Eleanor Goldfield

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Jun 10, 2014

Activists Eleanor Goldfield and Lee Camp discuss the latest campaign to build solar roadways - could this be the answer to our energy concerns? Or go the way of the electric car?

Lee Camp · 10:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“I am excited about this discussion especially after going to Greenfest DC two weekends ago!”

Lee Camp · 10:54 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“This is the first one I have been able to attend in MONTHS! Sorry Lee and Eleanor but I have returned!”

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

Hey everybody, thanks for coming! Today we're covering solar roadways, nuclear power, and other forms of energy...

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Hey everyone! Thanks for joining this week's Revolting tawk!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Let all your friends and followers know you're here!

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

it would be GREAT if you could post that you're here!

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

Looks like we've already had 2,400 people check out the Tawk. That's awesome. As most of you know - anyone can participate. Eleanor and I are just moderators of sorts.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

So - just in the few hours since I posted about this tawk, I've gotten quite a bit of commentary on these solar roadways

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“living in a country that didnt bother with nuclear energy we are branded backward and stupid by countries that did...well we were smart enough not to piss in our own pool #LOLZ who's stupid now”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

Several people saying it's the most amazing new invention and others saying it will never work

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

Yes, many love and hate solar roadways.

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

But isn't that the case with any change?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:02 PM

True.

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

Hell, remember when everyone with a cell phone was made fun of?

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Whenever somebody says something won't work I look for what reason they give.”

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“change is a bitch until its shown its worth it”

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“im in ireland dawn”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:02 PM

From what I understand, people are arguing over how efficient they would actually be - not in terms of energy but also in terms of just plain logistics

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“How can it be worse than the road systems now that we can't mantain?”

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

For those of you who haven't watched the solar roadways vid that has gone viral, it's here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTA3rnpgzU

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

But you dont' have to watch it now. It's pretty self-explanatory.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“these guys are facebook too - https://www.facebook.com/solarroadways”

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

If we converted all our roads to solar panels with LED lights, we would get 3X the energy we use as a country - (We being America)

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Even if we only use them on driveways it would be a huge improvement.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“Why can't we just get started installing them on sidewalks and driveways, work out whatever glitches there and then move onto the roads?”

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

Dawn - totally. Even if we just switched PART of our blacktops to solar panels.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

@Gregory - that's the argument many are taking. As opposed to not trying at all, start small and work it out from there

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

Not to mention, we could try this state by state. One city could make the switch and see how it goes - but of course you have to fight the oil giants who hate it.

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“I am in favor of diving head first. Because anything that our government doesn't want to do has to be a good idea.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

every human innovation has done that. it's not like we started with mac air laptops. we started with computers the size of a fucking warehouse

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“I demod a generator in Iowa last month that produces power from the palm of your hand”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“On our Reservation, the maintenance dept plows each Elder's driveway after every storm. That's 100 driveways. Imagine how much less gas we'd consume if we could just melt the snow.”

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

Mitchell- I thought that was the slogan for masturbation?

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ignacio Manjakanoni

“If we wanted we could use any of the clean technologies that we have today and give free clean energy for everyone”

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“@Lee - anything that loses those in power money,they aint gonna go for it. always gotta be something in it for them”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“What about some universities that HAVE divested? Maybe this would be something they would want to implement...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

@Gregory - I could definitely see MIT doing something like this - at least the students

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

And furthermore, they always love to talk about jobs - Imagine the number of jobs in switching all the roadways to solar!

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“they wont embrace solar energy untill they have used up all the oil”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

but Lee - aren't there way more jobs available in building oil pipelines?

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

Barry - It's quickly getting too expensive to keep getting the oil.

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Government has to step in and provide the money. Government is suppose to be the grey area between business and private citizens. To protect and provide services where business would fail us. Like all business has been doing.”

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“They have our congress bought and paid for.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:07 PM

@Joshua - their crowdfunding campaign is doing really well. They can at least get a start with that capital

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“Engineers that are working with alternative energies face huge road blocks. Even within solar we have a lot more options than just PV solar cells that people see.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Yeah but I had this argument with a friend a while back. About the interstate system and how it was funded.”

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

By the way, there's also a viral indiegogo for solar roadways. I have no idea where the money goes exactly so I won't tell you to give. But I hope it's going to the right place.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

@Joshua - if we're talking interstates, that's for sure a government infrastructure issue. But starting small as people have suggested. That would not only make use of that capital but it would give solid evidence

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“So they have to put up the money. Build it and provide said service then tax.”

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“I don't think the staying small things will work anymore. We aren't being attacked at small local levels.”

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“What about semi trucks, their tires grind through asphalt over time don'e you think the same will happen with the glass these roadways would be made of? Instead of tiny pebbles though it would be glass dust.”

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

Nick - small panels can be replaced. Furthermore, without ice, they wouldn't break apart as quickly as asphalt.

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

(There would be no ice because they keep the road slightly above freezing.)

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Were it me, I'd start with just driveways.”

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“Where's Tesla on this one? Doesn't Elon have a huge stake in providing that Cross Country trip?”

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“talking of portable solar power,check this out - http://www.solarpowerportal.co.uk/news/portable_3.2kwp_smartflower_lands_in_the_uk_2356”

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Glass goes through high temps. to be made and is durable. Which is why they recycle it.”

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“No more potholes?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

I do think starting small is important. After all, right now there are over 30 states that have initiatives in their legislature to overturn citizens united and push for a 28th amendment. that started small.

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

@Eleanor - same with cities passing resolutions to fight NDAA

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

exactly

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

★ Spotlighted from David Brooks

“perfect tool for a surveilance state to track people”

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

David - they already have that, cell phones.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:12 PM

this gov't will never just make changes b/c they think it'll help us. we have to demand it. solar roadways is a perfect example of that.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“The roads now need repair so any solar roads that need repair will keep people employed.”

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“No more rusted undercarriages on cars. Ya know, in some places they melt ice and snow with fracjing "brine"”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“i dont think they would ever make these solar roads {those mrapp trucks would be to heavy for them}”

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

And DON'T ever let them tell you we don't have the money for this - we have 900 military bases around the world. We have PLENTY of money. We also have enough money to create the world's largest surveillance infrastructure.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

only one way to find out, Barry. like any good scientific or technological advancement, test it

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“Can solar roads be warmed up? Would that prevent the need for roads to be shut down for snow. Will we kill snow days? Kids will hate us.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

ha! well, unfortunately for the kids tony, solar roadways do warm, thereby keeping ice from forming

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Also use it in parks and parking lots. LED lights eliminate the need to paint the roadways.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“RAVE ROADS!”

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

By the way we talk about Solar Roadways in the latest episode of my TV show "Redacted Tonight". Watch it after the Tawk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKoGEt-6anQ

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“What about at night? Unless plans have already been made on how to store the solar energy from the day then we're talking millions or even billions of dollars a night the keep these things powered. Not to mention the cost of the initial installation”

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

Nick - yes, of course there are plans to store the energy!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“lol yeah right eleanor ...like would want to drive down a highway full of smashed glass panels”

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

The energy does not disappear at night.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

@Barry - obviously you don't start by constructing an entire highway. You construct a portion big enough to test your theory. then you make adjustments. it's simple

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

“Aside from the Koch brothers, who else would NOT be in favor of this beautiful & powerful project which will be powered by the Sun.”

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“It's cool they will still work perfectly fine as roads at night”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Felicia Bawolek

“expense should be addressed long term and short term. just as anything that is proactive or is done with care and thoughtfulness with the intent to be longstanding will be more expenssive in the short-term, the longevity mkaes it dramatically cheaper”

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

Gregory - As Mitch Hedberg famously said "Escalators cannot break. They just become stairs." Well, solar roadways do not break at night. They just become roadways.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

@Felicia - very true. The cost was always the argument I heard against solar panels on houses...nobody wanted to talk about how much money people would save over the course of even just a few years

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

sorry for the convenience!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Chell Lynch

“this just seems like an everyone wins alternative. better than sitting on the fence debating . better to TRY”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“pavements is a damn good place to start. small and its gets used every day”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“I used to like Mitch Hedburg, I still do. But I used ta too”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“If you drive through New Orleans especially New Orleans East almost every house has solar panels. Even the poor houses in the Treme have em.”

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

And I love the argument it would COST TOO MUCH - Yeah, mean compared to our upcoming extinction due to our use of fossil fuels? Will it cost more than that?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

@Joshua - that's awesome - I didn't know that!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

It's really the only argument they can use, Lee.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from Chell Lynch

“ion cark parks, I love Germanys solar panel covered car parks... you can recharge your electric car there too....”

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“People latch onto things like "Freaking Solar Roadways" and ignore all the small things that we could be doing now”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“Imagine if we became the land of Independence again? If we were free of energy constraints imagine how good THAT would be for the economy”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

@Gregory - that is an interesting point. Are these solar roadway panels constructed in teh US?

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“There are a lot of building materials that are better and cheaper but are made more expensive by corporations.”

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“True Mitchell, but not all. How many of us have a garden?”

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“lee you can stop plugging this talk on twitter ...we are already here homie”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

I know they could be

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

Ha. Barry, I love that you think you're all of twitter.

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

And I thought I was full of myself!!

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“I am all of Myspace.”

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

Josh - that's the funniest thing I've heard in a week.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

wow, that's like hearing the word tape recorder

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“Does the NSA track myspace?”

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

CIA just started their twitter account. I'm not kidding.

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

Clearly CIA has too much time on their hands now that we're not torturing as much.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“Nuclear energy is more problematic for me because we have not found an effective way disposing of nuclear waste.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

@Tony - absolutely. People tout it as a "clean" alternative

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

How clean is a nuclear fallout?

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

Tony - TOTALLY right. Nuclear waste is a disaster in many different areas of the world. Not just Fukushima

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“If it isn't safe it shouldn't be done. Like drilling for oil or anything.”

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“I saw that, Lee! Did you see the answering tweet from Wikileaks?”

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“getting rid of nuclear energy is like getting rid of plastic bags etc - its take bloody ages!”

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

Lucy - the bags don't generally give everyone cancer.

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Wikileaks said "We look forward to sharing classified info to you"”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“We started charging people extra for plastic bags, a lot of people are getting the hint when it hits their wallets and pocketbooks.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from David Brooks

“we can move tons of sludge from canada to the gulf of mexico and drill down thousands of feet below the ocean but this THIS is to much work and money”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“I am waiting for the counter argument to solar energy to be that the sun light gives us cancer.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

@Joshua, I won't be surprised. A counter argument for wind energy was that by capturing wind and using it for energy, you would negatively shift weather patterns

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

seriously.

Lee Camp · 11:24 PM

So I was totally shocked by the nuclear problem we covered on my show this week. I had never heard of it until Sam Sacks did his report. It was on the Hanford Nuclear site in Washington state.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“Lol, did you all see the argument that solar drains the sun?”

Lee Camp · 11:24 PM

Apparently there is a ridiculous amount of nuclear waste water that they don't know what to do with.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

Saw that, Lee

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

fucking frightening

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

And it sits on a fault line. And it sits on a river near a dam with a 65 foot crack in it.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“Wind and Solar are hands down the safest of the alternative fuels, in some other oil still has to be used.”

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Chell Lynch

“I knoe”

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“We can use the waste to slime all of congress.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from alex rojas

“I herd about that , supposedly it will take until 2090 to clean it all up”

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

They want to turn all the radioactive water into glass. I'm not kidding.

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“maybe they are waiting to see how Fukushima deals with it first”

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

Yeah, Fukushima is doing quite well. They're latest idea is to build an ice wall to try to stop the radioactive sludge.

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“Nuclear energy is not worth the risk. Unless some brilliant scientist can find a way to recycle the waste.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

well it would be 2090 except for the fact that that number doesn't take into account the half life of nuclear waste...

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“flush it down the drain lee ...everyone knows the drain is a magical thing that makes water disappear”

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“For whatever reason, all the nuke plants that were planned in the late 60s/70s and built after that were all built near environmental hazards.”

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Swimming pools for the rich. Special activated water.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

@Joshua - I am loving your ideas today

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“Nuclear waste into glass? That is insane!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I spent a lot of time in the 80s protesting and working with the Abalone Alliance ...”

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

I think 2090 is the estimate of when they would have it made into glass. Not when it would no longer be radioative.

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Matrisciano

“t's just like "hey! let's combine the two biggest lies on earth: that solar power is the greenest way to make electricity, and that open-air roadways are the best way to get around, and grab a lot of money from new-age-sheep!"”

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

Seth - you can argue with solar roadways but what you just said was stupidity.

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

a) whether you love roads or not, they are going to be there. No one said they're the best way to get around.

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

b) solar power IS very green compared to oil

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

I think he's joking

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“Seth what you said made no sense.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

or rather, i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

because otherwise...fucking wow

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

Eleanor, I don't think he was joking.

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“He's serious.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

Well - moving on.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Taunia Roberts

“Eleanor, do the solar roadways use any water or need any water?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

@Taunia - no.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Taunia Roberts

“cool”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Just cables to provide and extract electriciy.”

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Matrisciano

“cold-nuclear power plants that run on the waste we have no idea what to do with should be a real "new age" priority, but we don't like to address the nuclear issue.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

★ Spotlighted from Taunia Roberts

“so what about installing them to driveways first? what could they power there?”

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

Seth - you're completely assuming humankind can only do one thing at once. There CAN be scientists working on solar roads AND scientists working on other forms of power.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

@Taunia - that's a suggestion some people brought up earlier, and I think, a really good one.

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

Believe it or not, there are more than two scientists and engineers.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“More of a money grab than inflated gas prices?”

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“we should be made to create our own electricity by pedalling some type of wheel ....then you can be damn sure that you didnt leave the iron on when you leave the house”

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Matrisciano

“yeah I do forget that sometimes.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from David Brooks

“i thought it was just neil and bill nye”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from alex rojas

“I like the idea that the roads can help wireless charge electric cars”

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Then on to sidewalks, streets, and move out into the infrastructure.”

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“leds don't really need much energy”

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Matrisciano

“But the major thing is: roads are usually covered in cars. How does that work with solar?”

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

Seth - you're not serious!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“So, how would the panel be able to produce enough wattage to support the 50 or so LED's in each panel? Considering the solar panel that they plan to use are only rated around 18% efficiency.”

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

The amount of time a road has a car covering it compared to NOT is like 100 to 1.

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

Most of this country's roads are bare almost ALL of the day.

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Stop smoking that synthetic weed and get your head right.”

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“You can also generate electricity from urine. But, that gets no headlines and we have a tremendous supply of it”

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

Mitchell - piss off!

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“The roads are bare unless you live in DC or LA...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

@Nick - same way a solar panel can power a house or a car, etc. The amount of power they generate is far greater than the amount of power generated by typical energy sources

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

@Tony - even in LA there are a shit ton of bare roads

Lee Camp · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“@Lee - would be the trickle down effect?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

not every street is the 405 at 6pm

Lee Camp · 11:34 PM

Maybe we should pave the roads in cars!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“I say we put congress to work in giant hamster wheels to provide us electricity. Paul Ryan is fit enough use him as a test round.”

Lee Camp · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Matrisciano

“so this solar panel roadway is a good idea for long stretches of road with no congestion, but not heavily populated areas?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“an unprotected solar cell can last 30 years. If you change the cover on it every thirty years it could last hundreds”

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

Seth - even in heavily populated areas, MOST of the roads are not covered MOST of the day.

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“It's a good idea for EVERYWHERE”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

@Joshua - can you please run for office? Your platforms are brilliant

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“I would like new construction of homes to follow zero energy models, they don't cost anymore than other constructed homes”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

“And what about the scary rise in birth defects in the 3 WA counties where Hanford Nuclear facility is? Do ya think there just might be a connection there?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from David Brooks

“or we could hook a turbine up to the major "news" buildings and power america off their hot air”

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

Yeah, Hanford is a mess!

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

Hanford will be the next Fukushima when there's a massive earthquake or maybe even without one.

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from alex rojas

“it would look like tron's world at night !”

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

Alex - really this is all about just getting to tron.

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

And think of all the poor deer that would be saved because the road would tell you when one is ahead.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Exactly. The road would be smarter than 80% of America.”

Lee Camp · 11:37 PM

More importantly - could you hack the LEDs and write crazy shit to people on the road. You know, like "my truck nuts smell like your mom!"

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

Lee - I have a feeling if you marketed solar roadways with the promise of juvenile messaging...they would sell exponentially better

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“@Eleanor- We're talking trillions of led lights, not just one house with its roof covered in panels. I'm sorry but I have a hard time believing that this can work with our current society.”

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

El - COMPLETELY

Lee Camp · 11:39 PM

★ Spotlighted from Cas Davis

“If done properly, we could grown the output's value, and pay bills that way. If that's what ppl want.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

@Nick - right, but the concept is the same. The sun is one helluva energy source - the efficiency doesn't plummet just b/c we're talking about a larger scale

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

@Nick - and even if you are skeptical, what do we have to lose by trying it? we already know things like oil, nuclear, and fracking DON'T work. so we give this a shot, work out some kinks and see what happens.

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

El - I think most of America just needs to be informed that solar roadways ARE NOT roads to the sun. I think that's important.

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“Would anyone like a google hangout on sewage to fuel on Thursday?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

wait...they're not?

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

Nope. I was surprised.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

Lee, god dammit

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“Some dummy would try to drive to the sun if they were...”

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

Icarus

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“but if you are called Icarus?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“Yes, arizona, california, new mexio, and oklahoma are all we need for all the continents electricity and we don't need repairs from driving on it”

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Cas Davis

“2nd, take the energy output value, and use it IN the economy.”

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from alex rojas

“Google glasses app with the solar roadways. that would be awesome”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

seriously. particularly considering that CA is going through, oh the worst drought in recorded history

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Moore

“My political campaign which was based on Solar road ways in my city has fallen flat, mostly due to an error I made.”

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

Josh - what does that mean?? So cryptic.

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

Josh - was your mistake sleeping with a child? I'm on the edge of my seat here!

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Moore

“But I have been kicking around the idea of a long term political movement based on Technocratic ideals.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from David Brooks

“where i live in nor cal we have 100 mile roads that maby 5 people travel down and we would love highspeed internet”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“I think all we need to do to sell the idea of the solar roadways to Americans is show them that bit about the embedded heaters that melt ice and snow.”

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

Solar Freakin Bitcoins!!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

@kimba - i do think we need some test roadways to really get the idea some real traction...no pun intended

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“@EL What do I feel like we have lose? Really? In this fuckin country, come on man. As much as I hate it, everything costs money, each one of our citizens is going to have to pay thousands in taxes just to get the panels...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

@Nick - no they won't...the crowdfunding campaign?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

You use that capital to create test roadways

Lee Camp · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“Eleanor, yes absolutely - they do have a tiny test road on site.”

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Already raised 2 million in donations.”

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Cas Davis

“These solar roads COULD be useful, but those at the top, won't allow it, if we're so obvious.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM

It's really not that difficult. And by the way, you already pay thousands in tax dollars to literally poison yourself (fossil fuels)

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

Yeah, but there are often ways around the assholes at the top. At least on the smaller levels.

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“nick..if they have the money to blow shit up then they have the money for a few solar panels”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

Again, starting small. The push for legislative change won't come from a Koch brother

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

it comes from grassroots

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from kimba kradel

“As a techie, it takes a lot for me to get excited about a tech project, but the whole solar road thing, had me almost jumping up and down with excitement.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

“GERMANY...have you been to there lately?”

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“Fukushima already has a plan to deal with their nuclear problem. Ignore it and tell everyone everything is OK and threaten to break of diplomatic ties if anyone speaks up”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“You give them about 12 billion a year for the oil companies to pay no taxes and raise prices.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

@Johnathonfall - I haven't been there in a few years but I know they're a solar powerhouse

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“grassroots and solar panels ...thats hippie talk eleanor”

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

We've got 13 minutes left - anybody have any other energy sources they wanted to bring up?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

@Barry - that's nothing. I can do far worse...she said sipping a green smoothie

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“Long live the hippies!”

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

I put hemp in my coffee.

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“All of you guys are totally right about the oil companies being fuckwads, I'm just over here asking questions”

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“No solar power opportunity should be wasted”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

@Nick - and it's important to ask questions. We're talking it out :)

Lee Camp · 11:48 PM

We haven't gotten into geothermal or tidal power.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

Tidal is bad ass

Lee Camp · 11:48 PM

I think the problem with both geothermal and tidal is that it will again give the corps monopolies on power.

Lee Camp · 11:48 PM

Solar and wind often take the power out of the corps hands - that's why they hate them so much.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“There is a term called insolation for how good a place is for using solar energy. Germany's insolation is very bad and they are still able to generate a large portion of their power with solar”

Lee Camp · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“a planned wind farm near me - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26064814”

Lee Camp · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“That is why they hate solar and wind.”

Lee Camp · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“tidal...ohhhh the surfers wont like somebody stealing their rad breaks dude”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:49 PM

I have to say I'm not familiar with the proposed structure of tidal energy. How would that be easier to monopolize?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Gregory Stevens

“Tidal needs to be done properly or the sea life will be hurt”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“The sun is the best and most abundant form of free energy.”

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“We have to spread the word, so many people are so busy surviving it is easy to miss the big picture.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“I'm just thinking we're gonna need around 2 billions tiles to cover most of our roadways,”

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Lobster fisherman are fighting Tidal energy here in Maine”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“and I understand that money being raised is just for research, but what if they decide to implement the idea who's gonna pay for it then?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

@Nick - the money is for actual construction as far as I understand

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“2 billion tiles can be done no problem, if we have money for wars can can definitely do this. It will save money in the long run.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“did you know there was a conference on tidal wave energy in february? - http://www.renewableuk.com/en/renewable-energy/wave-and-tidal/”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“I testified at a hearing for windfarms here. You would not believe what people claimed about windfarms. People would have their 10 children lined up crying that they don't want to die because windmills are "proven" to cause abortions in llamas”

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

We completely have money for this. We have money for insane weaponry and billions to deal with nuclear waste. We can clearly find money to save our future.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

abortions in llamas?!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

wtf?!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“@EL on the site it's asking for one million, they would need trillions to cover that cost, a couple thousand per citizen”

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Matrisciano

“money doesn't do a damn thing. there is a finite amount of resources being used by people and it's strictly controlled. money is just an illusion.”

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

Seth - you're not wrong but there is a difference between the philosophy of money and the practical day to day.

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

Money is absolutely an illusion.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

@Nick - they wouldn't need trillions for building smaller test roadways

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

But at the same time is allows the Koch bros to own our entire system.

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“Feel free to e-mail me at energy@heldt.org if you have any energy questions”

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

★ Spotlighted from David Brooks

“seth hates this idea so much he will say anything to kill it”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

Thanks Mitchell! Nick, Mitchell may be able to answer your questions better. Lee and I aren't energy experts - just looking to get the word out and discuss

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“I Invite everybody to New Orleans. So you can see how government funding can rebuild and create a booming economy. And how the rich destroy the poor to create and Utopia.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

I love New Orleans - need to get back there at some point

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

Love New Orleans

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Nick Pope

“@EL well I'm kinda focusing on full on implementation of this idea and who is going to end up suffering for it.”

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

New Orleans has kept its soul more than most cities due to franchising and corporate takeover

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“eleanor ..what you are not experts ....but the flyers i got stated otherwise”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:56 PM

@Nick - I think you're focusing on the concept of all our roadways being shifted to solar starting tomorrow with no testing or careful implementation

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Cas Davis

“Ok..... My eyes and brain hurt, now. Going back to nice, slow-moving fakebook. Bye guys! :)”

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

Cas - you make me proud. I'm glad we're faster and smarter than bookface.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

Bottom line - this is a viable alternative that should be tested and implemented if it turns out to be as awesome as it claims to be.

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

Hey guys, we're wrapping up. PLEASE watch my TV show. It's all online and we talk about Solar Roadways and other crazy stuff. Here's the second episode - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKoGEt-6anQ

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

We have Tawkers every Tuesday and you can stay here and tawk as long as you want.

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Lee you saw my comment earlier?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

Thanks for joining us!

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

Josh - which one?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

And as always, if you have ideas on future tawks, let us know!

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

Check out Eleanor's stuff too!

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

And follow me @RedactedTonight and Facebook.com/RedactedTonight

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Tony Carr

“@LeeI will check out the show, I subscribe to your podcast which you haven't been posting on hint hint”

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

Tony - A new hour-long one just came out!!

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

New podcast is up!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

You can find me online: rooftoprevolutionaries.com, @rooftopeleanor, @rooftoprev

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

You can listen at LeeCamp.net or itunes

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“JIndal signed a law to make it illegal for us to Sue Oil companies for destroying the coast.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

watch lee's show - it's rad!

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Chell Lynch

“@lee ~ show is great , humorously informative :)”

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

Thanks El.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

@Joshua - that reminds me of the law that passed in NC last week making it illegal (as in you'll go to jail) for disclosing what's in fracking chemicals

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

By the way, if you Tweet or FB ideas for stories to me, it wouldn't be that unusual that they end up on Redacted Tonight. So please do.

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“The Orleans Levee district had a lawsuit in the pipeline.”

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Keep fighting y'all.

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Tawkers AdminJun 9, 2014, 2:41 PM

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Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 10:44 AM

There are so many extremely important causes to give 5 or ten dollars too. I immediately gave 10 dollars to build solar roadways, courts, use your imagination...power to them!

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 10:49 PM★ Spotlighted

I am excited about this discussion especially after going to Greenfest DC two weekends ago!

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 10:54 PM★ Spotlighted

This is the first one I have been able to attend in MONTHS! Sorry Lee and Eleanor but I have returned!

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 10:59 PM

Evening to the awfully lovely hosts Eleanor and Lee! :-)

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:00 PM

hey hey

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:00 PM★ Spotlighted

living in a country that didnt bother with nuclear energy we are branded backward and stupid by countries that did...well we were smart enough not to piss in our own pool #LOLZ who's stupid now

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:00 PM

Hey Lee and Eleanor and the tawkers!

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:00 PM

Most people are not aware of radioactive materials that they encounter everyday and how they get into the environment

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:00 PM

Kkwwey (hello) from Wabanaki land in the East

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:00 PM

i am not even i am totally here...i may not be mohahahah!

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:00 PM

Already done.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:01 PM

Your biggest exposure to uranium and transuranics may come from burning coal which has uranium in it

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:01 PM

@ Barry.. where are you?

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:01 PM

@Barry - tell me about it

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:02 PM★ Spotlighted

im in ireland dawn

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:02 PM★ Spotlighted

Whenever somebody says something won't work I look for what reason they give.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:02 PM★ Spotlighted

change is a bitch until its shown its worth it

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:02 PM

are we going to be smarter from now onA?

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:02 PM

yes lee but they were yuppies

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:03 PM★ Spotlighted

How can it be worse than the road systems now that we can't mantain?

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:03 PM

I love the bit you had on your last episode of redacted about the solar roadways. I showed it to someone who was telling me it was a garbage idea and I was like, "you look and sound like this guy"

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:03 PM

@Lee - and the internet too

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:03 PM★ Spotlighted

these guys are facebook too - https://www.facebook.com/solarroadways

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:03 PM

I am working on patents right now for a farm that produces energy as well as produce. I am going to DC on Monday seeking funding

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:03 PM

Its a funny video.

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:03 PM★ Spotlighted

Even if we only use them on driveways it would be a huge improvement.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM★ Spotlighted

Why can't we just get started installing them on sidewalks and driveways, work out whatever glitches there and then move onto the roads?

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM

There is a dire need for updating of infrastructure in this structure and this can be part of it, it will be jobs and move us in the right direction of alternative energy.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM

lee ...thanks i know im a bit thick on this subject

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM

would you use them on all highways/roads? just the main roads or the country roads that have no lights whats so ever?

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM

with the amount of lives we save from having no more icy roads is worth any starting price

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM★ Spotlighted

I am in favor of diving head first. Because anything that our government doesn't want to do has to be a good idea.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM

I dig it

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM

What about keeping them powered at night?

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:04 PM★ Spotlighted

I demod a generator in Iowa last month that produces power from the palm of your hand

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:05 PM★ Spotlighted

On our Reservation, the maintenance dept plows each Elder's driveway after every storm. That's 100 driveways. Imagine how much less gas we'd consume if we could just melt the snow.

Ignacio ManjakanoniJun 10, 2014, 11:05 PM★ Spotlighted

If we wanted we could use any of the clean technologies that we have today and give free clean energy for everyone

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:05 PM★ Spotlighted

What about some universities that HAVE divested? Maybe this would be something they would want to implement...

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:05 PM★ Spotlighted

@Lee - anything that loses those in power money,they aint gonna go for it. always gotta be something in it for them

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

they wont embrace solar energy untill they have used up all the oil

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:06 PM

Tons of jobs! Ones that would stay too

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

Government has to step in and provide the money. Government is suppose to be the grey area between business and private citizens. To protect and provide services where business would fail us. Like all business has been doing.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

They have our congress bought and paid for.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:07 PM

yep pipelines going everywere

Ignacio ManjakanoniJun 10, 2014, 11:07 PM

maybe we dont need any more jobs and money

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:07 PM★ Spotlighted

Engineers that are working with alternative energies face huge road blocks. Even within solar we have a lot more options than just PV solar cells that people see.

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:07 PM

but the money appears to be just as, if not more expensive. Is this not also true, Lee?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:07 PM★ Spotlighted

Yeah but I had this argument with a friend a while back. About the interstate system and how it was funded.

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 11:08 PM

I just keep thinking of Germany and how they are now 73% clean & renewable energy! What is America's excuse?

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:08 PM

I don't think it's really that expensive either, we are ready for some infrastructure improvements. Just replace stuff as it becomes broken right?

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:08 PM

Omg, the end of all tolls!

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:08 PM

He said that the law they passed in the 50s would add taxes to pay for it. But that is ridiculous. The money has to start from somewhere. They can't tax you for using something that isn't there.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:08 PM

i would wait until TPP is passed,THEN nothing will get down....much like it does now,only harder

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:08 PM

aren't interstates considered federal property?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:08 PM★ Spotlighted

So they have to put up the money. Build it and provide said service then tax.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

I don't think the staying small things will work anymore. We aren't being attacked at small local levels.

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

What about semi trucks, their tires grind through asphalt over time don'e you think the same will happen with the glass these roadways would be made of? Instead of tiny pebbles though it would be glass dust.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:09 PM

We are being stolen from and attacked by the corporate giants.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:09 PM

The Bush regime passed laws against building solar power on federal lands

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:09 PM

we should go back to a time when we had to run after our food...1.we would be to busy to look for oil 2.there would be far fewer fat people

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

Were it me, I'd start with just driveways.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:09 PM

It is time with the need to infrastructure transformation to make this move. We have nothing to lose.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

Where's Tesla on this one? Doesn't Elon have a huge stake in providing that Cross Country trip?

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

No more potholes?

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

talking of portable solar power,check this out - http://www.solarpowerportal.co.uk/news/portable_3.2kwp_smartflower_lands_in_the_uk_2356

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

Glass goes through high temps. to be made and is durable. Which is why they recycle it.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:10 PM

Long before we speak of how to use the roadways to generate power, we must adopt a policy to use less

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

perfect tool for a surveilance state to track people

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:11 PM

Super cool omg thanks Lucy!

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:11 PM

We are screwed here in Louisiana. I got a story for you Lee on Redacted tonight.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:11 PM

ack dont talk to me about fucking potholes! councils everywhere arguing whos gonna pay to repair them,all the while theres accidents from them. go firgure

Paul MontaqueJun 10, 2014, 11:11 PM

Is the video entitled "Solar Freaking Roadways" relevant to this conversation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTA3rnpgzU

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:11 PM★ Spotlighted

No more rusted undercarriages on cars. Ya know, in some places they melt ice and snow with fracjing "brine"

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 11:11 PM

http://www.gulf-coast-pipeline.com/about/documents-and-links/

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:11 PM★ Spotlighted

The roads now need repair so any solar roads that need repair will keep people employed.

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:12 PM

*fracking

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:12 PM

Exactly what we are talking about Paul

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:13 PM

your government thinks you guys are too dumb to know what the fuck you want. sadly,for them, you guys are starting to realise what you do want.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:13 PM★ Spotlighted

i dont think they would ever make these solar roads {those mrapp trucks would be to heavy for them}

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:13 PM

Pickle brine and cheese brine work best on roads. Fracking brine contains markers like radioactive iodine that they would not waste on roads

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:13 PM★ Spotlighted

Can solar roads be warmed up? Would that prevent the need for roads to be shut down for snow. Will we kill snow days? Kids will hate us.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:13 PM

Those MRAP's will thankfully be stuck in their tracks when the oil runs dry

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:14 PM

Tony says that in the video.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:14 PM

Tons of money for this!

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:14 PM

@Lee - you going all Bill hicks on us now?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

Also use it in parks and parking lots. LED lights eliminate the need to paint the roadways.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

RAVE ROADS!

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

What about at night? Unless plans have already been made on how to store the solar energy from the day then we're talking millions or even billions of dollars a night the keep these things powered. Not to mention the cost of the initial installation

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

lol yeah right eleanor ...like would want to drive down a highway full of smashed glass panels

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:15 PM

EDM party roads

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:15 PM

The areas where you need heated roads are not the best for solar power. It is far better to collect the solar power in vast unused areas and transmit it to the cold north to warm the roads

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:15 PM★ Spotlighted

It's cool they will still work perfectly fine as roads at night

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:15 PM

It will save thousands of lives from ice related accidents, that is a good thing. And from an adult perspective increase productivity and kids will never make make up days again so they can get out earlier.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:15 PM

Lee BTW for Redacted Tonight. Look into Bobby Jindal signing a Law making it Illegal for people to sue the oil companies for destroying our coast.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:15 PM

is it me or did anyone else hear Billie Jean go thur their head when this topic came up?

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 11:15 PM★ Spotlighted

Aside from the Koch brothers, who else would NOT be in favor of this beautiful & powerful project which will be powered by the Sun.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:15 PM

think about it...

Felicia BawolekJun 10, 2014, 11:16 PM★ Spotlighted

expense should be addressed long term and short term. just as anything that is proactive or is done with care and thoughtfulness with the intent to be longstanding will be more expenssive in the short-term, the longevity mkaes it dramatically cheaper

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:16 PM

alright eleanor a small highway

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:16 PM

hedge funds that park tankers of oil off shore to prop up prices

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:16 PM

A better energy option is to cover all the roads and eliminate weather issues then use the cover of the roads as the power transmission corridor

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:16 PM

Shell Exxon "Clean" coal, concrete companies, Companies who make the machines to paint the lines.

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:16 PM

Or you start by contracting to residentials, in driveways and such.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:16 PM★ Spotlighted

this just seems like an everyone wins alternative. better than sitting on the fence debating . better to TRY

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:17 PM

:-)

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

pavements is a damn good place to start. small and its gets used every day

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:17 PM

parking lots, too.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

I used to like Mitch Hedburg, I still do. But I used ta too

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

If you drive through New Orleans especially New Orleans East almost every house has solar panels. Even the poor houses in the Treme have em.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:17 PM

On the Jetsons we should have been in flying cars by now and people are so resistant to anything that is innovative. Technological Conservationism can be stifling.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:17 PM

yeah lucy that would be a good idea

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM

its a revolutionary idea thats a 21st century solution

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM

Everybody is getting Road Home money and government grants for building green.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

ion cark parks, I love Germanys solar panel covered car parks... you can recharge your electric car there too....

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM

It works.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM

* on

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM

@ Lee but it's ok because Jesus is coming to save us. XD

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

People latch onto things like "Freaking Solar Roadways" and ignore all the small things that we could be doing now

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

Imagine if we became the land of Independence again? If we were free of energy constraints imagine how good THAT would be for the economy

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:18 PM

well when we extinct it wont matter....thats what they say,right?

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:19 PM

I would guess that at least 1/3 of our economy is based on fueling our economy...

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:19 PM★ Spotlighted

True Mitchell, but not all. How many of us have a garden?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:19 PM★ Spotlighted

There are a lot of building materials that are better and cheaper but are made more expensive by corporations.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:19 PM

im all for preventing that extinction part....

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:19 PM★ Spotlighted

lee you can stop plugging this talk on twitter ...we are already here homie

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:19 PM

the trouble is we aint allowed to think or do anything for ourselves. THATS why shit dont get done to help anyone

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:19 PM

Pretty sure so far

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM

I am trying to get a patent right now for a new solar cell that would boost a solar cells efficiency by 12%. That is how tough it is to make a small improvement in solar

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

I am all of Myspace.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM

but i am muahahahahahahahahaahha

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM

@Lee - only half full....

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM

Ha! Myspace

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM

That is awesome I will add that to my resume.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

Does the NSA track myspace?

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM

@Eleanor - i still have one of those. including tapes

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:20 PM

They follow me all day.

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:21 PM

its only josh on my space so no

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:21 PM

Let me go get my walkman and see if I can remember my Myspace password

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:21 PM

tape recorder ...now thats oldschool

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:21 PM★ Spotlighted

Nuclear energy is more problematic for me because we have not found an effective way disposing of nuclear waste.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:21 PM

yeah that tweet is creepy how funny but creepy yet funny

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:21 PM

yeah no nuclear unless we open back up to thorium

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:21 PM★ Spotlighted

If it isn't safe it shouldn't be done. Like drilling for oil or anything.

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:22 PM

I did just have a convo today about the solar road, however, and I was convinced that the idea would be much better suited for driveways and medians instead, due to wear and tear on glass.

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:22 PM★ Spotlighted

I saw that, Lee! Did you see the answering tweet from Wikileaks?

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:22 PM★ Spotlighted

getting rid of nuclear energy is like getting rid of plastic bags etc - its take bloody ages!

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:22 PM

Late to the party ... I LOVE (the idea of) SOLAR FREAKIN" ROADWAYS!!

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:22 PM

lee somebody posted on the cia twitter feed that ' i dont believe that you're only following 25 people"

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:22 PM

CIA said "we look forward to sharing unclassified info with you.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:22 PM

HAHAHAHA

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:22 PM

they still need to go

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

Wikileaks said "We look forward to sharing classified info to you"

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

we can move tons of sludge from canada to the gulf of mexico and drill down thousands of feet below the ocean but this THIS is to much work and money

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:23 PM

@lee - the fumes form decomposing bags?

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

We started charging people extra for plastic bags, a lot of people are getting the hint when it hits their wallets and pocketbooks.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:23 PM

if I'm buying like, one or two things, why do I need a plastic bag?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

I am waiting for the counter argument to solar energy to be that the sun light gives us cancer.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:23 PM

@Lee - but you get my point,right?

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:24 PM

that doesnt really work tony .. we in ireland get charged 25 cent per bag at the store

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:24 PM

And nobody talks about Keystone XL oil will only be shipped out of the country. Not for domestic use.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:24 PM★ Spotlighted

Lol, did you all see the argument that solar drains the sun?

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:24 PM

i have a drawer full of bags

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:24 PM

@ gregory. who said that?

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:24 PM

keystone is a terrible mistake

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:24 PM

they should congress/parliament to power those wind farm. they all have enough wind/hot air in them...

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM

Yeah that Hanover bit was a shocker

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

Wind and Solar are hands down the safest of the alternative fuels, in some other oil still has to be used.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM

Don't forget, we need to dispose of the radioactive waste from refining the XL pipeline tar sands. If we do it in the US, the canadians don't have to deal with the radioactive waste

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

We can use the waste to slime all of congress.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

I knoe

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM

downstream from a damn

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

I herd about that , supposedly it will take until 2090 to clean it all up

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM

with a 65 ft crack in it

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM

I hope they don't try to use that wastewater to melt snow and ice

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM

i know! didn't know about hanover either :(

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM

just start fracking with the waist

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

maybe they are waiting to see how Fukushima deals with it first

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

Nuclear energy is not worth the risk. Unless some brilliant scientist can find a way to recycle the waste.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

flush it down the drain lee ...everyone knows the drain is a magical thing that makes water disappear

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

For whatever reason, all the nuke plants that were planned in the late 60s/70s and built after that were all built near environmental hazards.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

Swimming pools for the rich. Special activated water.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

Nuclear waste into glass? That is insane!

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

I spent a lot of time in the 80s protesting and working with the Abalone Alliance ...

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:26 PM

They should have gone with Thorium but you can't make weapons with it

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:27 PM

We can't even get funding to talk about the waste. Long ago, the low level stuff was sold to drywall manufacturers to dispose of it by mixing with your house's drywall

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:27 PM★ Spotlighted

t's just like "hey! let's combine the two biggest lies on earth: that solar power is the greenest way to make electricity, and that open-air roadways are the best way to get around, and grab a lot of money from new-age-sheep!"

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 11:27 PM

Who be these fucking monkeys coming up with all kinds of stupid & sad excuse NOT to rapidly move forward with these solar panels...who they be?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:27 PM

Jeeeeez. Radioactive sludge poisoning our planet and they don't know how to get rid of it? How are solar roadways a bad idea again?

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:27 PM

the ones draggin ass on the green revolution, and on the solar power are the same rich old bastards that just fuckin refuse to die

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM

why do they keep calling it half life ...why is the one in the nuclear field such pessimists and should we trust them with nuclear stuff

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM

their spite keeps them alive

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM

@Mitchell. True. China made some godawful gypsum board.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM

Omg Seth you can't be serious

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM

ok, ever heard of vacuum tube transport?

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM★ Spotlighted

Seth what you said made no sense.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM

VERY GREEN

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM

I hope he was joking!

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM★ Spotlighted

He's serious.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM

sometimes satire can go too far

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM

trolling

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM

I'm actually serious, this solar roadway idea just creates more garbage,and distracts us from real solutions

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM

or he is a troll

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM

Like Crystal Meth smoking?

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

Eleanor, do the solar roadways use any water or need any water?

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM

I'm still oggling on the nuclear waste into glass thing? What does that mean? How is it made? Is it radioactive?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM

Nope.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM

I think the only argument anyone can make is. "Well we're gonna have an increase in the wildlife population. You know what that means, hide your vegetable gardens"

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

cold-nuclear power plants that run on the waste we have no idea what to do with should be a real "new age" priority, but we don't like to address the nuclear issue.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

Just cables to provide and extract electriciy.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM

what alternative ideas do you have in mind, seth, if i may ask

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

cool

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:30 PM

Good question Taunia

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:30 PM

for anyone who wants to know about solar highways,check out their website - http://www.solarroadways.com/intro.shtml

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:30 PM

Glass is made out of sand. I think we can find some

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:30 PM★ Spotlighted

so what about installing them to driveways first? what could they power there?

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:30 PM

Thanks seth. It is so hard when projects within our grasp, such as sewage to fuel, cannot get any coverage and Solar freeways get major headlines without the discussion of where to get the rare dopent material necessary to make the road solar

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:30 PM

I see this solar roadway thing as a money grab that takes advantage of how scarred people are right now.

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM

Taunia, yes, that is the expectation that they would go into driveways and walkways first ...

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM

What is this new age stuff, I don't get it?

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

we should be made to create our own electricity by pedalling some type of wheel ....then you can be damn sure that you didnt leave the iron on when you leave the house

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM

I think so too

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

More of a money grab than inflated gas prices?

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

yeah I do forget that sometimes.

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

Then on to sidewalks, streets, and move out into the infrastructure.

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

i thought it was just neil and bill nye

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

I like the idea that the roads can help wireless charge electric cars

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

So, how would the panel be able to produce enough wattage to support the 50 or so LED's in each panel? Considering the solar panel that they plan to use are only rated around 18% efficiency.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

In the words of J Lo You can go big or you can go home.

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

i like the idea of highspeed internet anywhere the roads are

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM★ Spotlighted

But the major thing is: roads are usually covered in cars. How does that work with solar?

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM★ Spotlighted

leds don't really need much energy

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

nick - chekc otut heir website. which i posted a link too earlier

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

They aren't covered at all times of the day.

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

could solar roadways start with individuals requesting solar driveways and how might it help to power homes?

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

bs lee everyone knows there is only two named dave and pete

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

If they helped to charge electric cars then that would be amazing, most of our energy problems would be over. Unless the climate changes....

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

Good portions of the day they are open to catch light.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

The same people want wireless electric car chargers are the same ones who want power lines chopped down for producing less powerful magnetic fields

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

only in LA

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

Did everyone watch the solar roadways video - there is a lot of information in there.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

You need to stop drinking.

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM

You csan power an LED light bulb with 3 lemons in a series circuit.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM★ Spotlighted

Stop smoking that synthetic weed and get your head right.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:33 PM

lmao

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:33 PM

you know,our lamp lights here work by solar power.

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:33 PM

Ok, so, we are not talking about paving bay area rush hour freeways, then

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:33 PM★ Spotlighted

You can also generate electricity from urine. But, that gets no headlines and we have a tremendous supply of it

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:33 PM

The red light cameras that work for the corporations that ruin your credit run on solar.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:33 PM

seth - have you been following this tawk at all?

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:33 PM★ Spotlighted

The roads are bare unless you live in DC or LA...

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:34 PM

bare most of the day....try sayin that to the poor bastards on the i95

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:34 PM

DC and LA have millions of empty driveways during the day

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

@Lee - would be the trickle down effect?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

I say we put congress to work in giant hamster wheels to provide us electricity. Paul Ryan is fit enough use him as a test round.

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

so this solar panel roadway is a good idea for long stretches of road with no congestion, but not heavily populated areas?

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

an unprotected solar cell can last 30 years. If you change the cover on it every thirty years it could last hundreds

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM

Its good for everywhere.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM★ Spotlighted

It's a good idea for EVERYWHERE

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM

even if we used the solar cell roads just on long open freeway, not in the city, how much power could be generated.

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM

Seth the solar roadway is senistive enough to pick up moonlight.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM

Parking lots. Drive ways sidewalks.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM

They would kill me.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM★ Spotlighted

I would like new construction of homes to follow zero energy models, they don't cost anymore than other constructed homes

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM★ Spotlighted

And what about the scary rise in birth defects in the 3 WA counties where Hanford Nuclear facility is? Do ya think there just might be a connection there?

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM★ Spotlighted

or we could hook a turbine up to the major "news" buildings and power america off their hot air

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM

I take it to Louisiana politicians. Even the democrats.

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

it would look like tron's world at night !

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:36 PM

UK should have 10 million homes with solar panels by 2020, experts say - http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/29/uk-10-million-homes-solar-panels-2020

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:36 PM

Folks tend to be like overeager prom dates, when it comes to solar.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:36 PM

You wouldn't need bright lights or reflectors because the road is lighted.

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:37 PM

oh not the deer, if you've ever lived in the forrest they are just giant mice..

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:37 PM★ Spotlighted

Exactly. The road would be smarter than 80% of America.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:37 PM

wouldnt deer be scared of the light anyways? and so wouldnt go near the roads?

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:37 PM

We shouldn't just plug them into our houses, and start sucking electric. That's short-term thinking.

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:37 PM★ Spotlighted

@Eleanor- We're talking trillions of led lights, not just one house with its roof covered in panels. I'm sorry but I have a hard time believing that this can work with our current society.

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

The Light Brigade could have a field day with those LEDs

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

our current society HAS to change

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

I'm a lighting designer, leds are cheap and barely use energy

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

LED use almost no electricity.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

The most efficient power that we could have is algae grown in our western deserts in sewage. It can completely replace petroleum and outperforms and drops into our vehicles without modification. No body goes hungry with sewage to fuel and it is a

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

This is where science is important children.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

with the need up infrastructure all of these changes would help the environment, get us on the road of energy independence and CREATE JOBS!!!

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

ok am i the only one who gets a blinding headache reading small text on a computer

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

Next to zero electrity

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

Then you don't end up like LameBron not drinking water and blaming no AC for you cramping up.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

@barry - enlarge it then

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM★ Spotlighted

If done properly, we could grown the output's value, and pay bills that way. If that's what ppl want.

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:38 PM

zoom in

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:39 PM

Everyone will donate their stashed boxes of Christmas lights to make it happen.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:39 PM

If you built solar panels in JUST ARIZONA! There is enough energy to power the entire country.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:39 PM

maybe these solar highways,if they save on electricity etc,they could be used to power shops n shit....

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM★ Spotlighted

Would anyone like a google hangout on sewage to fuel on Thursday?

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM

think of the possibilities

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM

lol lee

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM

I was gonna take the Solar Roadway and party with Rah.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM

@Lee Eleanor - yeah not all of ya are moths

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM

iwish we had enough folks in government that would comes to these roundhouse, idea tossing kinda meetings...

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM

LOL

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM

1st, build an economy around alt energy.

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM

Oil is almost gone - I don't think we'd be fracking and tar sanding if it wasn't.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:40 PM★ Spotlighted

Some dummy would try to drive to the sun if they were...

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

but if you are called Icarus?

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

Yes, arizona, california, new mexio, and oklahoma are all we need for all the continents electricity and we don't need repairs from driving on it

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

2nd, take the energy output value, and use it IN the economy.

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

Google glasses app with the solar roadways. that would be awesome

Joshua MooreJun 10, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

My political campaign which was based on Solar road ways in my city has fallen flat, mostly due to an error I made.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:42 PM

Ok everybody is looking at the negative of solar roadways. ( DOn't ask me how people find any) But lets look at the negatives of producing concrete and the process to pave that into a road.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:42 PM

of course john mccain would brand it a russian conspiracy

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:42 PM

Kimba is right, we are pass peak oil, we can't keep our heads in the sand and use more and more destructive ways to extracting oil and damaging the environment. Time for a change.

Joshua MooreJun 10, 2014, 11:42 PM★ Spotlighted

But I have been kicking around the idea of a long term political movement based on Technocratic ideals.

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:42 PM★ Spotlighted

I think all we need to do to sell the idea of the solar roadways to Americans is show them that bit about the embedded heaters that melt ice and snow.

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:42 PM

3rd, After it's circulated around the economy, THEN extract it for "power"

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:42 PM★ Spotlighted

where i live in nor cal we have 100 mile roads that maby 5 people travel down and we would love highspeed internet

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:42 PM

@joshua - here they re-use old bits of road to fill potholes or lay a road

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM

technocratic. You mean like real economist as treasurers instead of Federal Reserve lobbyists? Like that?

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM

The oligarchs are thinking long-term, and that's how they succeed over us.

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

@EL What do I feel like we have lose? Really? In this fuckin country, come on man. As much as I hate it, everything costs money, each one of our citizens is going to have to pay thousands in taxes just to get the panels...

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM

No more salt and no more car damage, selling that idea would be excellent.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM

Fort Calhoun nuclear actually started flooding a couple of years ago. If it had been inundated, we could have lost the midwest. Hardly a peep on the news

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM

@Lee - you know,your head will explode with all these super ideas. be careful

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM

http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=2927

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

Eleanor, yes absolutely - they do have a tiny test road on site.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM

to look into for shits and giggles

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

Already raised 2 million in donations.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:44 PM

http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=2927

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

These solar roads COULD be useful, but those at the top, won't allow it, if we're so obvious.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:44 PM

things you didn't know about dumping in our own back yard

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:44 PM

With the thousands of roads which are barely being used it would be a good place to start and not cost that much money and not disrupt traffic flow.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:44 PM

hey if we in the UK (for one country) can give people solar panels on their roofs at a reduced cost,why cant you guys?

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

nick..if they have the money to blow shit up then they have the money for a few solar panels

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

As a techie, it takes a lot for me to get excited about a tech project, but the whole solar road thing, had me almost jumping up and down with excitement.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

Fukushima already has a plan to deal with their nuclear problem. Ignore it and tell everyone everything is OK and threaten to break of diplomatic ties if anyone speaks up

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

GERMANY...have you been to there lately?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

You give them about 12 billion a year for the oil companies to pay no taxes and raise prices.

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:46 PM

plant hemp to absorb the radiation can be a start

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:46 PM

money can only do certain things, it's backwards to look at it as a power source.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:46 PM★ Spotlighted

grassroots and solar panels ...thats hippie talk eleanor

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:46 PM

Seth you are a troll and make no sense.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

2090 iis an estimate of when they could approach the areas of the cores with current technologies. Over the next century, the materials in the nuclear plant will change drastically and not always in a good way

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

@ Kimba - If solar roads excite u, have u seen the wireless car charging tech that could easily mix w/ it?

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM★ Spotlighted

Long live the hippies!

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

Hemp.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

lol

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM★ Spotlighted

All of you guys are totally right about the oil companies being fuckwads, I'm just over here asking questions

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM★ Spotlighted

No solar power opportunity should be wasted

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

nice

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

It can be used as a fuel.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

Textile.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

we woulda been better off if the hippuies were running things instead of greedy bastards

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

this is pretty neat

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/02/1303896/-New-silent-wind-turbine-could-generate-half-of-a-homes-electric-needs-says-company-The-Archimedes

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

did we talk about cold-nuclear enough? does everyone know about that or not?

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:47 PM

mother nature is trying to give us something to use instead of fossil fuels and all we can do is go "now what can we use instead of coal and oil?" i swear she is going nuts!

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

The Hippies are running things.

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

Cas: The wireless cars scare the crap out of me - mostly because the are managed by google. BUT, I do like the idea of driverless cars.

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

mmmmm, green smoothie

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

They are sell out corporate fuckwads.

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

solar panels in space

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

lol, then they WERE hippies.....

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

with the decrease on cost of solar panels I think people should have more incentives to have them. Also geothermal!

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM

the bill-gates model of cold-nuclear uses nuclear waste to generate power, so it solves one problem we can't really deal with any other way.

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:48 PM★ Spotlighted

There is a term called insolation for how good a place is for using solar energy. Germany's insolation is very bad and they are still able to generate a large portion of their power with solar

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM

My wifes parents still act like Hippies and then have this conservative bullshit come out their mouth. Its really hard to explain things to him.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM★ Spotlighted

tidal...ohhhh the surfers wont like somebody stealing their rad breaks dude

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM★ Spotlighted

That is why they hate solar and wind.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM★ Spotlighted

a planned wind farm near me - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26064814

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM

@ Lee- Ways around the "top dogs", but it needs to be sneaky like them. They literally have their "feelers out these days.

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM

Solar Thermal plants

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM

my parents are hippies. they taught us to love each other, and our planet

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM★ Spotlighted

I'm just thinking we're gonna need around 2 billions tiles to cover most of our roadways,

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:49 PM★ Spotlighted

Tidal needs to be done properly or the sea life will be hurt

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

(The US has about the best insolation in the world with areas of accessable land. The andes and Himalayas mess up the other good locations

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

I grew up with a natural gas line on my Grandma's property. She was a mini-mogul, running natural gas to all the neighboring properties. :)

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM★ Spotlighted

The sun is the best and most abundant form of free energy.

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

and the excuses for NOT building wind farms - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638335/Wind-farm-dwarf-Isle-Wight.html

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM★ Spotlighted

We have to spread the word, so many people are so busy surviving it is easy to miss the big picture.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

The government gives 600 billion to the department of defense to build tanks and planes we don't need while ignoring the needs of soldiers.

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM★ Spotlighted

and I understand that money being raised is just for research, but what if they decide to implement the idea who's gonna pay for it then?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

I think we can take money from that.

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM★ Spotlighted

Lobster fisherman are fighting Tidal energy here in Maine

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/solar-plant-achieves-supercritical-steam

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

what happen to the torus power?

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

This tiny little text field makes it difficult to write well formed sentences.

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

exactly, the whole mentality has to change, people have to evolve

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:50 PM

the Archimedes wind turbine, only 5K$ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/02/1303896/-New-silent-wind-turbine-could-generate-half-of-a-homes-electric-needs-says-company-The-Archimedes

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM

did that get flushed?

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM

Energy sources, no. Batteries, yes. Ever heard of a pumped storage device or reservoir?

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM

I like lobster.

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM

Basically, the topic is nuclear fall-out, and we haven't talked about ways to make electricity from nuclear waste, and bringing it up gets me called a troll.. so.. yeah. not much hope for this crowd.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM★ Spotlighted

2 billion tiles can be done no problem, if we have money for wars can can definitely do this. It will save money in the long run.

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM

not really joshua ...have you every seen a small kid whacked out of their skull on sweets and pepsi

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM★ Spotlighted

did you know there was a conference on tidal wave energy in february? - http://www.renewableuk.com/en/renewable-energy/wave-and-tidal/

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM★ Spotlighted

I testified at a hearing for windfarms here. You would not believe what people claimed about windfarms. People would have their 10 children lined up crying that they don't want to die because windmills are "proven" to cause abortions in llamas

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:51 PM

I can't understand why we can't pull power from nuclear waste

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

@EL on the site it's asking for one million, they would need trillions to cover that cost, a couple thousand per citizen

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:52 PM

The government prints money at will Nick.

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 11:52 PM

hemp and the SUN will do a lot of the much needed work.

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:52 PM

We totally have money for the solar roadwy project!

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

money doesn't do a damn thing. there is a finite amount of resources being used by people and it's strictly controlled. money is just an illusion.

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:52 PM

They have money for wars, but cant cant feed the poor

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:52 PM

not everyone in jail is there wrongfully....

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:52 PM

We just need to start running for political offices ourselves so we can vote these kinds of projects in.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

If you know a way of making electricity from nuclear waste and making it safe, you would be a multi-billionaire.

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

@Lee Dude you're totally right, but what do you think the chances that they're gonna spend even one cent of there "kill shit" money to help the world?

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

I have pulled power from nuclear waste. We had a problem with our sources emitting ions on eachother. Overnight, a charge over 30,000 volts would build and knock our material handlers on their asses

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

Joshua is correct. If the Federal Reserve wanted solar freakin' roadways, the money would be printed tomorrow

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

@Lee - but then you wouldn't look like the big bully you guys seem to want to appear. "my gun is bigger than you gun"

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

Its an illusion you need to get some of unless you like living on the street Seth.

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

see, you like that kind of troll shit 9: but not the cold nuclear talk..

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

that would be a great thing to do with killers and rapist. put them to work making tiles....

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

they needed the million for start up capital, lol by their success already imagine how much more they will enjoy

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

well Tawkers is super constructive, as always

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

According to the Supreme Court money is also speech (but that is a different topic)

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM

so, what are we at now? rebel solar roadways?

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

Yep Tony spot on... Good show.

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

No we are at Seth is a troll.

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

oligarchy

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM★ Spotlighted

Feel free to e-mail me at energy@heldt.org if you have any energy questions

David BrooksJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM★ Spotlighted

seth hates this idea so much he will say anything to kill it

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

i would invite you all here to my island. is fucking gorgeous here,sunny,and it aint as fucked up as over there. oh and i have cookies :-)

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

Solar roadwas and high-speed trains ...

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

Money is an IDEA, a step over barter. Currency is different. It's the fake paper we use today, that's designed w/ a HUGE flaw.

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

Lucy has cookies!

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

"We had to take matters in our own hands and build the solar roadways, many good men died, but in the end we made it through."

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:54 PM

I like cookies

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:55 PM

ok mitchell....my email reads can we please have some more energy

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:55 PM

Magnetic Levitation trains

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:55 PM

yes Dawn i most certainly do!!! and whiskey for Lee...and beer for the rest of us....

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

I Invite everybody to New Orleans. So you can see how government funding can rebuild and create a booming economy. And how the rich destroy the poor to create and Utopia.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:55 PM

It has been a great discussion.. well except from the troll.

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

@EL well I'm kinda focusing on full on implementation of this idea and who is going to end up suffering for it.

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:55 PM

@Joshua I was there in 2008, helping clean up a bit.

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM

so.. how about that nuclear fallout?

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM

High speed rail!

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM★ Spotlighted

eleanor ..what you are not experts ....but the flyers i got stated otherwise

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM

I demod diamagnetic levitation at an energy talk I gave for an Iowa school last month. Diamagnetic is done at room temp and really freaked the kids out

Dawn AdamsJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM

I love new orleans, too!

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM

i really need to come to america and see this just how shit all this is. i have so much to look forward to

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM

Probably the corporations who loose out from being outdated.

Cas DavisJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM★ Spotlighted

Ok..... My eyes and brain hurt, now. Going back to nice, slow-moving fakebook. Bye guys! :)

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:56 PM

Nick, the money we would save on energy costs would be where the money comes from, also people are going to be buying the product, theres the money

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:57 PM

Faceache.

Seth MatriscianoJun 10, 2014, 11:57 PM

real power: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/business/energy-environment/atomic-goal-800-years-of-power-from-waste.html

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:57 PM

I am only on Faceache to counter the ignorant Jesus posts.

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:57 PM

are 13 minutes up yet? Are we there yet?

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:57 PM

look,there will always be pros and cons to evey idea. its a fact of life. thats why we have to see if there is ANY way to level the playing field and make stuff work. right?

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:57 PM

Triple whammy there. Fukushima, Hanford, and the other nuke issues all come together near seattle

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

Lee you saw my comment earlier?

alex rojasJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM

Great talk today

Nick PopeJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM

Good Tawk

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM

Awesome

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM

Thanks!

Barry HamillJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM

ok you guys go put your feet up

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

JIndal signed a law to make it illegal for us to Sue Oil companies for destroying the coast.

Taunia RobertsJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM

nice butt, thanks

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM

Just happened this week.

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

@LeeI will check out the show, I subscribe to your podcast which you haven't been posting on hint hint

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:58 PM

thanks for tawk Eleanor and Lee. oh and Lee? fucking love the show dude!

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

yeah what tony said....

Gregory StevensJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

Yeah I saw that about Tindall, why aren't the mobs at his home?

kimba kradelJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

Go retweet my last tweet!

Tony CarrJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

Now I feel stupid!

Chell LynchJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM★ Spotlighted

@lee ~ show is great , humorously informative :)

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

It is just a matter of management really. Now, it seems like the DEAbp and their ilk are managing these unbelievable resources. There needs to be an immediate turning over awayyy from fromrom

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

holy shit! a new podcast? (falls off chair)

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

Louisiana is filled with morons

Joshua RichouxJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

Have you watched Duck Dynasty?

Mitchell HeldtJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

I would love to see someone with an attitude like Lee be president

Lucy DyerJun 10, 2014, 11:59 PM

they should do a Duck Face Dynasty

Tony CarrJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM

Good night

Joshua RichouxJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM★ Spotlighted

The Orleans Levee district had a lawsuit in the pipeline.

Dawn AdamsJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM

Good night

Joshua RichouxJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM

Now they have this law passed and killed it.

Lucy DyerJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM

@Lee - did you get the ones i sent ya?

Lucy DyerJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM

ack never mind....

Dawn AdamsJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM

Ok, Lee. Will keep my ear to the ground. I do anyway, though.

alex rojasJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM

Faith in humanity : Restored!

Joshua RichouxJun 11, 2014, 12:00 AM

I have a podcast.

Joshua RichouxJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

www.facebook.com/truthseeking101

Mitchell HeldtJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

Two and a half more years of "how can I help the republicans" from Obama then we get Hillary in to help the banksters. Why do the republicans even need to run. We have it covered

Johnathonfall thethirdJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

.good morningod

Joshua RichouxJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

To keep the people arguing with themselves.

Dawn AdamsJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

I just liked your page, Josh. Find me and friend me

Chell LynchJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

all bull aside, i really hope that we find some alternative fast..... hate what i am leaving behind for my daughter :(

Barry HamillJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishcentral.com%2Fnews%2FReligious-orders-allowed-over-2000-Irish-children-to-be-used-in-medical-experiments.html&ei=WZyXU873NcitO5bngFg

David BrooksJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

Joshua RichouxJun 11, 2014, 12:01 AM

Awesome thank you.

Mitchell HeldtJun 11, 2014, 12:02 AM

Thanks for the podcast link Joshua

Joshua RichouxJun 11, 2014, 12:03 AM

No worries Wednesdays at 8 pm CST

Chell LynchJun 11, 2014, 12:03 AM

i gotta split everyone :)

Chell LynchJun 11, 2014, 12:04 AM

thanks for some ACTUAL intelligent conversation :)