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Rampage Killers:How do We Stop Them?

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May 28, 2014

Following the latest killing spree to hit the news, the perpetual question of how to stop these rampage killings has risen to the forefront yet again! Elliot Roger stabbed three and shot six to death before taking his own life. Why is this trend so prevalent in America? Join JD and Lizz as they discuss the tragedy and speculate on how to stop the madness...

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:00 PM

Good afternoon...

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:01 PM

Today we want to address a continuing problem in America today...rampage killings

Lizz Taylor · 7:01 PM

Hello

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:01 PM

Hey Lizz...

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:02 PM

I had just begun to talk about rampage killings and what America should do to curtail this awful issue

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:02 PM

I know that you are a gun enthusiast...

Lizz Taylor · 7:02 PM

It is an incredibly horrible issue that needs to be addressed in a different light. Everyone wants to blame the fun.

Lizz Taylor · 7:03 PM

Gun. Autocorrect. Smh

Lizz Taylor · 7:03 PM

That would be like blaming a fork for making you fat

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:03 PM

The ironic thing is, that many of the rampage, mass murderers are using legal, registered weapons

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:03 PM

I blame pie...

Lizz Taylor · 7:04 PM

The issue is the PEOPLE! They are not getting the help they need. People are too afraid to address the issue and look what happens. This Cali guy gave us lots of heads up!!!

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:04 PM

That is a sad situation and the entire reason I wanted to address this in a Tawk.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:05 PM

This kid literally cried out for help for weeks prior to his mass murder rampage the other day/

Lizz Taylor · 7:05 PM

Registered or not, guns will always be available to everyone. Laws will continue to be broken. Criminals do not care about laws. Citizens who are mentally stable and competent follow laws.

Lizz Taylor · 7:06 PM

And no one helped him. No one. And now people are dead.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:06 PM

Elliot Roger...a seemingly healthy young man...snaps

Lizz Taylor · 7:06 PM

Operative word: seemingly

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:06 PM

How can that be predicted?

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:06 PM

Exactly...think about Columbine!!!

Lizz Taylor · 7:07 PM

You just said he cried out for help. Someone help him for Pete's sake! I didn't know the kid.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:07 PM

We, generally speaking, need to learn the indications of mental instability

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:07 PM

and aggresive and homosidal behaviors

Lizz Taylor · 7:08 PM

It all boils down to people being too sensitive. They don't want to address the issue bc they may hurt someone's feelings. More wussification of America.

Lizz Taylor · 7:08 PM

True

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:08 PM

I mean when Elliot Roger went out and legally bought 3 guns and over 400 rounds of ammo...maybe that was aBIG sign of trouble

Lizz Taylor · 7:08 PM

Rampage killings seem to be increasing rapidly. Killings in general.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:09 PM

Interestingly Lizz, rampage killing has been going on in America since the early 1800's

Lizz Taylor · 7:09 PM

That's true, but I know a LOT of people who have ten times that much ammo in their homes right now. In my neighborhood. Good people. Not killers. What about them?

Lizz Taylor · 7:09 PM

Yes but the frequency of them occurring is peaking.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:10 PM

Do they behave like they might have issues or like "regular" law abiding citizens?

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:10 PM

That's the media, Lizz...you know rampage killings get sensationalized...

Lizz Taylor · 7:10 PM

They work. They raise kids. They drink beer on the weekend and cook steaks on the grill. They take their kids to the beach and make sure they do their homework.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:11 PM

Not to say that it isn't happening more often and more tragically...

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:11 PM

Exactly....law abiding citizens.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:11 PM

This Virgin Killer was that until the other day...

Lizz Taylor · 7:11 PM

And if I were in a location where someone was rampage killing people, I would pray to God one of those people are there with me because I would act.

Lizz Taylor · 7:12 PM

And the reason I would act is bc I have a permit that allows me to carry my gun in public.

Lizz Taylor · 7:12 PM

And hopefully I would not be convicted of murder and be able to save people's and children's lives.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:13 PM

Self defense goes a long way in a situation like that Lizz...

Lizz Taylor · 7:13 PM

I pray that never happens, but I'm prepared if it does. Mentally too.

Lizz Taylor · 7:13 PM

Yep

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:14 PM

They were calling this a "drive-by" shooting at first, then they found the three stabbing victims, dead at Elliot Roger's home

Lizz Taylor · 7:14 PM

That would be quite a situation to deal with and get through, but I would be able to sleep at night knowing I did the right thing and saved lives.

Lizz Taylor · 7:14 PM

Once again, he gave us all a heads up. People chose not to act.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:15 PM

You just don't know who might snap...the stranger among us...you dig

Lizz Taylor · 7:15 PM

I dig. Stable people don't snap like that though. Not typically.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:16 PM

Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, Aurora Colorado...just in the past few years we have seen many seemingly "normal" people snap and go on rampage killing sprees...

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:16 PM

It's much simpler to understand or dismiss when it's an obviously crazy person

Lizz Taylor · 7:16 PM

We may think they "snapped," but it was brewing for a long time with them and people chose to look the other way.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:17 PM

Exactly, in MN there was a young man who killed a family the wore a shirt in court that read "Killer" on the front...obviously a sick puppy

Lizz Taylor · 7:17 PM

Yep. I remember that.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:17 PM

The Virgin Killer didn't give us the chance to know his reasons...

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:17 PM

or his insanity

Lizz Taylor · 7:18 PM

He was aging he didn't understand why girls wouldn't date him in his YouTube videos.

Lizz Taylor · 7:18 PM

*saying

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:18 PM

I've gone years without a date and didn't buy a gun because of it

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:18 PM

or kill people because the girls don't like me

Lizz Taylor · 7:18 PM

Lol. Amen!

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:19 PM

Virginia Tech...that grad student killed all those people over social crap too

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:19 PM

so could it be love or the lack there of that causes certain people to become killing monsters?

Lizz Taylor · 7:20 PM

Yeah. Kids are mean. Bullying has gone on forever though! Now kids have an easier time retaliating...

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:20 PM

I bullied a lot of kids and I'm fine

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:20 PM

lol

Lizz Taylor · 7:21 PM

These killers are missing something inside of them. They feel as though they cannot be loved for whatever reason. Instead of sorting these issues out with a professional, they go on the defensive and become overly aggressive.

Lizz Taylor · 7:21 PM

Shame on you!

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:21 PM

I wondered if you would catch that....lol

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:21 PM

I think bullying is another issue for another tawk.

Lizz Taylor · 7:22 PM

Exactly. It's a snowball effect that's out of control. It all started to be exacerbated when people started having babies too young!!!

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:22 PM

I don't believe that we are able to stop rampage killings while maintaining many of our constitutional rights

Lizz Taylor · 7:23 PM

My generation started it. Jerks!

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:23 PM

As a gun owner yourself, you have to agree. denying law abiding citizens the right to bear arms will do nothing but leave law abiding citizens unprotected

Lizz Taylor · 7:23 PM

Agreed. No freedom = no mass murders (by the citizens at least)

Lizz Taylor · 7:23 PM

Exactly. We have to take more steps to get them out of the hands of criminals and into the hands of competent citizens.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:24 PM

The problem is that typically, the mass murderer is a sociopath anyway

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:24 PM

I don't think that Elliot Roger was that...

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:24 PM

He killed himself

Lizz Taylor · 7:24 PM

The field of psychology has gotten a little blurred too. The pharmaceutical companies are controlling everything and pushing docs to prescribe medication instead of seeking the root of the problem.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:25 PM

He knew he was doing something wrong unlike a typical sociopath

Lizz Taylor · 7:25 PM

Medication for a mental illness is like putting a bandaid on a broken arm.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:25 PM

you and the metaphors...

Lizz Taylor · 7:26 PM

Lol

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:26 PM

You are exactly right...we can't just medicate, we need to rehabilitate the socially and mentally challenged.

Lizz Taylor · 7:26 PM

Think about how marijuana is "regulated" yet people everywhere still use it.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:27 PM

We no longer put mentally challenged children in our attics...it is no longer a social stygma to have mental issues

Lizz Taylor · 7:27 PM

But it is!!!

Lizz Taylor · 7:27 PM

That's the problem!!!! People joke about it

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:27 PM

Somewhat but nothing like it's been in history

Lizz Taylor · 7:28 PM

People should believe it is something to be ashamed of and should seek help to get it under control before everyone finds out their "crazy."

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:28 PM

I believe we're making stides in the right direction...awareness, communication

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:28 PM

So our conclusion here is that the only way to address rampage killings is to go deep into the mind of the killer before he/she kills

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:29 PM

How do we know who that might be though?

Lizz Taylor · 7:29 PM

But are the docs actually going to work with these people or just prescribe meds to turn them into zombies indefinitely?

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:29 PM

Zombies...another Tawk!!

Lizz Taylor · 7:29 PM

There are signs.

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:30 PM

Certainly...the problem isn't with the illness it's with ignorance and selfishness...I don't want to get involved, they are crazy

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:30 PM

Or I'm not qualified to help him...maybe all the Virgin Killer needed was an ear or a shoulder

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:30 PM

not literally...to listen or to cry on

Lizz Taylor · 7:30 PM

Exactly. Lol

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:31 PM

Hannibal the Cannibal flashbacks!

Lizz Taylor · 7:31 PM

People need to vent. Playing sports is an example. Exercise. Release those endorphins!

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:31 PM

Or in the case of Elliot Roger...buy a hooker!!!

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:31 PM

Instead of a gun!!

Lizz Taylor · 7:32 PM

Lol. Whatever happen to "pity sex?"

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:32 PM

you can get a LOT of prostitute for the price of three guns!!

Lizz Taylor · 7:32 PM

Very true

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:33 PM

Anyway, nice tawk, Lizz...I look forward to doing it again soon...a tawk, I mean. lol

Lizz Taylor · 7:33 PM

Ha! Catch ya later!

Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 7:33 PM

ciao