Eleanor Goldfield

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Jun 3, 2014

Activists Eleanor Goldfield and Lee Camp dive into the controversial topic of Veterans - from the current VA scandal to the Gitmo/Bergdahl swap. Come join in and let us know where you stand!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Hey everyone! Thanks for joining this week's REVOLTING tawk

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Lee may be running a bit late - think he got collared by the cops for giving food to a homeless vet

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Which brings up today's topic

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

Oh - and please let everyone know you're here! Tweet, facebook post, carrier pigeon, etc

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:02 PM

I know we got a late start on choosing the topic, but this is a hot topic right now, so let us know what your thoughts are!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

Let's just start with the news - the Bergdahl case.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“Already did and with this being my first time I thought it was audio based”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

Leo, you can always put on some RR while you type :)

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

*shameless self promotion

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“i know i am not american so maybe i am a little out of the loop but...when i heard the story of this Gimo/POW swap,i knew something didnt add up”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

@Lucy - you probably know more than most Americans, sadly

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“and when Im done some redavted tonight”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

the story is essentially that bergdahl has been a POW for 5 years and we traded 5 gitmo prisoners for his return

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“The sad thing is againt he mainstream spin on the situation yelling treason”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

@leo - yeah, bc he was a deserter, apparently

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

also, the typical left/right hectoring about how dangerous it is to release any prisoners from gitmo

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

all the while, most of them haven't actually been charged with anything

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

not to mention, if we're just talking left/right, then bush released something like 150 prisoners from gitmo during his presidency. obama has released 87

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“if tis that easy to release prisoners from gitmo,why cant we find more POW's to "trade" with?”

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

Sorry for the delay! Hey everybody

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“Yup and the only reason they havent been released is out of fear of them now becoming "terrorist"”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

@leo - yep. you never know who could be a terrorist!

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

El - Although aren't there still a bunch in Gitmo who have been cleared for release by every court and yet aren't released?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:07 PM

@Lee - yes, from what I understand.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:07 PM

There was even a Swedish national in there a few years ago who was finally released after years of back and forth

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

Who ever thought we'd see the day when the Republicans would demand we leave a POW behind?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:07 PM

But you know - he was originally from Iran so even though he'd grown up in Sweden, had a job and a family, he could turn at any moment!

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

And the Swedish are so peaceful.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

well, now we are :)

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

@Lee - not only that, but a former POW - McCain was on Cspan this morning talking about how dangerous it is to release prisoners from gitmo, and how we never should have done the trade

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“i think its best to hang on to the innocent ones ..just incase they are radicalised in gitmo”

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

Let's be honest, as "dangerous" as they claim these detainees are - probably all of them were arrested for pre-crimes: The idea that they were PROBABLY going to do something.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

Wasn't there an investigation into that? Something like 92% of all detainees, past and present, hadn't actually commiteed a crime

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

which is one of the reasons trials aren't being carried out...there's nothing to try them for

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

wow, that's committed not commiteed

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“Something about $ for info on "terrorist" too right”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“that just caused a bunch of people to start pointing fingers at everyone else”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

@leo - yeah, i have heard that as well. under torture, people started calling out names. random names just to make the torture stop

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“oh please no grammar Nazi today or im going down in flames”

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

And also this debate in the media about whether Bergdahl "walked away" or not. Does it really matter?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“not torture just "enhanced interrogations"”

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

Yeah, I assume under torture you say anything.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

@Lee - good question. I actually spoke to a friend of mine who served in Iraq about this.

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“enhanced, my arse. what,did they tickle the prisoner to near death with a goose feather? i think not”

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“yes leo the us was offering "cash 4 terrorists" the problem was that anyone who had a grudge could get money for people they didnt like ...em your dog shits on my lawn again and you're going to gitmo”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

He said it matters to the soldiers who risked their lives to look for him. HOwever, at the end of the day, none of them should've been over there in the first place. And none of them should be left behind

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“all they want is the most exploitable part of any story to push agendas on and sell daipers and viagra”

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

To me all of this shows the lack of respect the corporatocracy has for soldiers. Some of them are fighting for their country. Some are young and poor. But either way, these assholes who run the country send them to die for oil and then won't cover

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

their health care, won't take care of them upon return.

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

It makes sense that they wouldn't care about veterans health care considering they don't care enough to not send them to die for petty power games and oil pipelines.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

Exactly. That's the point my friend was making too. The larger issue isn't whether he's "worth" 5 Gitmo detainees b/c he's a deserter. The issue is he, nor anyone else, should've been over there in the first fucking place

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

Yep. As is evident by the latest VA scandal

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“send these bastards in to the job themselves. let them see what a pile shite it really is. oh yes,but they dont want to get their manicured hands dirty”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

war is young men dying and old men talking as the saying goes

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

but in reality, it should be pretty simple and straightforward: if you can't afford veterans, you can't afford the war

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

@El - well said.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“Its infuriating the way poor people are sucked into the military mind frame then spit out after being used for corporate agendas under the illusion of fighting to "defend". What hurts its when you shit on the military complex and those same people”

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

And if you CAN afford veterans, you probably still can't afford war. It seems war is the new way to launder tax dollars for the oligarchy. We pay taxes, they take them, give the money to military contractors who pay the lobbyists and the campaign

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

contributions.

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

So it's how they launder tax dollars. If we allowed them to simply steal the tax dollars, maybe there would be no war.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

@Lee - good point. We spent $2 trillion on the war in Ira1

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

Iraq.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

90% of that went to the top 1% of Americans

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

Halliburton alone made $39 billion from Iraq

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“its crazy that the ones who are most eager for wars are the ones who are least likely fight or send their own family members to fight in them”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

@Barry - very true. I think there's one congressman who has a child who served or serves in the military - in actual combat zones

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

Now, I don't think anyone should be in a combat zone, particularly not a corporately sponsored one but the disproportionate ratio is interesting

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

Like Leo said, the poor get sucked in - hey, free education, you get to see the world!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

It's a "silent" draft, in reality.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

The job market is shit, college is too expensive, but hey, if you join the armed forces, we'll take care of both

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“and now obama wants to leave over 9,000 troops behind? you've done ya job,now get the fuck out and stay out!”

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

And the military recruits much more in low income areas than upper income

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

@Lee - not at all surprising. Rich kids don't want or need to join the military.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:22 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“BS about pulling troops out but more military contractors are another easy way out for human rights to be violated with no acountability”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

@Leo - as showcased in Dirty Wars. If you guys haven't seen that film, I highly highly recommend it

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“and why,when rich kids do join,do they start at the top? why not start them with everyone else?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“Dirty wars is fcken dope”

Lee Camp · 11:24 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“eleanor and lee would you support my bid to have my house listed as an independant country”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

@Barry - depends on what your socio-political structure looked like

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

And if you'd invite me over for wine.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“@Barry - if corporations can be people,why the hell not?”

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

Barry - can we have slaves at your country house? I have a few I might need to bring. ...But they're dogs.

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“thats not a bad Idea”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“yes on the wine lol and im not so sure on the slaves lee”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

Well, Lee is from Virginia

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

I think I'd rather just stick to the wine, myself

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“My most recent fck it plan has always been move to mexico or detroit and rebuild”

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

By the way (and I'm saying this because it's newsworthy not just to pimp my show) - On "Redacted Tonight" this Friday we're going to reveal an exclusive video of General Petreas being introduced as having overseen wars for oil - and he doesnt deny it

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

@Leo - Detroit has some incredibly beautiful abandoned buildings.

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

It's a pretty insane clip.

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“as long as your slaves dont shit on my lawn”

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“Awesoem”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

I'm not surprised. In a recent documentary on Rumsfeld "The Unknown Known", Rumsfeld even SMILES when asked about lies and bullshit stories he used to run this fear factory military industrial complex

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

It's fucking infuriating

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

The sociopathic war hawks don't care if they're found out. Because there is no system of accountability and justice in place to take them down

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“you guys need someone cranking out 10 memes per episode then flooding social media”

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

@Eleanor - seriously. There's no accountability at all.

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

It's amazing they don't fear they'll be arrested one day.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

Was that the Errol Morris' ?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

@patrick, yes

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:29 PM

I have to say it's one of my goals to live to see the day all these cronies, crooks and corporate whores get taken down

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“not plugging your show pfffttt yeah right ...its got so bad now lee the neighbours kids are shouting SEE LEE CAMP ON THE INTERWEB he he”

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

@Barry - sounds pretty awful.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“Henry Kissinger — 'Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.'”

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

I hope you have plans to have your brain kept alive in a jar then, El.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

Oh don't be such a cynic, Lee

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

:D sorry

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“taking them down is possible but it takes a million minds and a free& open interwebbs”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

@Lee - remember, don't doubt :)

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

Damn straight. I wouldn't be here if I didn't think there was a chance.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

@Leo - fuck yes, it does

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

Eleanor, I'll work on that.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

;)

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“History will look back at these years as the beginning”

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

Have people kept up with this VA scandal as well?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“at least give 'em hell before their next false flag fear based mind control event”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

I was just gonna write something about that

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

By the way, I don't know if my friend Carl is attending this Tawk, but he's a veteran. Speak up if you're here, Carl.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

Can't spell his name, but the head of the VA resigned

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“seems to me that if they can afford to go to war,have their little jollies at the tax payers expense.....then they can damn well afford to help the vets”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

I don't see his resignation helping much though.

Lee Camp · 11:34 PM

Shenseki (sp)

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“It's frustrating for the families of Veterans, too. To know that our loved ones need help and not be able to do anything about it.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

From what I've heard, when the VA does give care, it's great health care. But they don't have the resources to give enough care

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

With the Vietnam era vets getting older and more and more new vets coming in, the system can't handle them all

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

Yes, someone emailed me recently asking to bring attention to their son who keeps being sent back overseas despite have PTSD and needing help and needing to be off the front lines.

Lee Camp · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Someone is introducing a bill to allow Veterans to go to a Doc outside the VA if necessary”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

@Lee - wow, that's disgusting.

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

Yeah, it's pretty sick.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM

@Dawn - I heard about that as well. But wouldn't that mean paying for care as well?

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

These people are sent on 4 and 5 tours.

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“No Eleanor, their health care is always broke”

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

There's Carl!

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“Lived in a shelter full of shattered vets. They dont give a fuck about the ones who servived almost getting sacrificed on the alter of the battle field”

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“I don't know. I think the Gov should have to cover the cost”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“It is never good...even when its good, it sucks. Their big idea of helping is pills”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

@Carl - and I'm guessing those pills don't come with a side of actual therapy

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“and now LA is outlawing feeding the homeless.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

@Lucy - yep. I still do it though. Fuck it.

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

Carl - Sounds the same as the general population: Take a pill and shut up. But the difference is that our govt should clearly be the ones taking care of vets.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Slow your roll Eleanor!! You want therapy?? Six month wait on that”

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

There is perhaps no more obvious place our tax dollars should go than to veteran health care.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

@Carl - I actually thought it was more. But really any wait on therapy is bullshit

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“oh id love to see them try and enforce that in LA we should swarm skid row with food and face off against the authorities”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

@Leo - we should talk about that idea. I live right by skid row.

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

Six month wait for therapy is insane.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

And if I remember correctly, there was a several month wait for all medical care

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“I wonder if Congress has to wait six months for a therapist. They must be messed up from all the screwing us that they are doing.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“I will say that with the "Government Health Care" or Obama-care, whatever you want to call it. I can't get behind it till they can prove beyond a doubt that it WON'T be like the VA system.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

@Carl, it sounds like both systems are a bad representation of Government sponsored health care, the VA obviously more so

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

Carl - Do health insurance companies make money from VA care? Because if not, then Obamacare is different.

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carol Needsajob

“the fact that science now says the human brain is not even developed until 25, yet we send 18 year olds to war is atrocious, humans send the children to kill one another, it is grotesque. the young man Bergdahl was only 24 when he walked..”

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

Carol - I'm pretty sure the human brain has not developed YET.

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“No I mean like a Government Universal Heath Care system...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“like Lee says we are all monkeys with nuclear weapons. (which you can see on his show redacted tonight - plug plug!!)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Lee has a point. Obamacare was written to favor the Ins. Companies”

Lee Camp · 11:43 PM

Oh, you're talking single payer? With Obamacare insurance companies rake in a shitload of money - which generally means they'll make sure it works to some degree.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

@Dawn - it was written BY insurance companies - lobbyists and heads of big pharm. gross

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“I have seen what the Government did with the VA Universal Healthcare, I don't wish that on anyone.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM

@Carl - what do you think would be a way to fix the VA system?

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

Lucy knows how to get her comment spotlighted - plug my show.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“@Eleanor- Agree”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“The only way is to destroy it all and start over Eleanor. Sometimes things are just beyond fixing.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Carl, how about we give Vets the same healthcare that Congress gets?”

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“so lee you are implying we are immature in the head ....mmm incuriousbly”

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“When implemented in Massachusetts, Insurance premiums rose 17% in the first year. This is about $$”

Lee Camp · 11:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“so lee are you doing your shows for free...”

Lee Camp · 11:46 PM

Barry - I get paid like a regular office job. Not getting rich if that's what you're asking.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

@Carl - what would be an interim setup? Building a new system takes a long time.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“I have PTSD, it affects my sleep. The VA sent me to a sleep study. It was a tore up roll-a-way cot in a doctors waiting room and they kicked me out at 4AM”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

@Carl - wow, that's terrible. Do you still get health care through the VA?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Dawn, sadly Congress HAS the same health care as Vets. They just have their own hospitals and doctors.”

Lee Camp · 11:49 PM

Carl - I imagine most of Congress goes outside their system if it's not good. Most of them are millionaires.

Lee Camp · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Yes Eleanor, I do.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:49 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“and the VA doesn't have enough docs to go around. I think we've found a solution...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM

It will be interesting to see what happens with the VA situation

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

Yes, it will.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Yes, Lee that was the other thing I was going to say it their Tricare cards can go outside the building. I just paid off a $1200 collects on my credit report, because the VA wouldn't cover me while traveling. I had to go to the ER in CA”

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

Jesus!

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

That's fucking ridiculous.

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“:O”

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“come live here carl,you'll get what you need”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

@Lucy - I imagine British veterans have a much easier time with health care

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

People in the UK and Canada complain about their health care until they experience US health care. Then they generally stop complaining.

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Griffin Darklighter

“That's one of the biggest problems with the VA... Not enough facilities and doctors, and a mishandled bureaucracy.”

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“@Lee - very true”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Eleanor, There is no temp fix. The nurses are lying on the reports. They are putting into the computer there is no wait time for appts so we really have NO IDEA how long this is going on or how deep it goes.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

@Carl - yeah, I heard about that. They wouldn't put the appointment request into the system until it was 2 weeks away from the actual appointment that they GOT, not when they requested it

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

It sounds like insurance company employees being pressured to find a reason to say no to covering surgeries.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:54 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Right, they are still doing that after this story has hit the news.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Griffin Darklighter

“The fixes are actually easier to say than to implement. Streamline the system. Well, how do we streamline a system that is so hugely backlogged that there are people still waiting for reports from the Korean War?”

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Thank goodness for the VE whistleblower. Suppose he'll have to hide in Russia, now?”

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“same here lee but its starting to follow the american system ...dear america thanks for the movies..music...comedians....but keep your healthcare system”

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

Ha. Yeah, good thing we didn't export our health care.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:56 PM

Nope. We export democracy

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:56 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carol Needsajob

“@Carl what motivation would the nurses have to lie, not being argumentative just trying to understand the logic of hiding the problems..”

Lee Camp · 11:56 PM

We're wrapping up shortly. If you feel like it, you can watch the entire first episode my show online right now - http://leecamp.net/heres-the-full-premiere-of-my-new-weekly-tv-show/

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

@Carol - the incentive, I think, is to make it look like the system is working - to make it look like all is well so they continue to get funding

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

New eps come out every Friday and will always be up online.

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

We're also at www.Facebook.com/RedactedTonight

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from leo martinez

“Media, marketing and war is the only thing that gets exported”

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“export democracy on missiles muahahahahahahaha”

Lee Camp · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Don't even get me started on surgery! I had to go have a 3rd surgery from a "civilian"doctor to clean up a mess that was caused by the mistakes by VA surgeons.Thank God I got on my wifes insurance.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:57 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carol Needsajob

“that makes sense Eleanor, here in Canada that would keep the funding at the same level, if you showed a deficit in services you would get more cash”

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

Jesus, Carl. You had to have surgery to fix what your doctor did to you?!!

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Griffin Darklighter

“BTw, Lee... Congrats on the show!! :D”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“To keep their job. They would get written up for putting down REAL dates and times.”

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

Thanks! Hope you guys will tell people about it. We're small but mighty.

Lee Camp · 11:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carl Dodge

“Yes Lee”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“its a shame these powwow's dont last longer”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:58 PM

@Barry - but they are every Tuesday!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Carol Needsajob

“@Carl I hope you are well”

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

Check out Eleanor's music if you haven't already. It kicks ass hard.

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Small but mighty. Where are you filming?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:59 PM

Tell your friends to join us every week - and suggest topics

Lee Camp · 11:59 PM

Dawn - in DC. It airs on RT.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

You can find me and the band here: rooftoprevolutionaries.com and eleanor-swede.com

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Griffin Darklighter

“I do believe the framework and room will maintain as long as people are chatting, even after the hosts have left.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

Yes, please do carry on the conversation! The tawk doesn't close once we leave

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

PS - you guys are welcome to keep chatting after the Tawk is over. No need to leave until you want to. We'll be back at 7pm EST every Tuesday with new topics. Keep changing the world everybody.

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Dawn Adams

“Cool. watched last week. Maybe we'll get down there to add to the laughing audience. Take care!”

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Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 10:59 PM

Hey Eleanor and Lee! looking forward to the tawk tonight :-)

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:01 PM

or he is doing their donut run for them

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:02 PM★ Spotlighted

Already did and with this being my first time I thought it was audio based

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:03 PM

I sent smoke signals to my friends

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:03 PM★ Spotlighted

i know i am not american so maybe i am a little out of the loop but...when i heard the story of this Gimo/POW swap,i knew something didnt add up

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:04 PM★ Spotlighted

and when Im done some redavted tonight

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:04 PM

this is true

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:04 PM★ Spotlighted

The sad thing is againt he mainstream spin on the situation yelling treason

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:05 PM

you know,i don't think we will ever know the "real" reason behind this. maybe it is treason....

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:05 PM★ Spotlighted

if tis that easy to release prisoners from gitmo,why cant we find more POW's to "trade" with?

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

Yup and the only reason they havent been released is out of fear of them now becoming "terrorist"

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:06 PM

hey slacker...sorry Lee. :-)

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:06 PM

shit iv missed the start

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:07 PM

terrorists ted ...there fucking everywhere

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:07 PM

@Lee - thats what i was thinking too

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:08 PM★ Spotlighted

i think its best to hang on to the innocent ones ..just incase they are radicalised in gitmo

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:09 PM

Or they were just military age males

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:10 PM

and ideas are SO dangerous,arent they?

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

Something about $ for info on "terrorist" too right

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:10 PM

its a shame vc never held on to mc cain in nam

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

that just caused a bunch of people to start pointing fingers at everyone else

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:11 PM

oh wait,i know. i think there isnt a "law" for the CIA etc to arrest them when they come out,and they haven't gathered up enough money to pay someone to pass it

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:11 PM★ Spotlighted

oh please no grammar Nazi today or im going down in flames

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:12 PM

you and me both Leo lol

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:12 PM★ Spotlighted

not torture just "enhanced interrogations"

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:12 PM

It doesnt matter its focusding on the dumb shit like brian williams

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:13 PM★ Spotlighted

enhanced, my arse. what,did they tickle the prisoner to near death with a goose feather? i think not

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:13 PM★ Spotlighted

yes leo the us was offering "cash 4 terrorists" the problem was that anyone who had a grudge could get money for people they didnt like ...em your dog shits on my lawn again and you're going to gitmo

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:13 PM★ Spotlighted

all they want is the most exploitable part of any story to push agendas on and sell daipers and viagra

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:14 PM

hpe its not sold together leo

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:15 PM★ Spotlighted

send these bastards in to the job themselves. let them see what a pile shite it really is. oh yes,but they dont want to get their manicured hands dirty

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:16 PM

damn you keyboard...stop conspiring against me

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:17 PM

and they call them freedom fighters. mmmmmmm,not living up to their name are they?

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:18 PM

oh and did you see the tweet the POW supossidly sent BEFORE he was released?

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

Its infuriating the way poor people are sucked into the military mind frame then spit out after being used for corporate agendas under the illusion of fighting to "defend". What hurts its when you shit on the military complex and those same people

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:18 PM

raill you for it. fortunatly more are becoming aware but its not till after they go see for themselves

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

its crazy that the ones who are most eager for wars are the ones who are least likely fight or send their own family members to fight in them

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:19 PM

dont know if this is true or not,or just a whacking great spin job,but still - http://www.tpnn.com/2014/06/01/what-until-you-see-these-perplexing-tweets-from-released-pows-father/

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:19 PM

killing people is big buisness

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:20 PM

even here im sick of my government dictating my life

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:21 PM★ Spotlighted

and now obama wants to leave over 9,000 troops behind? you've done ya job,now get the fuck out and stay out!

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:22 PM

its like those assholes you get in bars who say ..you're gunna get a beating ...os soon as my bud answers his phone

Carol NeedsajobJun 3, 2014, 11:22 PM

Frightening article about Obama heading to the EU to ask for united front against Putin...not a cool thing to see history repeating itself.

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:22 PM★ Spotlighted

BS about pulling troops out but more military contractors are another easy way out for human rights to be violated with no acountability

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:22 PM

isnt it something like 108k military contractors

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

and why,when rich kids do join,do they start at the top? why not start them with everyone else?

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:24 PM★ Spotlighted

eleanor and lee would you support my bid to have my house listed as an independant country

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:24 PM★ Spotlighted

Dirty wars is fcken dope

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

@Barry - if corporations can be people,why the hell not?

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

thats not a bad Idea

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:25 PM

party at Barry's gaff!

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

yes on the wine lol and im not so sure on the slaves lee

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:26 PM

and the national emblem of virginia is the dog wood....

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

My most recent fck it plan has always been move to mexico or detroit and rebuild

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

as long as your slaves dont shit on my lawn

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:27 PM★ Spotlighted

Awesoem

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:27 PM

@Lee - wish more would own up to that

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:28 PM★ Spotlighted

you guys need someone cranking out 10 memes per episode then flooding social media

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:28 PM

It comes down to people not giving a shit

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:28 PM

at least the older fcks

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

not plugging your show pfffttt yeah right ...its got so bad now lee the neighbours kids are shouting SEE LEE CAMP ON THE INTERWEB he he

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:29 PM

The Occult Mockery of Police And Military presentation by Mark Passio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QogSg6qvJaY

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:30 PM★ Spotlighted

Henry Kissinger — 'Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.'

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:30 PM

kidding lee ...plug away kid

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:30 PM★ Spotlighted

taking them down is possible but it takes a million minds and a free& open interwebbs

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

History will look back at these years as the beginning

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

at least give 'em hell before their next false flag fear based mind control event

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:32 PM

no please share

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:32 PM

im a brain wizard baby :)

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:32 PM

The VA scandal is horrendous.

Carol NeedsajobJun 3, 2014, 11:33 PM

@Phil, no matter how many times the people in power slip up and tell us the truth, we tend to suffer amnesia collectively and expect the powerful to act for the betterment of all...it is our lack of memory that serves them well.

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:33 PM★ Spotlighted

seems to me that if they can afford to go to war,have their little jollies at the tax payers expense.....then they can damn well afford to help the vets

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:33 PM

I am here...

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:33 PM

so did you guys enjoy barneys speech on how america is much more awesomer than everyone else so suck it biaaaatch

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:33 PM

Fck yeah someone iterview him quick

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:33 PM

@barry - feeding each others bloated egos

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:34 PM

@carol i agree. cognitive dissonance and big daddy gov abandonment issues play in as well

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

It's frustrating for the families of Veterans, too. To know that our loved ones need help and not be able to do anything about it.

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:34 PM

seen on lees fb page that 1in 4 homeless people are vets ..lucy

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:35 PM

@barry - yeah i saw that.

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:35 PM

The dark occultists that run The Police States of Nightmerica call the police and military "Our Dogs"

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:35 PM

Its not gonna help but I always see that as a brick of the empire falling out to build a solution

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:35 PM

hence dog tags

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:35 PM★ Spotlighted

Someone is introducing a bill to allow Veterans to go to a Doc outside the VA if necessary

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:36 PM

but they have the resource to send these guys to war in the first place

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

No Eleanor, their health care is always broke

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

Lived in a shelter full of shattered vets. They dont give a fuck about the ones who servived almost getting sacrificed on the alter of the battle field

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:36 PM

woohoo carl welcome

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:36 PM

survived* altar*

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

I don't know. I think the Gov should have to cover the cost

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:36 PM

at this point I feel like let the system crash and burn

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

It is never good...even when its good, it sucks. Their big idea of helping is pills

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:37 PM★ Spotlighted

and now LA is outlawing feeding the homeless.

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:37 PM

its doing it on its own but to slow, people are getting to used to the "new normal"

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:37 PM

heard MDMA helps cure PTSD

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:38 PM

We need to make a documentary or short series of presentations directed at the militarized police showing them what they are doing is WRONG

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:38 PM

@Eleanor - good for you :-)

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:38 PM

fuck, anything jesus and god

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:38 PM★ Spotlighted

Slow your roll Eleanor!! You want therapy?? Six month wait on that

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:38 PM★ Spotlighted

oh id love to see them try and enforce that in LA we should swarm skid row with food and face off against the authorities

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:39 PM

MUSHROOMS! MUSHROOMS!

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:39 PM

and they wonder why there are so many shootings,stabbing,robberies etc (sighs) its a fucked up world

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:39 PM

lets fcken do it!

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:40 PM

well said lucy.....

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:40 PM

seems they are getting ready for something. cant have a standing army on our own country's soil, so just militarize the police!

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:40 PM

but if you go private,you get the therapy you need...fucking insane indeed

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:40 PM

didnt homeland insecurity just buy a billion rounds of hollow points or some shit?

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

I wonder if Congress has to wait six months for a therapist. They must be messed up from all the screwing us that they are doing.

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

I will say that with the "Government Health Care" or Obama-care, whatever you want to call it. I can't get behind it till they can prove beyond a doubt that it WON'T be like the VA system.

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:41 PM

you beside skid row ...u a badass mofo

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:41 PM

i have never gone longer than 2 weeks waiting for any kind of appointment

Carol NeedsajobJun 3, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

the fact that science now says the human brain is not even developed until 25, yet we send 18 year olds to war is atrocious, humans send the children to kill one another, it is grotesque. the young man Bergdahl was only 24 when he walked..

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:41 PM

Soc Security, National Oceanic & Atmospheric and I think the FDA bought a bunch of ammo

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:42 PM

theyre funneling it through those agencies for something

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:42 PM★ Spotlighted

No I mean like a Government Universal Heath Care system...

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

Lee has a point. Obamacare was written to favor the Ins. Companies

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

like Lee says we are all monkeys with nuclear weapons. (which you can see on his show redacted tonight - plug plug!!)

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:43 PM

@Carol Its sacrifice. Dress the young men full of testosterone war chemical in costumes, send them to die on auspicious days to die

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:43 PM

to die to die :)

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

I have seen what the Government did with the VA Universal Healthcare, I don't wish that on anyone.

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:43 PM

if it dont make money they dont seem to want to know

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:43 PM★ Spotlighted

When implemented in Massachusetts, Insurance premiums rose 17% in the first year. This is about $$

Carol NeedsajobJun 3, 2014, 11:44 PM

well that is true , the human is evolving and developing I hope...just not fast enough for my liking..

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

so lee you are implying we are immature in the head ....mmm incuriousbly

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

@Eleanor- Agree

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

The only way is to destroy it all and start over Eleanor. Sometimes things are just beyond fixing.

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

Carl, how about we give Vets the same healthcare that Congress gets?

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:45 PM★ Spotlighted

so lee are you doing your shows for free...

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:45 PM

soldiers arent educated with critical thinking, follow immoral orders. thoughts to action, no heart which is the moral compass. hence skull and bones

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:46 PM

heres what we should have been taught in school. www.triviumeducation.com Dont be a sol DIER

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:46 PM

you doing a show on rt now

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:47 PM

@Barry - lee gets paid in marshmallow peeps,whiskey and unlimited disney videos....

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:47 PM

with 50% of our tax $ going to military expenditures its not an issue of money its fcken greed

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:47 PM

well done lad

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:47 PM★ Spotlighted

I have PTSD, it affects my sleep. The VA sent me to a sleep study. It was a tore up roll-a-way cot in a doctors waiting room and they kicked me out at 4AM

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:47 PM

@Carl - OMG!

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:47 PM

wtf Carl? really? :-O

Carol NeedsajobJun 3, 2014, 11:48 PM

seems to play directly into the hands of the war machine the impulsivity of the young, some of the frightening videos posted on youtube of young soldiers entirely enjoying war way too much, seem to corroborate the evidence of undeveloped minds

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:48 PM

lucy that sound a fantastic wage system...i must get a job that will pay in whiskey

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:48 PM★ Spotlighted

Dawn, sadly Congress HAS the same health care as Vets. They just have their own hospitals and doctors.

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:49 PM★ Spotlighted

Yes Eleanor, I do.

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:49 PM★ Spotlighted

and the VA doesn't have enough docs to go around. I think we've found a solution...

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:49 PM

carl i would be pissed if some twat woke me up at 4 am

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:50 PM

humming bird brain + flying chainsaw = merry xmas congress!

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:50 PM

im sure cuba would let us borrow a fe docs just to prove a point

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:51 PM★ Spotlighted

Yes, Lee that was the other thing I was going to say it their Tricare cards can go outside the building. I just paid off a $1200 collects on my credit report, because the VA wouldn't cover me while traveling. I had to go to the ER in CA

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:51 PM★ Spotlighted

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

come live here carl,you'll get what you need

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:52 PM

Yeah, my sister smuggled her brother into a doc's office on leave. $15,000 racked up

Griffin DarklighterJun 3, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

That's one of the biggest problems with the VA... Not enough facilities and doctors, and a mishandled bureaucracy.

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:53 PM★ Spotlighted

@Lee - very true

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:53 PM★ Spotlighted

Eleanor, There is no temp fix. The nurses are lying on the reports. They are putting into the computer there is no wait time for appts so we really have NO IDEA how long this is going on or how deep it goes.

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:54 PM

I read that, too.

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:54 PM★ Spotlighted

Right, they are still doing that after this story has hit the news.

Griffin DarklighterJun 3, 2014, 11:54 PM★ Spotlighted

The fixes are actually easier to say than to implement. Streamline the system. Well, how do we streamline a system that is so hugely backlogged that there are people still waiting for reports from the Korean War?

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

Thank goodness for the VE whistleblower. Suppose he'll have to hide in Russia, now?

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:55 PM

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

same here lee but its starting to follow the american system ...dear america thanks for the movies..music...comedians....but keep your healthcare system

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:56 PM

i dont think i have ever met an american doctor over here. now why dont they want to come and work here? :-/

Carol NeedsajobJun 3, 2014, 11:56 PM★ Spotlighted

@Carl what motivation would the nurses have to lie, not being argumentative just trying to understand the logic of hiding the problems..

phil chipperJun 3, 2014, 11:56 PM

Jesus, how fucking bad does it have to get before amerika pulls its balls out of its purse?

Griffin DarklighterJun 3, 2014, 11:57 PM

But we DID export our healthcare system... Remember those reports of CIA doctors gathering DNA from kids in Iraq and Pipelineastan..?

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:57 PM★ Spotlighted

export democracy on missiles muahahahahahahaha

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:57 PM★ Spotlighted

Media, marketing and war is the only thing that gets exported

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:57 PM

YAY FOR LEE!

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:57 PM★ Spotlighted

Don't even get me started on surgery! I had to go have a 3rd surgery from a "civilian"doctor to clean up a mess that was caused by the mistakes by VA surgeons.Thank God I got on my wifes insurance.

Carol NeedsajobJun 3, 2014, 11:57 PM★ Spotlighted

that makes sense Eleanor, here in Canada that would keep the funding at the same level, if you showed a deficit in services you would get more cash

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:58 PM

the show is dope Ill email you soon to pick up where we left off before the stupid festival

Griffin DarklighterJun 3, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

BTw, Lee... Congrats on the show!! :D

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

To keep their job. They would get written up for putting down REAL dates and times.

Carl DodgeJun 3, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

Yes Lee

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

its a shame these powwow's dont last longer

Dawn AdamsJun 3, 2014, 11:58 PM★ Spotlighted

Small but mighty. Where are you filming?

Carol NeedsajobJun 3, 2014, 11:59 PM★ Spotlighted

@Carl I hope you are well

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:59 PM

PFFFF im supposed to be working

leo martinezJun 3, 2014, 11:59 PM

and my fat fingers can only type as fast as my bloodshot eyes can read

Barry HamillJun 3, 2014, 11:59 PM

sigh...im going to have go back to shouting at random stuff on facebook

Lucy DyerJun 3, 2014, 11:59 PM

thanks for this tawk Lee and Eleanor. most informative.

Griffin DarklighterJun 3, 2014, 11:59 PM★ Spotlighted

I do believe the framework and room will maintain as long as people are chatting, even after the hosts have left.

Carol NeedsajobJun 4, 2014, 12:00 AM

I have to go, I have this hot new show to watch...

Dawn AdamsJun 4, 2014, 12:00 AM★ Spotlighted

Cool. watched last week. Maybe we'll get down there to add to the laughing audience. Take care!

leo martinezJun 4, 2014, 12:00 AM

id love too but gotta get back to work next week ill spend more time on here

leo martinezJun 4, 2014, 12:00 AM

thank you all

Tony CarrJun 4, 2014, 12:03 AM

I missed this week

Tony CarrJun 4, 2014, 12:03 AM

but not next week

Griffin DarklighterJun 4, 2014, 12:05 AM

Peace and BB, Folks!

Tenzin TharchenJun 4, 2014, 12:17 AM

Ohh did i miss it?