Jordan Birnbaum

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Apr 4, 2013

KC
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Apr 4, 2013
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:00 AM

Hello Kelly!
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Kelly Carlin · 1:00 AM

Hey Jordan!
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:00 AM

So happy to have you here!
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Kelly Carlin · 1:01 AM

Happy to be here. Not sure where HERE is, but hey. Glad to be breathing in and out. ;-)
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:01 AM

Well said. So right before we define a new reality, a quick note to the audience
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:02 AM

That banner down below explains how to interact with each other - by listening, and then voting, Kelly and I get a sense of where you'd like to steer the discussion
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:02 AM

so with that said...
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:03 AM

Ms. Carlin, I have to say that the reason I came up with the title of this Tawk is because that is how I describe your podcast
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:03 AM

For anyone who doesn't know, it is called Waking From The American Dream
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Kelly Carlin · 1:03 AM

Yes. My podcast has become a place of discovery, exploration and irreverent musings. I love the freedom of the form.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:04 AM

It is where I have literally discovered my voice.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:04 AM

It leads to my first question, which is about the American Dream. Do you think we are waking up from something that has always been an illusion, or do you think the dream has been fundamentally taken apart?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:05 AM

Both.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:05 AM

I think that as a person who has been curious about non-dual states of consciousness, it can all be seen as an illusion.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:06 AM

But in this country, I believe my dad had it right - you have to be asleep to believe in it.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:06 AM

AND...
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Kelly Carlin · 1:06 AM

There was a time, when the average person could get some traction, move forward, improve their lot in life...
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Kelly Carlin · 1:07 AM

I feel like that has slowly been diminishing and that the neo-cons have one that battle.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from Andrei Berman

“can she elaborate on what is meant by the term "non dual consciousness"”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:07 AM

That is won that battle. Fucking homophones.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:07 AM

lol
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Kelly Carlin · 1:07 AM

Yes. Well I will try.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:08 AM

non-dual is when you see all sides being equal - there is no dichotomy.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:08 AM

no good/bad; right/wrong; pretty/ugly
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from David Kaufman

“What's her definition of neo-con? I tend to hear neo-con in the context pretty much exclusively of foreign policy, not with respect to what appears to be a question about economic progressivity.”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:08 AM

All IS ONE. Literally. What they call enlightenment. Nirvana. Etc. It is a
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Kelly Carlin · 1:08 AM

state of consciousness.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:09 AM

I think of the new-cons agenda that got started in the Reagan era...de-fund the safety net to build more bombs.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:10 AM

Trickle down, I guess is what they call it.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:10 AM

Before we delve totally into politics, you mentioned your Dad, and I wanted to ask you about A Carlin Home Companion
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Kelly Carlin · 1:10 AM

okay
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:10 AM

Everyone who has reviewed it lauds you for your honesty and bravery in expressing the tru complexities of your relationship with your dad. What do you surprises people the most?
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:11 AM

think
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Kelly Carlin · 1:11 AM

Most fans have an IDEA of who they think he is, but have no real concept of the man.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:12 AM

By telling stories that reveal his complexity, his humanness, his own struggle, I lift him gently off the pedestal.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:12 AM

well said
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Kelly Carlin · 1:12 AM

Kevin Smith said that he was surprised that my dad was a bit thin skinned when it came to what other comics thought of him.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:12 AM

that makes 2 of us
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Kelly Carlin · 1:13 AM

I play a video of Rick Moranis doing my dad on SCTV. It was hard for my dad to watch and take.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:13 AM

I guess there's no genius without pain?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:13 AM

My dad was highly competitive, which drove his genius.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:14 AM

what's it like for you emotionally to perform it? Cathartic? Exhausting?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:14 AM

Both. But really it brings me deep joy to connect with the audience, while they connect one last time with him.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:15 AM

That is why I do it...yes it is GREAT fun to perform, and do my work. But I created this piece
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Kelly Carlin · 1:15 AM

originally to give something to teh fans.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:16 AM

you certainly have. all right, ready to delve into far more existential crisis stuff?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:16 AM

And now I am learning how to be a performer. Which is my life's dream.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:16 AM

Yes. let's get DEEP. ha!
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:16 AM

OK - now before you answer this question, I'd actually rather you share what factors you'd consider when making a decision. Sound good?
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:17 AM

On a scale of 1-10, how would you rank humanity?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:18 AM

Wow. Big broad stroke. I LOVE humanity. I LOVE that we have a conscious mind. I grieve everyday that our species may go away and
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Kelly Carlin · 1:18 AM

that this conscious relationship with get to have with beauty, joy, sadness, nature may be lost.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:18 AM

And I feel that the reason there are those ten commandments
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Kelly Carlin · 1:19 AM

is b/c we DO NOT know how to be good to each other.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:19 AM

We must work very hard to push back against
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Kelly Carlin · 1:20 AM

our urges to take too much, take what is not ours, walk over others, etc. Mindfulness is work.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:20 AM

So you're saying a solid 5 then?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:20 AM

lol
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Kelly Carlin · 1:20 AM

I'm saying that humans saw our tendencies early on
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:21 AM

I mean, I do think 5 is the best answer. On the one hand it's a miracle we're still here, on the other hand we're totally fucked and it's our own fault
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Kelly Carlin · 1:21 AM

and that we all need a little more mindfulness of our attitudes and behaviors if we are going to work this shit out.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:22 AM

Ah, the free will thing....is it our fault, or are we hard wired for the ride, can we slow it down, BIG questions
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Kelly Carlin · 1:22 AM

Five is good. It fits on one hand.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:22 AM

LOL.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:23 AM

Maybe being more mindful IS BEING HUMAN at a new level.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:23 AM

So being familiar with your work, I would kind of describe you as scientifically spiritual. 1 - is that a good description?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:23 AM

I am fascinated by the potential for conscious evolution.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:24 AM

I think so. I am someone who honors my need for sacredness in my life.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:24 AM

I dont' source it from some deity.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:24 AM

I source it from the natural state of my mind. I am a trained Jungian psychologist.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:25 AM

So I line up with Jung on this. Secular, but able to have experiences of what he called the Numinous.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:25 AM

Now that I know you're Jungian, i'm going to press you to identify my archetype.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:25 AM

The Questioner. lol
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:26 AM

sweet
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:26 AM

So what do you think are society's assumptions about human nature? How are they accurate or not?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:27 AM

Sure. We have defined them, so they are accurate. But, then again, those who are doing the defining
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Kelly Carlin · 1:27 AM

usually have an agenda and the power.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:27 AM

The church defines us all as sinners
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:28 AM

do you think it's true that people are inherently lazy?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:28 AM

therefore we need THEM to save us. This is where is gets really ugly really fast.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:28 AM

I think that this universe has both entropy and order otherwise we wouldnt' be here.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:28 AM

I don't see how we got here with a lazy nature.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:29 AM

People have been doing shit for millennia!
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Kelly Carlin · 1:29 AM

Always some guy tinkering with this thing, improving another thing....
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:29 AM

well said - so that's an assumption I think capitalism / society has wrong
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Kelly Carlin · 1:29 AM

We are some busy people!!
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:30 AM

All right. Are people corrupt or corrupted?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:30 AM

Hmmmmm
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Kelly Carlin · 1:30 AM

I don't think we can separate individuals from systems.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:30 AM

We make up the systems.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:30 AM

I think that when you get enough people in a room...
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Kelly Carlin · 1:31 AM

someone is going to want to find a way to get around the rules. Some will want to obey them..
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:31 AM

So does that ultimately lead us to be defined by the lunatic fringe?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:32 AM

Do you mean RWNJs?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:32 AM

or a general lunatic fringe?
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:32 AM

I wish I knew what that stands for...
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Kelly Carlin · 1:32 AM

Right wing nut job
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:32 AM

I just mean the people at the extremes
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Kelly Carlin · 1:32 AM

Aw!
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:32 AM

of anything
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:32 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“hey who is Jordan calling a lunatic?!”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:32 AM

Yes, well....I think that the fringe pulls the culture along.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:33 AM

Then it gets subsumed by it.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:33 AM

But
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Kelly Carlin · 1:33 AM

I think that right now, there is a LOUD minority of people who are fearful of their power going away. There world view is becoming
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Kelly Carlin · 1:33 AM

marginalized and they are afraid. they are scared, angry and armed. Not fun.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:34 AM

I belive that Jordan is calling fringe lunatic. I think a nice fringe is okay. ;-)
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:34 AM

lol
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:34 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

““Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that!" - George Carlin”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:35 AM

Yes, dad is every where and usually right. DAMN HIM.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:35 AM

Does this mean that progressives are too naive about human nature?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:35 AM

At times. Sure. That is part of seeing only part of the picture.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from David Kaufman

“I had a fringe once. Couldn't sit down for a week.”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:36 AM

Progressives see their part, and conservatives see theirs.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:36 AM

The whole picture includes EVERY perspective. But in this country
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Kelly Carlin · 1:36 AM

we don't get much from the middle.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:36 AM

All the nice shades of gray.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:37 AM

Do you think there is a substantive difference between Democrats and Republicans outside of rhetoric?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:37 AM

Yes.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:37 AM

I believe that in general Dems are MORE for people and Reps are MORE about property.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:37 AM

Rights and Freedoms is another way to look at it.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:38 AM

But we need both.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:38 AM

We need freedom to exercise our rights
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Kelly Carlin · 1:38 AM

and we need our rights to have freedom.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:38 AM

I'm very curious how your dad felt about Obama.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:38 AM

He was very excited about the prospect of him becoming president.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:39 AM

He had just pulled ahead in the polls when my dad died.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:39 AM

Dad loved BIG historical moments. And surely this was to be one.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:39 AM

He felt that he would
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Kelly Carlin · 1:39 AM

bring some good to the people. Of course the recession hadn't hit yet.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:39 AM

But dad would not vote.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:40 AM

I was telling my friend today that unless you live in Ohio or Florida your vote is useless.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:40 AM

that whole electoral college thing has to go
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Kelly Carlin · 1:40 AM

B/c of the electoral college? I guess so. They have it down to counties from what I understand. It is FUCKED UP.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:41 AM

But I'm not much of a political wonk, so I don't live and breath this stuff. I'm much more interested in the big picture stuff.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:41 AM

Are you as frustrated as I am seeing this blatant corruption out in the open with virtually no consequences for anyone?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:42 AM

Yes. Money has undone our democracy.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:42 AM

It is over unless they can get it out of politics.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:42 AM

★ Spotlighted from David Kaufman

“But if the electoral college goes, then unless you live in California or New York your vote is useless.”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:43 AM

But this is what we are raised on...
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:43 AM

David - I don't think it's wrong that NY and CA should have more of a say - we have more of the people. Bill Maher is on this kick and I totally agree with him.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:43 AM

those with the most toys win. How can you fight against unrestrained longing for eternal adolescence? Who wants to do the adult thing?
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:43 AM

lol
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Kelly Carlin · 1:44 AM

No one WANTS to be a grown up. I don't. But here I am, having to be one. Do the right thing. It's hard. But, we will pay for it eventually.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:44 AM

So here's another question for you - do you think the members of the Tea Party and Occuppy movements moight actually be two sides of the same anti-corruption coin?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:44 AM

As dad said, pack your bags folks....
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Kelly Carlin · 1:45 AM

YES! I think they have that in common
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Kelly Carlin · 1:45 AM

I love that.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:45 AM

Can you imagine the potential if the two sides merged?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:45 AM

It fucks with all of our assumptions
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Kelly Carlin · 1:45 AM

It's what would have to happen to get some REAL momentum.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:46 AM

So of course I believe that the overwhelming majority of the Tea Party members are people who vote against their own interests. What do you make of that? IUs it n intelligence thing? Is it a repressed emotional thing? Is it a misinformation thing?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:47 AM

Hmmmm
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Kelly Carlin · 1:47 AM

Well, I think that it comes back to the American Dream. We all would like to believe that if we were given a fair shake
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Kelly Carlin · 1:47 AM

then we would have the chance to do BIG things with our lives.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:48 AM

But studies have found that we do not actually see the real probability in future thinking.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:48 AM

stupid people
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Kelly Carlin · 1:48 AM

We assume that we are more likely to win than we are. So I think that may play a part in it.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:49 AM

And, I think that there is a lot of MAGICAL THINKING
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:49 AM

it's amazing how much we have acomplished with these brains of ours
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Kelly Carlin · 1:49 AM

Truly!
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Kelly Carlin · 1:49 AM

pogo sticks!
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Kelly Carlin · 1:49 AM

You gotta love it.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:50 AM

OK - I want to share my favorite quote with you, and see if it makes you think of any particular moments in your life.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:50 AM

ok
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:50 AM

"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." -Voltaire
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Kelly Carlin · 1:50 AM

Yes!! This is the whole practice of meditation....
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Kelly Carlin · 1:51 AM

sitting with what is uncomfortable...
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Kelly Carlin · 1:51 AM

we LONG for certainty, and it does NOT EXIST EVEN FOR A SECOND.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:51 AM

It is a trick of the mind.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:51 AM

So, if you can sit in the unknown
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:51 AM

That's funny - I always considered that academically
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Kelly Carlin · 1:52 AM

you can then access true genius
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Kelly Carlin · 1:52 AM

you are free of needing to control everything.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:52 AM

Control is the DOWNFALL OF HUMANITY.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:52 AM

There. Now I have solved everything. HA!
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Kelly Carlin · 1:52 AM

And then an anvil drops on my head.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:53 AM

You did it! Just like I foretold!
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Kelly Carlin · 1:53 AM

lol
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:53 AM

I'm a prophet
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Kelly Carlin · 1:53 AM

Who just may profit.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:53 AM

In this economy?
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Kelly Carlin · 1:53 AM

Well, if you had a really cool food truck and a new app that Yahoo wants to buy...
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:54 AM

I hav a new app - I combine chicken fingers with potato skins
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Kelly Carlin · 1:54 AM

Oh, my. Heaven.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:54 AM

he shoots, he isses
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:54 AM

misses
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Kelly Carlin · 1:54 AM

or isses.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:55 AM

All right, so we're going to wind her down, I'm going to take you out with one last question, and then anything from the audience
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Kelly Carlin · 1:55 AM

okey dokey
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rachael Workman

“i'd download that app, jordan.”

Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from David Kaufman

“iArteries?”

Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:55 AM

had to get those in there first
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Kelly Carlin · 1:55 AM

lol
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:56 AM

OK - off the top of your head, what's the first law that needs to be changed in the US
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Kelly Carlin · 1:56 AM

the criminalization of marijuana. I mean, WTF. oh, and that whole drone thing. Oh, and that being able to detain US citizen thing....geez
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:57 AM

you cheated - that's more than 1.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:57 AM

In CA we can turn right on red. WE are FREAKS.
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Kelly Carlin · 1:57 AM

Ha!
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:57 AM

OK, I'm going to go look for some of the good comments I may have missed.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rob Mattheu

“I feel like I'm in the world's largest iPhone message.”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:58 AM

Any questions from the forum? Please make them easy.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“Kelly is an inspiration and totally kick ass funny too!”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:58 AM

;-)
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Kelly Carlin · 1:58 AM

Rob's made me laugh when I saw it.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“Cellphones are a curse, like crabs. Getting them might be fun, but in the end . . . .”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:59 AM

If the right and left extremes merge we will have an ouroborous
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from David Kaufman

“You wanted to know where there was overlap between fringes -- I'm seeing lots of ads in the right wing media for anti-drone ammo for shotguns.”

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Kelly Carlin · 1:59 AM

or some spelling of that word.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 1:59 AM

All right friends - that was so fun for me!
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Kelly Carlin · 1:59 AM

Me too.
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Kelly Carlin · 2:00 AM

I hope we didn't break anything.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:00 AM

Please do yourself a favor and check out Kelly's podcasts - her essays are AMAZING
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Kelly Carlin · 2:00 AM

And make sure to open the windows so mom and dad don't get pissed
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:00 AM

Kelly put up a link
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Kelly Carlin · 2:00 AM

Ah...thank you
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Kelly Carlin · 2:00 AM

www.kellycarlin.com is my site
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Kelly Carlin · 2:00 AM

smodcast.com/sir is for my podcast
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Kelly Carlin · 2:01 AM

Waking form the American Dream
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:01 AM

You are an amazing woman, Kelly. Thank you so much!
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“No Turn on Red!”

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Kelly Carlin · 2:01 AM

My pleasure. Thank you for having me Jordan. You are a god of typing.
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Kelly Carlin · 2:01 AM

And questions.
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:01 AM

Thanks all!
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Kelly Carlin · 2:01 AM

toodle ooooooooo
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:02 AM

And if you had fun, host a Tawk of your own!!!!!
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Rick Rosner

“Thanks, Kelly & Jordan!”

Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from ed goldsmith

“very cool....enjoyed Thank you”

Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Blake Ian

“Patience is suffering in place... Jordan we JUST had that convo a week ago!”

Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:02 AM

afew other cool quotes I missed
Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 2:03 AM

★ Spotlighted from Fred Smilow

“Last time I checked, there were very few adults running the show in DC & Wall Street”

Jordan Birnbaum

Jordan Birnbaum · 5:27 PM

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