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Oct 13, 2012

Eric Goldsmith · 10:40 PM

The idea of letting go of my thoughts is what first drew me to meditation

Eric Goldsmith · 10:42 PM

and the fact that so many well known people had been doing it and finding it improved their overall life and in turn health

Eric Goldsmith · 10:43 PM

what first prompted you to learn more about meditation?

Blake Ian · 11:01 PM

Learning that so many highly successful people practice TM specifically was definitely a big selling point for me

Blake Ian · 11:02 PM

By the way sorry I was away when you began... I was mediating! haha

Blake Ian · 11:04 PM

So "letting go of thoughts" is an interesting way to put it. I think the biggest misconception going into this is that you STOP thinking. But the way you put it here is much more accurate

Blake Ian · 11:05 PM

The thoughts continue, but you detach from them.

Eric Goldsmith · 11:10 PM

hmm interesting.... thoughts continue but you detach from them

Blake Ian · 11:10 PM

Deepak had an interesting anology that I always liked. Or maybe it was Alan Watts? haha

Blake Ian · 11:11 PM

That thoughts are like a movie being projected on a screen

Blake Ian · 11:11 PM

we are not the images... we are the screen. We remain unchanged.

Blake Ian · 11:12 PM

I have experienced that while meditating pretty often... like a stream of something is passing by and I am watching it. Observing

Eric Goldsmith · 11:12 PM

me too

Blake Ian · 11:13 PM

That activity, twice every day, has definitely strengthened that muscle in my mind... and has allowed me to observe during the waking state as well.

Blake Ian · 11:13 PM

Which can be VERY useful! To myself... and perhaps more so to those around me! : )

Eric Goldsmith · 11:14 PM

agreed

Eric Goldsmith · 11:15 PM

i find that if i miss a day or two it is more difficult to let go of the thoughts.....sort of like an overfilled vacuum bag

Eric Goldsmith · 11:17 PM

the link took me here

Blake Ian · 11:20 PM

Haha yeah letting the practice go, definitely fills up the bag!

Eric Goldsmith · 11:21 PM

however, once i settle in to twice a day routinely again i find that i am easily able to move beyond observing my thoughts... at a ceetain point it becomes me and my mantra and all thoughts are settled - its sublime

Blake Ian · 11:21 PM

Sublime indeed

Blake Ian · 11:21 PM

and yes just like any practice... it gets easier with... PRACTICE

Blake Ian · 11:22 PM

but like you said... the more often you empty the bag, the less full it is each time you sit

Blake Ian · 11:22 PM

I find the same

Eric Goldsmith · 11:23 PM

the most comforting part of meditation is the ENERGY i get from it

Eric Goldsmith · 11:24 PM

replace comforting with surprising

Eric Goldsmith · 11:24 PM

positive mental attitude is a given when you awake

Eric Goldsmith · 11:25 PM

and the possibilities you can believe without actually seeing evidence is endless

Blake Ian · 11:27 PM

Yeah you know its funny because I was told about so many different benefits going in... and Ive realized different people experience the benefits in different order

Blake Ian · 11:27 PM

you spoke right away about the energy... which didn't come along for a while for me

Eric Goldsmith · 11:28 PM

from someone who has always thought "anything is possible" Meditation becomes an enabling mechanism which drives limits of possibility beyond 'anything' into EVERYTHING or more specifically everything you have NOT yet thought of...

Eric Goldsmith · 11:29 PM

i done some other forms of meditation before TM

Eric Goldsmith · 11:30 PM

the first time i was 18 or 19 in a college classroom and my health teacher asked us to close our eyes as she turned off the lights and we were to just let thoughts come and go..... it was almost impossible for me then...

Eric Goldsmith · 11:32 PM

helpful to my state of mind.

Blake Ian · 11:34 PM

Totally... I have had similar experiences... and I chalk it up to that fact that its always more difficult to really get the full benefits of something without a method, a teacher and a regular practice.

Blake Ian · 11:35 PM

and thats what TM brought for me. It is sustainable because the benefits are so clearly felt

Blake Ian · 11:35 PM

When I did Yoga for years, I always did it until I felt better, at which I point I stopped immediately haha

Blake Ian · 11:38 PM

I do the same with the gym to this day

Blake Ian · 11:38 PM

thought Im getting better

Eric Goldsmith · 11:39 PM

so TM is addictive

Eric Goldsmith · 11:40 PM

or is it the idea of submitting yourself to something bc the pain of NOT having it present throughout the day isnt fun

Blake Ian · 11:41 PM

Yes... I think addictive has a certain connotation. Addictive in my mind, and I might be wrong, refers to something that wil actually bring you down without it.

Blake Ian · 11:41 PM

I don't find that with meditation.

Blake Ian · 11:42 PM

The benefits are accumulative as opposed to a balance point which adjusts, and has negative results if you have to go without it.

Eric Goldsmith · 11:44 PM

if i keep to the idea of letting thoughts settle then without meditation thoughts begin to acuumulate and stress gets heavier, for me there is a negative affect taking place

Blake Ian · 11:46 PM

hmmm... true, but I guess what Im asking is weren't you doing that before

Blake Ian · 11:46 PM

actually much worse

Blake Ian · 11:46 PM

As opposed to landing in a worse state than you were before ever meditating, which I wouldn't say is the case right?

Blake Ian · 11:47 PM

you may notice now that you want that clarity, but I wouldn't say you have less clarity now if you miss meditation. In fact I'd say there is a permanent effect that you don't unlearn.

Eric Goldsmith · 11:47 PM

before was like a volatile stock mkt

Blake Ian · 11:47 PM

haha

Eric Goldsmith · 11:47 PM

im serious

Eric Goldsmith · 11:47 PM

volatility

Eric Goldsmith · 11:47 PM

up and down

Blake Ian · 11:48 PM

The Maharishi gave an analogy of turning a light on in a room with a dimmer...

Blake Ian · 11:49 PM

if you start with the slightest amount of light... that difference will never be equaled no matter how bright you get, the difference between No Light and Light will never be matched.

Blake Ian · 11:50 PM

Hence, the way you felt the FIRST mediation!

Eric Goldsmith · 11:50 PM

this assumes we start without light

Eric Goldsmith · 11:51 PM

im not sure i know the answer to my addiction question just yet....

Eric Goldsmith · 11:53 PM

can i highlight one line you wrote and bring it into my comment area so i can respond directly to it? or just like iut?

Eric Goldsmith · 11:53 PM

give it more attetnion

Eric Goldsmith · 11:53 PM

i tried copy and past but that doesnt work

Blake Ian · 11:55 PM

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Blake Ian · 11:55 PM

Interesting point you make thought

Blake Ian · 11:55 PM

*thought

Blake Ian · 11:55 PM

hahah THOUGH

Blake Ian · 11:55 PM

do we start with NO light... probably not.

Blake Ian · 11:57 PM

It's a very good point, because for sure we have experienced the feeling we get from meditating before learning.

Eric Goldsmith · 12:03 AM

going to sit

Blake Ian · 2:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Galen Dorian

“*taking bong rips and cigarette breaks throughout the day's activities to "recharge!" and "relax!"”

Blake Ian · 2:22 PM

You know Galen, your comment is extremely interesting to me (and apparently to the rest of the audience, since they voted it up for my co-host and I to see)

Blake Ian · 2:28 PM

I must admit that I used to "indulge" quite often actually, and since the first day of my practice I have not smoked marijuana a single time. Mostly because that specific urge has left me in a significant way, and I can attribute this directly to TM

Blake Ian · 2:32 PM

That same draining of stress, recalibrating and connection with creative channels... Looking back the fatal flaw of getting high, (for me at least) was lack of regularity, dosage, and the downsides that don't come along with TM.

Blake Ian · 2:33 PM

But I do not look down on it at all and I try to never judge the choices of others, especially ones that do not effect me. All I can speak of is my own experience, which is just that.

Blake Ian · 10:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dina Fein

“I would love to participate in this tawk, but I'm in the middle of a project which is demanding my full attention and making me nuts. As I write this, I have the feeling that I am making the argument for meditation!”

Blake Ian · 10:58 PM

Indeed Jane (IF that is your real name!) ; )

Blake Ian · 10:59 PM

It's a discussion I have had many times with people who are interested in meditation. Eric you will remember saying to me "I don't have 20 minutes twice a day bro"

Blake Ian · 11:00 PM

But now as you can see... that that 40 minutes creates so much more energy and efficiency in your day, that you net out UP a few hours, including the 40 minutes. Wouldn't you say?

Eric Goldsmith · 2:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from ed goldsmith

“definition of Faith...love what Eric just said...evidence not seen!”

Eric Goldsmith · 2:53 AM

nailed it big ed

Eric Goldsmith · 2:55 AM

i think your net UP a few hours comes from not smoking and spending the last 2 yrs feeding your passion building this.....thats just me, but yes u def makeup the 40 mins and then some

Blake Ian · 12:23 PM

Agreed, and that sets up a chicken or the egg question. Did I stop smoking and become more productive in the least two years because of TM, or did I learn TM because it was time to stop smoking and become more productive?

Eric Goldsmith · 12:53 PM

Both

Blake Ian · 1:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mscjvqtBWIQ

Eric Goldsmith · 1:21 AM

thats deep

Eric Goldsmith · 1:49 AM

this is fantastic http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/prisons.html#video=z97bWkObdkU

Blake Ian · 6:03 PM

I took our nephew Tyler to orientation at the TM center in Garden City yesterday... I let him know about all the cool people that practiced TM for most of their lives

Blake Ian · 6:04 PM

Like Steve Jobs and George Lucas... He thought it was pretty awesome that the guy who made Star Wars did TM and that Yoda was based on the Maharishi! :)

Eric Goldsmith · 11:20 PM

hello

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Jordan SudyOct 13, 2012, 1:36 PM

Well this looks like it is going to be interesting...

ed goldsmithOct 13, 2012, 2:45 PM

agreed!

ed goldsmithNov 18, 2012, 11:40 PM

Thinking Eric

Marlies FrometaNov 28, 2012, 3:39 PM

Michael ZinnNov 29, 2012, 10:29 PM

Is this thing on?

Jordan SudyFeb 18, 2013, 10:41 PM

Well looky here

ed goldsmithFeb 18, 2013, 11:18 PM

....so as i began to sit for a moment to detach from thought.... i get this email that tells me to STOP...there are some thoughts going on in the universe that i need to be plugged into! Aha...and look who it is coming from!

ed goldsmithFeb 18, 2013, 11:19 PM

thoughts never stop! it our choice to entertain them!

ed goldsmithFeb 18, 2013, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

definition of Faith...love what Eric just said...evidence not seen!

Galen DorianFeb 18, 2013, 11:48 PM

Gentleman, I've been super interested in TM for a while now, especially after talking to Blake and crew about how transformative it's been in their daily lives. Scroll up a bit - Eric - and elaborate a little more on feeling energized

Galen DorianFeb 18, 2013, 11:51 PM

these are behaviors that have not in fact enhanced the quality of my life in any way. In the end I think I feel MORE zapped and it's HARDER to get back into the groove of what I needed a break from!

Galen DorianFeb 18, 2013, 11:53 PM★ Spotlighted

*taking bong rips and cigarette breaks throughout the day's activities to "recharge!" and "relax!"

Dina FeinFeb 19, 2013, 12:16 AM★ Spotlighted

I would love to participate in this tawk, but I'm in the middle of a project which is demanding my full attention and making me nuts. As I write this, I have the feeling that I am making the argument for meditation!

Michael JaggerFeb 20, 2013, 3:25 PM

lala

Adam DenskyFeb 23, 2013, 4:59 AM

my GOLF is my meditation........nothing more relaxing