dude, good Tawk. Goodnight Lou
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:10 AM

Thanks for the lessons
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Lee Diamond · 5:10 AM

indeed
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Lee Diamond · 5:10 AM

lets continue at an earlier hour someimte
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Lee Diamond · 5:10 AM

long day
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Lee Diamond · 5:11 AM

long Coma Art
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Lee Diamond · 5:11 AM

haha
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:11 AM

Long Coma Art
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:11 AM

LOL!
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Lee Diamond · 5:11 AM

LOL!
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Lee Diamond · 5:11 AM

cosmic!
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:11 AM

always comes back to Albert
Blake Ian

Blake Ian · 5:11 AM

peace
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Lee Diamond · 5:11 AM

why not