Lee Camp

Host

Technology Changing The World

Mar 18, 2014·191 visitors

Eleanor Goldfield

Cohost

Stage· 305 messages

Mar 18, 2014

There have been massive technological advances in recent years - everything from powering the earth with sun to Google glass to 3D printing. What will our world look like in 20 years?

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

What's up? We're gonna talk about some crazy shit today.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Sorry - ironically, had a tech glitch.

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

Everything from google glass to personal drones to invisibility cloaks - where is technology taking us??

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Hello everyone!

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

And what are the ethical questions?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

OK - I so want an invisibility cloak

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

Can it save us or will it kill us all?

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

We'll get to the cloak, El. Simmer down!!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

I just now read something about the first ever "lab made" burger

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

Made from stem cells in a lab

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

First things first - can everybody tweet or FB that they're here. Tell people to join us!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

Cost about $33,000 to make

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

Was that a 3D printed burger?

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

They are literally able to print meat now. And organs, I believe.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:02 PM

Not sure - could be the same thing. I just read that it was made in London, funded by Google primarily and could be an answer to world hunger

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I have a 3d printer. crazy technology”

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

Do you really, Kelly? What do you fill it with? Dead bodies?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:02 PM

And of course 3D printers have printed stem cells so that could lead to solving some illness issues

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

Haha. Where does one even get a 3D printer?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

Can I have one delivered to me via Amazon drone?

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

So once the 3D printer is mastered, it pretty much means anybody can have anything. It could mean you could print a bomb and it will be much harder to stop that kind of thing.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

Haven't people printed guns already?

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

Of course nano-tech will also make terrorism almost impossible to stop - if it got in certain hands.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“They 3D printed a perfectly-sized tracheal splint this week for a baby and successfully installed it.”

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

You can't stop a swarm of poison nano-mosquitos with guns.

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

El - Yes, they've printed guns.

Lee Camp · 11:04 PM

Plus printed guns are mostly plastic, so they can get through security.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

Ha - yet another reason to stay away from the South: gnats with guns

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“I want to 3d print a chicken Parmesan!”

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“yes i got mine from a online site”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

The idea of printing food or stem cells for illness research goes back to what Shara mentioned - the ethics are about how it's used, of course

Lee Camp · 11:05 PM

Have you noticed when there's new technology we immediately use it for killing devices. First thoughts are always bombs and guns and shit.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

Well, let's not be that cynical. Although, if they make a solar panel gun, night time crimes might drop

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Yes, they have 3d printed guns, however the cost exceeds merely buying one and they are fragile and unreliable when printed.”

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Lee, not surprising giving much tech is downdrift from DOD.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

Thank you for verifying that Rebecca!

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

Very true. A lot of our tech comes from military spending but then again that's because we put WAY more funding into military than anything else.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“The lab-made burger was grown from culture, it wasn't printed.”

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“How far does technology have to progress. We haven't progressed as fast as tech. we need to focus on ppl. We've reached a pinnacle in tech, where we basically have "replicators" ie 3d printers to make anything we need. Yet we can't feed everyone?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:07 PM

@Stanley - we can. We choose not to.

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

Stanley - very true. I feel like in 10 years we will truly be monkeys trying to use computers. The tech will be better than us.

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

I always laughed at the idea of a robot takeover, but it's less outlandish than it sounds.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Stanley, Of course we can feed everyone. That just doesn't fit current business models.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“I personally don't think growing meat in a lab is going to end world hunger. We already produce plenty of food for everyone, we just do a shit job of fairly distributing it. Economics and politics get involved & we throw away billions of tons yearly.”

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

Once millions of robots can be linked via internet, they could learn exponentially and the hive mind could progress far faster than we could.

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Lee, some argue we are approaching a singularity moment - when AI reaches human intelligence and begins to teach itself.”

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“Socially, we lag FAR behind technology!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

Very true. Just the fact that it's illegal in some places to give food to the homeless. Restaurants have to pay a fine in order to give away all the unused food

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

And we don't realize that we are already living FOR the technology - we change our lives and our thoughts to fit technology.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

Although, hasn't that always been the case?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

Mankind has come up with new technology, whether that be the wheel or the printing press and we shift our paradigms and our lives to fit that technology

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

A simple example is the idea that we have changed the meaning of "friends" to fit with Facebook "friends."

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

Yes, it has always been. The question is how far we'll take it.

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“Well, there has been an incredible breakthrough in programming recently. My husband told me about being able to programa robot that can balance a broomstick/basketball/whatever on its hand.”

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“these smartwatches that you can wear - didnt they have those in the 80's? is it like the apple and they have just been upgraded?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

I think we'll take it as far as we can - a bit like the expanding universe if I may get slightly metaphysical for a moment.

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

Yes, and google has bought up tons of different robotics companies including Boston Dynamics.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“This is HUGE and relevant because the programming style was such that each move had to leave the greatest number of moves available.”

Lee Camp · 11:10 PM

Clearly Google views robots as where it's at.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

Yes Rebecca - I remember reading about that - how intensely difficult it is just to get robots to do one motion - how much goes into it

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“when I was a kid, here in Canada, I grew up where you cold buy day old doughnuts etc. now you can't because of liability...they can't even give away the food because of insurance, in case someone gets sick and sues.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“robots will slowly take over the world. it'll be like Star Trek crossed with planet of the apes...”

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

Can't wait until we can print babies - then you could hack a friends computer and they'll come home to like 10 babies.

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

Helluva a prank.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

hahaha

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:12 PM

good to hear you won't use technology for evil, lee...unless you print a demon child or something

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“@ Stanley - every time I have worked in food service, I have come up against this brick wall. SO I try to be active and find solutions (like Second Harvest, etc.) - but I have never had a manager that gave a shit.”

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“There are quad rotor helicopters that can balance sticks and place catch with them”

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

And of course Amazon already says they'll have drones delivering all our packages within 5 years. But that can be used for a lot of evil. Not just getting snuggies to morons.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

Drones used for evil? How could that be?

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“eleanor,only evil people have plans...good people have erase boards n shit”

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

Ha!

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

What if we just make them Nerf drones and they only come armed with scented candles??

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

I think a scented candle could do some damage if fired from a distance

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

Some of those are pretty hefty - especially if they come with a ceramic base

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“ok here is some tech info we all should know about. http://www.venusproject.org/new-energy/free-energy-device-demonstration-adam-trombly.html”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“I want to start a community garden here, to supply fresh free veggies to the food bank, you know the red tape you have to go through, just to start a garden? and they want you to have liability insurance in case someone gets hurt or sick, it's disgus”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

Very true. There is a staggering amount of red tape to go through in order to help people

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

Ironically more like a socialist country would have, but doesn't. For example, Swedes think it's hilarious that we have warning labels on lighters

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

Stanley - Doug Stanhope has a brilliant joke about that. He says "Give a man a fish he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish... he has to get a fishing permit and an open flame permit to cook the fish and a license and a...."

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“In terms of drones as a delivery agent - it could have upsides. Like not having carbon emitting trucks trucking down the road instead.”

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

Shara - Yes, they could be used to deliver water to the world but we won't do that.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“Wa can actually DECIDE whether we want to adopt and pursue certain technologies, AND WE SHOULD DECIDE.”

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

That's the thing about technology - we have to get it out of the hands of corporations and the profit motive.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

Which of course comes back to the idea of a system overhaul

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

A kid developed an array system that could clean up the ocean's of plastic - but where's the profit in that?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

Which is necessary for forward progress in all sectors.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

There is so much amazing technology out there that helps people

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

but it never gets massive funding or media attention

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“ok this is the most interesting technology I have seen up to this point. carbon nanotube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsuB-6-n-MM”

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Lee, I do my best by actively participating in GNU/Linux”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“But we can actually decide to slow down. To weigh options. To change the game from "PROVE it's harmful and we'll take it off the market" to "PROVE it's beneficial and we'll keep it around."”

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

Did you see we have remote control cockroaches now?

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“We often suffer from people not wasting resources and using technology to compensate instead of being responsible to start with”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“what about stephen meyer. HHO car. new york to LA in 22 gallons of water.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

Because....why?

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

You can stick some leads into a roach brain and then control it with a remote.

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

I can't imagine the roach community is crazy about it.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

Kind of like how I'm not crazy about micro-chips in my arm

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“That's right, Michael! With power comes responsibility! We can do better!”

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Yes i saw that too. and we have replicated the technology of the gecko, can climb walls.”

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

El - I thought you had four.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

7 now - but I hate the little bastards

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“@Eleanor: No, thanks!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Maybe we can use the roaches to carry out the next OWS?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

There's a youtube video claiming that if chips are implanted with all your medical history on it, should you have an emergency, it would help doctors care for you quicker and more efficiently

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

Can't we just send millions of cockroaches into a city we want to invade

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“ok and to all the nay sayers about technology, this guy was told it could not be done by engineers, now its done and working.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7PNSyAfCjk”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“I'm interested in human brain/computer interfaces we are beginning to develop. How long until we can upload/download data to and from our brain?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

a la the Matrix

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

““It is easy for me to imagine that the next great division of the world will be between people who wish to live as creatures and people who wish to live as machines.” - wendell berry”

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“Norway's recycle program is so efficient that they are asking neighbors for garbage”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“@ Lee - the Army is working on spy bugs and bomb bugs. No kidding.”

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

Rebecca - yes, that's essentially here.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

@Mitchell - I read about that. The Swedes are handing over some garbage as we speak. Pretty rad

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

We need to very soon expect a world where bugs are watching us endlessly.

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

Jordan - we don't want yours.

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Can we transfer our individual consciousness to a computer? You know, that never dies?”

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

Just kidding, buddy!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

@Jordan - wouldn't it need software updates

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

I'm just hoping the Koch Bros die before we have brain in a jar potential.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

I can see it crashing while trying to do some simple update and then poof, thousands of people just vanish

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

Yeah! Good point, El, what if you end up with the Atari brain-in-a-jar??

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

hahaha - that's like a digital coma essentially

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Death in the future may literally change to mean data loss.”

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Maybe I can delete some of the more painful memories from childhood...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

@Jordan - would you want to?

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

Jordan - you can do that already. The military is getting closer to perfecting pills that can help forget painful memories.

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

Of course that's a huge ethical quandary because it means soldier could kill and have no regret for what they did.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

LSD was used for that - to calm anxiety and panic attacks

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Eternal sunshine?”

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“I'm with you on that one, down with the Koch's and all the other elites, they're only elite because mom and dad gave them every advantage in the world, or they are very good salesmen (criminals)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

It does raise the question - how much should you erase if you could erase?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Hey if we are putting consciousness into computers...can you guys make sure mine doesn't go into a Windows machine?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“Many people eat printed food now. The process is called meat glueing and using an extract from blood plasma they can stick steaks together. Process is already in use for many restaurants and grocery stores in the US”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

hahaha Stanley - good point

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“funny, with all the tech we have, we can't find a boeing 777 that fell off the radar!”

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

Stanley - maybe we can just print a new plane to replace the old one?

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

I've been checking newspapers from 1955 to see if maybe the plane landed safely back in time.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“And Mitchell, that's fucking GROSS. That's why we need to back up and eat real food, not meat glue!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

haha! any luck with that lee?

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

Or maybe the plane is under a huge invisibility cloak... We actually have those now - http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2013/11/invisibility-cloaks-designed-for-u-s-military.html

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

thank you! finally

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“they are printing houses already, there is a version of a 3d printer that is large scale and uses concrete”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

@Stanley - with all the foreclosed houses, seems like we need more inhabitants than houses

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

Quick note - tell your friends you're here right now! Post the URL on Twitter and FB.

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

Once we have quality invisibility cloaks - all kinds of illegal shit will be impossible to stop.

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

We are about to enter the age of the peeping tom! It will be a peeping tom's world.

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Any technology or idea can be used to help or hinder, create or destroy.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

I'm not really sure why the military even needs them - considering we've already upped the usage of drones and scaled back actual human to human combat

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

El - We want to watch the female Israeli soldiers showering. That's the main reason.

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Hey Lee...that plane is on the moon. http://elitedaily.com/news/world/british-tabloid-found-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-moon/”

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

Hey guys - call off the search. Plane is on the moon.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“@Kelly - A Tool is a Weapon.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

I saw that. No wonder we can't find it in the Indian Ocean

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

Michael - What the fuck is that??

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“Anyone here familiar with ET3 or Hyperloop?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“Color Blind Artist Implants Antenna in His Skull to HEAR Colors - http://www.odditycentral.com/”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“I feel like humans are adolescents who have just reached driving age and now have the keys to a car that they shouldn't be driving with regard to technology. We are not mature enough to handle this shit.”

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

Rebecca - you are absolutely right, even in the case of something like GMO's. We're just running around going "Yay! We can do it!" and don't stop to think if we should.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“Evacuated Tube Transport Technologies”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“4000 MPH travel!”

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

We may soon try to stave off global warming by pumping particulate into the atmosphere - of course we won't wait to find out if it will cause an extreme 1,000 year winter or some other catastrophe.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“Hyperloop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

Waiting to find out - or really waiting in general is not something this generation is good at

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“doesn't anybody enjoy a good 4-hour road trip anymore?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

@Jordan - you can make it to LA from NY in 4 hours by car?! I'm so riding with you next time!

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

Michael - I feel like if it stops while you're in the bathroom, it would be very difficult to pee.

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“can do the same with a mag-lev train”

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

Self-driving cars is a another huge advancement.

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

We're almost there.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

Self-driving and flying cars

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“drove 32hrs straight once...never again!!!!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

Damn! I drove 24 straight once with the band - also, never again

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

Becca - I hope you got away with the murder you had committed.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“I am ALL for self-driving cars! PARTY! PARTY!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Improved virtual reality is likely to make travel less necessary.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

There was a virtual reality headset that came out last year via kickstarter

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“all the major car companies are introducing autonomous cars next year”

Lee Camp · 11:34 PM

Gladwell is a corporate hack.

Lee Camp · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“@ Lee - Fuck those stratosphere-particulate assholes! I thought that idea was DEAD. DON'T DO IT - EVEN IF MALCOLM GLADWELL THINKS IT'S A GOOD IDEA (HE'S AN economist, for Christ's sake)!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“@ Jordan - I don't think we should give over full control to the car. We don't need to lose the skill sets inherent in driving, and if we're not driving, then we can't correct the computer, just like it can't correct for us if it's not driving.”

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“I would like to see a new cargo train system that would have loads twice as wide and twice as high. Ability to move goods is a major factor in staying relevent in world economy”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

@Rebecca - it's a bit like losing the skills to navigate or find our way b/c of GPS telling us where to go all the time. We never have to look at a map to figure it out ourselves

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

So that part of our brain is essentially quiet

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“I want my Chinese food delivered from… China!”

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

Michael - it already does come from China, sadly. Shrimp is grown there.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“The farther one travels, the less one knows! I dunno what to think about the cars so I'm throwing down some Beatles lyrics”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM

@Becca - when in doubt, start singing. Always works for me ;)

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“90% of our brain is quiet,Eleanor”

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

ouch

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“altho in Lee's case its only 75%...-ish”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“@ Eleanor - EXACTLY! So, I still read maps. And I still do all my budgeting and taxes and shit longhand. Fuck you, calculator! I don't need you to THINK for me!”

Lee Camp · 11:37 PM

If anybody has crazy tech advances they want to bring up - please do. Open forum...

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Eleanor, but yet were gaining the ability to simultaneously process more data in more streams than our ancestors encountered in a lifetime.”

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

One company wants to create an "outernet" that would be international and provide internet for everyone everywhere - http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2014/02/forget-internet-soon-will-free-outernet-everyone-earth.html

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

Absolutely. but there are foundational intellectual skills that get lost when people stop reading, writing by hand, counting without a computer, etc.

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

Countries and corps could not slow or stop the internet.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

Bad ass!

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

If it happens, that would take the worldwide wave of awareness we're already experiencing and multiply it by 100

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“Bitcoin! (crypto currencies)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

And yes please. It's already known that wifi exists anywhere and everywhere.

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“all of our communities are a microcasm of what is going on in the world, the assholes in your area, are just like the assholes everywhere, and the smart here, are just like the smart there! etc”

Lee Camp · 11:39 PM

Stanley - we have to create a system that does not reward assholes. Big or small.

Lee Camp · 11:39 PM

Do people think Google glass will change the world. Or is it a gimmick?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

Oh yeah, "wearables."

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

Aren't we all kids with special needs??

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“So many of the communication and mobility devices that they've made for kids with special needs are incredible!”

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

Jordan - you think so?

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“gimmick”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“Google glasses a gateway technology!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

gateway in what way, Michael?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“Gimmick”

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“I've mined and used bitcoin. It's good technology - but it has to break out of angry nerd stage to gain adoption.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“who wants to see that shit all day?”

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

Becca - isn't that how everything starts?? With people going "who wants that shit?"

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Yes, glass is a gateway to direct brain/computer interfacing.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“That will most likely migrate into a contact instead of a wearable.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Jordet

“Contact lens*”

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“why would they need bugs to watch us. If we know about the bugs, they already have the next advanced technology”

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“So here is question since someone said WiFi...Last year at #SXSW paid homeless people to walk around and carry WiFi hotspots...ethically speaking how does everyone feel about that?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM

@Carl - I can't say I see the point of it but if they're employing the homeless, I say go for it

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

I want to hire homeless people to walk around with ice cream. Can we do that?

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“I promote bitcoin, only because it take out the unneccessary middle men”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM

I've seen some people talking about how bitcoin is just a gimmick too. I don't know enough about it to really comment though

Lee Camp · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

“People will accept technology like that when they need it to keep up with the pack”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“I think that it is great that they gave homeless jobs. Probably the best service that they ever got”

Lee Camp · 11:43 PM

Exactly. Everyone will fight something but then it becomes the only way to move forward. If google glass legitimately gives you knowledge at the blink of an eye, then the people without it will slowly feel

Lee Camp · 11:43 PM

obsolete. SO they'll get one.

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

And those too poor to get one will simply not succeed as easily in society. The best tech is usually for the elite.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Eleanor, the real power of bitcoin is that it can become the tcp/ip of internet payments.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM

just like the best health care

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“venus project, end to war poverty and politics, sound good? jaque fresco has some awesome ideas.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“ANYTHING can be a currency, eyelashes, bottlecaps, etc. I personally think we should never have got away from the barter system”

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

we haven't talked about Tesla's electric cars yet. Free cross-country drives are possible now.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

You should all watch Lee's MOC on that as well!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

after the tawk :)

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

“Bitcoin depends on electricity and network connectivity which can both go poof”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

“Bitcoin: for those who arent losing money fast enough in Wall Street”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Rebecca Westbrook Toker

“A list of some cool communication devices. Just to show you what's available. http://www.autismspeaks.org/family-services/resource-library/assistive-technology”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Lee, I'd love one. I'll have to wait for the used Tesla market, however.”

Lee Camp · 11:46 PM

Thanks for the plug, El. Here's my video on Tesla - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXTs8149qAM

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

Tesla has run into so much trouble - again red tape set up by corporations not wanting to lose the oil and gas industry

Lee Camp · 11:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“how about shooting off those t-shirt guns they fire into the crowds at sporting events. that makes getting shot at fun!”

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

They're doing everything they can to keep us in an oil world.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

A lot of the technology that we've talked about has had the same problem

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

Come on, y'all. List some more amazing invention shit. I know you're good for it. Don't hold back.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

Solar panels, for example - people getting fined for living without being plugged into the grid.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“How about creating products that last, and no more planned obsolescence in orger to make sure I make money off someone again in 10 years, it's ludicrous”

Lee Camp · 11:48 PM

A new type of solar power could power the world.

Lee Camp · 11:48 PM

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/02/21/up-for-grabs-ibm-solar-collector-magnifies-sun-2000x/

Lee Camp · 11:48 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Yeah, the real Tesla ran into shit. Now the company Tesla is running into shit. Sounds like a Jeff Bridges movie. (First Tucker reference of the millenium)”

Lee Camp · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

“Tesla is a perfect example how state created entities called corporations will pay politicials to legally destroy innovation, competition to protect their marketshare. States can revoke corporate charters.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Shara Rabich

“Eleanor, side effects of money cotrolling politics - one of the biggest challenges we face.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:49 PM

But again, you can't limit the amount of sun available - the sun market can't be restricted

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:49 PM

It can't be made scarce by Exxon or BP so it's not a "viable" energy solution

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“Excuse me, El, but Mr. Burns did exactly that (block out the sun) in a Simpsons episode.”

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

El, the leaked minutes from ALEC show that going after people with solar panels was top of their agenda

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

I'm not surprised.

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

“New Energy device from Brasil http://www.earth-heal.com/news/news/112-inventions/1472-brazil-free-energy-device.html”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“look at generators that create enough energy to run themselves and other appliances, we have the know how to make generators that ware WAY OVER UNITY”

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

And by the way - the reason we know about all these things is NOT the media. it's all because of internet. The internet is indeed allowing for an information revolution.

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

If we were still held down by traditional media, we would not know about Tesla cars, etc. etc.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

Yep. It has given rise to alternative media and outlets for truth

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from That Guy

“What is insane is that if you have enough solar panels to produce enough energy for yourself, you still have to be hooked up to the grid and you still have to pay monthly and annual costs AND in some states the electric company siphons off teh excess”

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“ok check this out generator running on its own exuast, closed system.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-XWK4Hxryg”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from Jordan Birnbaum

“BTW - didn't Tesla develop the means to produce unlimited clean energy? What ever happened that? because that might come in handy.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“Tesla did not come up with a free energy technology. He came up with a wireless power distribution system that the government would run and would be paid for by taxes. Coal still ran the gens”

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

Check out - URINE GENERATOR http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57547296-1/pee-power-african-teens-create-urine-fueled-generator/

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:54 PM

Tesla was yet another brain that was co-opted and marginalized by a corporate goon

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

Thank god we can finally piss our way to work.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:54 PM

Ha! Between that and the invisibility cloak, I am so set

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

Wow. Put those two together. Magic.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

5 minutes left! Any evil or awesome tech we're missing?

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

You could invisibly piss around the world.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

haha - that is my ultimate goal in life, lee

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“I participated in the debunking of a car that ran on the voltage of a 9 volt battery. he had 9,000 of them in the trunk”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“What is the first thing you would do with an invisibility cloak?!”

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

Becca. I would say I would use it to spy on the Koch Bros. and reveal their shit. But in fact, I'd watch someone in a shower first. You know, just to test it out.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“they are developing a photovoltaic paint here in Canada, at the university of waterloo, you wouldn't even need a solar cell, the paint on your car would be the solar cell”

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Mitchell Heldt

“The first thing that I would do with an invisibility cloak is forget where I put it”

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

Maybe there are already invisibility cloaks EVERYWHERE! And we just haven't noticed them!!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

Lee...you just blew my mind.

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

Thanks El.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I would get into political places and record them with an invisiblity cloak.”

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

I try

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“I would throw it off of me to look as tho i appeared out of no where and scare the piss out of someone lol”

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

Hey guys, we're almost done here. But Eleanor has an AWESOME new music video that will blow your FUCKING MINDS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C85R0q3ysMQ

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

@Becca - I would probably use it for the same thing at first, then fly to Washington and sneak into the oval office with an invisibilty cloak wrapped around a zoom camera

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

So you have to watch that. And then spread the word.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

Thanks Lee :)

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

We'll be back here next week. We try to keep to 7pm EST but you can always check at Facebook.com/LeeCampComedian.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

And also if you have any ideas for future tawks, let us know!

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

And if you have topic ideas, email them to LeeCampMail@gmail.com

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

Or twitter @LeeCamp

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

Or @rooftopeleanor

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“and if you want to know more about the venus project wayne and I are doing a talk as well.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

rooftoprevolutionaries.com

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Stanley Ulch

“I'd hide at the bilderberg meetings”

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Stanley - could you stand to see that many old men fucking hookers?

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Keep fighting, y'all.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

Can't unread that sentence

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

HA!

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“LMAO lee”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

Thanks again everyone for joining us!

Forum · 322

Forum· 322 comments

191 visitors

Tawkers AdminMar 18, 2014, 7:11 PM

Welcome to the comment section of the Tawk, where audience members can share their thoughts about the main conversation happening on the left. Don't by shy! Entering questions and comments is the only way to get the attention of the two Hosts on stage!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 9:04 PM

Sweet, I am so here.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 10:41 PM

Talking of technological evolution - TAWKERS IPHONE APP! Hell yes!..... Ok as you were

Robin MaynardMar 18, 2014, 10:50 PM

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 10:52 PM

doesnt this all just prove that robots will become bigger in years to come?

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:00 PM

Hey Eleanor and Lee! :-)

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:01 PM

Then put the atomic structure of aluminum from a cube to isohedron design :) invisible :)

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:01 PM

I just did lee

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:02 PM★ Spotlighted

I have a 3d printer. crazy technology

Robin MaynardMar 18, 2014, 11:02 PM

remind me to interrogate you about that kelly.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:02 PM

yes russians are trying to print organs

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:03 PM

LOL my friend and I tried to make a magnet motor.

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:03 PM

Organs AND pianos!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:03 PM

we made a centrifigal pump, turns out its been done already.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:03 PM

didnt someone have a 3D printed arm fitted recently?

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:03 PM★ Spotlighted

They 3D printed a perfectly-sized tracheal splint this week for a baby and successfully installed it.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:03 PM★ Spotlighted

yes i got mine from a online site

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:04 PM

Ethical questions are less about the technology, and more about the distribution of the technology.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:04 PM

mine is a replicator 2 from maker bot, pla plastic made from corn and it was 2400 canadian.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:04 PM

WOW really rebecca

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:04 PM★ Spotlighted

I want to 3d print a chicken Parmesan!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:05 PM

I will not print guns, trust me even for my dad i will not.

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:05 PM★ Spotlighted

Yes, they have 3d printed guns, however the cost exceeds merely buying one and they are fragile and unreliable when printed.

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

Lee, not surprising giving much tech is downdrift from DOD.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

The lab-made burger was grown from culture, it wasn't printed.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

How far does technology have to progress. We haven't progressed as fast as tech. we need to focus on ppl. We've reached a pinnacle in tech, where we basically have "replicators" ie 3d printers to make anything we need. Yet we can't feed everyone?

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:07 PM★ Spotlighted

Stanley, Of course we can feed everyone. That just doesn't fit current business models.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:07 PM★ Spotlighted

I personally don't think growing meat in a lab is going to end world hunger. We already produce plenty of food for everyone, we just do a shit job of fairly distributing it. Economics and politics get involved & we throw away billions of tons yearly.

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:08 PM★ Spotlighted

Lee, some argue we are approaching a singularity moment - when AI reaches human intelligence and begins to teach itself.

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:08 PM★ Spotlighted

Socially, we lag FAR behind technology!

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:09 PM

Lee, I call it co-evolution. Not unlike humans and dogs - now humans and technology.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

these smartwatches that you can wear - didnt they have those in the 80's? is it like the apple and they have just been upgraded?

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

Well, there has been an incredible breakthrough in programming recently. My husband told me about being able to programa robot that can balance a broomstick/basketball/whatever on its hand.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:10 PM

thats SO true Lee.....

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

This is HUGE and relevant because the programming style was such that each move had to leave the greatest number of moves available.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:10 PM

It wasn't just an If-then.

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:10 PM

Balance bots have been out for twenty five years. I love the hopper bots too

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

when I was a kid, here in Canada, I grew up where you cold buy day old doughnuts etc. now you can't because of liability...they can't even give away the food because of insurance, in case someone gets sick and sues.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:11 PM★ Spotlighted

robots will slowly take over the world. it'll be like Star Trek crossed with planet of the apes...

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:11 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Stanley - every time I have worked in food service, I have come up against this brick wall. SO I try to be active and find solutions (like Second Harvest, etc.) - but I have never had a manager that gave a shit.

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:11 PM★ Spotlighted

There are quad rotor helicopters that can balance sticks and place catch with them

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:12 PM

spam babies!

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:12 PM

aw ya, technology. Love those FB reminders lol

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:12 PM

lee is a demon child :)

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:12 PM★ Spotlighted

eleanor,only evil people have plans...good people have erase boards n shit

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:13 PM★ Spotlighted

ok here is some tech info we all should know about. http://www.venusproject.org/new-energy/free-energy-device-demonstration-adam-trombly.html

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

I want to start a community garden here, to supply fresh free veggies to the food bank, you know the red tape you have to go through, just to start a garden? and they want you to have liability insurance in case someone gets hurt or sick, it's disgus

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:14 PM

there will come a day when a drone will be filled with pepper spray. then watch all hell brake loose!!

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:14 PM

I've been reading EF Schumacher - the Buddhist Economics guy 0 and he warns about the "forward stampede" of technology and industry.

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:14 PM

As long as it doesn't smell like that hippy patchouli

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:14 PM

But he makes it clear that we have options.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:14 PM

I am going to eleanor and i will share the research for free.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:14 PM

We can't leave social policy up to the likes of politicians.

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:15 PM★ Spotlighted

In terms of drones as a delivery agent - it could have upsides. Like not having carbon emitting trucks trucking down the road instead.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:15 PM★ Spotlighted

Wa can actually DECIDE whether we want to adopt and pursue certain technologies, AND WE SHOULD DECIDE.

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:15 PM

I have a hydroponic garden in my kitchen. same output as a 20 x 20 foot outdoor garden. I did have frost damage when polar vortext broke window seal though

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:15 PM

Technological advance is not "inevitable" - we give industry permission to letout whatever they dream up.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:16 PM

makes you wonder just how the hell we all lived BEFORE technology. perish the thought. we must have starved...

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:16 PM★ Spotlighted

ok this is the most interesting technology I have seen up to this point. carbon nanotube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsuB-6-n-MM

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:16 PM

I saw that lee it ws awesome

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:16 PM★ Spotlighted

Lee, I do my best by actively participating in GNU/Linux

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:16 PM★ Spotlighted

But we can actually decide to slow down. To weigh options. To change the game from "PROVE it's harmful and we'll take it off the market" to "PROVE it's beneficial and we'll keep it around."

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:17 PM

We often suffer from people not wasting resources and using technology to compensate instead of being responsible to start with

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

what about stephen meyer. HHO car. new york to LA in 22 gallons of water.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:17 PM

anything that is good for us and the world will never get media attention. and like lee has said,where's the profit in that?

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:17 PM

I wish I could pause you guys....

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

That's right, Michael! With power comes responsibility! We can do better!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

Yes i saw that too. and we have replicated the technology of the gecko, can climb walls.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:18 PM

2 things will survive a nuclear explosion - cockroaches and keef richards....

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:18 PM

Japan sorts their garbage by day of the week and some communities have residents sort recyclables into over 30 different categories. here we have problems with just one or two

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:18 PM

Im happy with the way i was born :)

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

@Eleanor: No, thanks!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:18 PM

LOL

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

Maybe we can use the roaches to carry out the next OWS?

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:19 PM

with the phones we carry around everywhere its close

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:19 PM

I think we have the best tech we need, global communication amongst people who know the problem, I think nothing will change until we decide to make our talks actionable in as far as coming to some conclusions and showing that we can unite on a globa

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:19 PM

global scale

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:19 PM

Screw the microchips in your arm... how about the 100,000 Nanites cruising around inside your body and fixing everything that's wrong!

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:20 PM

Norway

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

ok and to all the nay sayers about technology, this guy was told it could not be done by engineers, now its done and working.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7PNSyAfCjk

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

I'm interested in human brain/computer interfaces we are beginning to develop. How long until we can upload/download data to and from our brain?

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

Norway's recycle program is so efficient that they are asking neighbors for garbage

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

“It is easy for me to imagine that the next great division of the world will be between people who wish to live as creatures and people who wish to live as machines.” - wendell berry

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee - the Army is working on spy bugs and bomb bugs. No kidding.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:21 PM

thats kewl mitchell

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:21 PM

lol lee, one day we'll all be like the robo brains on fallout, a brain in a robo body

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:21 PM★ Spotlighted

Can we transfer our individual consciousness to a computer? You know, that never dies?

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:21 PM

when you look up robotics, most is for army use.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:21 PM

@Lee - "Invasion of the Cockroaches" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHzissJhHXk

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:22 PM

Finland is trying recycling men's urine to grow food and make them less import dependent.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:22 PM

LOL lee,

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:22 PM

Soon Jordan, soon!

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:22 PM

Lee you are starting to sound like a guy I know who was tripping on bath salts LOL

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:22 PM

wouldnt this computer replicate itself? isnt that how it would be?

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:22 PM★ Spotlighted

Maybe I can delete some of the more painful memories from childhood...

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:22 PM★ Spotlighted

Death in the future may literally change to mean data loss.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

I'm with you on that one, down with the Koch's and all the other elites, they're only elite because mom and dad gave them every advantage in the world, or they are very good salesmen (criminals)

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:23 PM

OH YA i saw that too lee

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

Eternal sunshine?

Carl DodgeMar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM★ Spotlighted

Hey if we are putting consciousness into computers...can you guys make sure mine doesn't go into a Windows machine?

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM

here is some small scale tech for power generation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1FzkY9qzCE

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM

None

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM

The idea of robots taking over - replicating endlessly - aren't we projecting a human instinct with that? I'd presume machines more conscious of resource consumption.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM

It seems like humans hyper-focus on creating things just to see how much is possible, but I fail to be impressed when we can't even figure out how to feed, clothe and heal all the people. The "forward stampede" seems like "Trickle-down Economics"

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM★ Spotlighted

Many people eat printed food now. The process is called meat glueing and using an extract from blood plasma they can stick steaks together. Process is already in use for many restaurants and grocery stores in the US

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM★ Spotlighted

funny, with all the tech we have, we can't find a boeing 777 that fell off the radar!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM

did you see about the german trian company using resonance tech one the windows of the train to invade your thoughts?

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

And Mitchell, that's fucking GROSS. That's why we need to back up and eat real food, not meat glue!

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:25 PM

whos to say "they" dont know where this plane is and its all just a diversion! O.O

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:25 PM

planes are very ineffeicent, trains are way better.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:25 PM

I heard they moved the Bermuda Triangle to Malaysian air space.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

they are printing houses already, there is a version of a 3d printer that is large scale and uses concrete

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:26 PM

i think lee has watching Back To The futrue on repeat

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:26 PM

There is no money available for keeping track of planes that can be used as weapons to take out the mega nuclear reactor at the tip of India called Kudanculan. The NSA is busy looking for porn on our computers

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:26 PM

Contour Crafting!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:26 PM

Ya i saw that stan, I would have the link but i reformatted my comp all gone :(

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:27 PM

I wish people would realise, money is just an object that inspires people to do work

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:27 PM

The largest prototype that I 3D printed was nine inches

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:27 PM★ Spotlighted

Any technology or idea can be used to help or hinder, create or destroy.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:28 PM

nice mitchell

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:28 PM

i hear there is sale on inadvisability cloak down knockturn alley

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:28 PM

Back in the 80's, we were limited to UV stereo lithography

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:28 PM★ Spotlighted

@Kelly - A Tool is a Weapon.

Carl DodgeMar 18, 2014, 11:28 PM★ Spotlighted

Hey Lee...that plane is on the moon. http://elitedaily.com/news/world/british-tabloid-found-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-moon/

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:29 PM

even our mind is a wonderful tool OR a dangerous master.

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

Anyone here familiar with ET3 or Hyperloop?

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

Color Blind Artist Implants Antenna in His Skull to HEAR Colors - http://www.odditycentral.com/

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

I feel like humans are adolescents who have just reached driving age and now have the keys to a car that they shouldn't be driving with regard to technology. We are not mature enough to handle this shit.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:29 PM

hyperloop?

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:30 PM★ Spotlighted

Evacuated Tube Transport Technologies

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:30 PM★ Spotlighted

4000 MPH travel!

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:30 PM★ Spotlighted

Hyperloop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:30 PM

OH YA kewl stuff

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:30 PM

LA to NY in 45 minutes!

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:31 PM

sounds...fun?

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:31 PM

hey even the worms are evolving to combat GMO pesticides

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:31 PM

NY to Beijing in 2 hours

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:31 PM

www.et3.com!

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

doesn't anybody enjoy a good 4-hour road trip anymore?

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

can do the same with a mag-lev train

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:31 PM

I do jordan

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:32 PM

LOL @ Jordan!

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:32 PM

with you JB? anytime

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:32 PM

I do my best non thinking on them. just wish the car drove itself :)

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:32 PM

no because tech has us focused on the destination, not the journey

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:32 PM

There was a guy at sandia labs working on an inexpensive diamagnetic levitated train that did not need super cooled superconductors. I used his idea for a project but since then they have changed tech to something that costs more for some reason

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:32 PM

:-)

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:32 PM★ Spotlighted

drove 32hrs straight once...never again!!!!

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:32 PM★ Spotlighted

Improved virtual reality is likely to make travel less necessary.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:33 PM★ Spotlighted

I am ALL for self-driving cars! PARTY! PARTY!

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:33 PM

Can be redirected to Access portals which are no more than 15 minutes away

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:33 PM★ Spotlighted

all the major car companies are introducing autonomous cars next year

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:33 PM

why is it tech is first introduced in film and THEN in real life? anyone else notice that?

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:33 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee - Fuck those stratosphere-particulate assholes! I thought that idea was DEAD. DON'T DO IT - EVEN IF MALCOLM GLADWELL THINKS IT'S A GOOD IDEA (HE'S AN economist, for Christ's sake)!

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:33 PM

tawk about a mobile fun house!

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:33 PM

Introduction to ET3 here: http://youtu.be/3IfyqGKX9B8

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:33 PM

And if you want small scale and had to kill many with, look at nitinol, the navy did and said we should go this way.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmYqUSDch8

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:34 PM

But at the same time more class stratifying: Poor people get virtual vacations and wealthy people get to actually travel. Not unlike TV now really.

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:34 PM

I wasnt alone..4hr shifts with Levi. Still, never again.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:34 PM

because we dream it, then someone makes it a reality, so first, you have to dream!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:34 PM

Hard to kil many with darn spell chack mac spell check :)

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Jordan - I don't think we should give over full control to the car. We don't need to lose the skill sets inherent in driving, and if we're not driving, then we can't correct the computer, just like it can't correct for us if it's not driving.

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

I want my Chinese food delivered from… China!

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

I would like to see a new cargo train system that would have loads twice as wide and twice as high. Ability to move goods is a major factor in staying relevent in world economy

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:35 PM

it would give cruise control a whole new meaning

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:35 PM

Small scale tech, Hard to kill many with. navy did research. nitinol heat engines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmYqUSDch8

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:35 PM

@ Mitchell - but what if we move toward small, local economies? Local goods for local use?

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:35 PM

If someone is in academia and you've heard of them, I'd say it's 85% likely they are on a corporate payroll. Of course, that what makes Cornell West and (formerly) Elizabeth Warren all the more amazing.

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:35 PM

When 3d printing advanes enough, moving goods becomes a moot point.

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:35 PM★ Spotlighted

The farther one travels, the less one knows! I dunno what to think about the cars so I'm throwing down some Beatles lyrics

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:35 PM★ Spotlighted

90% of our brain is quiet,Eleanor

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:36 PM

yes rebecca has the right idea.

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:36 PM

@Lee... Touché

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:36 PM

LOL our mind quite? HAHAHAHAHAH

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

altho in Lee's case its only 75%...-ish

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Eleanor - EXACTLY! So, I still read maps. And I still do all my budgeting and taxes and shit longhand. Fuck you, calculator! I don't need you to THINK for me!

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

Eleanor, but yet were gaining the ability to simultaneously process more data in more streams than our ancestors encountered in a lifetime.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:36 PM

And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make. I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:37 PM

Just because you don't travel the world, doesn't mean you don't pay attention and know what/how the world operates!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:37 PM

exactly jordan

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:37 PM

What do you guys think about the next generation coming up? My niece is not 2 yrs old and uses an ipad better than me. it is natural to her

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:37 PM

@ Shara - yes, it's interesting. We know HOW to find things. Not the things themselves.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:38 PM★ Spotlighted

all of our communities are a microcasm of what is going on in the world, the assholes in your area, are just like the assholes everywhere, and the smart here, are just like the smart there! etc

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:38 PM★ Spotlighted

Bitcoin! (crypto currencies)

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:38 PM

@Becca - Ipad? That's like giving her an abacus!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:39 PM

if you want bitcoin knowledge look up david seaman, i stoppedwatching him cuz thats all he talks about.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:39 PM

exactly lee

Jane SmithMar 18, 2014, 11:39 PM

...good luck with that idea Lee.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:39 PM★ Spotlighted

So many of the communication and mobility devices that they've made for kids with special needs are incredible!

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:39 PM

I've was a long haul truck driver, after awhile, if you've been to one city, you've been to 'em all, they're just laid out differently

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:39 PM★ Spotlighted

gimmick

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:39 PM★ Spotlighted

Google glasses a gateway technology!

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM★ Spotlighted

Gimmick

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM★ Spotlighted

I've mined and used bitcoin. It's good technology - but it has to break out of angry nerd stage to gain adoption.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM

hey jane!

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM★ Spotlighted

who wants to see that shit all day?

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM

like a gateway drug?

Jane SmithMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM

..lee called us retards esentially

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM★ Spotlighted

Yes, glass is a gateway to direct brain/computer interfacing.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM

exactly Lee, we have to weed out the wicked...sometimes the wicked are so good at it, they hide behind smiles and fake wishes of good will

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM

I was told there'd be no math?

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM

google glases has to be the biggest gimmeck ever. thats like wearing a kaleidoscope tube on ya eyes

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:40 PM★ Spotlighted

That will most likely migrate into a contact instead of a wearable.

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

Contact lens*

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

why would they need bugs to watch us. If we know about the bugs, they already have the next advanced technology

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM

Gimmick. Implants will be accepted by the sheeple

Carl DodgeMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

So here is question since someone said WiFi...Last year at #SXSW paid homeless people to walk around and carry WiFi hotspots...ethically speaking how does everyone feel about that?

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM

Its bound to strain your binocular vision system, take it from me ;)

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM

NO that is bad think of it in reverse

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM

I mean, maybe something hanging on a necklace. but not covering the face.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM

altho,if you think about it. they have tried with subliminal advertising,maybe these glasses are the next step

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

I promote bitcoin, only because it take out the unneccessary middle men

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM

haha true! turns out a lot of people want a lot of shit...

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:41 PM

not our thoughts controling stuff but stuff controlling our thoughts

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:42 PM

and lets people keep more of their money

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:42 PM

Carl, mesh technology is a great idea - has we deployed it we'd already have ubiquitous broadband. It's basically that - everyone is a wifi hotspot.

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:42 PM★ Spotlighted

I think that it is great that they gave homeless jobs. Probably the best service that they ever got

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:42 PM★ Spotlighted

People will accept technology like that when they need it to keep up with the pack

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:42 PM

why dont we just end homlessness?

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:42 PM

Not a good idea Lee... most homeless are lactose intolerant

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:43 PM

Middle men, are people who are uncreative leaches who suck life from societies, otherwise known as salesmen

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:43 PM

anyone ever do that headband that lets you change the direction of the spinning planet on a computer screen just by thinking it? Pretty cool.

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

Eleanor, the real power of bitcoin is that it can become the tcp/ip of internet payments.

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

Bitcoin: for those who arent losing money fast enough in Wall Street

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:43 PM

@JB - now that would be cool to try

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

venus project, end to war poverty and politics, sound good? jaque fresco has some awesome ideas.

Jane SmithMar 18, 2014, 11:44 PM

no Jordan, but did you knwo they ahve a headband that can cure migrane headaches now/

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

ANYTHING can be a currency, eyelashes, bottlecaps, etc. I personally think we should never have got away from the barter system

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:44 PM

instead of shooting off missiles,shoot off food...as someone once said. food air miles

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:44 PM

@jane how? my mom gets really bad migraines.

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

Bitcoin depends on electricity and network connectivity which can both go poof

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:45 PM

we could do that,right?

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:45 PM

we might need a transition, open source ecology, the idea me and others are working on, ubuntu movement.

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

Lee, I'd love one. I'll have to wait for the used Tesla market, however.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

A list of some cool communication devices. Just to show you what's available. http://www.autismspeaks.org/family-services/resource-library/assistive-technology

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:45 PM

oh yes the tesla car.

Carl DodgeMar 18, 2014, 11:45 PM

I saw one of those Teslas...they are not bad cars! They look pretty slick

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:45 PM

That Guy, the whole world's infrastructure depends on those things now.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:46 PM★ Spotlighted

how about shooting off those t-shirt guns they fire into the crowds at sporting events. that makes getting shot at fun!

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:46 PM

cant have technology without energy

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:46 PM

We need a resource based economy, when we're at this population point. Ppl who have 18 kids in this day and age are just greedy! they will be resource hoarders, and we have limited resources, so let's plan properly

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:46 PM

@Jordan: http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/migraine-relief-thanks-to-fda-approved-electronic-headband/

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:46 PM

I need to make enough from my ecology projects to pay the rent, bills, and food.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:47 PM

thanks becca!

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:47 PM

right you are stanley. if we use some other currency we are still owned.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:47 PM★ Spotlighted

How about creating products that last, and no more planned obsolescence in orger to make sure I make money off someone again in 10 years, it's ludicrous

Jane SmithMar 18, 2014, 11:47 PM

i'll get the link from NPR...Jordan

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:47 PM

Stanley, poverty and number of children are directly linked. Fixing one fixes the other.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:47 PM

yes it deas eleanor.

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:47 PM

@ Stanley: You're talking about an economy that considers resources CAPITAL instead of incidental. Yes, we need that.

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:48 PM★ Spotlighted

Tesla is a perfect example how state created entities called corporations will pay politicials to legally destroy innovation, competition to protect their marketshare. States can revoke corporate charters.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:48 PM★ Spotlighted

Yeah, the real Tesla ran into shit. Now the company Tesla is running into shit. Sounds like a Jeff Bridges movie. (First Tucker reference of the millenium)

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:48 PM

I had one but reformat :(

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:48 PM★ Spotlighted

look at generators that create enough energy to run themselves and other appliances, we have the know how to make generators that ware WAY OVER UNITY

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:48 PM★ Spotlighted

Eleanor, side effects of money cotrolling politics - one of the biggest challenges we face.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:48 PM

what would happen if everyone turned to farming? like they did in the middle ages? you get your own plot of land and animals...you basically eat what you sow. would it work today?

Jane SmithMar 18, 2014, 11:48 PM

@Jordan...here's the link. It would make a great Mother's Day Gift.

Jane SmithMar 18, 2014, 11:48 PM

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/03/13/289787263/electronic-headband-prevents-migraines-with-tiny-jolts

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:49 PM

they are working on spray on solar and plz PLZ look at carbon nanotube, it is solar as well as battery as well as strongest shit we can make.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:49 PM

Thank you!

Steve ColbyMar 18, 2014, 11:49 PM

I totally agree with Stanley's comment. I just joined sorry.

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:49 PM

We can't even make half unity. I have a patent in process to boost solar efficiency by 3-8% and that is considered huge

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:49 PM

all those old tv antenna's can suck radiant energy out of the air, using masterfully created batteries that will hold a charge for decades

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:50 PM

Lucy - if it wan't ACTUALLY like the middle ages. People were pretty miserable then, what with the feudal system and being taxed all to hell and oppressed and not having sanitation and all that. But I get your idea.

Michael JordetMar 18, 2014, 11:50 PM

I gotta run... LOVE talking' tech with you guys! Shameless plug: Check out my TEDx talk "An Introduction to the Next Quantum Leap In Transportation" here: http://youtu.be/3IfyqGKX9B8

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:50 PM

mitchell look at carbon nanotube.

Jane SmithMar 18, 2014, 11:50 PM

@Jordan...here's howit works

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:50 PM

Lucy, Not for me as I'm disabled. Farming isn't an option. My disability has given me a different view of technology - not as evil but as helpful.

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:50 PM★ Spotlighted

Excuse me, El, but Mr. Burns did exactly that (block out the sun) in a Simpsons episode.

Jane SmithMar 18, 2014, 11:50 PM

http://www.cefaly.us/en/how-it-works

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:50 PM

go to youtube where a canadian man near me, has created a way to get way over unity with a power, he was on the dragons den, and they turned him down

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:51 PM★ Spotlighted

New Energy device from Brasil http://www.earth-heal.com/news/news/112-inventions/1472-brazil-free-energy-device.html

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:51 PM

I will definitly look at that ted talks whoever sent that link.

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:51 PM

the day those fat cat asshats figure out how ration out the sun,is the day we all live a dome that has timed daylight hours

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:52 PM

As soon as they claim over unity, start looking for the flaw in their measurments

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

BTW - didn't Tesla develop the means to produce unlimited clean energy? What ever happened that? because that might come in handy.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:52 PM

HHO generators, ohh i got one. one sec

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:52 PM

Tesla had ALL that tech fig'd out, and then he was gone, as well as all his research...look it up, I think it was one of the greatest losses to mankind

Shara RabichMar 18, 2014, 11:52 PM

Lee, and we have to constantly fight corporations willing to chuck the whole of the internet so they can keep monetizing bits of data known as "content".

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

What is insane is that if you have enough solar panels to produce enough energy for yourself, you still have to be hooked up to the grid and you still have to pay monthly and annual costs AND in some states the electric company siphons off teh excess

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:53 PM

@Stanley agreed wholeheartedly

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:53 PM★ Spotlighted

ok check this out generator running on its own exuast, closed system.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-XWK4Hxryg

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:53 PM★ Spotlighted

Tesla did not come up with a free energy technology. He came up with a wireless power distribution system that the government would run and would be paid for by taxes. Coal still ran the gens

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:53 PM

heres to another 25 years of the internet!

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:53 PM

the greatest ignorance, is intolerance due to self-preservation

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:53 PM

Stupid movies.

Carl DodgeMar 18, 2014, 11:54 PM

Tesla has a shop in the Tysons mall here in DC...That was how I found out about them http://www.shoptysons.com/Shopping/Details/174337

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:54 PM

ok and check this out, geet power.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSiShiu9Sgs

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:54 PM

coal ran wardencliff tower?

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:55 PM

thats the trickle down effect Lee

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:55 PM

prolly just asking

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

I participated in the debunking of a car that ran on the voltage of a 9 volt battery. he had 9,000 of them in the trunk

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

What is the first thing you would do with an invisibility cloak?!

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:56 PM★ Spotlighted

they are developing a photovoltaic paint here in Canada, at the university of waterloo, you wouldn't even need a solar cell, the paint on your car would be the solar cell

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:56 PM★ Spotlighted

The first thing that I would do with an invisibility cloak is forget where I put it

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:56 PM★ Spotlighted

I would get into political places and record them with an invisiblity cloak.

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:56 PM

LOL exactly lee

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:56 PM

I would make a wallet out of the invisibility cloak

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:57 PM

how would you know you had one? bit Emperor's New Clothes...

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:57 PM

nah it looks like predetor you can still see it.

Becca GambsMar 18, 2014, 11:57 PM★ Spotlighted

I would throw it off of me to look as tho i appeared out of no where and scare the piss out of someone lol

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:57 PM

lol

That GuyMar 18, 2014, 11:57 PM

invisible rolling papers

Jordan BirnbaumMar 18, 2014, 11:57 PM

hey guys - in 5 minutes I'm doing a tawk with Rebecca about the power and limits of online community. It's a subject I think you all know a little bit about! so join us! http://tawke.rs/1i2FXKv

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:57 PM

I can't discuss the ones that I am working on.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:58 PM

more like the empires' new clothes

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:58 PM

thar would be kewl, that guy? LOL

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:58 PM

I am listening now :)

Rebecca Westbrook TokerMar 18, 2014, 11:58 PM

You guys are awesome! Thanks so much for hanging out!

Lucy DyerMar 18, 2014, 11:58 PM

i'd get 3 mates with me and do a Christmas Carol on the Koch Brothers,the fat cat bankers...etc

Mitchell HeldtMar 18, 2014, 11:58 PM

We forgot how to tie knots too

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:59 PM★ Spotlighted

and if you want to know more about the venus project wayne and I are doing a talk as well.

Stanley UlchMar 18, 2014, 11:59 PM★ Spotlighted

I'd hide at the bilderberg meetings

kelly mackinMar 18, 2014, 11:59 PM

LOL stan\

kelly mackinMar 19, 2014, 12:00 AM

me too

kelly mackinMar 19, 2014, 12:00 AM★ Spotlighted

LMAO lee

kelly mackinMar 19, 2014, 12:00 AM

dam your funny

Stanley UlchMar 19, 2014, 12:00 AM

haha, I'd make a tape, Politicians gone mild!

kelly mackinMar 19, 2014, 12:00 AM

LOL el

kelly mackinMar 19, 2014, 12:01 AM

ok im off to rebeccas tawk about online power

kelly mackinMar 19, 2014, 12:01 AM

yes and thank you both and the rest of you as well.

Stanley UlchMar 19, 2014, 12:01 AM

Ciao Ciao, eh! lol