Lee Camp

Host

Venezuela, Ukraine, & US Involvement

Feb 26, 2014·552 visitors

Eleanor Goldfield

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Stage· 277 messages

Feb 26, 2014

Comedian Lee Camp and rocker Eleanor Goldfield discuss the protests raging in Venezuela, the Ukraine and what it has to do with the US.

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“People are starting to realize what is truely important in the world today. Its not money or things its life itself.”

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

★ Spotlighted from Pat F

“Do we have anyone from Ukraine or the surrounding area here?”

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Hey everyone! Welcome to Tawkers!

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Say hi to my awesome co-host Eleanor Goldfield.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:00 AM

Hey everyone - thanks for joining this week's tawk. And say hi to Lee :)

Lee Camp · 12:00 AM

Let's talk about US influence in other people's shit - shall we??

Lee Camp · 12:01 AM

And first off - neither Eleanor nor I are experts on this. This is a discussion, not a lecture. So please get involved.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

Just in the past few days, a considerable amount of information has flooded the internet regarding both Venezuela and the Ukraine

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:01 AM

It all sounds like the familiar Shock Doctrine, Economic Hit Man strategy

Lee Camp · 12:02 AM

Yes, for those who haven't read Economic Hitman, I beg you to

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM

anyone who wants a sovereign nation outside the control of the US has to get re-arranged

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:02 AM

"spreading democracy"

Lee Camp · 12:03 AM

So I don't know if we have any Ukraine protesters in the room right now, but I will say that everything I've read shows the US has committed a lot of money to try to help the "opposition" but has not directly paid protesters, which has been claimed

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:03 AM

I saw that too. That the IMF has already put in a load of cash to support the opposition

Lee Camp · 12:04 AM

The reason we helped the Ukrainian gov't fall is because they seemed to be leaning more towards Russia than towards us and the EU.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:04 AM

And the NED, who admittedly "does what the CIA used to do covertly 25 years ago" is working directly with opposition leaders in Ukraine, such as Yulia Tymoshenko

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:05 AM

sorry, NED is National Endowment for Democracy, btw

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Daniel Jackson

“It is a colossal distraction, cant help but think this has all been played out in some backroom, while something else is slipping past our noses.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:05 AM

★ Spotlighted from Paul Fleischer

“The history of Ukraine is a minefield of struggle for hundreds of years...More recently it's east west trying to control. I wish both sides would get the heck out of the way.”

Lee Camp · 12:05 AM

In Venezuela, the US has been trying to take down President Nicolás Maduro for awhile, and Chavez before him.

Lee Camp · 12:06 AM

This doesn't mean there aren't problems in Venezuela unrelated to US action - it's not that black and white.

Lee Camp · 12:06 AM

However, fucking with the infrastructure in order to breed discontent among the people of the country - is in our playbook.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:06 AM

Not black and white, but certainly a lot of red, white and blue in there. We can't leave well enough alone.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:06 AM

There's a red thread going back to Mossadegh in Iran in 1953

Lee Camp · 12:06 AM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“Venezuela is business as usual for the U.S.”

Lee Camp · 12:07 AM

Very true, Drew.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:07 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

“they have to fuck up the infrastructure... otherwise Halliburton won't get paid to go fix it.”

Lee Camp · 12:07 AM

What's most interesting to look at the countries we try to topple and the ones we don't. We are more than happy to allow genocide as long as its in countries we have business deals with - countries that help consolidate our power.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:08 AM

Or countries with no natural resources

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:08 AM

★ Spotlighted from Paul Fleischer

“Oh yes...Wayne...After they destroy everything certain foreign actors get to rebuild.”

Lee Camp · 12:08 AM

We all saw the protests in Turkey - why did Obama not stand up and say President Erdogan should step down? Because we well with Erdogan - he's our ally largely.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:09 AM

Of course, @Paul - that's why the IMF is such a great business model. Lend people money to fund their "freedom" then enslave them with the debt they can never pay

Lee Camp · 12:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Pat F

“Venezuela was starting to have too many common sense policies in action, and the people were actually starting to prosper. We can't be having that shit! :P”

Lee Camp · 12:09 AM

★ Spotlighted from Daniel Jackson

“I wonder if dick cheany and Rockefeller, are watching the whole thing unfold on a big RISK board??”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:09 AM

Exactly Pat. Chavez wanted to keep oil revenues and use the money to fund education and social programs

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:09 AM

I mean - what kind of nonsense is that?

Lee Camp · 12:09 AM

Daniel - I think they piss on the board every once in awhile too.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:10 AM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“I think the best thing any of us can do to stop american imperialism. Is continue to fight for what's right here at home. A lot of what it comes down to is simple matters if you will. Such as Oil Oil Oil.”

Lee Camp · 12:10 AM

Eleanor - Yes, and this is what Chomsky calls the risk of the good example. One of the things that our power elite fear most if the "good example" of a country doing things a different way.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:11 AM

Well Drew - that imperialism is here at home too. If you look at the economic moves made here and abroad, they are very similar. We play that game on the home field too.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:11 AM

★ Spotlighted from Paul Fleischer

“@Eleanore...It's now very obvious that that is the sole reason for our "support of democracy" Destroy and rebuild and then enslave.”

Lee Camp · 12:11 AM

I think one of things that they feared most about Occupy too was not the protests, but the communal living and the free clothes and food. Working together without profit - that really scares the shit out of them.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:11 AM

Exactly, Lee. Good examples that work - that's unacceptable

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:12 AM

Best to show how countries running themselves end in economic inflation, hysteria and eventual revolution.

Lee Camp · 12:12 AM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“But In more postive news How about Chuck Hagel. I love that guy.”

Lee Camp · 12:12 AM

But Drew - It seems he's cutting the actual man power rather than cutting all that much of the spending. We're still putting INSANE amounts of money into war.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:12 AM

more money to drones

Lee Camp · 12:12 AM

I think it's less of a cut than people think .

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:13 AM

less to troops

Lee Camp · 12:14 AM

Here's an interesting article on the protests going on in Thailand right now - http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/03/west-manufactures-opposition-movements/

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Timothy Almeida Jr.

“War is a racket.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:14 AM

A very very lucrative one @Timothy - for some

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:14 AM

★ Spotlighted from Fabre Geffrard

“yeah why is there so little coverage of the protests in thailand”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:14 AM

@Fabre - same reason there's no coverage of the behind-the-scenes in Venezuela or Ukraine

Lee Camp · 12:15 AM

By the way, can everyone quickly post that they're at this Tawk right now - just tell your FB friends to come on by!

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:15 AM

corporate media can't show what's really happening

Lee Camp · 12:15 AM

If you get a chance, watch the documentary "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" on the coup in Venezuela several years ago - when Chavez was taken out for less than a week. it's a really amazing documentary on how it happened and the US involvement

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:16 AM

Oh yeah - that's a great story too, just how that all unfolded.

Lee Camp · 12:16 AM

Beware any time the corporate media tells us that some President is AWFUL - sometimes it's true, but a lot of the time it's a democratically elected leader who did something Washington didn't like.

Lee Camp · 12:16 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I already posted it lee, many of my fiends spend free time behind the zombie box. :(”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:17 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“I think too often the discontent of the people is manipulated by some sort of "opposition" that is really more of the same. I'm sure you've read Howard Zinn's Peoples History. How do we avoid more of the same?”

Lee Camp · 12:17 AM

Tell me about it Kelly. They're probably fighting zombies on the screen too.

Lee Camp · 12:17 AM

Becca - It's just about waking up and waking more people up. The fact that you know enough to tell your friends about this is a step forward.

Lee Camp · 12:17 AM

Then we move on to getting the informed in power.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:18 AM

@Becca - the biggest threat to the freedom crusade is information

Lee Camp · 12:18 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sponge Saga

“It seem like all anybody cares about anymore is enterainment”

Lee Camp · 12:18 AM

Sponge - Well, both eleanor and I try to combine entertainment and info - comedy and info and music and info.

Lee Camp · 12:18 AM

Keep them entertained and learning at the same time.

Lee Camp · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

“don't mention IDF or mossad as being responsible for the bullshit as I did in the beginning or your comments will be censored as mine are being now.”

Lee Camp · 12:19 AM

What are you talking about? Nothing here has been censored.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:19 AM

which feeds into the idea that pop culture creates a socio-political paradigm. if pop cultures gives a shit, and pushes, politics will shift too

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:19 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jeff Kimball

“True Sponge... and if you constantly speak about real issues with people then they see you as a downer”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:20 AM

depends on how you present it. take lee for example

Lee Camp · 12:20 AM

Jeff - Throw a dick joke in there and you'll be fine.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:20 AM

i don't think he's ever been accused of being a downer

Lee Camp · 12:20 AM

Eleanor - EVER might be a stretch. :)

Lee Camp · 12:20 AM

★ Spotlighted from Jeff Kimball

“cheers Lee”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:20 AM

don't ruin my illusions lee

Lee Camp · 12:21 AM

Ha. Sorry. But yes, I think we have to make the miserable hysterical - or else people turn it off.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from Pat F

“We're all gonna die... *dick joke?*”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:21 AM

And to be honest, it's not hard. Like Lewis Black once said, "I couldn't even make this shit up. It's funny all on its own."

Lee Camp · 12:21 AM

Pat - "We won't know whether we're coming or going!"

Lee Camp · 12:21 AM

There you go.

Lee Camp · 12:21 AM

It's a Carlin joke.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:21 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

“Is it possible to get justin beiber and miley cyus to put on a concert in the middle of kiev now?”

Lee Camp · 12:22 AM

Eleanor - have you asked them?

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:22 AM

@Johnathonfall, are you trying to insight more riots?

Lee Camp · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Why is it people like goerge carlin bill hicks and this guy i hear about somewhere lee camp or something like that, Why do they use comedy with real issues?”

Lee Camp · 12:22 AM

Was that a genuine question?

Lee Camp · 12:22 AM

I just went through the reasons.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from Connor Bryan

“'Life is far too important to be taken seriously'”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:22 AM

★ Spotlighted from Pat F

“If someone comes back from the dead, can we vote for Carlin over Jesus?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:23 AM

amen Pat. Totally agree with you on that one

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:23 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“As for the situation in Ukraine/Venezuela, is it really about waking the people or is it about power struggles between the world powers. I think if the people of these countries are awake they still hold very little power.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:23 AM

@Becca - I think the problem is that the people don't know the whole story. They see economic downturn and see that Maduro is in power.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:24 AM

What they don't see is what's happening behind the scenes. There have been talks with opposition leaders in Venezuela since the early 2000s.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:24 AM

So when shit hits the fan and people get angry, and there's news and charming revolutionaries yelling "take to the streets," they do.

Lee Camp · 12:24 AM

Becca - Unfortunately it's a slow process. I agree that right now the larger power struggles are tough to stop or slow. However, look at how we backed off our threats to Syria. It was thanks to people becoming aware.

Lee Camp · 12:25 AM

I'm not saying they won't try again, but it was spread of information pure and simple that got Washington to back off the war hawk shit.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:25 AM

Syria was more loud - Venezuela is more insidious. It's not so blatantly obvious that we're behind it

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:25 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“Yes, Eleanor, it would be nice if we could all get the whole story”

Lee Camp · 12:26 AM

Yes, Eleanor's right. They understand the long game. There are plans to change a country years and sometimes decades in advance.

Lee Camp · 12:26 AM

★ Spotlighted from Paul Fleischer

“@ Becca They are more awake than people in North America...Simply due to their ongoing struggles of the past century...But they still get some students and others that don't really understand the underlying geopolitical influence.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:26 AM

Wikileaks is an informed citizen's best friend when it comes to the behind-the-scenes info

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:26 AM

Here's a good one to read when we're done with our tawk:

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:26 AM

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/22199-focus-how-washington-is-playing-venezuela-like-a-fiddle

Lee Camp · 12:26 AM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“It's important to realize how much the issues are engrained into the very foundation of U.S. politics. Energy, the power of the military industrial complex. The extent of a fact such as underground facilities across the country is unknowable.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:27 AM

Hi-lights US involvement in Venezuelan opposition affairs

Lee Camp · 12:27 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

“We are always behind all the nasty controlling bullshit around the world. Only now it is CORPORATE OWNED us government with their chosen politicians.”

Lee Camp · 12:27 AM

There's a lot of monetary war that goes on as well - I did a bit on how the Euro was designed to fail - in order to control several countries.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

“the corporations are global... they're in Canada too and many other countries that are fucking with other people”

Lee Camp · 12:28 AM

Here's my video (to watch later) on how the Euro was designed for debt enslavement - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj2D-UXRLas

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:28 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sponge Saga

“It about The US trying to turn a sovereign country into a "democracy". It's funny how Obama will support the take over a government. Do you think he would be OK with it happening in his country?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

That's a great video - definitely watch that when we're done here!

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

@Sponge - if the riots were aimed at keeping corporate powers in power, Obama would definitely be OK with it :)

Lee Camp · 12:29 AM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“If people just start waking up. Being conscious. Start doing things just as being more healthy. Buying locally organic and what not. It does seem to be happening faster.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:29 AM

@Drew - big movements start small. Again, like Lee said - information is the key. Get it out there

Lee Camp · 12:30 AM

There were more people in the streets for Occupy than in some countries where Obama or Bush has said "the President must step down"

Lee Camp · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Daniel Jackson

“local organic farming is going to be made illegal on the current path of legislation.”

Lee Camp · 12:30 AM

★ Spotlighted from Paul Fleischer

“I'd like to see Obummer condemn Qatar or Saudi Arabia....Never happen...Petro dollars speak loud.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:30 AM

Yep Paul - that'll never happen. Saudi Arabia is infallible - socially and politically, as long as they play ball

Lee Camp · 12:31 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“Look up aquaponics and permaculture.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:31 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“My goal in life is to get off the grid and grow my own food. Sick of toiling for these bastards, lol”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:31 AM

@Becca - it's a tricky balance. Unfortunately, I think that in order to effect change in the system, you have to live in the system, so to speak

Lee Camp · 12:31 AM

Speaking of all these US interventions, we're moving towards a world where nations matter less than corporations.

Lee Camp · 12:32 AM

We may not be talking about national power for much longer.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:32 AM

As they said in Network - there are no countries...only corporations.

Lee Camp · 12:32 AM

Trade deals are designed to consolidate pro-corporate law across borders.

Lee Camp · 12:32 AM

Everybody should watch NETWORK - best movie ever made.

Lee Camp · 12:32 AM

★ Spotlighted from j r

“Watch the Venezuela video! See People Power! (it brought me to tears!) http://www.lapatilla.com/site/2014/02/24/nueva-esparta-tambien-impidio-que-la-gn-se-llevaran-detenido-a-estudiante-video/”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:32 AM

So creepily prophetic

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:33 AM

Trade deals, loans - anything that makes it easier to control and take advantage of people worldwide.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from Connor Bryan

“How have I never heard of Network?!”

Lee Camp · 12:33 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathonfall thethird

“really Lee…even better than "They Live"”

Lee Camp · 12:33 AM

They Live is second.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:33 AM

Oh Connor - your world is about to change.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:33 AM

Go watch it

Lee Camp · 12:33 AM

Ha.

Lee Camp · 12:34 AM

Let's take a 5 min break from intervention and list all the best anti-corporatocracy movies!

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:34 AM

And books!

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:35 AM

b/c I'm a nerd.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Pat F

“Fight Club?”

Lee Camp · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“OH fight club totaly ya”

Lee Camp · 12:35 AM

Fight Club is great.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:35 AM

Shock Doctrine, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, Hopes & Prospects

Lee Camp · 12:35 AM

★ Spotlighted from Connor Bryan

“Will definitely check it out. Best I've watched recently are Earthlings, Thrive, and Home”

Lee Camp · 12:36 AM

Eleanor - You ruined the game!

Lee Camp · 12:36 AM

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:36 AM

The Corporation, The Four Horsemen

Lee Camp · 12:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“idiocracy lol”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:36 AM

Oh I know - I'm getting back to movies. Sorry :/

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sponge Saga

“what is that old movie when he put on the sunglasses he could see things for what they are?”

Lee Camp · 12:36 AM

Idiocracy is awesome - I'm amazed how often I have to quote that.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:36 AM

I was just thinking of that one, Sponge!

Lee Camp · 12:36 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sophia Belita

“wayne, if you like office space check out visioneers. its SOOO dark and funny and SPOT ON”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:36 AM

Can't remember the name of it

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:36 AM

Where he puts on glasses and he sees "Consume" "Buy"

Lee Camp · 12:36 AM

Sponge - They Live

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:37 AM

Ah, that's what it is.

Lee Camp · 12:37 AM

Starring Rowdy Roddy Piper

Lee Camp · 12:37 AM

Cousack tried to do one called "War Inc" but unfortunately it's a horrible movie. The points are good though.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:38 AM

I feel the same way about Idiocracy. Great concept. Fucking awful movie

Lee Camp · 12:38 AM

Man, so we were only able to list about 10 movies. That's kinda sad.

Lee Camp · 12:38 AM

Matrix actually works for a lot of these points.

Lee Camp · 12:38 AM

★ Spotlighted from Connor Bryan

“http://higherperspective.com/2013/11/119-documentaries-expand-consciousness.html prepare to lose your lives”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:39 AM

★ Spotlighted from Johnathan Curl

“You mean entertainment corporations don't make a lot of anti-corporate movies? Color me surprised.”

Lee Camp · 12:39 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sponge Saga

“Treme”

Lee Camp · 12:39 AM

The Wire perhaps?

Lee Camp · 12:39 AM

People say "Hunger Games" is - Seems like it might be working towards that message for kids.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:40 AM

Anyone seen House of Cards? I hear that touches on some of these points

Lee Camp · 12:40 AM

Avatar is actually a good anti-military movie (of course you have to accept the white male jesus figure)

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:40 AM

But I haven't watched it

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:40 AM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“V for Vendetta was awesome and fell into obscurity.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:40 AM

V for Vendetta - of course. Good call, Joshua

Lee Camp · 12:40 AM

How did we forget V?

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:40 AM

That's top 5 for me, easy

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:41 AM

Zeitgeist

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

“Robin Hood!! LOL”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:41 AM

★ Spotlighted from William Suphan

“I'm also reminded of Children of Men...the way that society was struggling to maintain "normality"”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:42 AM

There are documentaries out there but not many feature length flims touching on these subjects. Anyone a film maker and want to get on that?

Lee Camp · 12:42 AM

Insider

Lee Camp · 12:43 AM

Thank You For Smoking

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:43 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sophia Belita

“i am sorry eleanor but other then cooking i have no talent. i can cater the set!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:43 AM

Sophia - that is a damn important job!

Lee Camp · 12:44 AM

In these last 15 mins, we can either shift back to US Involvement in other countries or we can keep going on movies. I'm honestly cool with either. Glad to be adding movies to my "must see" list.

Lee Camp · 12:44 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sophia Belita

“yes wayne, thats how i found LEE CID series!”

Lee Camp · 12:44 AM

Here's my clip from Culture In Decline - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BoVW1cpm1I

Lee Camp · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“I was challenged with the question of watching sports and being politically aware hypocritical. If I choose to not spend every waking moment of my life researching politics why can't I enjoy a movie or sports every now and then?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“When I stop watching them I am still aware of the lies being told to me? Its like reading the bible to argue with ignorant christians. You have to be able to relate to people you want to argue with.”

Lee Camp · 12:45 AM

Josh - I agree. I'm not into many sports, but I certainly watch Breaking Bad now and again.

Lee Camp · 12:45 AM

We all have to escape or we burn out.

Lee Camp · 12:45 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“What would be the best course of action for US? Should we not be involved at all?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:45 AM

@Joshua - that brings up the point of living in the system you are fighting - and you know, enjoying life as well.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:45 AM

Both, in my opinion, are important

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:46 AM

@Becca - sovereign nations should be sovereign. Period.

Lee Camp · 12:46 AM

Becca - It depends on whether you're asking "best course" for American control or "best course" for people everywhere. I think we can love our country and still want us to get our hands and bombs out of other countreis.

Lee Camp · 12:46 AM

★ Spotlighted from Daniel Jackson

“entertainment is not the problem, lies, and lack of monies to enjoy entertainment is.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:47 AM

★ Spotlighted from Wayne Delorme

“i dislike nations... RBE FTW.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:47 AM

★ Spotlighted from Daniel Jackson

“The US needs to do the peoples work and mind their buisness at home instead of forcing it down the throats of the world.”

Lee Camp · 12:47 AM

Daniel - excessive entertainment can be a problem. And when all our news channels are going for ratings, it's a problem.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:47 AM

We are not the world police, nor are we the world freedom crusaders.

Lee Camp · 12:47 AM

EG - Nor are we the moral authority.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:47 AM

Ha - far from it, Lee. Far from it.

Lee Camp · 12:47 AM

Honestly, look at our track record. How can we be the ones to say who should die and who should live??

Lee Camp · 12:47 AM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“In the words of Ron Paul we cannot be the police of the world. We should spend money on our own people and solve our own problems before we start sticking our noses in other peoples business.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:48 AM

And who are we to say what "freedom" or "democracy" is.

Lee Camp · 12:48 AM

Josh - That's correct, but the truth is we aren't doing it to be the police. We're doing it to be the ruler.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:48 AM

King of a graveyard, soaked in oil and gold. The American dream

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from Connor Bryan

“I love researching this stuff and getting informed... but I don't think I would have too many friends if all I talked about was animal rights, revolution, and my man-crush on David Icke.”

Lee Camp · 12:48 AM

And furthermore we only love "democracy" when it benefits business interests. When it doesn't we have no need for it.

Lee Camp · 12:48 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike A.

“Lol I almost forgot how funny that rant was on culture in decline”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:49 AM

@Connor - it all depends on how you put it out there.

Lee Camp · 12:49 AM

Thanks Mike!

Lee Camp · 12:49 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sponge Saga

“they want us to think they are policing the world”

Lee Camp · 12:49 AM

Sponge - That's right. We're not. We're the dirty drug-money police.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“When the Iraq war started and they said we want to spread "Democracy" the first thing out of my mouth was, "Why are we fighting to give something to people we don't have? We are a Republic." But the thing is that people don't know that.”

Lee Camp · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from Mike A.

“No ty Lee! Its funny and true.. U can't go wrong w that”

Lee Camp · 12:50 AM

★ Spotlighted from Pat F

“Maybe on Obama's last day in office he'll legalize weed and order all the troops home and fly away on a unicorn? Can we still hope for that to happen?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:51 AM

@Joshua - we don't value popular uprisings either, but we always say we do when we create them in other countries.

Lee Camp · 12:51 AM

★ Spotlighted from John Durso

“America's capitalists are the strongest in the world. The army is there to prop up other failing capitalist/ neocolonial governments around the world.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:51 AM

It's pure propaganda. And it's been working really well for a half century

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:52 AM

★ Spotlighted from William Suphan

“If Obama sends us weed, I'd fear that it would be carried by a drone...”

Lee Camp · 12:52 AM

Becca - If people weren't waking up a little, it would be tough to explain Occupy or explain the discontentment with war or explain a number of other changes...

Lee Camp · 12:52 AM

I think gay marriage legalization and pot legalization are also thanks to more awareness from alternative media outlets.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“You liberate yourself by fighting back. Not running away. A bully takes my lunch money I punch him in the nose not switch schools.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from kelly mackin

“I find since 2012 people HAVE been waking up. We would not even be here if no one was waking.”

Lee Camp · 12:53 AM

Yes Josh - keep fighting.

Lee Camp · 12:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sponge Saga

“Lee I think it might be a distarction as well”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:53 AM

★ Spotlighted from William Suphan

“Problem with Occupy is that it wasn't serious. People weren't actually willing to stay put no matter what. While in Kiev, people put their lives on the line (and lost some).”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:53 AM

@William - occupy for sure had its problems

Lee Camp · 12:54 AM

Sponge - It is used as a distraction but at the same time it's progress. People are asking why pot shouldn't be legal - which leads to other such questions.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:54 AM

but the idea behind it - the idea of coming together publicly and fighting against corporate power

Lee Camp · 12:54 AM

Learning to question what is and isn't legal is a big step for a lot of America

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:54 AM

that's a powerful message, and the first of its kind

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:54 AM

now we need to refine our approach. but we are moving forward

Lee Camp · 12:54 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“Yes, I'd just like to thank you guys for introducing me to these tawks and getting my name on all Obama's lists. haha jk I was already on the lists”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:54 AM

@Becca - no problem! Have fun at the airports ;)

Lee Camp · 12:54 AM

Becca - As Chris Hedges said to me "You were already on all those lists"

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Paul Fleischer

“Occupy should have went home each night and reorganized each morning.”

Lee Camp · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sophia Belita

“if you're not on one list by now, you're not doing it right!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:55 AM

@Paul - they should have appointed a leader. There's no such thing as a leaderless movement. Every movement needs a point person.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from William Suphan

“A native American elder once told me that if you'er on an FBI list, that means you're doing something right :)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:55 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“I'd rather be on a list than be quiet and do as I'm told when I know its the wrong thing”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:56 AM

@Becca - exactly. Keep calm and carry on? Nope. Be loud and raise hell. :)

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:56 AM

★ Spotlighted from Paul Fleischer

“Yes some leadership would have gone a long way.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:56 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“I'd rather burn out than fade away, oh ya”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:57 AM

hahaha - ok, I think I may be officially in love with you Becca after you quoted Def Leppard. At least the 15 year old in me :)

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

Hey guys, just to throw it out there, Eleanor and I both have HUGE shows on March 16th - hers is in LA and mine is in NYC.

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

Tell your friends to come. I'm taping my first comedy special in 2 years.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:57 AM

yep - and Lee has a second night on the 17th b/c he's so awesome :)

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

leecampnyc.brownpapertickets.com

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

★ Spotlighted from William Suphan

“I really respect how they changed tactics and started buying and forgiving debt and helping in disaster areas, though. Serious hands on helping!”

Lee Camp · 12:57 AM

Will - Yes, Occupy has grown and changed, as it should.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:58 AM

If you can't make it out to the shows, be sure to follow and interact with us in the interweb ethos

Lee Camp · 12:58 AM

Worldwide Wave of Action starts April 4th!

Lee Camp · 12:58 AM

★ Spotlighted from Pat F

“Winnipeg would also buy Lee and Eleanor some beers.”

Lee Camp · 12:59 AM

Awesome. I'm there.

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from Daniel Jackson

“Congrats to both of you, thanks for giving a voice to all of us, and making sick jokes and songs to enlighten the masses.....”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from Sophia Belita

“whaaa eleanor??? interweb??”

Eleanor Goldfield · 12:59 AM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“Microbrews of course haha”

Lee Camp · 12:59 AM

We are just about finished here. Everybody please tell your friends about our weekly TAWKS. Also, quick question, would you guys be more likely to come if we had it on a weekend??

Lee Camp · 1:00 AM

Like 4pm EST on a Saturday?

Eleanor Goldfield · 1:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from William Suphan

“Any chance wither of you will be doing a show in AZ in the foreseeable future?”

Lee Camp · 1:00 AM

Will- I feel like out-of-staters get jailed for no reason there.

Lee Camp · 1:00 AM

★ Spotlighted from Daniel Jackson

“i vote weeknights...”

Eleanor Goldfield · 1:01 AM

@William - we may be in AZ sometime this year. Follow us on twitter, and fb - you can stay up to date there :)

Lee Camp · 1:01 AM

My 20 years since Bill Hicks death tribute video will be out tomorrow!

Eleanor Goldfield · 1:01 AM

★ Spotlighted from Becca Gambs

“weeknights. I drown my sorrows on the weekends, LOL”

Eleanor Goldfield · 1:01 AM

@rooftoprev @rooftopeleanor

Eleanor Goldfield · 1:01 AM

rooftoprevolutionaries.com

Lee Camp · 1:01 AM

My podcast is called "Moment of Clarity"

Lee Camp · 1:01 AM

Check it out everybody.

Eleanor Goldfield · 1:02 AM

It's fucking awesome.

Lee Camp · 1:02 AM

Have a good night everybody. Keep fighting.

Lee Camp · 1:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Tracy Speers

“Absolutely!”

Lee Camp · 1:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“Fuck yes. Will be checking out the bill hicks tribute. Keep fighting Lee.”

Lee Camp · 1:02 AM

★ Spotlighted from Joshua Richoux

“Good night Lee and Eleanor!”

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Lucy DyerFeb 24, 2014, 11:15 PM

I hope to get here but I'll be at a Hicks event and I don't know what time it finishes. Love you two and I'll make it it the next one,I promise :-)

Andrew PeaseFeb 25, 2014, 5:14 PM

Won't be around computer, this is one I did not want to miss.

Alyssa RöhrichtFeb 25, 2014, 5:47 PM

Really, really wanted to attend this one but grad classes wait for no one!

Lucy DyerFeb 25, 2014, 6:28 PM

ha! got my times wrong,its tomrorrow i'll be at a hicks event. ooops. still cant come tho. have fun Eleanor!

Sponge SagaFeb 25, 2014, 11:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2wRQXQbU_Y

Blake IanFeb 25, 2014, 11:40 PM

Nice, glad you guys are taking a look at this topic!

Blake IanFeb 25, 2014, 11:40 PM

Ill be here!

Sponge SagaFeb 25, 2014, 11:40 PM

? Twice ?

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:41 PM

Woot I made it. So, how does the war on personal freedom going?

Sponge SagaFeb 25, 2014, 11:42 PM

ohh, lol, I'm dumb :P

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:42 PM

Steven GearyFeb 25, 2014, 11:43 PM

GlobalRev?

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:43 PM

I don't believe in smart and stupid just knowledge and lack of knowledge.

Sponge SagaFeb 25, 2014, 11:44 PM

Thank You :D

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:45 PM

Some friends and I are going to try and write a new social contract. I would LOVE to have more females to help cuz we need equality everywhere as well as in the sexes. If anyone is interested in helping, friend me on facebook.

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:46 PM

It really should be writin by as many different people as possible.

David BrooksFeb 25, 2014, 11:47 PM

just seen on the news they found all the money laundering documents floating in a nearby river next to the mansion

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:47 PM

Whats that David Brooks? What money laundering?

David BrooksFeb 25, 2014, 11:48 PM

Ukrainian president, Kelly...they bum rushed the mansion, and he tried to cover all his tracks

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:49 PM

OHHH, HAHAHAAHAH I knew he was going for more money lol.

David BrooksFeb 25, 2014, 11:49 PM

Millions upon millions of money

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:50 PM

What does jessie ventura always say? follow the money? lol

David BrooksFeb 25, 2014, 11:50 PM

They gave a video tour of the mansion which is now being visited by the public and guarded by public volunteers. Everything is gold plated, they're pissed off hard.

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:51 PM

Addiction to shiny things? hmmmm Did he ever grow up eh? lol

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

People are starting to realize what is truely important in the world today. Its not money or things its life itself.

David BrooksFeb 25, 2014, 11:53 PM

Cashmire wardrobe was still full, a private zoo full of animals, the only thing that wasnt gold was the pure white steinway grand piano..lol

Pat FFeb 25, 2014, 11:54 PM★ Spotlighted

Do we have anyone from Ukraine or the surrounding area here?

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:55 PM

It would be nice.

Pat FFeb 25, 2014, 11:55 PM

I mean, I kinda fail to see what we can even discuss here.

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 25, 2014, 11:55 PM

I think upon closer examination of Venezuela & Ukraine, one would find IDF and Mossad elements.

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:55 PM

If anyone has an hour, this was an interesting watch.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uliLfykURYo

Pat FFeb 25, 2014, 11:55 PM

Shit's happening, we hope it doesn't get shittier.

Fabre GeffrardFeb 25, 2014, 11:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2djiD9iFsf8

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:56 PM

It really is us, we have to change.

Wayne DelormeFeb 25, 2014, 11:56 PM

things have to get shittier... things aren't shitty enough for the majority to want to change things...

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 25, 2014, 11:56 PM

Wasn't it just revealed that the IDF have been working with Colombia.

David BrooksFeb 25, 2014, 11:57 PM

I have a four hour documentary how the whole ball (kaball) got started leading up to present day

Wayne DelormeFeb 25, 2014, 11:57 PM

but hopefully not MUCH shittier....

Fabre GeffrardFeb 25, 2014, 11:57 PM

anyone who want to know more about the opposition groups in Venezuela go here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2djiD9iFsf8

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:57 PM

right on fabre

Sponge SagaFeb 25, 2014, 11:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2wRQXQbU_Y Revolution: The Truth About Ukraine

David BrooksFeb 25, 2014, 11:59 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgrDrdQKlg&list=PLyLJVvk8AvtA0NGNiVFeU8NZsAUmHaS4n

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:59 PM

NIce guys nice

kelly mackinFeb 25, 2014, 11:59 PM

INFORMAtION GASM

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:00 AM

Hey lee and eleanor

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:00 AM

hello

Fabre GeffrardFeb 26, 2014, 12:00 AM

hello

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:00 AM

Hey guys

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:00 AM

Hello!

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:00 AM

hi!!

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

yes

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

It's like red white and blue chunks of corn!

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

they're all up in Canada's shit right now.... fucking pipelines and fracking all over the place

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

We all need to facebook and twitter obama and others in goverment to stop these actions of terrorism.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

a Halliburton office just went up a couple blocks from my house... I scowl at it every time i pass by it.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

'I'm sick of the propaganda that manipulates me!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:02 AM

Don't watch tv without questioning everything about it.

Steven GearyFeb 26, 2014, 12:02 AM

So what is the deal?

Fabre GeffrardFeb 26, 2014, 12:02 AM

don't watch TV period.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:03 AM

Come to canada and lets take it over :).

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:03 AM

All I watch on TV now is The Walking Dead... kinda feels like reality TV.....

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:03 AM

Any discussion of US gov we have to remember that it is corporate owned and therefore corporate agenda pushed…ain't nothing to do about or for people.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:03 AM

So is this another proxy war between the US and RUS? Or is that just the CNN hype machine?

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:04 AM

Not in Ukraine, but in Istanbul #Geziprotest

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:04 AM

i just dont understand the video of the girl asking us to ask our gov't to help. seemed odd to me that they would think our corrupt gov't would help them oust theirs..

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:04 AM

re-arranged?

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:04 AM

well, if the gov't is corrupt... then let the IMF help the people all they want.

Fabre GeffrardFeb 26, 2014, 12:04 AM

why is the US fucking with Russia when Putin recently saved Obama face with the Syria red line thing?

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:05 AM★ Spotlighted

It is a colossal distraction, cant help but think this has all been played out in some backroom, while something else is slipping past our noses.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:05 AM

It's Fake Sophia

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:05 AM★ Spotlighted

The history of Ukraine is a minefield of struggle for hundreds of years...More recently it's east west trying to control. I wish both sides would get the heck out of the way.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:05 AM

Distractions... always gotta be looking over your shoulder and around the corner. They're everywhere!

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:06 AM

i thoughtso sponge, but by who and for what purpose?

David BrooksFeb 26, 2014, 12:06 AM

bummer i ccant get my volume to move

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:06 AM

it will move after a long time david

Fabre GeffrardFeb 26, 2014, 12:06 AM

don't the US have a $5million budget just fund oppositions in Venezuela

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:06 AM

took mine 2 weeks

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:06 AM

When is Venezuela, Ukraine, etc., going to come to the states?

David BrooksFeb 26, 2014, 12:06 AM

hehehe

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:06 AM★ Spotlighted

Venezuela is business as usual for the U.S.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:07 AM

Do they realize they dont have to fight we will build a east McDonalds and a west one...hahaha

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:07 AM

Yep..Venezuela is same type of situation but pressure mostly from the Western side.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:07 AM★ Spotlighted

they have to fuck up the infrastructure... otherwise Halliburton won't get paid to go fix it.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:07 AM

Theyll do there best to get there sticky fingers in Ukraine as well.

David BrooksFeb 26, 2014, 12:08 AM

Ukraine finance is now crashed

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:08 AM★ Spotlighted

Oh yes...Wayne...After they destroy everything certain foreign actors get to rebuild.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:08 AM

Doesn't Murika hate communism? They're sure cozy with China...

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM

My first time here. Is there no sound on this site? only chatting?

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM

AmTV was talking about 80% of oil runs tho the ukraine

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM★ Spotlighted

Venezuela was starting to have too many common sense policies in action, and the people were actually starting to prosper. We can't be having that shit! :P

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM

Just chatting Jeff

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM

no sound jeff

David BrooksFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM

Merika is too busy at the mall to care

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM★ Spotlighted

I wonder if dick cheany and Rockefeller, are watching the whole thing unfold on a big RISK board??

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM

Not to mention any other despot that bows to us...They get totally left alone.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM

Everyone should watch this video to learn how to become sovereign. This is a possible solution for some of the crap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2djiD9iFsf8

Fabre GeffrardFeb 26, 2014, 12:09 AM

what do you make of the people that have toppled the Ukrainian government?

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:10 AM

"dont whiz on the electric fence!"

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:10 AM

Nice ren and stimpy lol

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:10 AM

YES!!

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:10 AM★ Spotlighted

I think the best thing any of us can do to stop american imperialism. Is continue to fight for what's right here at home. A lot of what it comes down to is simple matters if you will. Such as Oil Oil Oil.

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:11 AM

US also has bases here in Turkey

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:11 AM

Obama was silent about the Gezi protests in Turkey because at the time he was trying to find an "in" to Syria. Turkey would be the US best bet for moving troops

David BrooksFeb 26, 2014, 12:11 AM

I think a large space rock is the answer

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:11 AM★ Spotlighted

@Eleanore...It's now very obvious that that is the sole reason for our "support of democracy" Destroy and rebuild and then enslave.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:11 AM

We need to leave oil and nuclear behind. Most say we can't afford it. That's the monetary system talking. We need to leave that behind too.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:11 AM

If we really want to see change in the world we need to nAct without worrying about the results, and strive for excellence without dwelling on it. If we put all of ournhearts into what we do without complaining, we can become one with the "Way."

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:11 AM★ Spotlighted

But In more postive news How about Chuck Hagel. I love that guy.

justine colonFeb 26, 2014, 12:12 AM

i agree with ya wayne

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:12 AM

easy fix, bust up the big companies into local entities, and end monopoly, set free any patient that benefits mankind as a whole.

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:12 AM

@ Lee - you betchya.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:12 AM

I'm still on the fence with Nuclear. So muc conflicting info on Fukushima...

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:13 AM

the navy just spent millions on a ship that doesnt even work!

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:13 AM

@ Drew...Propaganda for 2014 elections.

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:13 AM

Pat F Breaking the set on RT had an update this week on Fukishima that's frightening

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:13 AM

Insane amounts of money into war? I don't think the word insane is strong enough lol.

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:13 AM

That whole situation is frightening. As well as under-reported

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:13 AM

Ahh I missed that one Jeff, I'll check it out.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:13 AM

At least he's trying to do something. I have no idea how he made it into that office. They'd never let him run the whole show. Much work still to be done for sure.

Timothy Almeida Jr.Feb 26, 2014, 12:13 AM★ Spotlighted

War is a racket.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:14 AM

He is taking the military in the first step of where it does need to be going.

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:14 AM

Breaking the set http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6XlaP4LXc

Fabre GeffrardFeb 26, 2014, 12:14 AM★ Spotlighted

yeah why is there so little coverage of the protests in thailand

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:14 AM

war is what the world has hired us to do at the peril of our own citizens, in the name of corporate greed and democracy..

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:14 AM

@ Drew...I think the power mongers hate Chucky

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:14 AM

for later ;)

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:14 AM

maybe the are genuine?

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:15 AM

It is corporate us government behind all this very sad and unnecessary bullshit.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:15 AM

The problem I'm having is with these fanatical "Underground News" sources trying to make me crap my pants with radiation facts they pulled out of thin air. Thunderf00t debunked many of those myths...

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:15 AM

How do we address human behavior? How do we get people to learn more about themselves so they make better life choices. We give them this power, They get us to sign our lives away to them in sneaky underhanded ways. THAT is what needs to be fixed.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:15 AM

They have to. Only one who questioned the fact there was no plan for the Iraq invasion.

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:15 AM

thank Buddha for Thunderfoot

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:15 AM

and they don't show their real selves.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:15 AM

It's a train of thought Kelly

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:16 AM

Anyone been watching that new Vice documentary, Apocalypse Man? Shocking how little we're being told about Fukushima

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:16 AM★ Spotlighted

I already posted it lee, many of my fiends spend free time behind the zombie box. :(

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:16 AM

I wonder who was doing the shooting at the protesters in Kiev???

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:16 AM

unfucking believable…I am now being censored on tawkers most likely mentioning ID

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:16 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIoa7WU2Dfc Listen to his Stark honesty on 1/24/07

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:16 AM★ Spotlighted

I think too often the discontent of the people is manipulated by some sort of "opposition" that is really more of the same. I'm sure you've read Howard Zinn's Peoples History. How do we avoid more of the same?

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:16 AM

I'm still in shock about the what... 300,000 tons of toxic water dumping into the ocean every day....

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:16 AM

Michael Ruppert had my support for a long time. He's gone a bit off the crazy rail it seems as of late

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:17 AM

But me and Wayne delorme are friends.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:17 AM

LMAO lee ya some are on video games killing zombies I garentee it lol.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:18 AM★ Spotlighted

It seem like all anybody cares about anymore is enterainment

j rFeb 26, 2014, 12:18 AM

Have you see this it is Venezuela http://www.lapatilla.com/site/2014/02/24/nueva-esparta-tambien-impidio-que-la-gn-se-llevaran-detenido-a-estudiante-video/n People are starting to realize they have People Power. I hope we all wake up

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:18 AM

and superiority

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:18 AM

Dude, I'm all over this, I was born for this, I am a talker just ask wayne lol. I give my friends permission to tell me to stfu cuz i talk so much lol.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:18 AM

i've taken advantage of that right.

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:19 AM★ Spotlighted

don't mention IDF or mossad as being responsible for the bullshit as I did in the beginning or your comments will be censored as mine are being now.

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:19 AM★ Spotlighted

True Sponge... and if you constantly speak about real issues with people then they see you as a downer

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:19 AM

i think sponge was speaking more of the gambling and football type of entertainment that orwell warned about..

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:19 AM

Right! Sorry Lee

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:19 AM

YES totaly eleanor, we need the mind shift.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:20 AM

Hahaha

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:20 AM

let me ask you people one question. Can you silence you mind?

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:20 AM★ Spotlighted

cheers Lee

Timothy Almeida Jr.Feb 26, 2014, 12:20 AM

Haha. Dick jokes always work.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:20 AM★ Spotlighted

We're all gonna die... *dick joke?*

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:21 AM

@ Lee - I liked the earwax gun...Pretty hard core.

j rFeb 26, 2014, 12:21 AM

The comments switch so fast, page only shows one at a time, not really good to read what people say

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:21 AM★ Spotlighted

Is it possible to get justin beiber and miley cyus to put on a concert in the middle of kiev now?

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:22 AM★ Spotlighted

Why is it people like goerge carlin bill hicks and this guy i hear about somewhere lee camp or something like that, Why do they use comedy with real issues?

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:22 AM

i hope they never come back.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:22 AM

yes

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:22 AM★ Spotlighted

'Life is far too important to be taken seriously'

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:22 AM★ Spotlighted

If someone comes back from the dead, can we vote for Carlin over Jesus?

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:22 AM

comedians are supposed to get away with it... don't mind Russell Brand at the GQ's...

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:22 AM

lol i know but i type slowly lol

j rFeb 26, 2014, 12:23 AM

I am frustrated with this page, the "Tawkers" logo takes up half the page, comments scroll by super fast and cannot see old ones

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:23 AM

beacuse a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down...

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:23 AM★ Spotlighted

As for the situation in Ukraine/Venezuela, is it really about waking the people or is it about power struggles between the world powers. I think if the people of these countries are awake they still hold very little power.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:23 AM

Tawkers doesn't work well on Chrome, try Firefox

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:23 AM

I disagree Becca. I think it's that attitude that disempowers people

j rFeb 26, 2014, 12:23 AM

I AM on firefox!

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:23 AM

I had that issue last time j r

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:23 AM

not to mention conflicting reports of who's behind everything!!

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:24 AM

Well... shit.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:24 AM

I think the powers that be screwed up just as they are doing here, as soon as the comfort buble braks look for a fight here.

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:24 AM

At this point in game planet Earth survival, I am will to try anything Eleanor.

j rFeb 26, 2014, 12:24 AM

Watch the movie "Earthlings"

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:25 AM

Hey Canadians... check out "Into the Fire". It's about the protests at the G20 in Canada. 1105 people arrested.

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:25 AM★ Spotlighted

Yes, Eleanor, it would be nice if we could all get the whole story

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:25 AM

YA the syria stoppage was awesome.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:25 AM

I think syria was just a switch to plan b

Jeff KimballFeb 26, 2014, 12:25 AM

Just look around. There has never been a time in history where more massive protests have occurred and in so many cities. Look at the past 3 years. It's amazing what has happened

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:26 AM★ Spotlighted

@ Becca They are more awake than people in North America...Simply due to their ongoing struggles of the past century...But they still get some students and others that don't really understand the underlying geopolitical influence.

zack noggleFeb 26, 2014, 12:26 AM

I too was told the other day that my facebook posts were depressing and that I needed a cat to cheer up my day.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:26 AM

It might have been a switch daniel. thats the things we don't know cuz they always lie and there is no transperency.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:26 AM★ Spotlighted

It's important to realize how much the issues are engrained into the very foundation of U.S. politics. Energy, the power of the military industrial complex. The extent of a fact such as underground facilities across the country is unknowable.

David BrooksFeb 26, 2014, 12:26 AM

The Kaball realizes Islam is too strong to fight by normal war methods, so they will simply be forming cells in america and let the christians do the fighting. The stage is already set in the UK for this to happen.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:27 AM

they have less fighting if they would haved used a US model and legalize weed before they took everyones luch money!!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:27 AM

I know isn't it exiting jeff? I love it. The univierse is just laying it all before me and I'm just walking the path reading the road signs along the way.

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:27 AM★ Spotlighted

We are always behind all the nasty controlling bullshit around the world. Only now it is CORPORATE OWNED us government with their chosen politicians.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:27 AM

we are the nation chosen to be the world cops thats all i can see in this.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:28 AM

So aside from violent revolution, what's the fix? Money out of politics? Put some people in office that represent us, and not the Army/Walmart?

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:28 AM★ Spotlighted

the corporations are global... they're in Canada too and many other countries that are fucking with other people

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:28 AM

The declaration of independance was wrote from business owners. what did you expect.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:28 AM★ Spotlighted

It about The US trying to turn a sovereign country into a "democracy". It's funny how Obama will support the take over a government. Do you think he would be OK with it happening in his country?

j rFeb 26, 2014, 12:28 AM

Monsanto Ties within our Government - GMO Food causes infertility, Vaccines are causing diseases and death, Fukushima has poisoned our Oceans and Sea Life. These are Elephant in the Room things!

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:28 AM

So, Bush wants to re label PTSD, because there is a high instance of it...did he ever think stopping the war might cure the problem??

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:29 AM★ Spotlighted

If people just start waking up. Being conscious. Start doing things just as being more healthy. Buying locally organic and what not. It does seem to be happening faster.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:29 AM

lol

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:29 AM

Liked your stuff on The People's Voice earlier Lee mate. The backing down from Syria was very interesting indeed

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:29 AM

It's hard to buy organic for most people... it's really sad.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:30 AM

"Sorry, you're too poor to eat real food."

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:30 AM★ Spotlighted

local organic farming is going to be made illegal on the current path of legislation.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:30 AM

Awesome I wanna watch the eu planed failure. thanks lee.

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:30 AM★ Spotlighted

I'd like to see Obummer condemn Qatar or Saudi Arabia....Never happen...Petro dollars speak loud.

David BrooksFeb 26, 2014, 12:30 AM

I say we infiltrate the Illuminati and knock the pillars out from under the sods.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:30 AM★ Spotlighted

Look up aquaponics and permaculture.

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:30 AM★ Spotlighted

My goal in life is to get off the grid and grow my own food. Sick of toiling for these bastards, lol

j rFeb 26, 2014, 12:30 AM

So poor people deserve to be poisoned? What do we have these agencies for?!!!!!

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:31 AM

These corporate fuckers are such cowards they have to use the us gov and they have and continue to destroy the food supply through their misinformation and disinformation campaigns.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:31 AM

Becca watch this video then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj2D-UXRLas

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:31 AM

self sustainability is exacally what they dont want to happen, it interferes with there insurance payments for the false flag they are blowing up next week.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:31 AM

Solar is coming along. I've been impressed. Now just action needs to be taken to start implementing. No major funding yet.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:31 AM

yeah, the government thinks we are depant on them!

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:32 AM

@ Becca I'm pretty much there and it was my goal even before I became politically aware.

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:32 AM

Eleanor, if everyone stops buying their bullshit, can;t we win that way?

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:32 AM

I wish I had that option Becca.... they've got me on meds for the rest of my shortened, controlled, financially traded life.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:32 AM

LOL eleanor, That why I'm still in it

j rFeb 26, 2014, 12:32 AM★ Spotlighted

Watch the Venezuela video! See People Power! (it brought me to tears!) http://www.lapatilla.com/site/2014/02/24/nueva-esparta-tambien-impidio-que-la-gn-se-llevaran-detenido-a-estudiante-video/

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:33 AM

Paul, I envy you

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:33 AM

Visioneers is the best movie ever made, Lee..

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:33 AM★ Spotlighted

How have I never heard of Network?!

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:33 AM

really Lee…even better than "They Live"

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:34 AM

@ BeccaTook me thirty years and thanks...It feels pretty good. I wish you all the best in this endeavor.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:34 AM

who here has twitter or facebook? What if we all leave here and go ask questions to Obama?

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:34 AM

VISIONEERS!!!!

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:34 AM

Money is still and will always be the root of the evil, and love will always be the answer to its defeat!!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:35 AM

Soylent green

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:35 AM★ Spotlighted

Fight Club?

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:35 AM★ Spotlighted

OH fight club totaly ya

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:35 AM

meh

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:35 AM

Man I'm bad with movie names

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:35 AM

Graham Hancock fans? no? no?

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:35 AM

Office Space

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:35 AM★ Spotlighted

Will definitely check it out. Best I've watched recently are Earthlings, Thrive, and Home

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM★ Spotlighted

idiocracy lol

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM★ Spotlighted

wayne, if you like office space check out visioneers. its SOOO dark and funny and SPOT ON

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM★ Spotlighted

what is that old movie when he put on the sunglasses he could see things for what they are?

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM

they live already mentioned sponge lol

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM

lol

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM

my bad

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM

Has anybody seen "being there" with Peter Sellers?

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM

I need a transcript of this Tawk so I can recall all these films and stuff...

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:37 AM

THE CORPORATION is a Canadian documentary about the pathological pursuit of profit

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:37 AM

They live ya nice lee I was stuck

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:37 AM

s'ok it happens

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:37 AM

Oh Yess...They live.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:37 AM

Rowdy Roddy Piper went to my high school!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:37 AM

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all outta bubble gum LMAO :)

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:37 AM

I keep forgetting sorry guys.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:37 AM

That's awesome pat

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:38 AM

They Live and it is foxy news at the end.

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:38 AM★ Spotlighted

http://higherperspective.com/2013/11/119-documentaries-expand-consciousness.html prepare to lose your lives

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:38 AM

ya eleanor its hard to watch for sure lol

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:38 AM

If you look hard alot are.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:38 AM

I believe the war is coming to us, and they are setting up the rest of the world to cheer it on.

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:38 AM

Food Inc

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:38 AM

I guess the Matrix is kinda anti-corp... (I don't watch enough movies)

Johnathan CurlFeb 26, 2014, 12:38 AM★ Spotlighted

You mean entertainment corporations don't make a lot of anti-corporate movies? Color me surprised.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:39 AM★ Spotlighted

Treme

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:39 AM

Y'all I would start checking out some Peter Sellers movies (aside from the Pink Panther).

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:39 AM

OH ya the wire I would include

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:39 AM

I assume we've all seen the Zeitgeist series

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

Anyone see Dallas Buyers Club? That was surprisingly critical of Big Pharma for a hit movie

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM★ Spotlighted

V for Vendetta was awesome and fell into obscurity.

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

yes pat :-) have you seen esoteric agenda or kymatica?

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

Dam strait. Wayne got me hooked

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

Dogma

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

The World According to Monsatan

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

OMG how did we foget V :( we need bullets to the head lol.

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

hail to the V

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

I have it open in another tab Sophia, will watch later

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

Ben andersons vice doc. This is what winning looks like was top notch

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

the Jesus comment made me think of Dogma

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:40 AM

Yes V for Vendetta...for sure.

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:41 AM

I saw a preview for Hunger games last week and I became frightened.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:41 AM★ Spotlighted

Robin Hood!! LOL

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:41 AM★ Spotlighted

I'm also reminded of Children of Men...the way that society was struggling to maintain "normality"

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:41 AM

Kymatica is on youtube and is awesome

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:41 AM

Nice Wyane! Good Call!

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:42 AM

Star Wars

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:42 AM

I wanna know when Scrooge before he changes became the model for the perfect American?

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:42 AM

Yep this conversation proves we are ready to be invaded..hahaha...can someone pass the ritalin.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:42 AM

Star Wars is definitely an undercover mirror of the American Government.

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:42 AM

Siolent Green.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:42 AM

It's funny how the little guy vs. big business is a classic trope, but never gets played out in real life.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:43 AM

Culture In Decline series

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:43 AM★ Spotlighted

i am sorry eleanor but other then cooking i have no talent. i can cater the set!

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:43 AM

I did enjoy thank you for smoking haha. Especially the scene where he was kidnapped.

Nick RevellFeb 26, 2014, 12:43 AM

Morning Lee

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:43 AM

All things in life are better with limits, too bad we did not limit wealth.

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:44 AM★ Spotlighted

yes wayne, thats how i found LEE CID series!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:44 AM

Paradise or oblivion, Capitalism sucks, ungrip, Annunaki and anceint technology is acctualy very anti government lol.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:44 AM

me too Sophia

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:44 AM★ Spotlighted

I was challenged with the question of watching sports and being politically aware hypocritical. If I choose to not spend every waking moment of my life researching politics why can't I enjoy a movie or sports every now and then?

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

Culture in Decline is my facebook cover pic

Fabre GeffrardFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

tell me everyone here saw the film PsyWar. It covers the industry of Public Relation (previously known as propaganda) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXg70qJQ6O0

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM★ Spotlighted

When I stop watching them I am still aware of the lies being told to me? Its like reading the bible to argue with ignorant christians. You have to be able to relate to people you want to argue with.

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

i think the same guys who did UNGRIP made KYMATICA and ESOTERIC AGENDA

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

So yeah it would be so EASY for O to do the right thing but he is to loyal to his bosses.

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM★ Spotlighted

What would be the best course of action for US? Should we not be involved at all?

zack noggleFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

Anyone seen the documentary "The Four Horseman"? If so, what are your thoughts on it?

monica GFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

let's talk US involvement!!

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

Oblivion was pretty good @ Kelly and so was Minority Report

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM★ Spotlighted

entertainment is not the problem, lies, and lack of monies to enjoy entertainment is.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

TPP going to get :P

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:45 AM

TTP*

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:46 AM

blah

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:46 AM

one more try

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:46 AM

We are involved. This is just the case.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:46 AM

TTP going to get me!

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:46 AM★ Spotlighted

i dislike nations... RBE FTW.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:46 AM★ Spotlighted

The US needs to do the peoples work and mind their buisness at home instead of forcing it down the throats of the world.

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:47 AM

@ Becca...I don't think anyone would dare attack the US even if the Gov stopped the interventions

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:47 AM

one in four kids is hungry in america. if any other country did theat we'd be at war.. why spend BILLIONS on military?

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:47 AM

Ya, I'd like to stay out of it.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:47 AM★ Spotlighted

In the words of Ron Paul we cannot be the police of the world. We should spend money on our own people and solve our own problems before we start sticking our noses in other peoples business.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:47 AM

LMFAO eleanor I was writing that as you said it.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM

Having Russia or China become the sole superpower could only have been worse. However..

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM

I used to be a huge NFL fan, now I can't stand it. It's so sickeningly 'merrican. BEER BOOBS STARS STRIPES BLARGHGRGRGRG!

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM

Josh, some people may argue that if US does not Police the world, some other super poer will like Russia, China

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM

haha drew, my thoughts too

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM

We need balance, remember, Life is a wave and right now we are about to start rising agian..... I hope lol. If we sink anymore we are done.

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM

There's an excellent documentary about how Cuba was forced into sustainability, and how it actually made things better, if tougher: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgqn3bTekFA

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM★ Spotlighted

I love researching this stuff and getting informed... but I don't think I would have too many friends if all I talked about was animal rights, revolution, and my man-crush on David Icke.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM

Well its all a farce. A lie they tell to us to get us to go along with it. And even possibly a lie they tell themselves to make it easier for them to sleep at night.

Mike A.Feb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM★ Spotlighted

Lol I almost forgot how funny that rant was on culture in decline

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM★ Spotlighted

they want us to think they are policing the world

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:48 AM

If O can't do the right thing then he needs to get the fuck out of there and he doesn't appear to be moving. Have you ever wanted to quit your job and your boss won't let you?

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:49 AM

maybe you need some less shallow friends?

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:49 AM

i like all of you :-)

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:49 AM★ Spotlighted

When the Iraq war started and they said we want to spread "Democracy" the first thing out of my mouth was, "Why are we fighting to give something to people we don't have? We are a Republic." But the thing is that people don't know that.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:49 AM

They are calling the world on by suporting oppressive regimes in other countries.

Guy Ellis HreinbergFeb 26, 2014, 12:49 AM

Direct democracy was used in Iceland for four centuries. It worked really well, and we're trying to get it back.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:49 AM

It seems inevidable whan man tries to usurp nature, nature always wins, and we are about to shoot ourselves in the foot.

Connor BryanFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM

Yeah true, nice for you guys to merge serious issues with art and entertainment

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM

Well, considering the beatdowns we give other countries...we kind of are the police ;)

Mike A.Feb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM★ Spotlighted

No ty Lee! Its funny and true.. U can't go wrong w that

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM

I show it to anyone with "Consumption-Vanity Disorder"

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM★ Spotlighted

Maybe on Obama's last day in office he'll legalize weed and order all the troops home and fly away on a unicorn? Can we still hope for that to happen?

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM

From Liveleak and warning VERY GRAPHIC. People get sucked into these things and the Bankers laugh...http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=729_1393335320

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM

I think its hard for people to decide whats a credible news source in order to actually get informed

John DursoFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM★ Spotlighted

America's capitalists are the strongest in the world. The army is there to prop up other failing capitalist/ neocolonial governments around the world.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM

To be honest I think its extremely likely the fucks are so corrupt and greedy they're directly trafficking back heroin from Afghanistan.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:50 AM

If you see it on the TV question it.

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:51 AM

i;ve had family scoff at me for reading truthdig, like wtf

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:51 AM

LOL Yep the dirty drug money police, By the way, how much is a oz of blow now anyways LMAO kidding don't answer.

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:51 AM

It is all about DOING THE RIGHT THING and these fuckers in charge aren't allowing, ain't facilitating.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:51 AM

Ventura wants to legalize weed and bring the troops home

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:51 AM

Ventura also moved out the country.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:51 AM

Great show of Patriotism

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:51 AM

to liberate himself

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:52 AM★ Spotlighted

If Obama sends us weed, I'd fear that it would be carried by a drone...

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:52 AM

He also wants to do away with income tax and just tax products as we buy them.

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:52 AM

what he says he wants to do and what he will be able to do once in office are 2 different things. youtube BILL HICKS presidential agenda lol

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:52 AM

Thank the powers that be for the age of aquarius...can someone flip the HAIR album plz.

John DursoFeb 26, 2014, 12:52 AM

The Army and the CIA I should have said, and the rest of the state's security apparatus.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:52 AM

he was tired of living in a police state.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:52 AM★ Spotlighted

You liberate yourself by fighting back. Not running away. A bully takes my lunch money I punch him in the nose not switch schools.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM★ Spotlighted

I find since 2012 people HAVE been waking up. We would not even be here if no one was waking.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM

then go punch obama, not ventura

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM

"if a man shall lie with another man he shall be stoned" we were just reading it wrong the whole time!

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM★ Spotlighted

Lee I think it might be a distarction as well

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM

Yes pot and marijuana are right at the seem of good government vs bad government.

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM★ Spotlighted

Problem with Occupy is that it wasn't serious. People weren't actually willing to stay put no matter what. While in Kiev, people put their lives on the line (and lost some).

Jonathan bellFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM

Starving the beast

David BrooksFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM

down with the NWO. Rest easy peeps and hang in there wherever you are. Hold no hope in politics, hold all your hope in God above, Hes the only one that can pull this through. Peace

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:53 AM

gay marriage i meant whatevs.

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:54 AM★ Spotlighted

Yes, I'd just like to thank you guys for introducing me to these tawks and getting my name on all Obama's lists. haha jk I was already on the lists

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:54 AM

I do. I punch at Ron Paul. Ventura. Alex Jones. Mark Dice. Even though some of the things they say are truthful I don't agree with anybody 100%. I think Lee is the first guy I kinda can see eye to eye with on most issues.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:54 AM

when the walls of comfort come tumbling down , then and only then will we fight as we should have all along.

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:54 AM

Yeah, I mean I attended and supported, but well, it's America...I definitely support the driving cause.

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:54 AM

monica GFeb 26, 2014, 12:54 AM

We have the power. Even frodo and samwise defeated their enemy, and with the help of their friends, the eye of sauron was distracted:)

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:54 AM★ Spotlighted

Occupy should have went home each night and reorganized each morning.

zack noggleFeb 26, 2014, 12:54 AM

it should be dicriminalized not legalized

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM★ Spotlighted

if you're not on one list by now, you're not doing it right!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM

Dam it get hard to click like on someones comment when they go by so fast lol The next in line gets it lol.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM

So when does the US military leave at night and then come home then go back out of the country to fight?

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM

ZACH GETS IT

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM★ Spotlighted

I'd rather be on a list than be quiet and do as I'm told when I know its the wrong thing

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM★ Spotlighted

A native American elder once told me that if you'er on an FBI list, that means you're doing something right :)

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM

Yes..That's another thing we are all on the lists now so.

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM

the corps want their nasty-ass food to spread throughout the world.

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM

Decriminalized not legalized is a stupid argument. It completely leaves the illegal market in place.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:55 AM

LOL I had my email hacked in 6 days of twittering obama I"M ON tHE LIST lol.

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM

drew, look at amsterdam

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM

Unless everyone starts growing it and no one buys from drug cartels.

zack noggleFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM

There will always be an illegal market for everything.

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM★ Spotlighted

Yes some leadership would have gone a long way.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM

Hey Sarah Palin could run the Ukraine EXCELLENT IDEA!!

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM★ Spotlighted

I'd rather burn out than fade away, oh ya

monica GFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM

Eleanor, that should be sold on cofee mugs instead!

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM

Zack, only as long as there's inequality

John DursoFeb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM

Leadership would have been great, but the deal-breaker was the liberal pro-capitalist hijackers.

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

They want us to eat their gmo foods good for 2 years while they eat the fresh, organic stuff.

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

and i am in the middle of both :-(

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

If we encourage green energy, will that help eliminate some of these issues with venezuela?

zack noggleFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

Equality has nothing to do with.

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM★ Spotlighted

I really respect how they changed tactics and started buying and forgiving debt and helping in disaster areas, though. Serious hands on helping!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

I would prefer not to die but if you have a gun to my head I will be jake ummm guvara, dam I can't spell his name. go ahead and shoot you coward, you can kill the man but you can never kill the idea.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

You should do shows in NOLA Lee. I'd buy you a beer.

monica GFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

Congrats Lee!!!!

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:57 AM

You guys break a leg out there on the 16th!

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:58 AM

<~~~Poor, Minnesota

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:58 AM

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:58 AM

Yep I'm on occupies facebook, check in time to time. I need a candian place though, so I will make one lol.

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 12:58 AM★ Spotlighted

Winnipeg would also buy Lee and Eleanor some beers.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 12:58 AM★ Spotlighted

Congrats to both of you, thanks for giving a voice to all of us, and making sick jokes and songs to enlighten the masses.....

Mike A.Feb 26, 2014, 12:58 AM

I'll pick up the brown paper ticket if u pick up the air fare Lee

John DursoFeb 26, 2014, 12:58 AM

Btw Lee did you hear that a synagogue in Ukraine was firebombed today? The Fourth Reich is right around the corner.

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM

Now if only my home state (AZ) could pull it's head out of its blowhole...

Paul FleischerFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM

Cheers ya'll...Talk at chya soon.

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM★ Spotlighted

whaaa eleanor??? interweb??

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM★ Spotlighted

Microbrews of course haha

Tim LaroeFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM

I think it was Neil Young @ Eleanor 8)

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM

Winnipeg manitoba ? Dam man I'm in regina.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM

good tawk, thanks for hosting!

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM

I dont like cities. with all their buildings, and cars and such lol

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM★ Spotlighted

Any chance wither of you will be doing a show in AZ in the foreseeable future?

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 12:59 AM

Lee and Eleanor, you can have my social networks tho :P

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

week day better for me

Sophia BelitaFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

no i like weeknights :-)

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

but whatevs, i'll come when i can

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

Might make it easier but I am a musician. I am always busy.

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

Ya, sorry to say The states does have very watery beer compared to canada.

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

we could use it...

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM★ Spotlighted

i vote weeknights...

Tracy SpeersFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

Maybe you can channel Bill Hicks..20 years tomorrow.

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

well, there is that...

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 1:00 AM

I do my podcast on weeknights for that reason.

Becca GambsFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM★ Spotlighted

weeknights. I drown my sorrows on the weekends, LOL

Mike A.Feb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

Weekends are fine

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

Link Josh?

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

already done :)

Tracy SpeersFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

Awesome!!!!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

NICE LEE , I will totally check that out.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

www.mixlr.com/thetruthseeker

Johnathonfall thethirdFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

this time working for me

Mike A.Feb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

Maybe I'll have my profile completed by then...

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

Tomorrow night at 8pm central

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

sweet @ lee...hicks whoot, now if we can get lenny bruce to open for him...hummmm

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

Man bill hicks was awesome, I know some people didn't find him funny but I certianly do.

zack noggleFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

Anyone reading what's going on in the world with Bitcoin atm?

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 1:01 AM

Will do man.

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

MOC rocks if you dont have it get it.

monica GFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

thank you both for bringing us all here to discuss and share.

Tracy SpeersFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM★ Spotlighted

Absolutely!

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM★ Spotlighted

Fuck yes. Will be checking out the bill hicks tribute. Keep fighting Lee.

Joshua RichouxFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM★ Spotlighted

Good night Lee and Eleanor!

Pat FFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

Later guys :)

Sponge SagaFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

Thank you

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

man, why you gotta make feels about Hicks :( Actually, you're this generation's Bill Hicks, to be honest...thanks for what you do!

zack noggleFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

Night Lee!

Daniel JacksonFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

KEEP FIGHTING!!!

kelly mackinFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

Fight the good non violent fight everyone :). have a good life.

Wayne DelormeFeb 26, 2014, 1:02 AM

I stopped watching David Seaman because he won't stop riding the bitcoin train... won't shut up about it.

Mike A.Feb 26, 2014, 1:03 AM

Tawk to you all later

William SuphanFeb 26, 2014, 1:03 AM

have a great night you two!

Drew InglesFeb 26, 2014, 1:04 AM

Goodnight to all y'all. Dont text and drive and shit.

no moneyFeb 26, 2014, 1:09 AM

Ok sorry for going off topic, but this tawkers thing doesnt seem compatible with my android device. Which sucks.

j rFeb 26, 2014, 1:12 AM

Bad site, not working. Ad on the bottom blocking all the comments - latest firefox

Robert ArmasFeb 26, 2014, 2:43 AM

Lee Camp,since I started following you on FB,I always said that you were onto something.You address important topics.

Robert ArmasFeb 26, 2014, 2:45 AM

I don't foresee involvement of the US on the Ukraine situation,but maybe they will act in the Venezuela case,not sure yet,I have not much information.

Robert ArmasFeb 26, 2014, 2:54 AM

I am from Cuban parents and I'm not moved in any way for the burning of the flag.Lots of people are outraged here in Miami cause of this.I tell you why I'm not moved,cause I lived in Cuba during the years of Russian occupation,and man,I really hated

Robert ArmasFeb 26, 2014, 2:55 AM

...these Russians!So I understand what is to be practically occupied.

Abdullahi DerowFeb 26, 2014, 8:33 AM

What is US interest in other countries affair

Barbara LefevreFeb 26, 2014, 8:40 AM

Best book on this subject, especially as it pertains to South America: http://books.google.com/books/about/Latin_America.html?id=RNa6AAAAIAAJ

comet demutaFeb 26, 2014, 10:34 AM

Greets from oz apologies i forgot how a clock woks, or days of the week, was asked the other day, what day is it, i looked around nervously and replied today, i meant it to c:

comet demutaFeb 26, 2014, 10:36 AM

doh! it over lol