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Tawking Redacted II

Nov 13, 2014

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Nov 13, 2014

Join Lucy and I every Wednesday night to tawk about the great new comedy news show Redacted Tonight, with host Lee Camp, John F. O’Donnell, Sam Sacks, Philip Chang, and Abby Feldman! We will be chatting about the weekly show as well as the weekly backstage podcast.

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Lucy Dyer · 12:00 AM

Hello hello....
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Lucy Dyer · 12:00 AM

is thing on?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:00 AM

Hey Lucy, Hi everyone! :)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:00 AM

hey Rachel, my lovely co-host
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Lucy Dyer · 12:00 AM

Hey there audience!
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:00 AM

Happy Wednesday Night! :)
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:01 AM

Welcome to everyone, if you are viewing this and want to be in the audience to chat with us login to Tawkers or create a free account
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Lucy Dyer · 12:01 AM

And tell ya friends, lovers, enemies...whoever..to come and join in!
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:01 AM

Otherwise audience members can chat over in the right hand box and thumbs up each others comments
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:01 AM

Yes spread it around like wildfire
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:01 AM

Hope your week has been going well Lucy :)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:02 AM

its not been too bad actually, thanks rachel.
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Lucy Dyer · 12:02 AM

you?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:02 AM

cool :)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:02 AM

full of Redacted stuff i am sure
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Lucy Dyer · 12:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“Hello!”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:02 AM

Here is the link to this week's Redacted Tonight episode for those who have yet to watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ze9neGe_vQ&list=PLdi9R2OWN6k6vMZcO7NABIKv4FAiaBayL
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Lucy Dyer · 12:02 AM

hey Julie! glad you could make it
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:02 AM

Hi Julie! Welcome! :)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:03 AM

and oh boy, what an episode it was this week.
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:03 AM

Also check out Redacted's Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/redactedtonight
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:03 AM

where all the other goodies can be found
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:03 AM

How did you like this week's episode Lucy?
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Lucy Dyer · 12:04 AM

altho i thought it was more on the serious side, Lee and co. certainly handled it well. sprinkling a fine mist of humour into it
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:04 AM

well yes there is a lot of serious shit going on right now
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:04 AM

especially after midterm elections
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Lucy Dyer · 12:04 AM

the protests one made laugh the most,i have to say
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:05 AM

I thought his bowling ball to the crotch was an apt analogy :p
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:05 AM

haha
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Lucy Dyer · 12:05 AM

lol
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:05 AM

Sam's piece was hilarious as usual, "Damn it! My mom washed my socks again!" LOL
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:05 AM

well there are a lot of stories to talk about
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Lucy Dyer · 12:05 AM

i know!!! who knew Sam still got his mum to do his washing
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:05 AM

should be dive in to those first or would you like to talk about veteran's day a little?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:05 AM

haha
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Lucy Dyer · 12:06 AM

oh lord...ok
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:06 AM

so fresh and so clean
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Lucy Dyer · 12:06 AM

and please excuse,this is just my opinion
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:06 AM

go for it Lucy...
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:06 AM

we support all opinions here, this is a safe tawk space :)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:06 AM

i was a little annoyed by all the memes and stories about the solldiers BUT there was NOTHING about the many innocent people who were and still are, killed by these people
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Lucy Dyer · 12:07 AM

no-one said a thing about this. not one peerson
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:07 AM

not to mention how vets are treated when they come home
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Lucy Dyer · 12:07 AM

do these epople not matter?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:07 AM

It's almost like there is a blind spot we just see the soldier with the flag waving behind them and can't see the other innocent people effected by it
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:07 AM

pretty scary
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Lucy Dyer · 12:08 AM

i would have thought maybe Lee or Abby might have said something, but nothing. which was a little disappointing
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:08 AM

It is pretty scary to me how conditioned the "support the troops" blindly, is put into our heads
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:08 AM

Lee had something about it on his page
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:08 AM

it was like Happy Amestice Day or something like that?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:08 AM

He did mention it
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:08 AM

I know it is a sort of taboo subject here in the U.S. Lucy
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Lucy Dyer · 12:08 AM

sorry but fuck the troops. they blindly went into something some knew to be wrong
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Lucy Dyer · 12:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“hiya. sorry i'm late”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:09 AM

no rpoblem robin
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:09 AM

Across the pond it is more ok to have those opinions maybe? I know family and friends who have been in the service and I have seen them just come back wrecked in many different ways
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“"armistice"”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:09 AM

Thank you Julie, yes that!
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Lucy Dyer · 12:09 AM

well, at least with armistice day, the news DID talk about the lives that were lost. on both sides. both soldier and civillian
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Lucy Dyer · 12:10 AM

dont get me wrong, i understand and feel horrible about what happens to the military people
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Lucy Dyer · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“Thom hartman did a cool piece on 'thanking the troops'”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:10 AM

yeah and that is severely lacking in this country, but with the media being bought by those who are gaining profit from war I can see why
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Lucy Dyer · 12:10 AM

why thank the troops?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:11 AM

We just need to grow up as a civilization continuous war will ONLY lead to more continuous war it is completely illogical
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Lucy Dyer · 12:11 AM

i wonder how many people actually know how many people those soldiers they are "tahnking" have killed. how many innocent people. mostly children
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Lucy Dyer · 12:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“hiya gang, I'm sorry also.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:11 AM

p.s. Hey Mike and Robin thanks for coming :)
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“did you see my link to thom's piece? itsz about being sorry”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:12 AM

Robin I saw it, so basically he is saying instead of us "supporting the troops" only when going into war we need to say sorry for how we treat them and the world
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Lucy Dyer · 12:12 AM

i read ameme somewhere and it said something like in about 300 years of america, you guys have spent around 250 of it at war. thats just fucked up
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:13 AM

I would love to see research on how many people who serve one term in the service quit after their terms are up and how many reenlist over and over
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:13 AM

I would love to know the differences between these two groups
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:13 AM

yeah well we learned well from England lol
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:13 AM

just sayin ;)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:13 AM

anyways, thats what i think. i want some fun now please! hehe
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Lucy Dyer · 12:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“It's true, Lucy. Think about the countless wars everywhere during that time.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:14 AM

ugh we just need to get over war mongering
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Lucy Dyer · 12:14 AM

way too true,rachel
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:14 AM

So I will start with that, Lee covered this in last week's episode 4 Blackwater guards are being prosecuted for war crimes
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:14 AM

victory? or scape goats?
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Lucy Dyer · 12:14 AM

and now your police are becoming more and more militarized? WTF is up with that?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:15 AM

Here
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:15 AM

's the story link http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/blackwater-verdict_n_6028996.html
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:15 AM

Don't ask my Lucy I would say it is because they feel they are losing control and power over the people and they don't like it
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Lucy Dyer · 12:15 AM

only 4? mmm sounds alot like scapegoat land
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:16 AM

I think we should look to this increase in forced domination as sort of a glass half full thing, it means they are finally hearing us and paying attention
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“i aggree rachel”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“I think that they are brainwashed into reenlisting.”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:16 AM

always get those lower down form you into trouble, get them arrested for the crimes you do...yeah sounds about right
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:16 AM

That's what I was thinking Lucy. Why only 4? If all of them have been involved in these horrific crimes from the beginning
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Lucy Dyer · 12:17 AM

4 is not too big,not too large i guess.
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Lucy Dyer · 12:17 AM

cowards the lot of them
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Lucy Dyer · 12:17 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“they are throwing us the proverbial "bone"”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:17 AM

For those who DON'T know Blackwater was a private mercenary squad which has roots to my FAVORITE corporation
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:17 AM

MONSANTO
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:17 AM

puke
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Lucy Dyer · 12:17 AM

yup. and we are meant to go " oh someone finally got done for war crimes. everything will be alright"
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:17 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“ugh”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:18 AM

f**k that. WE know that aint right.
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Lucy Dyer · 12:18 AM

its the many thousands of sheeple that are still out there that dont know and dont care
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Lucy Dyer · 12:18 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“I had a neighbor who worked as a contractor Iraq and he made a bundle”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:18 AM

yeah like well know the people CAN'T complain about Blackwater because see we arrested those 4 people, dude how screwed over would you feel if you were those 4 dudes while the people who ordered those murders and torture are high in their towers
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Lucy Dyer · 12:18 AM

many contractors got arrested tho too, mike. accused of being terroists
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:19 AM

wow crazy, I bet he saw some things Mike...
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:19 AM

I said this on FB earlier but man you want to know the TRUE mess our system is, ask a disillusioned veteran
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“This guy trained prison guards. ”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:20 AM

Crazy. Ugh Prisons in themselves are horrific but prisoners of war, I mean it just takes it to a whole other level of fucked up...
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Lucy Dyer · 12:20 AM

if you are a military person, and dont agree with what you are "fighting" for. dont go. say no. if you believe it that much,you would
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:20 AM

I think a lot of people DO believe in the propaganda when they go in, they go in thinking they will be doing right, but what they see and experience over there... tells them a whole other thing
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:21 AM

Speaking of this Abby Martin wrote a great piece on this topic, check it out http://www.mediaroots.org/how-supporting-the-troops-is-killing-veterans/
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“i don't think the kids who enlist really have any idea what is really going on, until its too late”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:21 AM

I don't think so either and so it all comes back to an uninformed public
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“I think you're right about that Robin”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:22 AM

I know kids who went in for the sole purpose of being able to afford college! Actually I know quite a few of them!
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:22 AM

THAT is crazy to me, we are supplementing our children's lives and education with war
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“"that's the way, uh huh, uh huh, we like it!"... govt.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“uninformed public”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:22 AM

did we lose Lucy?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:22 AM

Lucy.... she'll be back
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Lucy Dyer · 12:23 AM

no i am still here. just tweeting about this lol
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Lucy Dyer · 12:23 AM

i cant do two things at once ya know
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:23 AM

ok good :)
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:23 AM

why the heck not?? haha
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Lucy Dyer · 12:23 AM

havent eaten enough gmos to change me
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“I think if we spend a lot of our money on humanitarian aid and food instead of bombing the hell out of people would be much better off”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:24 AM

That is just darn right logic, sustainable, and compassionate -- we can't have THAT :p
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:24 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“gee, i think so too mike”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:24 AM

Mike, Bill Hicks said something very similar. instead of bombing the shit out of places. drop food
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:24 AM

Ugh Monsanto and GMOs :p
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Lucy Dyer · 12:25 AM

and how the hell can you get arrested for caring about people when those in their high towers and fancy houses get away with murder?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:25 AM

Maybe that was their plan, they were waiting for everyone to "zombie out" on their GMOs before anyone was the wiser, damn those scientists and aware eaters
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“Just don't drop frozen turkeys on them Lucy”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:25 AM

i do reference that elderly guy getting arrested for feeding the homeless
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“$5.6 bilolion to send in 1500 troops seems a little excessive”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:25 AM

in Florida
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Lucy Dyer · 12:26 AM

notice that ebola and isis is not mentioned so much on the news now?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:26 AM

yeah Florida man... that state is messed up. Although I know that when we did GISHWHES 2 years ago, that world wide scavenger hunt I do every year, one of the items was to bring homeless people their favorite meal and my teammate who lives in NYC
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Lucy Dyer · 12:27 AM

and if you look on map of africa, and where the us has their troops....well, lets just say they are VERY close together
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:27 AM

wasn't even allowed INTO the shelter, they wouldn't let her in
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Lucy Dyer · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“They're too busy talking about Kim Kardashian's ass”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:27 AM

ha! so true
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:27 AM

so the media hasn't noticed ebola, however I have noticed FB, google, and twitter all have had this donate for ebola thing up the last few days
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Lucy Dyer · 12:27 AM

they'll be making kim kardashian tables soon
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Lucy Dyer · 12:28 AM

have you donated to that rachel?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:28 AM

so they don't shove it down our throats anymore, but make sure the threat is right in the corner of our minds still
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Lucy Dyer · 12:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“i thot it was weird the death toll didn't rise for a couple weeks so i check further.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:28 AM

no, but I am also a broke ass college student
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:28 AM

lol
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Lucy Dyer · 12:28 AM

robin., it wont. miraculously they have found a cure. funny that
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:28 AM

All my money is "donated" to food for me and my dog lol
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:29 AM

wait they said they have found a cure now??
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:29 AM

oh my god, see this is how sensationalism becomes our reality and actual plain old logic and facts seem odd to people... frustrating!
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“maybe theyre not keep official track so much. some place estimated there are not around 13,000 deaths in afioca fom ebola.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“serum from blood of survivors does well”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:29 AM

rahcel, are they not curing all these people that come out of africa? and some in africa?
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Lucy Dyer · 12:30 AM

look at the ones that were in the us. cured.
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Lucy Dyer · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“I don't know if they have a cure. But if patients get timely and proper care they seem to survive. ”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:30 AM

yeah well as I never thought they didn't have a cure, we had the patient for it, to me we wouldn't patient anything we or the gov wouldn't have an antidote to
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Lucy Dyer · 12:30 AM

funny how they can have a "cure" rememdy whatever, for those in the us/uk but cant find one quick enough for those in africa
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:30 AM

yeah I thought if the blood was transfused out in time then people have a better shot of surviving
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:31 AM

We have had our hands in Africa forever
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Lucy Dyer · 12:31 AM

and the clebs who are saying we should donate....arrgghh makes me wanna scream!
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:31 AM

Just an empire doing our business... like a boss (hipster Merica)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:31 AM

why dont they donate alot of their money? they wont.
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:32 AM

yeah that gets to me too, you know how much those people make?!?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:32 AM

crazy
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Lucy Dyer · 12:32 AM

if these celebs care so much about helping these people out, give em your moeny
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Lucy Dyer · 12:32 AM

scuse my spelling folks lol
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:32 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“I bet big pharmaceutical is behind the "cure"”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:33 AM

no kidding, julie
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:33 AM

I agree or stop buying diamonds that cause people in Africa to work in near slave labor conditions
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:33 AM

oh Big Pharma
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Lucy Dyer · 12:33 AM

more money being made for them
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Lucy Dyer · 12:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“The Koch bros could easily finance it. ”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:33 AM

no theres an idea,mike
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Lucy Dyer · 12:33 AM

*now
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:34 AM

I saw that Big Pharma uses GMO crops to produce their medications, they have acres upon acres of GMO corn etc waiting to be turned into pills
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Lucy Dyer · 12:34 AM

GMO is WAY more widespread than most people realise
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:34 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“it's easier to take over a country if everyone there is dead.”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:34 AM

or zombiefied robin
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Lucy Dyer · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“true”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:35 AM

Yeah they must be pretty pissed that the people they are trying to control are just so darn stubborn and resistant ... keep fighting everyone ;)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:35 AM

well i for one never will
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:35 AM

now I am picturing a zombie sporting the anonymous mask LOL
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Lucy Dyer · 12:35 AM

which brings me onto my next topic. TTP and TTIP
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:36 AM

So with midterm elections I am thinking the Koch Brothers and Citizens United will be hard to overturn
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Lucy Dyer · 12:36 AM

you know this climate change deal that obama and china have done? well obama is ALOS there to talk TTP/TTIP
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:36 AM

oh yeah, another topic that always seems to be pushed aside by the media go for it lucy
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Lucy Dyer · 12:36 AM

didnt see that in the msm do you?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“i'm sure they are VERY pissed.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“That's going to take quite a while Rachel”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:37 AM

sorry rach. after you lol
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Lucy Dyer · 12:37 AM

i'll keep quiet for a bit
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:37 AM

no go ahead
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:37 AM

no you talk I was listening :)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:37 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“Oh no after you my dear”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:37 AM

ok who here knows what ttp/ttip is about?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:38 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“i thot i heard something abt. china not being invited to the tpp”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:38 AM

they arent. cos they know its wrong
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:38 AM

why don't you give a brief explanation of it
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Lucy Dyer · 12:38 AM

but the us is trying to get them to join
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:38 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“really? integrity in a world leader? i am shocked”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:39 AM

They also have banned our crappy GMO crops too! :) But like anything it isn't all good Hong Kong is in the middle of protests with its students
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Lucy Dyer · 12:39 AM

its 12 nations trying to make you buy only what they want you to buy. they dont care about slavery. and if if you complain,. they will sue you
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:41 AM

it will basically overrun unions too correct?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“isn't there also something about not having to say what the country of origin is? like we will get radioactive stuff from japan with no warning?”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:41 AM

you know this life we are all living at the moment? imagine one where everything you buy,see ,hear, wear and do is made by companies that dont care if someone died making it. they wont care if you die cos they will get more money from medicine they w
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Lucy Dyer · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“When the workers of the world finally wake up it's going to get real ugly”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:41 AM

fucking hell I'm going to have to become a mountain woman, damn system! wth
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Lucy Dyer · 12:41 AM

quite possibly.
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Lucy Dyer · 12:42 AM

why do you think they dont want you to live off the grid? why they want to get rid of net neutrality?
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:42 AM

Robin that sounds about right, basically all power will be put into the corporations hands, regulations would be severely decreased - even more than the nearly non existent ones we have now
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:42 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“Emma Woodford is a feisty one. She was just appointed to TTIP”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:42 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“Rachel you can do whatever you want you can be whatever you want to be just don't do it off the grid”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:42 AM

GMO is the way for them. big nations just dont care about the people of the world. only money
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Lucy Dyer · 12:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“now yer talkin' horror stories!”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:43 AM

no robin., i am talking what will happen if this gets passed
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Lucy Dyer · 12:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“scary clowns... corporations and politicians”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:43 AM

off the grid living is almost more dangerous than being homeless in this country... ALMOST
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Lucy Dyer · 12:43 AM

lol yes they are
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:44 AM

Julie - who is Emma Woodward? Someone standing up against the TTIP or someone for it?
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Lucy Dyer · 12:44 AM

maybe its cos you are in control of your own life. and they dont have a say in it. and that scares them
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:44 AM

one side not just because I just saw this researching the hong kong protests http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/hongkong/11224941/Xi-Jinping-declares-Hong-Kong-protests-are-illegal.html
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Lucy Dyer · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“They have to keep an eye on you Lucy”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:45 AM

more of this protesting is "illegal" b.s.
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Lucy Dyer · 12:45 AM

then i shall poke them in that eye
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:45 AM

sorry just because you declare something doesn't make it so...
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“following in our footsteps”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:46 AM

the other story I really wanted to touch on from last week's episode was the one covered by Sam on encrpytion
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:46 AM

encryption
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Lucy Dyer · 12:46 AM

and now mexico is protesting over those missing students
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Lucy Dyer · 12:46 AM

see that on tv? nope
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:46 AM

omg Mexico is such a mess, I really cry for their people.. you want to talk about a messed up place to live
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:46 AM

however are we very far behind? :/
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Lucy Dyer · 12:47 AM

go for it rachel :-)
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:47 AM

It is crazy that certain things like missing people don't get attention from the media. trafficking alone makes billions worldwide
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:48 AM

ok cool well Sam Sacks did a story on how the NSA and CIA do not like that companies like Google and Apple are coming up with encryption systems for their users that ONLY the user has access to, not even apple or google will have access to this info
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:48 AM

here's the link http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/05/us/documents-reveal-nsa-campaign-against-encryption.html
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Lucy Dyer · 12:49 AM

flicking the bird to the NSA and CIA. Love it!
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:49 AM

The FBI also takes issue with this https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/17/draft-two-cases-cited-fbi-dude-dumb-dumb/
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:49 AM

(the url is awesome btw)
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:49 AM

yes!
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:49 AM

I was honestly REALLY surprised to see that Apple and Google are on the forefront of this
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Lucy Dyer · 12:50 AM

i think in this world of privacy ( or not as the case maybe), this is a good idea.
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:50 AM

they always seems most resistant to things of this nature in the past, maybe companies like firefox and TOR are making them change their tune
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“Yeah and if you look up that link you just made the list”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:50 AM

ooo cool,mike! always wanted to be on a list
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:51 AM

that last link is about the FBI directors reaction, on the show the segment was hilarious they showed a clip of the director being asked to explain the idea of "front door" security that the FBI is pushing to put in place
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Lucy Dyer · 12:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“Oh Lucy I'm sure were already out a few lists”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:51 AM

he couldn't do it, his exact words were, "well I'm probably not smart enough to understand it..."
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:51 AM

THIS is the spokesperson they choose to take on this fight? LOL
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:52 AM

We are on the list of "Awesome People Not to be Messed With" :D
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“or he just didn't want to talk about it”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:52 AM

i bet a five year old could understadn it better than he could
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Lucy Dyer · 12:52 AM

ssshhh rachel dont tell everyone lol
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:53 AM

maybe that too, I also like how he called this the age of the "Post Snowden Pendulum" UH hold up, because the Snowden thing isn't over
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:53 AM

haha oh come on the NSA is all over it already
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:53 AM

:p
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“That's right we bad”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“its getting harder and harder to believe ANYTHING out of the mouths of bad guys.”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“This is an interesting story on the FBI and the Front Door: https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=front+door”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:53 AM

Thanks Julie! :)
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Lucy Dyer · 12:54 AM

wait theres a front AND back door? :-O
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:54 AM

Robin - I always thought who WOULD believe the bad guys, they always screw over the people under them who help them, whenever they get the chance has NO ONE watched childhood cartoons??
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:55 AM

yeah so those are tech terms, backdoor refers to being able to gain access to the actual database and front means having access to certain aspects of the database, only as you have access, I believe, Julie is that right? (She is a techie :) )
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“"There's nothing honest about Comey's approach and walking around claiming that phone encryption will lead to new highs in terrorist attacks and pedophilia is only part of the dishonesty."”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:55 AM

people will believe what they are told. if someone high in power says its right, they will believe it
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Lucy Dyer · 12:55 AM

sad but true
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Lucy Dyer · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“and yet.... they keep getting voted in.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:56 AM

sadly, that argument has no legs as the people who have spied on us MOST has been our own government
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Lucy Dyer · 12:56 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Lol, that certainly doesn't happen with the Pres. Lucy”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:56 AM

oh i dont know seth. alot of people do. lbindly i must admit, but they do
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Lucy Dyer · 12:56 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“i am really glad there are lots of people younger and more energetic than i am who are willing to "fight the fight". i'm about worn out.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:57 AM

and I get that with things like crimes access would be valuable, but ya know what? this is what happens when people wake up and realize you are spying on EVERY aspect of their lives, they should have left well enough alone but it is never enough
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Lucy Dyer · 12:57 AM

dont give up robin!
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Lucy Dyer · 12:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“oh i won't give up”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“But, as the election showed if you keep repeating the same message over and over, with enough money behind it, people will believe it, regardless of the truth”

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Lucy Dyer · 12:57 AM

exactly
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Lucy Dyer · 12:58 AM

altho when the same person who paying for your election is also paying for your opposition too....
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:58 AM

we have to stop thinking in terms of winning battles as winning, because to them they will just regroup and come back, it really is a life long struggle and probably will be for many generations
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Rachel McDonnell · 12:58 AM

small price to pay though for doing the right thing and doing good but others and the world
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Lucy Dyer · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“In Minnesota, there was a commercial aired on election day that the governor would be responsible if Ebola reached Minnesota. Fear-mongering”

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Rachel McDonnell · 12:59 AM

ugh the fear mongering is out of control
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Lucy Dyer · 12:59 AM

i think you are right rachel. every day we will have to fight to keep a freedom alive. whatever that is
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Lucy Dyer · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“i wonder what freedom is... now.”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:00 AM

You still have another day or so to head over to twitter and tweet at @RedactedTonight #ArmageddonPartySupplies I can't believe I forgot that was the hashtag
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:00 AM

I love this hashtag! :)
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Lucy Dyer · 1:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“If only people were as concerned about mass shootings as they're for Ebola. What have we had three cases in America?!”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:00 AM

Freedom is continuing to do right by others and our world no matter what unjust law or rule may be waved in our faces
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Lucy Dyer · 1:01 AM

only 3? those are the one that are on tv seth. there are many more than 3
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:01 AM

Freedom is using our voice and silencing the fear mongering you hear every day
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Lucy Dyer · 1:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“They want us to eat all of our gmos and say our prayers to the corporations before we go to bed. ”

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Lucy Dyer · 1:01 AM

i think freedom is different for everyone.
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Lucy Dyer · 1:01 AM

not sure what it is tho
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Lucy Dyer · 1:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“its being able to live off the grid, and feed the homeless”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:02 AM

I swear GMOs were a big part of the Dr. Evil plan somewhere... they weren't expecting us to find it for another decade or so, by then we'd all be dying of cancer, for which they would give us pills made of GMOs ... YUM
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:02 AM

yeah I think it is just knowing what is right, doing what is right, and not backing down when you do know the right thing to do
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Lucy Dyer · 1:02 AM

makes you wonder just how long GMOs have been a part of lives
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Lucy Dyer · 1:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“Freedom from choice is what you want.... DEVO”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:02 AM

speaking of which who else is super excited to see CitizenFour?!??
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:02 AM

I know I am!
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“I think that's about it Rachel, 3 or 4 proven cases of Ebola, and most of the people who got it, over here at least, have survived”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:03 AM

oh yeah not many ebola cases seth, but alot of school shooting cases
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:03 AM

that is a whole other issue we can discuss next week if you all would like :)
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“I was talking about Ebola cases :-)”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:03 AM

Time is up already, wow that went by fast
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Lucy Dyer · 1:04 AM

loved this tawk btw. thanks you guys! :-)
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“thanks for the tawk rachel and lucy”

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Lucy Dyer · 1:04 AM

thanks robin.
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:04 AM

Yeah does this time work for everyone? Or should we try out a different time next week?
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:04 AM

I always worry it is kinda early here in the states and around supper time for everyone
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:04 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Goodnight NSA. You can spy on another chat now :-)”

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Lucy Dyer · 1:05 AM

not really seth
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:05 AM

Yes, thanks for stopping by [Insert NSA Agent's Name] :)
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Lucy Dyer · 1:05 AM

that would be 1am here for me
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“yeah, but i live alone and don't work. it's fine for me. = D”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Could 8PM EST work?”

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Lucy Dyer · 1:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“This was great! I just wish we could all meet face to face. Of course the NSA might not like that. ”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:05 AM

yeah we could maybe try to knock it back an hour if that works for lucy?
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Lucy Dyer · 1:05 AM

Thanks Mike! :-)
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:05 AM

we might get more tawkers later at night here
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Lucy Dyer · 1:05 AM

this time works ok for me.
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Lucy Dyer · 1:06 AM

what time were you thinking of rach?
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:06 AM

We do need a Tawkers convention set up that would be SO cool! :)
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“so, an hour later? thats good too”

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Lucy Dyer · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Julie Myers

“See you then!!”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:06 AM

8 pm EST
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Lucy Dyer · 1:06 AM

do it every other week?
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike Dwornik

“Just let us know, kids!!!”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:06 AM

sure! ok we will work it out and get back to you
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Lucy Dyer · 1:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Robin Maynard

“ok. have a great night, everyone”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:06 AM

Audience you all rock! Thanks for coming! And thanks Lucy! :)
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Lucy Dyer · 1:06 AM

see ya robin.
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Lucy Dyer · 1:07 AM

and thanks for another great tawk Rach :-)
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Lucy Dyer · 1:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from Seth Hochman

“Goodnight all!”

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Rachel McDonnell · 1:07 AM

Sure thing, night! :)
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Lucy Dyer · 1:07 AM

see you all next week :-)
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:07 AM

Some links for late comers, go check out Redacted's FB page for all podcast and source info https://www.facebook.com/redactedtonight
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:07 AM

and check out their youtube page for all the past episodes https://www.youtube.com/user/RedactedTonight
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Rachel McDonnell · 1:08 AM

Also follow me on twitter @RaeMcD and looks us up on FB! Night everyone and #KeepFighting :)