Josh Evans

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Trump V Clinton 🇺🇸

Aug 4, 2016·315 visitors

Stephen Cross

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Aug 4, 2016

Josh Evans · 12:01 PM

OK - Let's do this. I am ready to debate my side. Are you?

Stephen Cross · 12:07 PM

Ready and eager. 👍

Stephen Cross · 12:09 PM

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Josh Evans · 12:09 PM

Hahah ok. So let's start there. Why are you with her?

Stephen Cross · 12:12 PM

For starters, she has a wealth of knowledge and hands on experience in foreign policy as well as domestic issues, and I find that to be crucial in a president.

Stephen Cross · 12:12 PM

Why are you with him?

Josh Evans · 12:13 PM

He is an outsider, calling bullshit on the system, and has the business acumen to oversee large entities and make big changes.

Stephen Cross · 12:14 PM

But wasn't Bernie also calling bullshit on the system?

Josh Evans · 12:14 PM

Yes but. 1. I am a republican 2. Bernie has little ability to make change happen.

Stephen Cross · 12:15 PM

OK let's get back to #1, but why do you feel a businessman with zero experience in government (not politics but GOVERNMENT) would be able to make change happen in a government system?

Stephen Cross · 12:15 PM

How do the skills translate from running a casino or real estate brand to running a country and military?

Josh Evans · 12:16 PM

Leadership skills are Universal.

Stephen Cross · 12:17 PM

Are they though? Would you put an army general in charge of an accounting firm or better yet, a creative marketing agency?

Josh Evans · 12:17 PM

It depends on the person.

Stephen Cross · 12:18 PM

Ok, so let's look at that in this case. The person Donald Trump is. Is a person you would be friends with (minus the career opportunity and financial potential)

Josh Evans · 12:18 PM

Haha well why are we discounting those facotrs?

Stephen Cross · 12:19 PM

Because they are irrelevant, or should be, by Donald's own platform, in governing a people.

Josh Evans · 12:19 PM

Ok fine. So what am I judging this man on exactly?

Stephen Cross · 12:19 PM

Well for starters, how about personality traits. Do you find him to be a compassionate man? Do you find him to be a fair man?

Josh Evans · 12:20 PM

I don't know him personally

Stephen Cross · 12:20 PM

Right, but you have seen him on every form of media, every day for the past year, so make an assessment.

Josh Evans · 12:20 PM

Do I find him to be compassionate and fair?

Stephen Cross · 12:20 PM

right. that is the question...

Josh Evans · 12:21 PM

I don't know if compassion is what we need right now.

Stephen Cross · 12:21 PM

Isn't compassion always a necessary ingredient for a leader?

Josh Evans · 12:21 PM

I don't know if that's true.

Stephen Cross · 12:21 PM

When is compassion not important?

Josh Evans · 12:21 PM

In times of crisis

Stephen Cross · 12:22 PM

Why?

Josh Evans · 12:22 PM

Why what?

Stephen Cross · 12:23 PM

Why do you feel compassionate becomes dispensable in times of crisis?

Josh Evans · 12:23 PM

I guess because tough decisions need to be made, and there is no time for being nice.

Stephen Cross · 12:24 PM

I would argue that compassion goes deeper than "being nice"

Stephen Cross · 12:24 PM

in general it is a concern for others.

Stephen Cross · 12:24 PM

Are you a compassionate man?

Josh Evans · 12:24 PM

Yes, I believe I am.

Stephen Cross · 12:25 PM

From what you have seen... Is Donald Trump?

Josh Evans · 12:25 PM

No, I can't honestly say I believe he is.

Stephen Cross · 12:25 PM

Ok let's put a pin in that.

Josh Evans · 12:25 PM

Can we switch to "HER" for a moment?

Stephen Cross · 12:26 PM

Sure!

Josh Evans · 12:26 PM

Do you believe honesty is an important quality in a leader?

Stephen Cross · 12:26 PM

Yes I do.

Josh Evans · 12:26 PM

Is Hilary Clinton an honest person?

Stephen Cross · 12:27 PM

I believe all people struggle to be 100% honest, but I do believe she has principles, a moral structure and compass.

Josh Evans · 12:28 PM

But she has lied right?

Stephen Cross · 12:29 PM

Yes, I don't believe she is a perfect person. However, I don't find her flaws to make her less of a fit, effective leader.

Josh Evans · 12:29 PM

And Donald's do?

Stephen Cross · 12:29 PM

Absolutely.

Josh Evans · 12:29 PM

Why?

Stephen Cross · 12:30 PM

His flaws are dangerous.

Josh Evans · 12:30 PM

How

Josh Evans · 12:30 PM

How?

Stephen Cross · 12:32 PM

The position requires the ability to stay calm and confident in the face of intensity. We have seen how easily he can get angry, thrown off course by a simple criticism.

Stephen Cross · 12:32 PM

With no regard for repercussion (DANGER), he responds "gun blazing" to the smallest attack.

Josh Evans · 12:32 PM

Isn't that better than NO response??

Stephen Cross · 12:33 PM

No, not necessarily. What do you teach your kids? If someone says something that isn't nice?

Josh Evans · 12:33 PM

To stand up for themselves

Stephen Cross · 12:34 PM

Sure, but to go to extremes immediately without thought of their safety or the safety of those around them?

Josh Evans · 12:34 PM

Of course not.

Stephen Cross · 12:34 PM

Do you teach them to be thoughtful in their response, maybe take a breathe and decide if this fight is worth it.

Josh Evans · 12:34 PM

Sure

Stephen Cross · 12:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from Todd Maness

“I teach my kids not use the word "stupid" about other people. They understand. They are 6 and 8. 😐”

Stephen Cross · 12:43 PM

Exactly my point. How can we put someone in charge that goes against everything we are trying to teach our kids?

Josh Evans · 12:44 PM

These are times of crisis guys.

Stephen Cross · 12:46 PM

Right, and I believe that is when our principles matter the most! Of course it is more challenging to stick to your beliefs during scarier times...

Stephen Cross · 12:47 PM

But it is then, when they are being tested the most, and when it is MOST important to exercise them.