Blake Ian

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Table Tawk: A Discussion on Poker Strategy

May 1, 2013·50 visitors

Kenna James

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May 1, 2013

Blake Ian · 2:00 AM

We have liftoff!

Kenna James · 2:00 AM

Hey Kid, good to Tawk to you again.

Blake Ian · 2:01 AM

Always great Tawking to you as well... I have been looking forward to this discussion for a while, my Cash game can certainly use it!

Blake Ian · 2:01 AM

Before we get started though....

Blake Ian · 2:01 AM

I just want to take a minute and throw out some TIPS for our new Tawkers joining us tonight.

Kenna James · 2:01 AM

cool

Blake Ian · 2:01 AM

Be sure to go to the Audience tab at the bottom to find others that are in the room, and hit the LISTEN button to have their comments appear for you in the forum. (Refresh the page after Listening to new people)

Blake Ian · 2:01 AM

Hit the LIKE button on other’s comments if you find them awesome! This will help them get Overheard and shown to everyone, including the Hosts (Kenna and I)

Blake Ian · 2:02 AM

Remember... Kenna and I will ONLY see the comments that get voted up to be Overheard so if your comment isn’t OH we dont see it!

Blake Ian · 2:02 AM

You’ll find more tips like this at the very bottom of the page in the ad banner! Enjoy!

Blake Ian · 2:02 AM

ok now that the formalities are behind us

Kenna James · 2:02 AM

Nice! I'm excited for this new platform, thanks for inviting me.

Kenna James · 2:03 AM

So...let's tawk some poker!

Blake Ian · 2:03 AM

Awesome.

Blake Ian · 2:03 AM

OK so I gave some thought about how I'd like to open this up

Blake Ian · 2:03 AM

We were on the phone the other day having one of our multi-tangential conversations

Kenna James · 2:04 AM

lol - Tangential...already raising me I see....

Blake Ian · 2:04 AM

and you asked me an excellent question, but to be honest it's one in which I think everyone joining us would benefit more from your answer than mine!

Blake Ian · 2:04 AM

(Oh yeah I'm bringing the big words to the Tawk tonight sir!)

Kenna James · 2:05 AM

ok...so what's the "excellent" question....???

Blake Ian · 2:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Sometimes poker is SO flushtrating!”

Blake Ian · 2:05 AM

Haha JB... thanks for a Punny beginning.

Kenna James · 2:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sharon Liss

“So there is no sound to this?”

Blake Ian · 2:06 AM

So the question was KJ, "What is poker all about to you?" or some form of that!

Kenna James · 2:06 AM

No Sharon.....turn on some good music in the back round and enjoy!

Kenna James · 2:07 AM

Oh, yeah....you know the reason I asked you that?

Blake Ian · 2:07 AM

I do not... but like I said... I can't help but think, monstrous ego aside, that the people would rather hear your answer.

Kenna James · 2:08 AM

Well, I asked you because before we can even Tawk strategy....it's good to have a purpose for playing the game.

Kenna James · 2:08 AM

I find that many are not clear on their purpose or that it is convoluted

Kenna James · 2:08 AM

YOUR GAME STRATEGY SHOULD ALWAYS FIT YOUR PURPOSE IN PLAYING THE GAME

Kenna James · 2:09 AM

So, I believe it's important to be clear on how you got started playing the game and what your purpose is in playing it.

Blake Ian · 2:10 AM

With poker and all other aspects of life, but poker tends to parallel other areas on a pretty consistent basis don't it.

Kenna James · 2:10 AM

For sure.

Kenna James · 2:10 AM

For some it's a social game...for others it may be about having the best hand....

Kenna James · 2:11 AM

For me....I play it professionally....and the successful pros that I know play it for the challenge of making profitable decisions

Blake Ian · 2:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Isn't winning the unifying reason?”

Blake Ian · 2:11 AM

Jordan asks an interesting question here

Kenna James · 2:12 AM

He does....let me ask Jordan a question....if I may

Blake Ian · 2:12 AM

I guess though.. what Kenna is saying is "how do you define winning"

Blake Ian · 2:12 AM

did I beat you to it?!

Kenna James · 2:12 AM

EXACTLY!

Kenna James · 2:12 AM

LOL

Blake Ian · 2:12 AM

(smiling with self gratification)

Kenna James · 2:12 AM

What is winning to you?

Blake Ian · 2:12 AM

Well so let's answer the question starting there

Blake Ian · 2:13 AM

I guess you already did, since you play professionally, much of the time winning means financially profitable

Kenna James · 2:13 AM

Is winning making money - defeating someone else - outlasting the field? Feeling good? Making the right decisions?

Blake Ian · 2:13 AM

not to say you don't have other profits in mind, but the major type of profit you are after

Kenna James · 2:14 AM

Profitable decision making, Yes. Financially or otherwise is what is important to me.

Blake Ian · 2:14 AM

I tend to enjoy the game more than the money, I enjoy a tournament infinitely more than a cash game for starters, and I tend to not care as much about the stakes of a tournament... in other words it doesn't effect how badly I want to win.

Blake Ian · 2:15 AM

so outlasting the field for sure means a lot to me

Blake Ian · 2:15 AM

I like to figure things out

Blake Ian · 2:15 AM

and figuring out how to win a tournament is a long and arduous puzzle

Blake Ian · 2:15 AM

and completely unique each time

Kenna James · 2:16 AM

You win a tournament by outlasting everybody else in it I think.

Blake Ian · 2:17 AM

well yes but figuring out how to outlast them!

Kenna James · 2:18 AM

I see Jeff Shulman is in the forum - he's an awesome tournament player - and seems to have figured a lot of the game out.

Blake Ian · 2:18 AM

Whoa Jeff Shulman? Ok now I have to step up my game!

Kenna James · 2:18 AM

Yes, it's different every time. But what if it had a lot more to do with YOU then you ever realized?

Blake Ian · 2:18 AM

Ladies and gentlemen Jeff Shulman... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Shulman

Blake Ian · 2:19 AM

Well thats yet another parallel to life in general, how often do we realize the only way to solve an issue with someone else has mostly to do with ourselves?

Kenna James · 2:19 AM

Nice! Welcome. Anyway, I think Attitude has so much to do with it, even before we get to the specifics of strategy.

Kenna James · 2:19 AM

BING! I agree.

Blake Ian · 2:20 AM

Man there are some great questions being voted up from the audience already... ok let me take a minute to ask you some basic questions I had jotted down here ok?

Kenna James · 2:20 AM

Attitude effects everything we do.

Kenna James · 2:20 AM

sure

Kenna James · 2:21 AM

One more thing about Attitude, before we get to your questions.....

Blake Ian · 2:21 AM

sure

Kenna James · 2:21 AM

Know that ATTITUDE is reflected in everything you do.....

Blake Ian · 2:21 AM

bite me

Kenna James · 2:21 AM

How you dress, how you walk up to the table, how you sit and most importantly....how others perceive you.

Blake Ian · 2:21 AM

Hahahah sorry sometimes I have a funny thought and I HAVE to go with it

Blake Ian · 2:21 AM

haha

Blake Ian · 2:22 AM

Totally agree

Kenna James · 2:22 AM

no worries....

Kenna James · 2:22 AM

And btw - I define Attitude as your view of your self.

Kenna James · 2:22 AM

okay, so .... questions.... I'm starting to ramble.

Blake Ian · 2:23 AM

Ok here we go..

Blake Ian · 2:23 AM

What "Type" of poker player would you say you were?

Blake Ian · 2:23 AM

I went straight to this one because I think it brings in a question in the audience by Mr Brinbaum

Blake Ian · 2:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Do most pros know the mathematical odds cold? Or s it a "feel" thing?”

Kenna James · 2:24 AM

Professional with an upbeat attitude that plays a complex game of getting my opponents guessing and then getting them to guess wrong.

Kenna James · 2:24 AM

In competition, one of my goals is to keep my opponent off balance.

Blake Ian · 2:24 AM

Like Judo!

Blake Ian · 2:25 AM

Do you use his own energy against him to do this?

Kenna James · 2:25 AM

Since human beings tend to find safety in predictability....I try to put unpredictability into their universe....which is usually perceived as threatening.

Blake Ian · 2:25 AM

ahhh

Kenna James · 2:25 AM

Good question. Sometimes.

Kenna James · 2:26 AM

But usually I like to take the lead.

Kenna James · 2:26 AM

★ Spotlighted from Michelle Hamilton

“Hey Kenna:)”

Blake Ian · 2:26 AM

OK so looking at your description, we kind of covered "Professional" - Let's look at attitude

Kenna James · 2:26 AM

Hi Michelle

Kenna James · 2:27 AM

okay

Blake Ian · 2:27 AM

Nice Scott... good timing!

Kenna James · 2:27 AM

So important

Blake Ian · 2:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Scott Williams

“i love kenna's attitude, its infectuious... (think i just made a word up, lol)”

Kenna James · 2:28 AM

I do like to infect or inject others for sure....lol

Blake Ian · 2:28 AM

So my question is... How do you maintain your attitude during tough times?

Kenna James · 2:28 AM

Ah....

Kenna James · 2:29 AM

The attitude of a professional -- doesn't let the situation rob him of his attitude.

Kenna James · 2:29 AM

He can lose the pot, the hand or the tournament, but should never lose his attitude.

Kenna James · 2:30 AM

The key is to see them as seperate

Kenna James · 2:30 AM

Differentiating between a result and you, I guess

Blake Ian · 2:30 AM

What steps, exercises, practices etc. help you to keep that ability strong?

Blake Ian · 2:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sharon Liss

“How do you maintain your attitude on bad beats, bad calls, and bad play against you?”

Kenna James · 2:31 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jennifer Winter

“Is that chat available later for review? Does anyone know?”

Blake Ian · 2:31 AM

Yes Jennifer it's all documented forever : )

Blake Ian · 2:31 AM

So KJ, how do you do it... What Sharon and I are asking

Blake Ian · 2:32 AM

Is it the realization that the outcome is better for you in the long run?

Kenna James · 2:32 AM

Don't let your attitude be effected by your circumstances, it's amateurish. You must learn to differentiate YOU from your EXPERIENCE.

Kenna James · 2:32 AM

Your attitude should be based in your decisions.

Blake Ian · 2:32 AM

Man does this guy play poker on a deep spiritual level or what folks!?

Blake Ian · 2:33 AM

You are the Deepak of the felt

Kenna James · 2:33 AM

LOL - one guy called me the Fuxxxxx Socrates of Poker once...I don't think he meant it as a compliment

Kenna James · 2:34 AM

So maintaining an attitude...how do you do it?

Kenna James · 2:34 AM

Good question.

Kenna James · 2:34 AM

First: You must be willing to work hard and look at your self and notice what effects you.

Kenna James · 2:35 AM

What happened that effected your attitude? Write it down...

Kenna James · 2:35 AM

You want to make note of it either way....Positively or Good / Negatively or Bad

Blake Ian · 2:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“My friend says that if you get upset over a hand, you haven't played enough cards.”

Kenna James · 2:36 AM

If it effects you and you get overly excited....that's just as bad as letting it get you overly upset

Kenna James · 2:38 AM

A professional maintains an even keel to steer the ship through the reefs (bad beats) of the tournament. Doesn't let him/herself get too high or to low. They learn to manage it.

Kenna James · 2:38 AM

So make note Sharon of those times.

Blake Ian · 2:38 AM

What I remembered becoming clear early on was the concept of getting annoyed about the last hand, made me play the next hands poorly.

Blake Ian · 2:39 AM

That was very obvious pretty quickly

Blake Ian · 2:39 AM

then you are off course, zigging when you should be zagging, and it's hard to break that pattern

Blake Ian · 2:39 AM

When you win a tournament you experience the exact opposite, you have that "can do no wrong" feeling

Kenna James · 2:39 AM

What about the last hand annoyed you?

Kenna James · 2:40 AM

We can do an example using you....for Sharon and the group.

Blake Ian · 2:40 AM

I had the best hand, I played it correctly, the other guy played it poorly, the other guy is stacking my chips

Blake Ian · 2:40 AM

haha

Kenna James · 2:40 AM

AH....the best hand.....

Kenna James · 2:40 AM

story

Blake Ian · 2:40 AM

For sure the gut reaction is ANNOYED!

Kenna James · 2:40 AM

You have a limited viewpoint.

Kenna James · 2:41 AM

FYI - The best hand is the one that wins the pot.

Blake Ian · 2:41 AM

When I say best hand I mean, at the time of betting

Blake Ian · 2:41 AM

Like pre flop I am dealt a stronger hand than mine opponent

Blake Ian · 2:41 AM

on the flop I am still ahead

Blake Ian · 2:41 AM

and so on

Kenna James · 2:42 AM

Ah, so you didn't like how things developed....

Blake Ian · 2:42 AM

and I play it well, and the other person pulls a lucky out

Kenna James · 2:42 AM

they didn't work out in "your favor"

Blake Ian · 2:42 AM

right

Kenna James · 2:42 AM

Good.

Blake Ian · 2:42 AM

now over the course of time I understand that I just want to keep doing what I did

Blake Ian · 2:43 AM

but at the moment, the instinct is to be upset.

Blake Ian · 2:43 AM

I believe that's what Sharon is referring to

Kenna James · 2:43 AM

Being able to face a situation AS IT IS and NOT how you want it to be, is definitely a key to keeping a professional attitude.

Kenna James · 2:44 AM

The situation is the HAND WAS LOST....How you respond to it will tell you about YOU.

Kenna James · 2:44 AM

If it breaks you....your an amateur

Kenna James · 2:45 AM

If it doesn't phase you and you learn about your self in the process and move forward....your a professional

Blake Ian · 2:45 AM

Got it, and I have certainly come a long way in getting upset by bad beats and such... and for sure I have learned a lot about myself by working on that skill

Blake Ian · 2:45 AM

Kenna James · 2:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sharon Liss

“I always try to put myself in the other person's shoes. Maybe I was giving off something that made them play the way they did. Maybe I would have played the same way if I was them. I try not to get upset about a hand, but some time that is hard.”

Blake Ian · 2:45 AM

let's move into some less abstract and psychological factors

Kenna James · 2:46 AM

That's responsibility right there. Good comment.

Kenna James · 2:46 AM

How did I contribute to this situation, is always a good question to ask yourself.

Kenna James · 2:46 AM

Okay, sounds good.

Blake Ian · 2:46 AM

Let's Tawk about hand selection... What do you consider when deciding to play a hand dealt to you?

Blake Ian · 2:47 AM

I should say deciding whether or NOT to play a hand dealt to you

Kenna James · 2:47 AM

Hmmm...good question. A few things really. In order of priority...they would be....

Kenna James · 2:48 AM

Chips - Risk vs. Reward Table Position - Last to act or out of position

Kenna James · 2:48 AM

Hand Value - strength of my hand AND finally Opponent - their hand range

Kenna James · 2:48 AM

and probably in that order

Kenna James · 2:49 AM

It's important to know the important factors of your consideration and prioritize them

Blake Ian · 2:49 AM

Wow, Im surprised

Kenna James · 2:49 AM

So you can make a PROFITABLE DECISION...lol.

Kenna James · 2:50 AM

at what?

Blake Ian · 2:50 AM

From lessons with you... I would have thought table position would be first

Kenna James · 2:50 AM

Ah....If you don't have the money to play the hand, what difference does position make?

Kenna James · 2:51 AM

Financial position is always stronger then Table position

Blake Ian · 2:51 AM

Ok good to know

Kenna James · 2:51 AM

All things equal, table position becomes more important

Blake Ian · 2:52 AM

I was about to ask... its more common that your chip position will be somewhat equal and table position will be considered

Kenna James · 2:52 AM

Actually SKILL - being in a position of being highly skilled is more important then table position I think also

Blake Ian · 2:52 AM

but I see how chip position comes first if it is a factor

Kenna James · 2:53 AM

Which is why someone like Tom Dwan can often give up table position and still outplay his opponents a high percentage of the time...but he is always aware of where he is at, I'm sure

Kenna James · 2:54 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Then how has Hellmuth been successful?”

Kenna James · 2:54 AM

He's not in Cash Games...he's a big loser I believe

Kenna James · 2:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Alex Spiers

“whos the better skilled player...the guy that wins 1 out of 100 tourneys or the guy who cashes 15 outa 100?”

Blake Ian · 2:55 AM

KJ, I hate to hand the keys over to the inmates, but there are just SO many good questions coming from the audience.

Blake Ian · 2:55 AM

Im going to let you answer a couple of these and sit back for a minute

Kenna James · 2:56 AM

Good question Alex. Depends on your purpose and definition of winning. If your purpose is to WIN tournaments, then the guy who wins the 1 out of 100.If your purpose is to make money, then whichever one won the most money.

Blake Ian · 2:57 AM

For your purpose Kenna

Blake Ian · 2:57 AM

which outcome is better?

Kenna James · 2:57 AM

Today? The guy who wins the money. A few years ago? the guy who won the tournament.

Blake Ian · 2:57 AM

haha good answer... and an honest one

Blake Ian · 2:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from John McDonell

“I would say the more consistent player is the better one. anyone could get lucky go on a roll and win once”

Kenna James · 2:58 AM

Yesterday I was more into the "glory" today I'm more into feeding my family and survival....lol

Kenna James · 2:58 AM

Good point John.

Blake Ian · 2:59 AM

I agree

Kenna James · 2:59 AM

I define SKILL as doing something well.

Blake Ian · 2:59 AM

if you were looking for an employee would you prefer one that is consistent or had one great success and no others?

Kenna James · 2:59 AM

One guy is skilled at making money, the other is skilled at winning a tournament it sounds like to me.

Blake Ian · 2:59 AM

With John's point I might redefine it as doing something well consistently

Blake Ian · 3:00 AM

someone with no scientific knowledge can accidentally happen upon a formula, but what use is it if he can't recreate it.

Kenna James · 3:00 AM

For employees....I would look for one that is a good worker. One who likes to work and doesn't treat it as a job.

Kenna James · 3:00 AM

Good workers are hard to find.

Blake Ian · 3:00 AM

haha ok here we go getting TANGENTIAL again... My bad this time

Kenna James · 3:01 AM

All questions will be answered! lol.

Blake Ian · 3:01 AM

Bringing it back to the world of cards... Let's Tawk opponents.

Kenna James · 3:01 AM

Blake Ian · 3:02 AM

When you are looking to READ an opponent, what are you looking for? I would love for you to give some basic fundamentals there

Blake Ian · 3:02 AM

I think people feel its a bit more "mysterious" or magical than it actually is right?

Kenna James · 3:02 AM

Sure. First thing I look for is their hand frequency. How many hands does this guy play an orbit.

Kenna James · 3:02 AM

That tells me the kind of hands he's playing.

Blake Ian · 3:03 AM

His range right? :)

Blake Ian · 3:03 AM

Sorry I knew something so I got excited.. go on!

Kenna James · 3:03 AM

Exactly! The second thing I look at is...the style in which he plays his/her hands.

Kenna James · 3:04 AM

Aggressive / Passive / Passive-Aggressive / Solid, etc.

Kenna James · 3:04 AM

So the first is quantified as Loose or Tight and the second as I said

Kenna James · 3:04 AM

But they are DIFFERENT. Important to note that.

Blake Ian · 3:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from Scott Williams

“I love the hand chart you have for that Kenna”

Blake Ian · 3:04 AM

is there a link to the Hand Chart online KJ?

Kenna James · 3:04 AM

How a guy plays his hand is different then the number of hands he plays.

Kenna James · 3:05 AM

No. Scott is an old student of mine and it is privileged information. lol.

Blake Ian · 3:06 AM

Ahh Lucky guy

Blake Ian · 3:06 AM

Ok so, if a guy plays many hands aggressively... what does that tell you the best way to play against him is?

Kenna James · 3:07 AM

sry, got a phone call

Kenna James · 3:08 AM

so that means he's what we call a LAG player or Loose/Aggressive player type

Blake Ian · 3:08 AM

Is that the easiest player to play against, or are all types equal?

Kenna James · 3:08 AM

These players often give regulars a really tough time and nobody knows what to do, is that correct?

Kenna James · 3:09 AM

All types are not equal..all types are different....

Kenna James · 3:10 AM

The easiest type to play against is the Loose/Passive traditionally.

Blake Ian · 3:10 AM

ahh

Blake Ian · 3:10 AM

There seems to be a question from the Forum that demands our attention!

Blake Ian · 3:11 AM

Kelly Scott is having that age old issue.... What to do with Pocket AA :)

Blake Ian · 3:11 AM

I know you love this one

Kenna James · 3:11 AM

I think The best strategy against the Loose/Aggressive player is Solid/Aggressive

Blake Ian · 3:11 AM

so I think you should have a go at it, and then maybe we should reconvene next Tuesday same place, same time. What do you think?

Kenna James · 3:11 AM

Ah...okay. Pocket Aces!!!

Blake Ian · 3:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Kelly Scott

“whats the best way to play pocket AA's? they seem to get me everytime just about”

Kenna James · 3:12 AM

Sure. sounds good.

Kenna James · 3:12 AM

How to play aces....Okay, here's my crack at it.

Kenna James · 3:12 AM

#1 Tip: Don't get "overly attached" to any hand, especially Aces.

Kenna James · 3:13 AM

Aces will end off making usually what you start with....One Pair.

Kenna James · 3:13 AM

Think about it....In No Limit your goal is to win an opponents entire stack...not win pots.

Kenna James · 3:14 AM

For you to do that, they must be willing to risk and put all their chips in the middle.

Kenna James · 3:14 AM

This usually requires them to have more then ONE PAIR!

Kenna James · 3:15 AM

Aces play best when you are up against KK's or QQ's or AK, because those are the type of hands that some players are willing to risk their entire stack on Pre Flop!

Kenna James · 3:15 AM

Remember, the more cards to come, the more your fate is in the hands of the dealer!

Kenna James · 3:15 AM

Anyway....back to Aces.

Kenna James · 3:16 AM

Since you are looking for someone to have one of those 3 hands, there is no need to slow play them pre-flop.

Kenna James · 3:17 AM

My suggestion is bet them big and hope someone else wakes up with a hand or makes a move pre-flop on you.

Blake Ian · 3:17 AM

that makes so much sense

Kenna James · 3:17 AM

NEVER slow play them!

Blake Ian · 3:17 AM

because I think people get frustrated

Blake Ian · 3:17 AM

when they pull in a tiny pot pre flop with Aces, like they wasted them, but the reality is they successfully avoided losing to a set of 4s

Kenna James · 3:17 AM

If you win a small pot, or the blinds, which often happens, it just means no one else had a big hand.

Blake Ian · 3:18 AM

or a wheel

Blake Ian · 3:18 AM

haha

Kenna James · 3:18 AM

Yes...

Kenna James · 3:18 AM

Okay, so you wanna pick this discussion up next week?

Blake Ian · 3:18 AM

OK KJ, well I think we should save the rest for next tuesday's Tawk and then every Tuesday after that... yeah?

Blake Ian · 3:18 AM

haha great mind!

Blake Ian · 3:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“The poker gods HATE slowplay”

Blake Ian · 3:19 AM

Thanks everyone for joining and for your excellent comments and questions

Kenna James · 3:19 AM

Yeah, let's try it and give it a go...I love Tawking Poker!

Blake Ian · 3:19 AM

join us here every Tuesday night in this Tawk, same link, 10PM EST (7PM PST)

Blake Ian · 3:19 AM

Notice how I put your time in parenthesis Kenna?

Kenna James · 3:20 AM

Cool. Enjoy the Journey everyone!

Blake Ian · 3:20 AM

like its less important than my timezone! New Yawkers!

Kenna James · 3:20 AM

Love it.

Kenna James · 3:20 AM

Cheers mate!

Blake Ian · 3:20 AM

Also, everyone don't forget to come back here anytime and leave more comments, and if you have a lot to say, grab a Co-Host and HOST YOUR OWN TAWK!

Blake Ian · 3:20 AM

See ya'll!

Blake Ian · 3:21 AM

For more info on Kenna James and his teaching check out his site. http://www.acesuccessfulpokerlife.com

Blake Ian · 3:22 AM

(For those who come late... Hit the TOP button at the top right of the page and it will bring you back to the beginning)

Blake Ian · 3:22 AM

oops... top left hahha. Night!

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Michelle HamiltonApr 30, 2013, 2:04 AM★ Spotlighted

Hey Kenna:)

Michelle HamiltonApr 30, 2013, 2:04 AM

hi Blake

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 1:52 AM★ Spotlighted

Sometimes poker is SO flushtrating!

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 1:55 AM

test

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 1:55 AM

Test worked

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 1:56 AM

bah doom cha

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 1:57 AM

Test

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 1:57 AM

Getting testy in here

Michelle HamiltonMay 1, 2013, 2:01 AM

hey hey.....playing 2 games on Luvin o,,,,,,,:)

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 2:01 AM

Did we get punked? lol

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 2:03 AM★ Spotlighted

So there is no sound to this?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:04 AM

Yes, it's text only

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 2:05 AM

where is our host?

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:06 AM

Hey Scott...do you not see the convo at the top?

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 2:06 AM

Ok, will do.....thank you

Ryan SayerMay 1, 2013, 2:07 AM

Have a good chat fellas.. all of us at OnTilt Radio are watching!

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:08 AM

I play because it's the only environment in which I don't feel bad exploiting dumb people.

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:09 AM

Hey up Sharon

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:10 AM★ Spotlighted

Isn't winning the unifying reason?

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:10 AM

Winning isnt a good reason for playing poker

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:12 AM

Answer would be leaving with more money than I had when I arrived.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:14 AM

True, I don't despair too much over bad beats cause I know I played it right.

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:14 AM

not losing money is winning

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 2:14 AM

Jordan, first time I seen it

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 2:15 AM

Whats up Kenna & Blake

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:15 AM

Nice!!

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:15 AM

I just liked your comment, Scott

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:15 AM

so it got OH

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:16 AM

Now Kenna and Blake can see it

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 2:16 AM

is the top like an admin?

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:16 AM

the top is where the hosts take the stage

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:17 AM

and we down here in the Forum are in the audience

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:18 AM★ Spotlighted

Do most pros know the mathematical odds cold? Or s it a "feel" thing?

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:18 AM

Any wise words for us in the Audience here Jeff?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:22 AM

Do you want people to respect you or underestimate you? Or is it a case by case?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:23 AM

Does "really good" count as a "type?"

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 2:26 AM★ Spotlighted

i love kenna's attitude, its infectuious... (think i just made a word up, lol)

Jennifer WinterMay 1, 2013, 2:28 AM★ Spotlighted

Is that chat available later for review? Does anyone know?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:28 AM

Yes it is, Jen.

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:29 AM

You can read it anytime Jen-- and feel free to share it in its entirety or per comment...

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 2:29 AM

LOL Kenna

Jennifer WinterMay 1, 2013, 2:29 AM

Great, thanks.

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:29 AM

I maintain my attitude during tough times by reminding myself I never appeared on The Jerry Springer Show

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:30 AM

Thanks for attending, Jennifer!

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 2:30 AM★ Spotlighted

How do you maintain your attitude on bad beats, bad calls, and bad play against you?

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:30 AM

Hi Sharon

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:32 AM

Really? Not even a chuckle on the Jerry Springer joke?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:34 AM★ Spotlighted

My friend says that if you get upset over a hand, you haven't played enough cards.

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:34 AM

Just dont ask if hes gonna play any 50k events Blake

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:35 AM

I remember his answer as 2 words...lol

Jordan SudyMay 1, 2013, 2:37 AM

I got ya JB

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:38 AM

Get annoyed for 2 seconds then brush it off...then think " did "I" play it wrong?

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 2:39 AM★ Spotlighted

Then how has Hellmuth been successful?

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:40 AM

Hellmuth uses that to get under his opponents skin and make them play bad

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:40 AM

cos they want to show him up as being a brat

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 2:43 AM★ Spotlighted

I always try to put myself in the other person's shoes. Maybe I was giving off something that made them play the way they did. Maybe I would have played the same way if I was them. I try not to get upset about a hand, but some time that is hard.

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 2:45 AM

Shouldn't you look at how the hand was played as well as how you respond to losing that hand

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:46 AM

so I can say I am a professional amaeur

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 2:47 AM

position?

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 2:53 AM

hello all am just figuring this out lol

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:53 AM★ Spotlighted

whos the better skilled player...the guy that wins 1 out of 100 tourneys or the guy who cashes 15 outa 100?

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:56 AM

lol

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 2:57 AM

Hey Alex!!! :P

John McDonellMay 1, 2013, 2:57 AM★ Spotlighted

I would say the more consistent player is the better one. anyone could get lucky go on a roll and win once

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 2:58 AM

but with the luck factor required in winning a tourney wouldnt the player who consistently makes money is more skill than lucky as it were

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 2:59 AM

why am i not seeing the questions?

Vlad BasovMay 1, 2013, 3:00 AM

Refresh the page Scott

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 3:00 AM

I understand that everyone is " in it to win it "...why else play..... so hitting a decent placing time and time again musy be a more skillful player

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 3:02 AM

I meant I am not seeing other peoples questions, so it's a little confusing when I am just reading the answers

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:02 AM

if you like your job you'll never WORK a day in your life.

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 3:02 AM

Kenna likes to read books not opponents...:)

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 3:03 AM★ Spotlighted

I love the hand chart you have for that Kenna

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:05 AM★ Spotlighted

whats the best way to play pocket AA's? they seem to get me everytime just about

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 3:05 AM

;)

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 3:06 AM

Keenna rogers said....ya gotta know when ta fold em Kelly..lol

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 3:07 AM

Old way of learning used to be that you played certain hands in certain positions. That couldn't be further from the truth, right?

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:07 AM

lol thanks

John McDonellMay 1, 2013, 3:08 AM

id say wait for a good hand then use his aggresion against him

Vlad BasovMay 1, 2013, 3:09 AM

Get back with me on the AA question later Kelly

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:09 AM

Ive tried so many ways maybe all .with the pocket AA's and no one really ever can answer it for me

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 3:11 AM

my problem with loose aggressive is when i finally have something to play back at them, the end up holding the nuts... example in a HPT last year. kid raises on the button every time for an hour, turned over 4 7os, 6 7s, 5 6... then I get KK,

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 3:11 AM

I raise it up, he repops, i shove he calls with AA... gg me

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 3:12 AM

I feel you Scott

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 3:15 AM

What hand do you think is the most over played hand in poker? Me, I think it is AK.

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:15 AM

Thanks Kenna...Think they are just un-luck for me ......lol

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 3:16 AM

Sharon, I agree, with Jacks a close second

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:17 AM

that makes sense

Scott WilliamsMay 1, 2013, 3:17 AM

gotta run for now fellas, thanks for the invite and look forward to the next one

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:17 AM

thank you

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 3:17 AM

Later dude

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 3:18 AM

Slow playing will bite you in the azz more times than not

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:18 AM

yes I agree with that!

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 3:18 AM★ Spotlighted

The poker gods HATE slowplay

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:18 AM

lol yes they do!!

Jordan BirnbaumMay 1, 2013, 3:19 AM

Audience was very cool here tonight

Sharon LissMay 1, 2013, 3:19 AM

Thank you Kenna James for your time and advise

John McDonellMay 1, 2013, 3:19 AM

thanks guys

Alex SpiersMay 1, 2013, 3:20 AM

3 AM UK

Kelly ScottMay 1, 2013, 3:20 AM

Thank you both this was fun & helpful see ya on the felt

Ryan SayerMay 1, 2013, 3:33 AM

good chat Kenna & Blake. Don't worry Blake, the world runs on EST, Kenna will adjust!

Lea WolfeMay 1, 2013, 3:50 AM

Good evening...

Lea WolfeMay 1, 2013, 3:51 AM

I really did slow play!!! lol Good night!