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The Venus Project

Mar 25, 2014

KM
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Mar 25, 2014

Beyond politics, poverty and war. nwww.thevenusproject.com

KM

kelly mackin · 1:00 AM

ok its bugging a bit
KM

kelly mackin · 1:00 AM

i just hit refresh
KM

kelly mackin · 1:00 AM

hello everyone
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:00 AM

ah, that's better. Hello everyone! Thanks for coming
KM

kelly mackin · 1:00 AM

how many people here know about the venus project
KM

kelly mackin · 1:01 AM

hello robin
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:01 AM

I'd like to start by saying that we don't officially represent TVP, but are advocates of it.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:02 AM

well the slogan is beyond politics poverty and war. so knowing that, if you can ask any question of how?
KM

kelly mackin · 1:02 AM

hello mike
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:02 AM

I would quickly describe it as an alternative social system that takes care of the people and our environment. It promotes equality.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:02 AM

It does not use currencies.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:02 AM

it uses a Resource Based Economy
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:02 AM

or RBE
KM

kelly mackin · 1:03 AM

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sounds great

KM

kelly mackin · 1:03 AM

It is a way to be civilized.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:03 AM

resource based economy
KM

kelly mackin · 1:03 AM

ask a question about it
KM

kelly mackin · 1:03 AM

ok how can you get rid of war
KM

kelly mackin · 1:03 AM

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i don't know precisely what that means. RBE

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:03 AM

Jacques Fresco is it's founder. Along with his partner Roxanne Meadows, they've been promoting and developing it.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:04 AM

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how is it different from the fiasco we have now?

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:04 AM

imagine... no war, no police or soldiers, no government as we'd call it today. No hostility and no inequality.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:04 AM

no borders.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:04 AM

well, if we are all one world, without borders, in the state of abundance, no need to steal, no government MAYBE no laws.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:05 AM

we can today create abundance, despite what the majority has been told.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:05 AM

we have access to all knowledge, like we someone do today with the internet.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:05 AM

somewhat
KM

kelly mackin · 1:05 AM

heheheh
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:06 AM

oh, human nature...
KM

kelly mackin · 1:06 AM

And that right there sir
KM

kelly mackin · 1:06 AM

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Ah but human nature... someone will always want more than the next person.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:06 AM

human nature is only it's ability to adapt to it's environment.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:07 AM

its environment, so we need to have a different environment so we do not steal if there is no need right
KM

kelly mackin · 1:07 AM

can you difine human nature for me?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:07 AM

modern psychology is discovering how much we are shaped by our environment
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:07 AM

so much so, it has epigenetic effects, meaning our environment switches on and off our genes
KM

kelly mackin · 1:07 AM

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so computers are a part of that paradigm

KM

kelly mackin · 1:08 AM

yes instead of politicains saying we need more water over here, and it takes ten years to do. a computer is watching the water and water usage, giving an alert to say you need more water.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:09 AM

we have many automated systems now, and there are more developing...
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:09 AM

we need to accelerate that process. it is currently held back by warmongers and profiteers
KM

kelly mackin · 1:09 AM

imagine where we don't have to work or at least A LOT less.
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Wayne Delorme · 1:09 AM

what we need to realize is that posessions are not important
KM

kelly mackin · 1:09 AM

thats why we need to get rid of money and barter systems
KM

kelly mackin · 1:10 AM

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A few always want to beat the system. They want more material things of more power.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:10 AM

here's a good argument that is commonly made... if everything is free, then I want the biggest yaght!
KM

kelly mackin · 1:10 AM

IF you can just go PRINT whatever you want. why do you need to steal somsone elses?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:10 AM

well, that big boat is nice.. but it's a pain to take care of... and there's a new model out next year
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:10 AM

what we really want is access to the yacht
KM

kelly mackin · 1:10 AM

you make alot of yours right robin?
KM

kelly mackin · 1:10 AM

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i like some of my possessions. = D

KM

kelly mackin · 1:11 AM

dont you like that?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:11 AM

and sentimental things are fine...
KM

kelly mackin · 1:11 AM

imagine just being able to make everything you have
KM

kelly mackin · 1:11 AM

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yes, i do kelly

KM

kelly mackin · 1:11 AM

and computers build it for you.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:11 AM

but having a sentimental jumbo jet is a bit extravagant
KM

kelly mackin · 1:11 AM

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That would be a difficult one to work out, but it would be great if we could.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:12 AM

in fact, we can do without planes.... trains are the way to go unless we get anti-gravity going
KM

kelly mackin · 1:12 AM

its no ownership cuz everythiing you need is available to everyone just not everyone needs it all the time right?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:12 AM

excellent Robin! I like that.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:12 AM

does each person need a camera?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:12 AM

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i don't want my sentimental items made by a machine.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:13 AM

Sentimental things would be perhaps a geode that you found on a hike
KM

kelly mackin · 1:13 AM

most cameras most people only use 30 hours out of the year maybe, dont quote me on that just the idea right?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:13 AM

imagine a public library for all things that you don't use every day
KM

kelly mackin · 1:13 AM

i would say that is personal
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:13 AM

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so we are to share most stuff, kelly?

KM

kelly mackin · 1:13 AM

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yes, or a relic my grandmother used to have.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:13 AM

so, you want to biking today or play a guitar, you can go get one at the "library" or supply center
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:14 AM

and it would be the best that we can make up to today
KM

kelly mackin · 1:14 AM

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yes very personal

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:14 AM

and they are regular recycled and improved as the technology progresses
KM

kelly mackin · 1:14 AM

education would be coming from an active and constructive process, cuz we would just be doing what we want to do.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:15 AM

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i like that, wayne

KM

kelly mackin · 1:15 AM

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That would be nice.

KM

kelly mackin · 1:15 AM

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a city near me has bikes on the streets for people to use and then leave for the next person.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:15 AM

education would be so different. first of all, it would be enjoyable...
KM

kelly mackin · 1:15 AM

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and i LOVE that, kelly

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:15 AM

actually experiencing nature and technology are the best way to learn
KM

kelly mackin · 1:16 AM

here is a link about the venus project. resource based economy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzirIG55fkE
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:16 AM

so there are a number of problems with our current system, and most other currency based systems...
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:16 AM

the lack of equality is the biggest one.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:17 AM

here is a technology, that i happen to have a small scale 3d printer myself, but this is big scale. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XSMGpvaIDc
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:17 AM

it breeds corruption. some may argue that proper oversight will solve it, but only for a short time in my opinion.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:18 AM

we have the tech to reshape the culture into one that is symbiotic with nature. what he need is the conscious will on the whole to decide to do it
KM

kelly mackin · 1:19 AM

This is jaque fresco on larry king in 1974, It really says something about the environment we are in right now as to such good ideas not being looked at.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:19 AM

there is no profit in cleaning up the environment, and we are seeing the consequences worsen quickly
KM

kelly mackin · 1:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBIdk-fgCeQ
KM

kelly mackin · 1:20 AM

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i agree wayne

KM

kelly mackin · 1:20 AM

LOL that might have been for another comment
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:20 AM

yeah, Kelly's slow today, don't mind him ;)
KM

kelly mackin · 1:20 AM

sorry just typing and posting slowly
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:21 AM

we're laughing it up on skype too btw =D
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:21 AM

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= D 'saright kelly.

KM

kelly mackin · 1:21 AM

here is a little tour video and some good ideas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swlcx4siSYk
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:22 AM

so Jacque has been all doing lectures at universities, etc. I've watched every lecture I could get my hands on
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:22 AM

and a lot of Peter Joseph's work as well
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:22 AM

they both advocate an RBE
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:23 AM

so the next thing we need to happen is a massive loss of confidence in the gov't
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:23 AM

lol Robin!
KM

kelly mackin · 1:23 AM

ok for those who seek history of a person this video give an idea of who jaque fresco is.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_cEaSaLk4
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:23 AM

actually, that's exactly what we have right now!
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:23 AM

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that sounds like plundering the resources.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:24 AM

with no ecological concern at all. the most important thing right now is the circulation of currency.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:24 AM

yes because we make things to break, called planned obsolescence.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:24 AM

and the more it circulates, the more gets funnelled to the top
KM

kelly mackin · 1:24 AM

so we need more and more, house last 40 maybe 80 years
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:25 AM

what we should be doing is recycling everything, but we don't. landfills are piling up with rare metals in wasted electronics
KM

kelly mackin · 1:25 AM

poisoning the soil and sometimes water.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:25 AM

there's no profit in digging the heap for these resources, so it won't get done.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:26 AM

norway is so good they started asking for the other countrys trash.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:26 AM

ever heard of the pacific garbage patch?
KM

kelly mackin · 1:26 AM

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they are very good at recycling in japan

KM

kelly mackin · 1:26 AM

OH YA
KM

kelly mackin · 1:26 AM

horrid
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:26 AM

let's see them figure out how to profit and clean that up. not gonna happen.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:27 AM

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yes

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:27 AM

it would have to have huge subsidies... but from who? it's international waters....
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:27 AM

and now it's not just plastic and wood... it's radiation that's floating around out there too
KM

kelly mackin · 1:27 AM

to get rid of war.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:28 AM

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well, we could spend less on war.. maybe pick up some trash.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:28 AM

300,000 tons of radioactive water spews out of Fukishima every day.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:28 AM

why is war caused? money? control?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:29 AM

this is the sort of shit that is going on for too long. if we don't start taking care of this environment we live in, we'll wipe most life off the planet.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:29 AM

over land that people want to own and send others to die for, they call it freedom but, thats not what freedom is.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:29 AM

it's very scary. can't even buy fish at the store anymore.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:29 AM

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i had to take a break from fukushima info. just too frightening.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:29 AM

all comes from China
KM

kelly mackin · 1:30 AM

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absolutely

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:30 AM

imagine a society that got it's kicks from figuring out how to solve these problems....
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:31 AM

where treating children properly and educating them makes your life better
KM

kelly mackin · 1:31 AM

the venus project offers an alternative to what we have now, that I think, would meet its goals of ending poverty, politics and war.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:31 AM

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its hard to tell now, if the info i read is new or just what the media and others have finally learned.

KM

kelly mackin · 1:31 AM

That is why we need truth. science offers the best we have for that.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:32 AM

corporate media... i can't stand it unless I'm watching one of my favorite people tear them to shreds.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:32 AM

I like watching Breaking the Set with Abbey Marting and The Young Turks with Cenk Uygur
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:32 AM

they know how to tear 'em apart. lol!
KM

kelly mackin · 1:32 AM

but if you look at a politician, and ask them scientific questions, they can answer those.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:32 AM

can't
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:32 AM

I think he means
KM

kelly mackin · 1:33 AM

LOL YA
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:33 AM

yeah, they have no answers for technical problems... why do we trust these people to take care of us?
KM

kelly mackin · 1:33 AM

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its a great idea, kelly. now if we can just get everybody onboard with it

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:33 AM

would you take a show maker and tell him to pilot your private jet?
KM

kelly mackin · 1:34 AM

It all about having knowledge of the idea and sharing, if the ideas sound good to you.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:34 AM

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i emphatically do not trust them, at all.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:34 AM

sorry Robin, no jets to hand out today lol
KM

kelly mackin · 1:34 AM

lol
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:34 AM

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do i have a private jet? = D

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:35 AM

one of the common misconceptions about TVP is that people think it's communism.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:35 AM

well, it has some ideals that are LIKE communism... but without.. you know... gulags and tyrants. =D
KM

kelly mackin · 1:35 AM

People who think like engineers, people helping build humanity up, that is the kind of environment we need.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:36 AM

it has no people with more power over others, no police or military, no bankers, no currency.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:36 AM

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well, i'm sold on it. when do i get to move in?

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:36 AM

i talk about it every day, and wish it happened 50 years ago when it should have... our biggest obstacle is awareness.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:37 AM

we're kept in the dark about most things that would advance our civilization.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:37 AM

me too Robin. there are many species that have suffered extinction already due to our carelessness
KM

kelly mackin · 1:37 AM

This has been an idea in the air since 74, we just need to get it to more people but that's hard today to get people to listen
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:38 AM

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i hope its not too late

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:38 AM

in the air, he means Jacque was on Larry King Live in '74... and it didn't take.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:38 AM

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ready to bail on this banana boat

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:38 AM

people were too distracted and controlled like they are today. but the people are getting more and more restless
KM

kelly mackin · 1:38 AM

I just would like to be making things that help people.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:38 AM

and we're communicating far better than back then too, people are connecting over the web
KM

kelly mackin · 1:39 AM

jaque says we talk at each other and not to each other.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:39 AM

Kelly and I like to tinker with things, we do a lot of YouTube research
KM

kelly mackin · 1:39 AM

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yes, the web is soooo fabulous.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:40 AM

HHO generators for instance. We've built one, I'm building another one this summer
KM

kelly mackin · 1:40 AM

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now we can see more of whats going on in the world

KM

kelly mackin · 1:40 AM

We need less miss information as well.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:40 AM

we... we need a truth-o-meter. anybody have one? =)
KM

kelly mackin · 1:40 AM

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way cool, wayne

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:41 AM

i think that's over my head. I'll pass that along to Kelly... he's more about the conciousness than me =D
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:41 AM

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i wish. you guys should work on that

KM

kelly mackin · 1:41 AM

I have not been to venus florida, where jaque lives, get more information then what i have so far.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:42 AM

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haha he is definitely there.

KM

kelly mackin · 1:42 AM

HEHEEHEH thuth o meter, ya best way I could say it is, question everything, and make your own conclusions.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:42 AM

one way the current system is killing itself is that profit is driving the corporations to automate more and more of their production processes....
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:43 AM

which is putting more and more people out of work...
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:43 AM

reducing the amount of people with purchasing power to buy their product
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:43 AM

exactly.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:43 AM

YA, I can help as well by growing my own food, getting free energy.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:44 AM

because if there's no money, and everything is provided for free and in abundance....
KM

kelly mackin · 1:44 AM

hehehehe cuz no need for jobs
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:44 AM

then why wouldn't we automate more?
KM

kelly mackin · 1:44 AM

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and yet, you are advocating more automationi to make work unnecesseary.

KM

kelly mackin · 1:44 AM

is the currents systems flaw
KM

kelly mackin · 1:44 AM

not the venus projects
KM

kelly mackin · 1:44 AM

thats why we advocate for and this system is against
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:45 AM

another thing many people like to say against TVP is that there will be no incentive if there's no money
KM

kelly mackin · 1:45 AM

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certainly

KM

kelly mackin · 1:45 AM

could you sit there and not do something robin?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:45 AM

I can tell you from experience that after a couple of months of doing nothing and sitting on your ass, you are going to get up and do something...
KM

kelly mackin · 1:45 AM

what would you do?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:45 AM

especially if it's getting up and doing something awesome!
KM

kelly mackin · 1:45 AM

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no way

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:46 AM

i would love to go explore wilderness, in the oceans
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:46 AM

the deepest regions, and the most dense forests
KM

kelly mackin · 1:46 AM

I dont think anyone could do nothing, incentive is will or desire.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:47 AM

As i am, and i think most people are.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:47 AM

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me? hope to improve the quality of life factor for others.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:47 AM

I agree Robin, but if profit and money weren't an issue, we could clean it up
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:47 AM

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might be a bit depressing now, under the sead.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:47 AM

and furthermore, probably enhance the sea life
KM

kelly mackin · 1:47 AM

our behavior is based upon the environment.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:47 AM

Jacque believes we can do away with the Red Tide
KM

kelly mackin · 1:48 AM

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any ideas on nutralizing radiation?

KM

kelly mackin · 1:48 AM

I was trying to think on that myself, a very thin lead net?
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:48 AM

I don't know about that one in particular. It's something I've thought about but have not heard much on
KM

kelly mackin · 1:48 AM

might be able to even push air through. maybe even get some power from it :)
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:49 AM

Jacques might have a way.... he's shown many innovative techniques at cleaning things up, but I haven't heard him speak on radiation in particular
KM

kelly mackin · 1:49 AM

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thin lead net probablynot very effective

KM

kelly mackin · 1:49 AM

you may be right but you go ask anyone else that, i think they have givin up.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:50 AM

politician is not going to be able to
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Wayne Delorme · 1:50 AM

I also have to wonder what they've got in black projects as well... though radiation cleanup isn't usually their forte. usually destructive tech is their thing. though i'm curious what they're hiding in regards to energy and propulsion.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:50 AM

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we can't just roll over and die!

KM

kelly mackin · 1:50 AM

exactly, that's why we need to research the right ideas.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:51 AM

at some point, what's left of people will decide to change things.... we need to help that process along and get it done ASAP!!
KM

kelly mackin · 1:52 AM

but that would be an assumption of knowing the future, there probably is a way, we need to get scientist and engineers and anyone else willing to to look at that issue.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:52 AM

whenever you see a problem, just think... there is no profit in solving a problem that is currently being serviced, including medical problems. You'll soon come to learn why I hate the monetary system.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:53 AM

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i really don't think much of anything matters, if we cannot first solve that nuclear problem

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:53 AM

I have a number of health problems that are currently being serviced....
KM

kelly mackin · 1:54 AM

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serious moral flaws in this capitalist system.

KM

kelly mackin · 1:54 AM

And history will repeat itself until we grow out of it. so the change really has to come from us as well. many of us feed that machine.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:54 AM

It would take a shift into something like TVP for them to help me.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:54 AM

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i hope they are able to help you wayne

KM

kelly mackin · 1:55 AM

what would happen if everyone in the military just stopped going to work?
KM

kelly mackin · 1:55 AM

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kelly, that would probably have a good effect.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:56 AM

imagine if all the people that had to do with force, and all the people that had to do with money, were suddenly out of work! then you re-purpose all of them into necessary services like food, healthcare, housing, etc.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:56 AM

Or we just didn't buy a product that was made to break, something made to last, using the best of our knowledge upto now to create something
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:56 AM

suddenly, people are working only half the week because there's more people to do that work
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:57 AM

and then we're automating as much as possible, as fast as possible
KM

kelly mackin · 1:57 AM

heheheh robin
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:57 AM

and our work week shrinks even more
KM

kelly mackin · 1:57 AM

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if they didn't all get executed

KM

kelly mackin · 1:58 AM

well so many people non violent protest, its the police sometimes starting the violence.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:58 AM

realistically, this cannot happen overnight. a transitional period must take place. Many believe we are in that transition now.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:58 AM

I think, i see a change in the world right now, I am going to help it along.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:59 AM

with 3D printing tech improving rapidly, it wont' take long before we can just print what we need on the spot
KM

kelly mackin · 1:59 AM

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presumably, people would be willing and able to create materials for fabrication within automated systems. i guess thats automated. too

WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:59 AM

and when you tihnk about that, we'd better get a mental shift going...
WD

Wayne Delorme · 1:59 AM

because otherwise people will be printing weapons whether they're legal or not.
KM

kelly mackin · 1:59 AM

3d printing is a very crazy technology for creating, offers full customization.
KM

kelly mackin · 2:00 AM

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yes, that mental shift is all important

WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:00 AM

well, it's 8pm, though we might have a few more minutes...
KM

kelly mackin · 2:00 AM

this is a short video for showing a possible way for that rovbin
KM

kelly mackin · 2:00 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XSMGpvaIDc
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:00 AM

anyone have questions about TVP? we have a lot of knowledge about it through many hours of video watching!
KM

kelly mackin · 2:01 AM

yes
KM

kelly mackin · 2:01 AM

I need to get some food, long drive home and did not have time to eat yet LOL.
KM

kelly mackin · 2:02 AM

I gave some good links to short videos\
KM

kelly mackin · 2:02 AM

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wayne i sort of "assume" tvp is a good thing. i don't know enough to ask any coherent questions.

KM

kelly mackin · 2:02 AM

only the larry king one is 44 minutes long
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:02 AM

I suggest checking out their videos through their website or on youtube. Paradise or Oblivion is a good one
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:03 AM

they have a number of documentaries made, that's their most recent
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:03 AM

they're working on another film now
KM

kelly mackin · 2:03 AM

hehehehehe
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:03 AM

and the '74 interview with King is great too
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:04 AM

every new tech that improves life is new info for TVP
KM

kelly mackin · 2:04 AM

here is the lateest
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:04 AM

and they promote it in their newletters, etc
KM

kelly mackin · 2:04 AM

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do they really keep having new info to put out?

WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:04 AM

one of the best interviews he's has was with Charlie Veitch, it's called "This shit's got to go!", it's on youtube
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:05 AM

he as in Jacque Fresco
KM

kelly mackin · 2:05 AM

its from march 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L35L07fkUk
KM

kelly mackin · 2:05 AM

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my sentiments, exactly

KM

kelly mackin · 2:06 AM

ok i need to go eat, my stomache is grumblin
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:06 AM

most of our problems today are due to inequality. Take away money and you take away the very basis of most crime.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:06 AM

alright, great talk people! glad you could make it.
KM

kelly mackin · 2:06 AM

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ok. thanks for the twk guys.

WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:07 AM

Special thanks to Robin for continued conversation! Our star Tawker!
KM

kelly mackin · 2:07 AM

ok thanks all we shall do this again sometime.
WD

Wayne Delorme · 2:07 AM

good night
KM

kelly mackin · 2:07 AM

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