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This Week In The NFL With Jack & JD

Aug 14, 2014

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Aug 14, 2014

Join us for our weekly tawk about all things NFL, with a special focus on the debut of Johnny Football, a quick look at the upcoming preseason games, and of course no end of grief about the Dallas Cowboys.

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Jack Terry · 3:00 PM

Hello and welcome to "This Week In The NFL With Jack & JD" How are ya, JD?
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:01 PM

having difficulty again
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Jack Terry · 3:01 PM

Aw crap...
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:04 PM

testing...
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Jack Terry · 3:04 PM

HELLO!!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:05 PM

Not sure what's up...I'll deal...Hey Jack!!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:05 PM

Okay...good to go
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Jack Terry · 3:05 PM

I think you need to feed the hamster running the wheel inside your computer some Wheaties!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:05 PM

I'm telling ya!!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:05 PM

So...how bout that first week of NFL preseason???
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Jack Terry · 3:05 PM

Welcome back to This Week In The NFL! Let's jump right in with the number one topic of conversation, Johnny Manziel.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:06 PM

I was impressed by the young man's preformance as were his coaches...got the start this coming Monday against Washington
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Jack Terry · 3:07 PM

I did not know that! That's gotta make for an uncomfortable week of practice!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:07 PM

Well, they want Johnny Football to get game speed reps w/the first team offense.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:08 PM

They actually cut Thigpen after his performance...
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Jack Terry · 3:08 PM

That's the only way they'll know if he's got the chops. He was their leading rusher in their first game.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:08 PM

And leading passer...7 for 11 and if the receivers who were playing with him could catch the ball he would have been 9 for 11...not bad for rookie
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Jack Terry · 3:09 PM

No picks, no fumbles. Keep in mind though that the Rams were already resting some of their starters by the time he came in. It'll be a different story against Washington.
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Jack Terry · 3:09 PM

So they're only going with two QB's? pretty risky.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:10 PM

Detroit not the rams...and Detroit has one of the top ranked defenses because of their depth
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:11 PM

No they brought up another QB from the practice squad...can't remember his name right off hand
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Jack Terry · 3:11 PM

Why was I thinking the Rams? And that's my second mistake. It seems the Browns have 12 year vet Rex Grossman on their team.
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Jack Terry · 3:12 PM

And Connor Shaw, rookie out of South Carolina.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:12 PM

that's the one...he was primarily used in camp for defense training and they put him on the active list and dumped Thigpen
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Jack Terry · 3:13 PM

Thigpin can't catch a break (not that he necessarily deserves one.) He seems to be with a different team every year.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:13 PM

Here's a funny for you...since Lebron James is becoming so involved with the Browns, they are changing their name to LeBrowns
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:13 PM

haha....not true but funny....
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:14 PM

Thigpen was w/KC for a few years backing up Matt Cassell
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Jack Terry · 3:14 PM

They'd sell a boat load more jerseys that way!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:14 PM

So true! What team did you feel had the best overall performance last week?
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Jack Terry · 3:15 PM

Vikings, Chiefs, Dolphins, Bills, Browns. Not bad for a kid from NCAA Football powerhouse Coastal Carolina.
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Jack Terry · 3:16 PM

It's hard to say, with so many players involved that won't make the roster. The Chiefs Bengals game looked good, both teams seem to have a lot of depth.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:16 PM

I thought KC did very well too...I didn't get to watch live but caught a replay of it on NFL network...defense is something to behold!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:17 PM

I think the Bengals, even with their high priced QB have a ways to go offensively...too many drops in that game
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Jack Terry · 3:17 PM

I'm not just kissing up to you; I think they're gonna be a fun team to watch this year.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:17 PM

Too many interceptions too but I didn't mind those so much!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:17 PM

I agree with you on that Jack. Even if I weren't the biggest Chiefs fan on the planet, I would think they stood a good chance of playoffs this season
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Jack Terry · 3:17 PM

If the Bengals can teach Matt Scott to stop vomiting when he's playing they might do ok!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:18 PM

I love seeing stuff like that on the field...ewww, Tackle him right around ....here...gross
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:19 PM

Did you find the Broncos Seahawks game a joke like I did?
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:19 PM

A comedy of errors I should say
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Jack Terry · 3:19 PM

Apparently it can be a symptom of a concussion. Happened to him twic in college and after one of the games it was announced he had suffered a concussion.
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Jack Terry · 3:19 PM

I expected it to be. Those are two teams with really nothing to prove this off season except to see how their third stringers and beyond play.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:19 PM

Speaking of concussions, how do you feel about the new rules about receivers and secondary?
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Jack Terry · 3:20 PM

I'm kind of torn on the rules. I think it takes a lot of action away from the game, but with the bigger players, faster plays and harder hits, it might be necessary.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:20 PM

The rules are going to make the game into a running game if they're not careful.
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Jack Terry · 3:21 PM

Very much so. The rule I don't like is from a few years ago when the moved the kick-off up. Way too many touchbacks.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:22 PM

That one kills me too...players run for 9 yards before they even get on the field!
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Jack Terry · 3:23 PM

One idea that's been floating around is instead of a kickoff, the "kicking team" gets the ball on their 35 with a 4th and 15 I believe. So they can try to convert or punt it away.
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Jack Terry · 3:23 PM

I do like the longer extra point though.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:24 PM

Totally! I was completely for the longer extra point when I heard about it last year...chip shots...now the kickers are kicking more of a field goal that easy extra point
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Jack Terry · 3:25 PM

Yeah, without that change, just make the touchdown worth 7 and be done with it.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:25 PM

I agree.
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Jack Terry · 3:25 PM

Of course, I'd love to see more teams go for 2 anyway.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:25 PM

I just hope that the evolution of the game doesn't get too out of control and take the fun out of it. This is modern day gladiators...can't take the lions away...it's no fun!
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Jack Terry · 3:26 PM

It isn't. And I agree with the players who say that they know what their getting into when they sign up to play.
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Jack Terry · 3:26 PM

They could have played baseball instead.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:27 PM

I completely agree with the "unprotected receiver" rule...and not leading with the helmet...but come on, let the boys play.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:27 PM

Football is America's game and we love the brutality of it...
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Jack Terry · 3:27 PM

What blows my mind is the whole "don't lead with your head rule" has been around a couple of seasons and yet you still see people blatantly doing it. That's just stupid on their part.
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Jack Terry · 3:28 PM

They're going to make the tackle regardless. Why add 15 years to the play?
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:28 PM

Maybe they are stupid...I mean come on they are football players! lol
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:28 PM

that's a long play, Jack...
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Jack Terry · 3:29 PM

Good point! That's a very long play! The only long penalty that ever makes sense to me in pass Interference when you know you'd be beat for 6 points otherwise.
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Jack Terry · 3:29 PM

I know their passion is up and they caught up in the moment, but late hits/ unnecessary roughness calls are just boneheaded.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:29 PM

Speaking of pass interference, we will see much more offensive PI calls this season because of the new rules
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:30 PM

There were several in the preseason games I watched last weekend
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Jack Terry · 3:30 PM

I think that's good. Too many WRs get away with inside push offs and then sell it as defensive. It's the football equivalent of flopping.
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Jack Terry · 3:31 PM

Maybe that's what the NFL should do. You commit a persoanl foul, your team has to play the next down with only 10 players.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:31 PM

like hockey and soccer?
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Jack Terry · 3:31 PM

Exactly! It'll keep players way more in check.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:32 PM

I say if a player gets called too many times for personal fouls, he should be fined. But how do you determine what the fine should be?
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Jack Terry · 3:32 PM

No more stomping on somebodies head, cheap cut blocks and late hits.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:32 PM

Reach into their wallets every time and they will quite committing those fouls
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:32 PM

Suh,huh?
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Jack Terry · 3:32 PM

percentage of salary. A flat fee will hurt some unknown players a lot more than it would a star.
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Jack Terry · 3:33 PM

Are you saying Suh is a dirty player/ What are you going to tell me next? That the sky is blue?
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:33 PM

Good idea...that would curtail bounties also
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:33 PM

ah, but what shade of blue?
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Jack Terry · 3:33 PM

Speaking of dirty players, did you hear about the pratice that the Cowboys and Raiders had together?
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:33 PM

sky blue...I know. lol
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Jack Terry · 3:33 PM

Hey that's funny!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:33 PM

No.,..pray tell...
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Jack Terry · 3:34 PM

Two different bench clearing brawls!
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Jack Terry · 3:34 PM

The first happened in front of raider fans, and one guy hit a Dallas player with a souvenir helmet!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:34 PM

Awesome!!! they should show that on television so we can see the real back stage of the NFL!!
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Jack Terry · 3:34 PM

Both those teams are a joke!
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Jack Terry · 3:35 PM

I was actually thinking about this last night. It seems every team that has silver as part of their color scheme is pretty pathetic.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:35 PM

Wow...Raiders fans are a bit rowdy...for a long time they had the only stadium in the league with a drunk tank for
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Jack Terry · 3:35 PM

Cowboys, Raiders, Lions, who went 0-16 just a few years ago. Anyone else?
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:36 PM

I can only see red...lol
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Jack Terry · 3:36 PM

I wonder if the black hole will move to San Antonio...
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:36 PM

Good question...
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Jack Terry · 3:36 PM

Stop drinking the Kansas City Kool Aid!!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:36 PM

NEVER!!!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:36 PM

Okay, so how about this week? Jags and Bears tonight
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Jack Terry · 3:37 PM

Ha! Times running out so let's look to this week. Any games standing out to you?
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:37 PM

I'm looking to enjoy the Patriots Eagles game...
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Jack Terry · 3:37 PM

Read my mind! I think Browns/Washington and the battle of Heisman winners.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:38 PM

You are correct...difference being Manziel isn't scared out of his mind and RG3 is.
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Jack Terry · 3:38 PM

Patriots/Eagles should be good. Also Giants/Colts, see how well the G-Men are learning their new offense.
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Jack Terry · 3:38 PM

He will be if he takes a shot to the knee like RGIII did.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:38 PM

First Monday night game of the 2014 NFL season and it's the Browns...who would have thunk it?
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Jack Terry · 3:38 PM

LeBron.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:38 PM

True true
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:38 PM

It's LeBrown
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Jack Terry · 3:39 PM

Ha!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:39 PM

Chiefs Panthers should be a good one too...
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:39 PM

I haven't heard if Cam Newton is playing, have you?
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Jack Terry · 3:39 PM

I'm not even gonna bother with the 'Boys. Orlando Scandrick is out for the first 4 games of the season.
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Jack Terry · 3:40 PM

I don't think Newton is. I think they're holding him out.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:40 PM

Smart...KC likes to knock QB's around.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:40 PM

Even in preseason
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Jack Terry · 3:40 PM

I lied. Latest I heard is they plan to start him, test out that ankle.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:41 PM

I like the Bronco 49ers too....should be a fun one
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Jack Terry · 3:41 PM

yeah, for the first quarter! They're another couple of teams with nothing to prove right now.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:41 PM

the snoozer of the week: Vikings Cardinals....snore!!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:42 PM

Have you got your fantasy picks for the draft?
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Jack Terry · 3:42 PM

I know right? Talk about a preseason "Who Cares?" bowl!
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Jack Terry · 3:42 PM

Yeah. I keep fantasizing that Jerry Jones is gonna die and Tony Romo is going to learn how to play!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:42 PM

and Dolphins Buccaneers is another who cares.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:43 PM

lol...no sense in dreaming small, huh?
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Jack Terry · 3:43 PM

Play big or stay home!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:43 PM

right on brother!
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Jack Terry · 3:43 PM

FF is too hard this early in preseason, too many uncertainties with who's gonna get how much time.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:44 PM

Well, who is your stand out for this week? I'm going with a tremendous performance from Johnny Football...Manziel is hungry to be a star
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:44 PM

Once he learns to share, he's going to be a great football player...the great white hope for Cleveland
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Jack Terry · 3:45 PM

I'm gonna go with Geno Smith.
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Jack Terry · 3:45 PM

I know it's a sleeper pick, but he needs to put up or shut up in New Jers...I mean New York right now.
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:45 PM

I'll keep an eye on him. I"ve been watching him since his Big 12 days...got the licks
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Jack Terry · 3:46 PM

All right JD, as always it's been fun, but I got a beach calling my name! I'll tawk to you right here next week!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:46 PM

Okay first, you suck and second, I'll see you next week...same bat time, same bat channel!
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Jack Terry · 3:47 PM

bat channel? Man, you are old!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:47 PM

And you're fired. lol
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Jack Terry · 3:47 PM

HA!
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Jennifer "JD" Arbuckle · 3:47 PM

Tawk to you soon!