Jordan Birnbaum

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Shift Happens!

Nov 13, 2013·34 visitors

Rich Hagberg

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Nov 13, 2013

I mean, how many times have you heard about an imminent shift in the human paradigm. Is it a shift in consciousness? A shift in paradigm? A shift in ability? Or is it all a bunch of bullshift? Rich and I Tawk it out.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:15 AM

Mr. Hagberg, I presume?

Rich Hagberg · 2:15 AM

Yes, it is I :-)

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:15 AM

My man! Welcome to your first Tawk!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:15 AM

on stage, I mean…

Rich Hagberg · 2:15 AM

Hey Thanks!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:15 AM

so you and I, interestingly enough, are very much 21st Century friends…

Rich Hagberg · 2:16 AM

Indeed

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:16 AM

in that we only know one another through social media

Rich Hagberg · 2:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Looking forward to this!”

Rich Hagberg · 2:16 AM

Yes, this is true at this point

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:16 AM

so teaser alert -at the end of this I'm going to ask about social media causing a shift

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:17 AM

is we even figure out what "shift" means

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:17 AM

So let's start there. When you think of "the shift" describe what you're thinking of.

Rich Hagberg · 2:18 AM

Shift.... if i were to take a guess, i'd say I think of a change, but I observe many references of the word 'shift' connected/associated with a shift in consciousness.... which is what I also often picture.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:19 AM

so we're saying the shift is in consciousness, but there could be many otter shifts, right?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:19 AM

politically, environmentally

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I had to refresh my browser to see the conversation!”

Rich Hagberg · 2:19 AM

Yes, the word shift is often a reference of change I would say.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:19 AM

oh dear I hope it's working now!

Rich Hagberg · 2:20 AM

Hi Seth! Glad you made it!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:20 AM

So let's explore possible shifts a little bit. Is a shift in consciousness just a realignment of priorities? Morally?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:20 AM

Or does it mean we can start using new powers to gain new perceptions of reality and interaction?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:20 AM

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“This should be interesting!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:21 AM

I know - they are good questions, if I say so myself.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:21 AM

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“Let's get right down to shift”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:22 AM

You really can have a lot of fun with the word shift.

Rich Hagberg · 2:22 AM

Yes. There has been much chatter, and dedication to the subject of change of consciousness.... right now, and I am not sure if I can describe it accurately, but a sense or feeling that something is out of order, something does not feel right.

Rich Hagberg · 2:22 AM

with the world as we currently view it

Rich Hagberg · 2:23 AM

Yes Jordan! We can have fun with 'shift'!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:23 AM

so I could see a shift in which we all begin to care for our species, our planet, check our aggression and evolve into an ideal civilization

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I think there are many levels to "the shift" and not everyone is shifting in exactly the same way.”

Rich Hagberg · 2:24 AM

Good point Kimba! I often wonder if that is what seperates us, maybe prevents a sdhift...

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:24 AM

definitely true - as with everything it's infinitely complex

Rich Hagberg · 2:24 AM

Agreed Jordan!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:24 AM

so if we evolve towards that perfect civilization, there's nothing magical about that

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

and by magical I mean things like telepathy and inter dimensional travel

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“There is a spiritual shift called "ascension".”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“There is a shift in consciousness as in taking care of each other and the planet.”

Rich Hagberg · 2:25 AM

I found this video by Christopher Greene... and I believe he has some very valid points & observations.

Rich Hagberg · 2:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMUGD5nZL6o

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:25 AM

I feel like we could get there on pure logic.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:26 AM

I think it is logical to realize that unless we care about each other and the planet, we're doomed.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Yes, we have to not only care about each other, but the critters, and the planet.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:27 AM

I don't even need morality to arrive at that

Rich Hagberg · 2:27 AM

So Jordan, would you agree that when logic & feeling combined could provide this solution to our issues on this planet?

Rich Hagberg · 2:28 AM

Nice!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:28 AM

Rich I would hope that to be the case. Mind you, I would love a spiritual awakening as much as the next guy. Believe me, I want that. I just don't think we NEED it to get there.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“"Shift" is such a huge paradigm.”

Rich Hagberg · 2:29 AM

But yet there are so many different views, we are at this point, still viewing the world as we are all separate..

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:29 AM

so broad, so many impliucations

Rich Hagberg · 2:29 AM

Yes.

Rich Hagberg · 2:30 AM

so until we all logically agree we are all connected?

Rich Hagberg · 2:31 AM

Then the rest may follow?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:31 AM

well I think that level of agreement, universal acknowledgement of our connectivity, would have massive implications.but we're VERY far away from that

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:31 AM

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“I think we need to physically shift as well. Space travel would be a great thing, besides it's too damn crazy and overcrowded down here on Earth”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:32 AM

I have to admit my entire vision of the future comes from Star Trek…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:32 AM

so I'm down with the space travel

Rich Hagberg · 2:32 AM

Times running out, many can feel this... we need to close the gap before it's too late for this planet and all who inhabit it.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Maybe we need a mass spiritual awakening to get us all on the same page so that we can evolve and move forward.”

Rich Hagberg · 2:33 AM

I'm with you guys too! Space travel & exploration could be a spark to bring us closer together!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:33 AM

@kimbra maybe that's where the spiritual and the logical meets

Rich Hagberg · 2:34 AM

Indeed, there has been many who have brought that up Kimba

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:34 AM

I had also kind of hoped climate change would be a spark for us to come together, but that's not working out too well so far…

Rich Hagberg · 2:35 AM

Maybe the challenge is in an event, or in the stars.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Sadly, it seems to take a tragedy to bring people together. I remember after 9/11, people dropped their guards and looked past race, religion, politics and nearly everything else--at least for the time being”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“There is the shift that we consciously take - moving towards positivity and then there are the ones that might happen - "The Event"”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:35 AM

I had those in waiting whenever we broached the subject of "what needs to happen to bring it to fruition?"

Rich Hagberg · 2:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Have you guys heard of Space weather, and how the climates of all of the planets in the solar system are changing, not just ours?”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:37 AM

never heard of that, but Republicans would like it because then we couldn't blame global warming on humanity

Rich Hagberg · 2:37 AM

We need to quit fighting with each other, and work towards healing this planet for starters.

Rich Hagberg · 2:38 AM

We are in a cycle of the earth that has repeated itself before, this is nothing new, but may have sped it up.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:38 AM

OK so what gets us there? Is it devastation from war or natural disaster or disease? do we have to be brought to our knees for this kind of positive transformation?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:39 AM

or can we get to this ascended place in a happier way?

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:40 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Darn Exxon Mobil is everywhere, just can't stop them!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:40 AM

Seth I just got this -the space weather thing. very funny, dude.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Posted it a while ago JB”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:41 AM

took me a minute

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:41 AM

I'm busy here

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“I was saying it seemed out of sync with the chat now because it was posted so long ago :)”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:41 AM

yeah but I gave it context

Rich Hagberg · 2:42 AM

Funny how that worked out!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:42 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I missed it too.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:42 AM

see, it was very subtle. but very funny!

Rich Hagberg · 2:42 AM

Jordan I believe we could do things in a positive manner, but we must chose to do so.

Rich Hagberg · 2:43 AM

Very Subtle indeed.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:43 AM

Rich - we're going to come back to this, but first:

Rich Hagberg · 2:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Guess it also brings up the question as to whether or not any of the religious prophecies will come true”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“That also our magnetosphere is diminishing, which would open up our planet for some sort of major change via an X-flare from the sun or a gamma ray burst. It's an interesting line of thinking.”

Rich Hagberg · 2:44 AM

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:44 AM

@kimbra -I love this! it's like the beginning of every superhero story. Maybe we'll all get superpowers!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:44 AM

what do you think Rich? You want a gamma ray burst and see what happens?

Rich Hagberg · 2:45 AM

Wouldn't that be kick ass (having super powers) But with great power...

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:45 AM

comes great responsibility

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:45 AM

so maybe that's what we need for the shift

Rich Hagberg · 2:46 AM

some kind of event beyond control of the population of earth... hmmm. Maybe so.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:46 AM

there's also the whole alien invasion possibility

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:46 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“If gamma rays start striking the Earth, it won't be a shift, it will be holy sh*t!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:47 AM

hard to worry about free trade agreements when there's an alien ship blowing up your mansion…

Rich Hagberg · 2:47 AM

Seth, I tend to agree, not so sure i'd want to experience that. However Jordan, the universe is capable of comfortably containing all of life's paradoxes...

Rich Hagberg · 2:48 AM

@ Jordan - yeah! HAHAHAHAHA!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Telepathy, Empathy, Telekinesis and, wait for it, TELEPORTATION!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:48 AM

@Kimbra - now that would be AWESOME!

Rich Hagberg · 2:49 AM

Indeed Kimbra, you speak of very cool things!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:49 AM

Interestingly, there is one power on your list that we technically already have, it's just in terribly short supply - empathy

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:49 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Tellememore Kimba...this sounds interesting”

Rich Hagberg · 2:49 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“The universe is but not sure about the plants and animals”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:49 AM

@Kimbra brought the goods tonight!

Rich Hagberg · 2:50 AM

She has!

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I'm speechless at the moment ... trying to decide which of my multi-dimensions to speak from.”

Rich Hagberg · 2:50 AM

Good point Seth.

Rich Hagberg · 2:50 AM

LOL

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:50 AM

Let's discuss empathy for a minute

Rich Hagberg · 2:51 AM

That would be a good start.

Rich Hagberg · 2:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I think on a third dimensional level we've got to get humanity's shit together.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:51 AM

I mean, empathy is kind of behind everything I think about when I think about a shift

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:52 AM

if we all could feel what other people feel

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:52 AM

it would provide us a sense of the connectivity we talked about earlier.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Oh stop being such a bleeding heart leftist JB :)”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:53 AM

the heart wants what the heart wants

Rich Hagberg · 2:53 AM

Exactly, then for starters, there would be more of an understanding of what it means to treat others how you'd like to be treated

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:53 AM

And Empathy is available to all of us! Maybe not at the grocery store, but it's out there!

Rich Hagberg · 2:54 AM

And maybe then we can extend that to connect with all of life's creation.

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:54 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Lol, some sarcasm since we share similar views”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:54 AM

of course seth you're further left than me…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:54 AM

friggin hippie

Rich Hagberg · 2:54 AM

Indeed Jordan, but then we need to agree to Choose it....

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“lol, no couldn't be further left of you”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:55 AM

let's just say we hang out on the same corner

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:56 AM

So Rich -you're totally right. What we need now is to help people choose empathy. But shit, at least it's real. It isn't fairy dust!

Rich Hagberg · 2:58 AM

Exactly.... this isn't just new-ager fairy dust blow it up your bunghole B.S., there is a very real, pragmatic side to this, when you can look past the foofy words...

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Empathy is not easy though!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I winder if that's why people choose not to feel it?”

Rich Hagberg · 2:58 AM

FEAR

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:59 AM

well, from a more practical point of view, there are probably ways that we can work on strengthening empathy within the community

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:59 AM

through messaging, media, the arts…

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Sometimes it's easier to start with compassion and move into empathy.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:00 AM

Sounds good to me

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:00 AM

I wish Rachel was here, we could ask her about organization psychology practices to boost empathy

Rich Hagberg · 3:01 AM

Kimba, if I were to dare say, every derivative of every emotion that we may be driven by in our decision making comes down to two main emotions.... LOVE and FEAR... you can look at a decision, and break it down to this level.

Rich Hagberg · 3:01 AM

I wish Rachel was here for this one too...

Rich Hagberg · 3:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“But I try to walk my talk.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Or as psychologists call it Rich, pain vs. pleasure principle”

Rich Hagberg · 3:02 AM

We must all continue to practice this...

Rich Hagberg · 3:03 AM

Seth, yes. That is another way... there's always another way.

Rich Hagberg · 3:03 AM

ok, always...scratch that... there usually is another way, we just need to be open to seeing it

Rich Hagberg · 3:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“But let's not be airy fairy about it - stay grounded : )”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:04 AM

OK - I have a new twist. You ready?

Rich Hagberg · 3:04 AM

being grounded is important.

Rich Hagberg · 3:04 AM

Go Jordan!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:05 AM

What if we've already shifted? I mean a few of us. And the rest of the idiots are slowing things down?

Rich Hagberg · 3:05 AM

Everyone who is listening, please join in....

Rich Hagberg · 3:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“So let's ask the expert...Rich when do you see the shift happening?”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:05 AM

I mean I have to say, without sounding arrogant, I feel a bit shifted.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Jordan, I think this at least once a day.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:06 AM

empathy in action, my friend

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:06 AM

PS -it's WAY better to feel shifted than shafted

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I feel shifted, but I know I am only minutely through it.”

Rich Hagberg · 3:07 AM

Good question Seth, I would say know some things, but never an expert, perpetually a student. There is always more to learn and we are all still learning. I am not able to predict such things beyond my current understanding, but we must decide toge

Rich Hagberg · 3:08 AM

togehter

Rich Hagberg · 3:08 AM

Damn, really... TOGETHER

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:08 AM

To answer @Seth's question of when, I'm starting to think "never." Like there wouldn't be purpose without good and evil, or something…

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Psst, Rich, never give them dates ; )”

Rich Hagberg · 3:09 AM

Thanks, good thing I didn't Kimba!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:09 AM

Giving dates when predicting shifts is a bad idea. Just look at the Mayans.

Rich Hagberg · 3:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“DUALITY!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:10 AM

maybe duality precludes a shift?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:10 AM

maybe a shift is only possible on an individual level?

Rich Hagberg · 3:10 AM

Kimba, I refer back to my comment about the universe on that one...

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Can't the Mayans get a mulligan?”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:11 AM

yeah, let's give them a 23,000 year window…

Rich Hagberg · 3:11 AM

LMAO!!!

Rich Hagberg · 3:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Hey there was a blackout that night...”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:12 AM

all right, Rich, my man! Did you have fun?! Are there any other topics you want to explore tonight?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:13 AM

I always knew Seth was a star, but for me @Kimbra is a REVELATION!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:13 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“I watched Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey last night, which is SO apropos for this tawk!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:13 AM

my broth!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:13 AM

brota

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:13 AM

brotha

Rich Hagberg · 3:13 AM

Blake! Glad you could join us!

Rich Hagberg · 3:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“All kinds of crazy shift happens in that movie”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:14 AM

I like my broth! It's like, was sup my soup?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“Oh man a triple typo, ladies and gentlemen, JB is now sobbing in the corner”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“One of my favorite films from that time period.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:15 AM

So Rich - on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the experience?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:15 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“I mean how the hell do you make that film in 1968... The man had a 200 IQ”

Rich Hagberg · 3:15 AM

change is constant, even if we choose not too, there is still change...

Rich Hagberg · 3:15 AM

Experience of the movie?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:15 AM

agree wholeheartedly

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:16 AM

no I meant the experience of Tawking. It just got jumbled with the side conversations.

Rich Hagberg · 3:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“Change is life. Stagnation is death. If you don't change, you die. It's that simple. - Leonard Sweet”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:16 AM

"I think what we have here is a dead shark." -Woody Allen

Rich Hagberg · 3:16 AM

Right on Blake, so true! Even applies to our state of health, our state of being!

Rich Hagberg · 3:17 AM

Nice placement Jordan. Flawless victory.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:17 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“LOL - literally just cackled at the Woody Quote”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:17 AM

thank you. thank you very much.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:17 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I could tawk on this subject all night ...”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:18 AM

so Kimbra - I'm taking you up on that. Will you continue this Tawk with Rich, with me, with other friends of yours?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:18 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Now?”

Rich Hagberg · 3:18 AM

I mentioned earlier we will definitely need a continuation of this...

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:18 AM

in the future

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:18 AM

new ones

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:19 AM

it's true -rich did say the topic will require multiple tawks

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Absolutely!”

Rich Hagberg · 3:19 AM

Say yes Kimba.

Rich Hagberg · 3:19 AM

Yes!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:19 AM

I'm holding you to it!

Rich Hagberg · 3:19 AM

I'm so there!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Maybe we could pick one topic of the shift and focus for a tawk?”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:20 AM

done. I'd actually like to hear about the dimensions and be able to focus on it.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:20 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“Have we discussed everyones favorite shifts?”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:20 AM

I like the infield shift to a left-handed batter

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:20 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“haha I was thinking like ending slavery, but ok”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:20 AM

vagaries of perception, Mr. Anderson

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“There is a pretty huge paradigm shift happening right now with equality”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Ending slavery was a definite dhift in consciousness.”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:21 AM

we were definitely more focused on the ethereal than the practical in this one.

Rich Hagberg · 3:22 AM

@ Jordan....that is my all time favorite movie (the whole trilogy)

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:22 AM

@Rich -me too. The Matrix is the greatest trilogy of all time, and yes that includes Star Wars, Godfather, LOTR and anything else you want to throw out me.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:23 AM

But Godfather is only because Part 3 was sooooooooo bad

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:23 AM

otherwise it woulda been Godfather with Matrix a close second

Rich Hagberg · 3:23 AM

Grounding is important... my thought on this.... Thinking & Feeling + Believing....

Rich Hagberg · 3:24 AM

Like a place where magic and science are one in the same...

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:24 AM

We're going to get there one day, Rich, and it's going to be fantastic!

Rich Hagberg · 3:24 AM

Jordan, I am a fan of all of those

Rich Hagberg · 3:24 AM

Indeed!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:25 AM

well, you're human, aren't ya?!

Rich Hagberg · 3:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“Ok guys Im leaving, JB has offended me my cinematic OCD”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:25 AM

All right amigos - I need to go eat something before I pass out

Rich Hagberg · 3:25 AM

Great Tawk, thanks to everyone!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:26 AM

Kimba I just realized I've been misspelling your name the entire time. so sorry!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:26 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Let's make some shift happen!”

Rich Hagberg · 3:26 AM

Thank you Jordan, go eat! We don't want you to pass out! Sustenance!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:26 AM

I absolutely LOVED this Tawk - you all were so much fun!

Rich Hagberg · 3:26 AM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“At least you didn't call me Simba!”

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:27 AM

lol kimba you're my new favorite!

Rich Hagberg · 3:27 AM

I had to keep the spelling in line. I had to "Trek myself, before I wreck myself"

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:27 AM

Seth, you're an established favorite.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:27 AM

lol

Rich Hagberg · 3:28 AM

Trader of Knowledge?

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:28 AM

And Rich, we've never met live, but I feel a real sense of brotherhood with you.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“Im a mandatory favorite”

Rich Hagberg · 3:28 AM

Same here Jordan, I agree!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:28 AM

it's not mandatory - it's a given

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Wow a kinship through Tawking!”

Rich Hagberg · 3:29 AM

United the world...through TAWKERS!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:29 AM

Yes, it's like the hokey pokey. That's what it's all about!

Rich Hagberg · 3:29 AM

Nice one Jordan!

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:29 AM

good night everyone.

Rich Hagberg · 3:30 AM

Goodnight.

Jordan Birnbaum · 3:30 AM

thanks for reminding me I'm not alone.

Rich Hagberg · 3:30 AM

we aren't. Got your six.

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Looking forward to this!

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Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:19 AM★ Spotlighted

This should be interesting!

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:21 AM★ Spotlighted

Let's get right down to shift

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:23 AM★ Spotlighted

I think there are many levels to "the shift" and not everyone is shifting in exactly the same way.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:24 AM★ Spotlighted

There is a spiritual shift called "ascension".

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:25 AM★ Spotlighted

There is a shift in consciousness as in taking care of each other and the planet.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:26 AM★ Spotlighted

There is the shift that we consciously take - moving towards positivity and then there are the ones that might happen - "The Event"

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:27 AM★ Spotlighted

Yes, we have to not only care about each other, but the critters, and the planet.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:27 AM★ Spotlighted

I think we need to physically shift as well. Space travel would be a great thing, besides it's too damn crazy and overcrowded down here on Earth

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:27 AM★ Spotlighted

"Shift" is such a huge paradigm.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:29 AM

Jordan, maybe that means that you are already awake! :)

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:31 AM★ Spotlighted

Sadly, it seems to take a tragedy to bring people together. I remember after 9/11, people dropped their guards and looked past race, religion, politics and nearly everything else--at least for the time being

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:32 AM

Space travel was a goal of the US, up until the budget cuts

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:33 AM★ Spotlighted

Maybe we need a mass spiritual awakening to get us all on the same page so that we can evolve and move forward.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:34 AM

My entire view of the past comes from Battlestar Galactica : )

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:34 AM

Jordan, that could be.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:35 AM★ Spotlighted

Have you guys heard of Space weather, and how the climates of all of the planets in the solar system are changing, not just ours?

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:37 AM★ Spotlighted

Darn Exxon Mobil is everywhere, just can't stop them!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:38 AM★ Spotlighted

That also our magnetosphere is diminishing, which would open up our planet for some sort of major change via an X-flare from the sun or a gamma ray burst. It's an interesting line of thinking.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:39 AM

Jordan, I'm beginning to think so - all the things that have happened lately, and people are still watching "reality tv" as if nothing is going on!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:40 AM

But I think it's an individual thing - some will get there because they know they can and work on it - others will have to be shaken awake to the process.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:40 AM★ Spotlighted

Posted it a while ago JB

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:41 AM★ Spotlighted

I was saying it seemed out of sync with the chat now because it was posted so long ago :)

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:42 AM★ Spotlighted

I missed it too.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:43 AM★ Spotlighted

Guess it also brings up the question as to whether or not any of the religious prophecies will come true

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:46 AM★ Spotlighted

If gamma rays start striking the Earth, it won't be a shift, it will be holy sh*t!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:47 AM★ Spotlighted

Telepathy, Empathy, Telekinesis and, wait for it, TELEPORTATION!

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:48 AM★ Spotlighted

The universe is but not sure about the plants and animals

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:49 AM★ Spotlighted

Tellememore Kimba...this sounds interesting

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:50 AM★ Spotlighted

I'm speechless at the moment ... trying to decide which of my multi-dimensions to speak from.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:50 AM

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:51 AM★ Spotlighted

I think on a third dimensional level we've got to get humanity's shit together.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:51 AM

Let us know what it's like once you get to the fifth dimension Kimba

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:51 AM

On a fourth dimensional level we have to be not so concerned with things happening in order or the timeline.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:52 AM★ Spotlighted

Oh stop being such a bleeding heart leftist JB :)

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:52 AM

On the fifth dimensional level, we will be more awake, alive and aware, where things in the third and fourth levels will just seem old-fashioned, archaic and mean spirited.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:53 AM

I'm working on it Seth!

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:53 AM★ Spotlighted

Lol, some sarcasm since we share similar views

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:54 AM★ Spotlighted

lol, no couldn't be further left of you

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:55 AM

Agreed, Kimba any substances involved to get to the fifth dimension?

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:56 AM

Or can we get their stone-cold sober

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 2:57 AM

Predictions: how soon do you think this shift will happen?

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:58 AM★ Spotlighted

Empathy is not easy though!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:58 AM★ Spotlighted

I winder if that's why people choose not to feel it?

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:58 AM

And some get empathy confused with compassion.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:59 AM

Not so much fear - it's more about overdosing on emotion.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 2:59 AM★ Spotlighted

Sometimes it's easier to start with compassion and move into empathy.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:00 AM

Actually Jordan, I think it's through example ... live by example.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:00 AM

I know I've stopped watching media altogether.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:01 AM★ Spotlighted

But I try to walk my talk.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:02 AM

Good point, Rich!

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:02 AM★ Spotlighted

Or as psychologists call it Rich, pain vs. pleasure principle

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:03 AM★ Spotlighted

But let's not be airy fairy about it - stay grounded : )

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:03 AM

Where are the other 19 Tawkers?

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:04 AM★ Spotlighted

So let's ask the expert...Rich when do you see the shift happening?

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:04 AM

Yep!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:06 AM★ Spotlighted

Jordan, I think this at least once a day.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:06 AM★ Spotlighted

I feel shifted, but I know I am only minutely through it.

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:07 AM

What makes you feel like you are shifted? And are we talking shift or ascension?

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:08 AM★ Spotlighted

Psst, Rich, never give them dates ; )

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:08 AM★ Spotlighted

DUALITY!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:09 AM

OH no, you brought up DUALITY!

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:09 AM

I prefer a basic shift...kidding. It should be interesting, and I know all of us can't wait until it happens

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:10 AM★ Spotlighted

Can't the Mayans get a mulligan?

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:11 AM

The goal of going to 5D, I think, is to rid our existence of duality and become balanced.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:11 AM★ Spotlighted

Hey there was a blackout that night...

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:11 AM

And capitalism.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:11 AM

may be they used a little bit of hyperbole with their predictions

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:12 AM

They wrote a calendar - they didn't predict anything!

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:13 AM★ Spotlighted

I watched Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey last night, which is SO apropos for this tawk!

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:13 AM★ Spotlighted

All kinds of crazy shift happens in that movie

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:13 AM

Oh no ... ; )

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:13 AM★ Spotlighted

Oh man a triple typo, ladies and gentlemen, JB is now sobbing in the corner

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:14 AM

haha

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:14 AM★ Spotlighted

One of my favorite films from that time period.

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:15 AM★ Spotlighted

I mean how the hell do you make that film in 1968... The man had a 200 IQ

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:16 AM★ Spotlighted

Change is life. Stagnation is death. If you don't change, you die. It's that simple. - Leonard Sweet

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:17 AM★ Spotlighted

I could tawk on this subject all night ...

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:17 AM★ Spotlighted

LOL - literally just cackled at the Woody Quote

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:17 AM

Only three constants in life: death, change, and taxes

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:17 AM

Yes, Seth, but let's shift into a paradigm where there is only life!

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:18 AM

@Kimba... uh you know there's a little blue button in the top right of your screen, why not schedule your own?? ; )

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:18 AM

I'm down with that

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:18 AM★ Spotlighted

Now?

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:19 AM

THE FUTURRRREEE - whoa

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:19 AM★ Spotlighted

Absolutely!

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:19 AM

how bout you hit the button NOW and schedule it for sometime in the future

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:19 AM★ Spotlighted

Maybe we could pick one topic of the shift and focus for a tawk?

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:19 AM

OK.

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:19 AM★ Spotlighted

Have we discussed everyones favorite shifts?

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:20 AM

Becoming Multi-Dimensional .... hmmmm

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:20 AM★ Spotlighted

haha I was thinking like ending slavery, but ok

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:21 AM★ Spotlighted

There is a pretty huge paradigm shift happening right now with equality

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:21 AM★ Spotlighted

Ending slavery was a definite dhift in consciousness.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:22 AM

No question about it shift in marriage equality and certainly a shift about drug perception

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:22 AM

ah sorry

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:22 AM

I love the ethereal, but I like being grounded too.

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:22 AM

How about the personal shift of adolescence

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:22 AM

thats pretty ethereal

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:23 AM

That was a long time ago, Blake.

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:23 AM★ Spotlighted

Ok guys Im leaving, JB has offended me my cinematic OCD

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:24 AM

Looking at life as thought it is a computer program/virtual game ...

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:24 AM

Typos abound.

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:24 AM

(jk)

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:25 AM

Magic and Science ARE the same!

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:25 AM

Godfather is number one

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:25 AM

You know Kimba I actually saw this amazing special once on a theory that we are someone else's video game!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:25 AM

Thanks Rich!

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:25 AM

I would have a tawk about that with you!

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:25 AM

invite me sometime

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:25 AM

Thanks Jordan!

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:25 AM★ Spotlighted

Let's make some shift happen!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:26 AM

No problem!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:26 AM★ Spotlighted

At least you didn't call me Simba!

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:27 AM

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:27 AM

Jordan you're a trader :)

Blake IanNov 13, 2013, 3:28 AM★ Spotlighted

Im a mandatory favorite

kimba kradelNov 13, 2013, 3:28 AM

I have got to go too.

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:28 AM

Lol, JB...Just kidding

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:28 AM★ Spotlighted

Wow a kinship through Tawking!

Seth HochmanNov 13, 2013, 3:31 AM

Goodnight, and thank you NSA for joining the Tawk