ER

More Waste of Time with ItsTheReal

Sep 10, 2013

JR
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Sep 10, 2013

Post Fashion Week, join us to discuss everything - EVERYTHING! - we've found dope, tight, hot, cool, and swaggy? in hip-hop fashion.

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Eric Rosenthal · 5:00 PM

Oh, hi
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 5:01 PM

Hi Eric! I'd ask how you're doing, but I assume you're fine since you're in the same room as me and we've already covered that at some point today. So, let's just get into today's topic: Hip Hop & Fashion: The Silent Killer.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:01 PM

Why don't we cut to the chase: yes, that was us sitting behind Cam'Ron at the Mark McNairy show
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:02 PM

And yes, he was wearing a brown button down shirt and horsebit loafers, according to GQ
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:03 PM

I'm not sure what horsebit loafers are, to be honest. Then again, I'm not sure what we were all doing at a fashion show, either.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:04 PM

obviously, we've known Cam for a while, going back to when we shot a sketch with him in like 2009
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:04 PM

and it's always good to see him, cause he'll greet us by saying, "SOUTH HARLEM!"
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

Horse bit is a charming way to describe shoes with holes in them

JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 5:04 PM

Oh.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:06 PM

Well, speaking as a fashion professional: I'd like to open up by asking what's been on my mind for the past year or so.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:06 PM

What is up with Versace and why?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:07 PM

Here's what was on my mind
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:08 PM

As a Consultant who's worked in both the music industries and the fashion industries, I'm excited about this "Tawk"!
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:08 PM

Candace, we're human clothes racks
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:08 PM

racks on racks on racks
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:09 PM

re: Versace, we've never been invited to their shows, and we're here to raise a stink about it today
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:10 PM

remember when Drake spun records at the Versace party a few years ago and A$AP Rocky showed up and presented Drake with a bottle?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:10 PM

and the next thing you know, they're on tour and songs together?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:10 PM

we have not had that moment
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:11 PM

There's still time, no? Like, is Fashion Week over? (And not like "over" like the New York Times is saying, because that's vvv obvious.)
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:11 PM

ha
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:11 PM

can we declare Hood By Air over?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:11 PM

I just declared it
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:11 PM

and it is so.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:11 PM

You did it! Hooray. I'm really tired of this "hip hop goth" look.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:12 PM

I like Travis $cott a lot as a person and as an artist, but man, that HBA or Been Trill stuff really is the worst
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:12 PM

#Been #Trill
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:13 PM

Thank you for correcting your typographical/desigual errors.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:13 PM

See, I don't mind people like Travis or Rocky or any of the Sad Boyz wearing those clothes
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:13 PM

Why
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:13 PM

What bothers me is when Jay Z is wearing them.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

Would you rather create a great hip hop song or a great hip hop look?

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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:14 PM

Like, why is Jay wearing an overlong shirt with NEW RULES written across the bottom in Latin?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:14 PM

Doesn't that feel really forced?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:14 PM

Aren't you like, Jay, it's okay to dress like an adult as opposed to what's cool -- you've gotten this far, etc?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:14 PM

I don't like any of them wearing it
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:15 PM

Well, sure.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:15 PM

In regards to Jordan's question, I'd rather create a great hip-hop song
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:15 PM

because the look is always gonna be secondary
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:15 PM

NO OFFENSE, DESIGNERS
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:16 PM

like, Kendrick dresses plainly
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:16 PM

wears his hat humorously high on his head
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:16 PM

but it's simple
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:16 PM

oh!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:16 PM

But he's a rapper-first kind of guy. When you look at people like Trinidad Jame-shift-4...he made a great song but fashion is the motive.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:16 PM

lemme just add, LEATHER IS OVER
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:16 PM

LEATHER #BEEN #OVER
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:17 PM

Didn't something happen at the VMAs that made you say that?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:17 PM

Was Macklemore wearing leather?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:17 PM

maybe
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:17 PM

Did Miley Cyrus finger leather?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:17 PM

it's happened at the BET Awards, the VMAs, and at the shows we went to this weekend
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:18 PM

I'm really curious as to how this cycle of clothing got to be smaller, for instance, how did grunge come back so quickly?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:18 PM

Yea. I just don't know anyone who wears the leather look well. Well, besides Eddie Murphy.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:18 PM

like, wearing flannel around your waists wasn't cool when I was doing it in middle school
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:18 PM

See: Cudi
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

See: Kanye
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

etc
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

It wasn't? I feel like it wasn't cool when *I* was wearing it in middle school.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

Jeff, it wasn't
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

sorry
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

sorry to break it to you here, with all these people reading
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

Oh wait, that was a typo. I didn't wear it, I just meant I was there.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

right
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nathan Hankins

But you didn't wear leather pants with that look.

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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:20 PM

First they came for the flannel wearers, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't wearing flannel.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:21 PM

So, can we revisit this high fashion/high art infatuation? I think, with MCHG, Jay tried to speak to this entire point by saying that hiphop has ALWAYS been kindred with the art scene. But one got left behind in the gutter. So, this isn't "new"
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:22 PM

I'm really bummed out by the high fashion/high art thing, because no one's convincing me that there's any knowledge behind it. Like, Jay/Swizz/whoever else all name-check the two artists they understand (Basquiat and Warhol). And they name-check
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:22 PM

To death.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:22 PM

And I'm sure it's the same thing with fashion (see: Versace).
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:22 PM

I will say this about the art scene connection, I loved that Jay had Fab 5 Freddy in the video
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:23 PM

paying tribute
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:23 PM

Yeah, but it's like Basquiat and Versace and Fab 5 Freddy are all the new Cîroc.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:23 PM

That's my problem with rap at the moment: everything is a commodity.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:23 PM

Everyone should be their own brand
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:23 PM

or at least not co-opt it from someone else
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:23 PM

Kanye does him.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:23 PM

2 Chainz does him.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:24 PM

Well, Kanye does him by taking elements from everyone else.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:24 PM

"Good artists whatever and great artists steal"
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:24 PM

I could do without the people trying to be A$APs when they're not
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:24 PM

I sort-of wish I was an A$AP, but that's another thing.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:25 PM

I think we're not too far away from everyone having their own line and repping it all the time
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:25 PM

like, it used to be a joke
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:25 PM

See, I feel like that was the 90s.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:25 PM

And - sure enough - it's coming back.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:25 PM

in terms of every rapper had their own clothing line, liquor, etc
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:25 PM

When Busta had Bushi; Wu Tang had Wu Wear; Diddy had Sean John
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:25 PM

yeah, I understand
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:26 PM

Right, I totally agree. I just think that now the marketplace has flattened out to a place where those kind of brands are sustainable.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:26 PM

Nelly didn't wear Apple Bottoms though
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:26 PM

Their business model was all messed up. He was making sales by swiping cards through girls' butts.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:26 PM

this is true
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:26 PM

Nelly was WAY ahead of Square
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:26 PM

Ha!
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:27 PM

There's a difference between style and fashion. We can't always be cynical about its place in hip-hop and the buying power of both audiences. Run DMC/Adidas/MSG 1986, anyone?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:27 PM

Dammit, Candace, stop making good points!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:28 PM

I think the problem lies in the fear everyone has of being an individual.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:28 PM

that's right, Jeff
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:28 PM

BE YOURSELF, YOU SHEEP
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 5:28 PM

Where it's necessary to glom yourself onto Versace, because Versace is the proven brand (not yourself).
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

Did you see diddy at burning man? He's bringing back the glove.

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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:29 PM

Like, this is weird to me.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:29 PM

Why is Diddy at Burning Man?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:29 PM

wait wait wait
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:29 PM

Sorry.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:29 PM

this is about #NYFW
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:29 PM

Diddy-Burning Man can be another Tawk
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:30 PM

but Diddy sitting on a runway is another
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:30 PM

lemme ask you this, Jeff
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:30 PM

Yesterday, I walked into that McNairy show, ready to wear my sunglasses indoors for the whole event
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:30 PM

Right.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:30 PM

then you pointed out to me that everyone else had taken their sunglasses off
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:30 PM

Two days ago, but yes.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:31 PM

right
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:31 PM

and then I succumbed to peer pressure and took the sunglasses off
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:31 PM

am I not an individual
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:31 PM

and if I was an individual in wearing them inside, was I just a stupid-looking individual?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:32 PM

I need help with this, 48 hours after the fact
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:32 PM

But that's because you know how stupid people look when they wear sunglasses indoors.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:32 PM

Are you okay?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:33 PM

I need sunglasses to hide my fashion tears
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:33 PM

Warby Parker! sunglasses
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:33 PM

Man, we were just getting somewhere and then you had to ruin everything with that weird tangent.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:33 PM

how so
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:34 PM

I think we were talking about how rappers latch themselves to brands to up their own stocks
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tom Lorenzo

Jimmy Goldstein: fashion icon or fashion novelty?

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Eric Rosenthal · 5:35 PM

Tom: he's a fashion icon, but not even in the same league as Walt Clyde Frazier
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:35 PM

Eric, you could've worn your sunglasses to a gallery opening
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:35 PM

Candace: I should have just gone with it
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:35 PM

Okay, say Trinidad Jame-shift-4 starts dressing like A$AP Rocky.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

yeah
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

Because everyone else - B.o.B., Big Sean - already is.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

that would be terrible
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

But is it any better than what he's currently wearing?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

Trinidad?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

yes it is
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

Which is, I dunno, a Jimi Hendrix costume that he bought from Ricky's.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

Trinidad should do him!
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:36 PM

sort-of, Jeff
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:37 PM

no one else is flattening their hair like he is
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:37 PM

Andre?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:37 PM

He's still around?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:37 PM

Old Snoop? (As opposed to OLD Snoop?)
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:37 PM

ha
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:38 PM

Here's the thing
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:38 PM

At the Isaora show, we were standing on line
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:38 PM

NO BIG DEAL
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:38 PM

STARS: JUST LIKE US
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:39 PM

and some guy there had leather pants, a black leather Miami Heat Just Don hat (I thought it was fake, but it was real), and a red flannel shirt tied around his waist
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:39 PM

and a long tee
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:39 PM

WHAT IS HE GOING FOR
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:39 PM

See, that's the problem with 'style' as opposed to 'fashion', I guess, which is what Candace was saying.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:39 PM

HYPEBEAST HAS GONE TOO FAR, etc.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:39 PM

is that fahionable?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:40 PM

we weren't fashionable, right?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:40 PM

I have no idea. I think it shows that you care too much. All I know is: I love it when it rains on hypebeasts.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nathan Hankins

It's not anything. Just a bunch of things all together.

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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:40 PM

I love love love seeing a pair of Red Yeezys ruined by a dirty puddle.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:41 PM

shoes are not meant to be worn, Jeff
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:41 PM

we performed down at Bonnaroo 2012, and that there is a huge farm with nothing but dust blwing all around
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:41 PM

and what'd we do after the last day?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:42 PM

with our adidas Stan Smiths??
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:42 PM

DUMPED THEM IN THE TRASH, BEFORE WE EVEN MADE IT TO THE AIRPORT
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:42 PM

Burner shoes
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:42 PM

I lost a good pair of Nike Terminator Hi's to that garbage can.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:42 PM

true
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:43 PM

I mean, we say the same thing about the Tory Burch flats. It's all a trend that people use to tout their tax bracket or level of cool
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:43 PM

CC: Nike CC: adidas
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:43 PM

Candace: And Tory Burch was dating Lyor Cohen, last I knew
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:43 PM

I'm surprised we got through the recession without rappers turning their backs on brand names.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:43 PM

CONSPIRACY?!
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:43 PM

that's a good point Jeff
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:44 PM

And now - QUICK FASHION POINT - the runways are showing that Alexander Wang and others are bringing back the big logos of the 90s.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:44 PM

Hip-Hop has become so mainstream and valuable that brands will give and give and give so that the kids will attribute "cool" to them
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:45 PM

Wake me up with Ricky Hil is wearing Tommy Hil again
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:45 PM

I want Ricky Hil to wear his father's skin like a jacket.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:45 PM

that's strange
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nathan Hankins

Wearing money is the dream though right? The one thing that big-rap can't shake?

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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:45 PM

Yea, I guess I'm making a Macklemore argument of sorts.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:45 PM

So, forget it.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:46 PM

Nathan: wearing money is The-Dream
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:46 PM

Like, "I like my rappers to embrace 'non-commercial' values" or whatever. Kill me.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:47 PM

I don't care if they wear Versace, just make it their own
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:47 PM

I don't care if they wear Versace, just don't show up wearing the same Versace to the red carpet.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:47 PM

ha
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:47 PM

DJ Drama, J Cole and the other guy
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:47 PM

The Other Guy would be a good rapper name.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:47 PM

TRU
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:48 PM

think about how much 2 Chainz did for Try Religion
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:48 PM

he knows how much he did for them
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:48 PM

Right, he resurrected that brand.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:48 PM

Tru
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:48 PM

He and Chief Keef.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:48 PM

Hooray for that!
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:48 PM

(I'm surprised how much I know about what rappers wear.)
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

yeah
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

(Maybe I should go to therapy?)
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

Imagine if Rocawear as we all knew and loved it, had a big runway show?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

like in today's NYFW
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

Oh, that'd be amazing.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

it'd be epic
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

Who would walk for them?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

with Dame and Jay
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

besides us?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

Bleek
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:49 PM

BESIDES US
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

Rihanna
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

I bet Jay Electronica would do the closing look.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

Kanye
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

Cole
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

Cole wouldn't.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

Come on.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

why not?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

he sure would
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

I bet he'd want to, but I bet they wouldn't want him to.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

they absolutely would
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

J. Cole is not a model.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

is Pusha?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:50 PM

come on
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:51 PM

No, but Pusha at least has some (LOLOLOL) "swag"
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:51 PM

Cole knows how to walk in one direction and then back
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:51 PM

Yes. That's a good way to describe his music, to me.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:51 PM

"Capable."
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:51 PM

and don;t kid yourself about Pusha's swag right now
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:52 PM

he's a great guy and can rap better than 99% of the guys out here, but hot he is not
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:52 PM

That's true.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:52 PM

and this comes the day before his listening party
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:52 PM

which, might I add, I'm looking forward to
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 5:52 PM

Yes. But that's also because we're in the dead zone before Drake's album drops.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:52 PM

it's interesting to me how he's tried to cross over into that Paris world
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:52 PM

And because it's something to do.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

Pusha
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

but he wants to remain "dangerous"
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

Yea, but that's Kanye's influence.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

and of the streets
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

right
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

And as we all know, Kanye is not infallible.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

but it's hard to do both
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

and be accepted by both
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

The man made Ryan Leslie rap.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

thankfully, we did not see Ryan Leslie at any shows
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

that man takes himself WAY too seriously
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:53 PM

Black Mozart
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

his self-proclaimed title
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

Ugh. It's fashionable to have a huge ego.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

great producer
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

good singer
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

bad rapper
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

the worst.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

not-great dresser
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

What rapper would you like to have their own clothing line?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

not Wayne
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

Who doesn't currently, I mean.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

right
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:54 PM

Well, yea. Wayne's should be taken away from him.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:55 PM

And given to a 12-year-old.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:55 PM

Because that'd be a real FUBU aesthetic
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:55 PM

for 12-year-old Kohl's shoppers, by a 12-year-old Kohl's shopper
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:56 PM

I keep thinking of all the rappers who do have lines and most make me shudder
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:56 PM

remember Eminem's line?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:56 PM

Jim Jones' Vampire Life
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:56 PM

Busta has Bushi
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:56 PM

Juelz had a bandana line
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:56 PM

G-Unit had good shoes but terrrrible clothes.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:57 PM

and a store uptown
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:57 PM

TI has Akoo
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:57 PM

But I mean, the mid-2000s were also just bad for clothing anyway.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:57 PM

Snoop had Snoop Dogg Clothing
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:57 PM

I'm just thinking about all the trucker hats and wide-legged jeans.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:57 PM

Birdman's various Lugz
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:57 PM

and J. Lo glasses.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:57 PM

Fat Joe had Lugz.
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

Funk Flex had Lugz.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

doesn't Luda have a line?
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

Probably. "The Chris Bridges Collection."
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

Wale has a headwear line
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

oh
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

Is that true?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

I'd like to see Ross' clothing
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

honestly
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

What would it look like?
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

huge, unbuttoned
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

floral, I imagine
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:58 PM

lots of money signs
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:59 PM

He does love #art.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:59 PM

and all made of fake fabrics
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Jeff Rosenthal · 5:59 PM

So it'd look like a Pen & Pixel cover.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:59 PM

ha ha ha
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:59 PM

this was fun
JR

Jeff Rosenthal · 5:59 PM

I'd probably like that. I wouldn't wear it, but I'd like it.
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Eric Rosenthal · 5:59 PM

thanks to everyone who hung out with us
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Eric Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

I'm Eric
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Jeff Rosenthal · 6:00 PM

I'm Jeff. And thanks for Tawk™-ing with us!