Lee Camp

Host

When's The Robot Uprising Happening?

Aug 5, 2014·1,917 visitors

Eleanor Goldfield

Cohost

Stage· 227 messages

Aug 5, 2014

Just a few weeks ago doctors for the first time allowed a paralyzed man to move his limbs by thinking about moving them. This means computers can be attached to a brain and then move a body with the thoughts. How far are we from the brain-in-a-jar scenario? Or the robot uprising? Or singularity? Join Eleanor Goldfield and I to cover the crazy tech advancements.

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

What's up folks?! Can you believe we made it through another week?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

Hey everyone! Thanks for joining us for this week's REVOLTING tawk! Please let everyone know you're here - tweet, text, post, email.

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

What's up Eleanor? How's Sweden?

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“Hello again EG and Lee! Nice topic this week.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:00 PM

I'm absolutely exhausted but I'm hanging in there - Sweden is fucking brilliant, as always :) How's the belly of the beast?

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

I saw on FB that you got punched in the face? WTF? Did you try to push capitalism on them over there??

Lee Camp · 11:00 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“how do i know this isnt the robot versions of Lee and EG?”

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

Lucy, this is definitely the robot versions.

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“Hows the eye El?”

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“EG kicked butt is what she did”

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“I can't wait for the release of sony walkman. You can listen to music while walking!!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:01 PM

Hahaha - I tried to give them some good old fashioned American freedom...apparently that's not popular. I had no idea

Lee Camp · 11:01 PM

John, if you came out with that, I feel like people would buy it.

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“get outta here,John! thats crazy talk”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:02 PM

Should've tried handing out walkmans instead...

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

So although we titled this Robot Uprising, we're actually just talking about ALL the insane tech advancements and where they're taking us.

Lee Camp · 11:02 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“only robotics i knew of till a few years ago, was Luke Skywalkers hand in starwars”

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

I think El already said it, but can you tell your friends you're here and that the water is just right?

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“There's definitely an overt transhumanist agenda being pushed”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:03 PM

And that water is a right ;)

Lee Camp · 11:03 PM

Can you define that, Phil?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:04 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“I'm a huge fan of Federico Pistono. I am sure you Lee know about him, TZM and all. :)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“Like the RFID chips etc., slow release of tech making it hip culture. Even my little brother wants a fucking robot arm”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“and don't Google want us to have a chip under the skin?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:05 PM

Those chips are creepy in my opinion

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:06 PM

I saw a legit youtube video about them being portrayed as great ideas in order to provide doctors and first responders with info such as your blood type and any allergies

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

Okay, folks, let's back up and talk about where we stand now. The pentagon did spend millions to come up with memory erasing pills.

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“how do we know we aren't eating/drinking little nano bots that make us hear/see things sub-consciously?”

Lee Camp · 11:06 PM

Lucy, stop eating "Nanobot" cereal!!

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“That humans are obsolete, imperfect blah blah, extra cult sauce”

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

But once there are reliable robots that have a million times more knowledge than any human, where does that leave us?

Lee Camp · 11:07 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“What do you mean. I don't believe even people in the pentagon don't know where we really stand technologically now. In my opinion”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

Well, we already have google in terms of instant knowledge

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:08 PM

but the human mind is far more than just facts

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

The story that gave me the idea for this tawk was about the first paralyzed man ever able to move his limbs with his thoughts - Doctors attached a computer to his brain and then electric pulses to his hands and he could move it with his thoughts.

Lee Camp · 11:08 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“I have always believed technology will make us or break us.”

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“Google bought Boston Dynamics, the crazy robotics company.”

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“I have no pants on!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

yeah, that was really awesome to see. but of course, it got me thinking 2001 space odyssey in terms of a rogue computer

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“If you recall, a doc was leaked indicating that we were dosing Gitmo detainees with Larium in order to wipe their memory of all the horrible shit we are doing to them. http://medicalmuckraker.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/truthout-gitmo-detainees-given-ne”

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“I do wonder why do we still have cashiers in supermarkets?”

Lee Camp · 11:09 PM

John - we don't really anymore. They're quickly disappearing.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

@John - automation is already here in that case - self check out

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:09 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“computers can't do everything....yet. one day we will all just fix robots”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:10 PM

does that then suggest that at some point, robots will have creative and emotional capacity?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“until a robot can find the price of the mislabeled gala apple, we still need people in the supermarket”

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

I know I've said this before on these tawks - but as computers take away all our jobs, that SHOULD be a good thing. It SHOULD mean we all get to enjoy our lives as the robots do the work. However, that's not the way Capitalism works. All the

Lee Camp · 11:11 PM

time/money savings goes only to the top percent.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:11 PM

hopefully as technology evolves, we as humans do too

Lee Camp · 11:12 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“less people to pay,Lee”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:12 PM

so by the time most of our lives are automated and robots have emotions, our twisted capitalism will be out or on its way out through the hard work of activists

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“if robots have all the jobs and all the people are retired, how do businesses make money? there would be absolutely NO working class and all the money would go to the CEOs”

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

Ben - it collapses.

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“quantum computing will be the breaking point when they become smarter than humans”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:13 PM

speaking of comparing things then - f.ex here in sweden right now, a lot of restaurants are closed for summer vacation and people aren't working for up to 6 weeks. nothing collapses - people just enjoy life. it is possible to do both - we just have

Lee Camp · 11:13 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“computers need people to program them,dont they? so they would be still in a job”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

to shift our paradigm

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

Lucy - one day they'll program themselves.

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“I agree with Lee. Quoting Mr.Pistone here: "Work should not be viewed as a requisite for survival. The phrase "earning a living" should disappear from our vernacular. We have enough for people to just be, without having to justifying their existence”

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“through often tedious, meaningless, or degrading work.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“thats just scary shit,right there”

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“Moore's law bitch. #YOLO”

Lee Camp · 11:14 PM

Drew, that was the first time someone say #YOLO on our Tawkers. Congrats.

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“ok, I can't be serious today”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

Really instead of fearing or being anti-technology, we should integrate the positives into our life

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

Deb - no need to be!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

like not having to work as much, and then continuously build our social structures around that - but that does take more work than just sitting back and waiting for google glass to come out

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“how can we be expected to embrace positive tech while also being weary of overreaching spying and other negatives”

Lee Camp · 11:15 PM

As 3D printing gets perfected and affordable, we will no longer need all the workers that "make" things either.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:15 PM

regulations, ben.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“because regulations work so well now right”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

we don't have any right now, ben

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

Ben - Isn't every law a matter of degrees?

Lee Camp · 11:16 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“unless they're being regulated by robots”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:16 PM

social and political structure that promotes technological advancement while maintaining regulation of said technology

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

it can be done, we just have to do it.

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 Here's an interview with a guy who said he made billions of injectable tracking chips. #Swag”

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“hey everyone ben,,rachel,,lee,,eleanor,,lucy ,,deborah i'm afraid i will have to scoff this pizza ...but i'm reading”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:17 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“To be fair, Ben has a point. Even our regulatory system has been infiltrated. The actual protocols to encrypt have been weakened by NSA ops.”

Lee Camp · 11:17 PM

Barry!! Don't go!! Just smash your cheese-covered face against the keyboard if you can hear me!!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:18 PM

there's no way to go back from there, however, michael and ben

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

Michael - How does that work?

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“That said, I think regulation, if applied thoroughly and with a well informed public, can be effective.”

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“yeah... we're never gonna have a well informed public”

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

Deb - The whole system relies on making sure the public is not well informed.

Lee Camp · 11:18 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“Bill Binney and others have talked about this - I can try to get the link for it. Hold on..”

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“3D printing is insane. May completely destroy gun control.”

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“question.....if we rely on robots for everything, wouldn't that make us extrememly vulnurable to a EMP attack? like, completely devastating?”

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

Ben - Yes, we will become inevitably vulnerable to any kind of electronic attack.

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“drew: what about home made nukes or bioweps? :)”

Lee Camp · 11:19 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“we could have more sex if we relied only on robots”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:19 PM

an EMP attack already would be devastating - from hospitals to entire server grids. we'd be fucked on a lot of levels, even today

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

Deb - for sex?

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“Here is a Guardian article on how the NSA and GCHQ has weakened protocols http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/16/nsa-gchq-undermine-internet-security”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“you can 3D print solar panels now. which can only be a good thing”

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“LOL sorry, can't get serious... I'll watch... I LIKE to watch”

Lee Camp · 11:20 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“robot sex?”

Lee Camp · 11:21 PM

We finally got Ben's attention.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:21 PM

well technically that's what a vibrator is, no?

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

So I brought up the computer that could move body parts from a brain's thoughts. Does that mean the brain-in-a-jar could happen one day?

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“open source robotic sex.. ok”

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

open whores robotic sex?

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“I think Kurzweil or somebody has talked about how one day we will have the ability to swap nervous systems with lovers via nanotech - so you can experience what others "feel" having sex w your body!! Not sure I like that idea..”

Lee Camp · 11:22 PM

Michael - that's the most horrifying thing I've ever heard.

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“"Here stands the new man. His conception of reality is a dance of electronic images fired into his forebrain. A gossamer construction of his masters design and so that he will not under any circumstances perceive the actual or the real.His happiness”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

that's creepy

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“is delivered through a tube or an electronic connection. His god lurks behind an electronic curtain and when the curtain is pulled away we find the CIA sorcerer and the media manipulator." Jim Keith:Mass control, Engineering Human Consciousness”

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Lee - I concur”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:23 PM

but also interesting. but i'm strange. getting back to brain-in-a-jar, i think so.

Lee Camp · 11:23 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“kurzweil is a bit crazy imho.”

Lee Camp · 11:24 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“what happens if your robot is hacked while you're having sex with it? or the NSA spies on you while doing it”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

it's really amazing but i can't help but think of what would happen if a chip fries or something inside the computer goes wrong. could you turn yourself into a murderer or something by accident?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:24 PM

or is that just a premise for a really awful sci-fi?

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

Ben - what happens if your BRAIN is hacked and then someone has sex with your wife through your brain!

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“if your erection lasts longer than 4 hours, your robot has been hacked by viagrabot”

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“i think we have a good concept for a movie. not sure what kind of movie, but yeah!”

Lee Camp · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“holy shit lee!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:25 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“Here is my theory: robots that become self-aware won't be the apocalypse in a violent sense. The apocalypse will be gradual. Sex robots and AI porn is going to prevent anybody from going to work anymore. Shit will just shut down.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

I agree with you Michael - well, on the apocalypse not being via robots directly

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

Michael - one of my favorite theories as to why no other alien life has contacted us is that maybe the every civilization ultimately gets advanced enough that the bread and circuses overwhelm it. Basically the aliens are busy shopping and having

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:26 PM

I think we'll be more directly responsible for shit falling apart. It's just easier to blame it on robots

Lee Camp · 11:26 PM

virtual sex.

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Lee -- that is a horrible scenario! LOL”

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“oh, so some people still go to work?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

oh, that's an awful theory

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

so much for other intelligent life

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

El - But not so far fetched.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ El - Exactly. Tech only facilitates or accents our abilities. In the end we still have the power to be the deciders of fate.”

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“omg nanostds”

Lee Camp · 11:27 PM

Ben - all STDs are nano

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from phil chipper

“Or put an Occulus Rift on in the future where CGI is indistinguishable from reality and program the video to show you instanly taking it off so you couldnt tell if you were jacked in or not”

Lee Camp · 11:28 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“michio kaku talks about the type 1,2 and 3 civiliziations. And the reason we don't see any of them is that transformation from type 0 to type 1 destroyed them.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

And because of that ability Michael - I don't think robots will ever "take over" so to speak. We may evolve to the point of devolving and allowing robots to think for us, act for us, etc. but fuck, I really hope we evolve enough to not let that

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:28 PM

happen

Lee Camp · 11:29 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Lee -- That is an excellent theory. Either that or they are so evolved that they are all "whaa? humans suck man lets stay away from them. they created the a-bomb. idiots. they outlaw this drug but not a natural drug. idiots."”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

Or we're part of their entertainment - they're just watching us like one big reality show

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:30 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“i'm sad that 80s movies about the future were bright and green and cool and new millenium futuristic movies are all dark and about control”

Lee Camp · 11:30 PM

Michael - that's another good theory. The aliens look down on us and think "fuck no." It would be like decided to make out with a diseased dog.

Lee Camp · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“Civilization is a race between disaster and education. -H.G. Wells”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:31 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ El - Agreed. I like neuroscientist Andy Clark's theory: we are natural cyborgs. Language, or even thought itself, is just as "unnatural" as technology. It wasn't there millions of years ago; we invented as we evolved from mushrooms to bipedals.”

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

We mentioned the memory erasing pills. And we've mentioned computers attached to the brain (that already exist) - what if they discover memory insertion devices? Then we don't need to DO anything, we just think we did.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:32 PM

Yep, Michael. Evolution is really just shedding functionality for a new, shiny one that serves us better as we grow.

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

In a lot of ways, I think we're monkeys with 21st century tools. Our bodies and brains aren't really suited for where we're headed.

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Lee -- diseased-dog make-out sesh - mmmmmm now that sounds like something I totally would opt out of.”

Lee Camp · 11:32 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Lee -- like the skin-jobs from Blade Runner!!!”

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“sometimes you guys unknowingly sleep with diseased dogs, no?”

Lee Camp · 11:33 PM

I know I do it. But it's out of self hatred.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:33 PM

what are they suited for, lee?

Lee Camp · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“They did that last year lee. Jeez. "MIT inserts memories in mice" http://www.themarysue.com/false-memories-mice/”

Lee Camp · 11:34 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“all the time deborah...i feel guilty afterwards tho”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:35 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Lee -- speaking of inserting memories, this was a theme explored by Philip K Dick. Here is one of my fav scenes from a fav film of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwJEb3vJvWY”

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“lol]”

Lee Camp · 11:36 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“but i wanted pizza. stupid pizza bot brought me ice cream?”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:36 PM

inserting memories might not be such a terrible thing, say for a person with dementia or alzheimers

Lee Camp · 11:37 PM

Yeah, but Eleanor, why would anyone do anything anymore? You could just think you did.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

of course, i'm taking the positive route and hoping humans use these tools for good. but i think it's worth considering

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:37 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“El - How dare you critique PKD's dystopia!! :) ;)”

Lee Camp · 11:37 PM

El - Stop being positive! This Tawk is for people who see the worst in everything!!

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“robotic tech can be made for good, like making news limbs for folk, or getting people to walk again, going into war torn places or whens theres been an earth quake.....”

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“lee: nihilism and misery ftw!”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:38 PM

because thinking you did something doesn't mean it happened - for example, if i think i paid my bills, that doesn't mean my electricity won't get turned off when reality proves that shit didn't actually happen

Lee Camp · 11:38 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“I love you Lee, but can't get with the program, I'm too punchy today”

Lee Camp · 11:39 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Ya El - how dare you grasp on to a straw of a straw of a dust mote of speck held by an anthropocentric finger called "hope."”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

i know lee, i'm sorry. it must be the lack of sleep that's getting to my brain and twisting my paradigm of depressive realism into hope...creepy.

Lee Camp · 11:39 PM

El - I suppose that's true, but if you think you had sex with Angelina, then it's clearly real. Who's gonna get the chance to ask her?

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:39 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“I believe we are undergoing what carl sagan believed. A civilization undergoing the chaos necessary before its ascent into the stars. (paraphrased) However it is a time of high risk.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

well, what about dreams that are so vivid you wake up not quite sure if it was real

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

Drew - We better get the fuck out of here soon because we're making it uninhabitable pretty damn quickly.

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“I've known a lot of human sex robots”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:40 PM

and hey, if someone wants to believe that, mazel tov. i'm sure that would make for a nice "memory"

Lee Camp · 11:40 PM

El - I wish those really happened.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

Me too Lee

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

Oh, except for nightmares. I guess. Depends.

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“robotic sex toys with enormous robotic limbs?”

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

Deb - you seem to have a fixation.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

yeah, the nightmares about murderous gnomes I could do without coming to fruition

Lee Camp · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“Drew - although, what of the law of entropy? that would have to be overturned by said theory. how can we be the dust of stars only to become out of the dust stars again??”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:41 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“by taking robotics this far, are we hurrying up evolution?”

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“deb: okay i'll bite. let's talk about benefits of not watching porn and not masturbating. ;)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:42 PM

evolution isn't a linear thing tho, is it? particularly mental evolution

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

John - Don't use "bite" and "masturbate" in the same sentence.

Lee Camp · 11:42 PM

El - Isn't technology moving WAY too fast for any traditional evolution?

Lee Camp · 11:43 PM

Imagine where our tech was 30 years ago. Evolution takes a million years. We're WAY outpacing nature. (or god if you're a god person)

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

you could certainly make that point, but the other point is that because human minds are creating this technology, clearly our minds are evolving at that speed

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:43 PM

absolutely. but here we are - using computers to type ideas and messages to one another

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

And the fact that I can do this AND use my sex bot at the same time, means I must have evolved certain abilities.

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“how close are we to singularity”

Lee Camp · 11:44 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“how come god/jesus never mentioned xbox in the bible”

Lee Camp · 11:45 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Lee - Right. Computers went from taking up the size of a commercial building, to being a million times cheaper and smaller, and a thousand times faster, fitting in our pocket - but we use it for dick picks and to troll on YouTube while we eat hohos”

Lee Camp · 11:46 PM

Michael - we don't always use technology for the best possible purpose?? Can the Large Hadron Collider be used for, like, a MASSIVE atomic blowjob?

Lee Camp · 11:46 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“@ Lee - oh my fuck. you might be on to something.”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:46 PM

that sounds kind of painful, actually

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

Isn't that what black holes are for? ....(Wow, I even hate me now.)

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“eleanor: didn't know who you were, had to check. Found out your folk devils-video. Damn! Some good singing! :)”

Lee Camp · 11:47 PM

John - Damn straight!

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“El - actually, now that you mention it, wasn't some chick hospitalized because of a nonstop rapid succession of orgasms which became painful after a while? did I hear that somewhere, or is that just more fantastical weird shit swirling around inbrain”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:47 PM

thanks john

Lee Camp · 11:48 PM

Michael - she shoulda asked the guy to leave.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:48 PM

hmmmm - induced by a robot? or separate discussion of just painful sex stories

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:49 PM

it is interesting to note that in a discussion about robotics, we veer towards the sexual...so, either we're all depraved or this is a microcosm of where humanity is headed...

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:50 PM

there lee, there's some depressive realism back in the mix for you

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Drew Ingles

“Im gona upload Miley Cyrus and the biebs Discography into Lee's head one day.”

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

I'll murder you.

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

This did become a sex heavy conversation.

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Barry Hamill

“eleanor dont act like you wouldn't”

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

I blame Barry.

Lee Camp · 11:50 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“underneath all the murder and control, aren't humans really just sex machines?”

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

Ben - all life is.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:51 PM

i like human on human sex barry - guess i'm just old fashioned that way

Lee Camp · 11:51 PM

I like human on human sex while wearing a 16th century frock - so I'm SUPER old fashioned.

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from John Henry

“lee: haha good one :)”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:52 PM

★ Spotlighted from Lucy Dyer

“@Lee - but lee, dont the pointy shoes get in the way?”

Lee Camp · 11:52 PM

I don't fuck with my feet. Not sure what others are up to.

Lee Camp · 11:53 PM

Might wrap this tawk up 4 mins early. Even though I think we were about to solve the origins of the universe.

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:53 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“El - But isn't sex when used for pleasure and not pure procreation a form of evolution that was innovated by culture? If so, it is on the same spectrum of technology also being used for pleasure..”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:54 PM

Interesting notion Michael - and the idea that it was inevitable because humans find sex to be pleasurable so we're more likely to do it even when there's no evolutionary "point" to it

Lee Camp · 11:54 PM

Everyone is welcome to hang out and keep hashing out when and where we will finally have sex with robots. You all rock! Please come back next tuesday! And tell your friends. And lastly, WATCH Redacted Tonight! It's all online!

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

http://bit.ly/RedactedTonight

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Deborah Hyatt

“I'm into human flesh”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

Yes, watch Lee's show - it's awesome!

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

Deb - sounds like you just admitted you're a cannibal.

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Ben Hertz

“thanks lee and eleanor!”

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“El and Lee - awesome tawk. Peace out peep.s”

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

And for anyone else who doesn't know who I am ;) rooftoprevolutionaries.com

Eleanor Goldfield · 11:55 PM

★ Spotlighted from Michael Micklow

“Yes watch REDACTED TONIGHT”

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

Listen to Rooftop Revs!

Lee Camp · 11:55 PM

And my podcast is "Moment of Clarity"

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Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 10:59 PM★ Spotlighted

Hello again EG and Lee! Nice topic this week.

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:00 PM★ Spotlighted

how do i know this isnt the robot versions of Lee and EG?

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:01 PM★ Spotlighted

Hows the eye El?

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:01 PM★ Spotlighted

EG kicked butt is what she did

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:01 PM★ Spotlighted

I can't wait for the release of sony walkman. You can listen to music while walking!!

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:01 PM★ Spotlighted

get outta here,John! thats crazy talk

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:02 PM★ Spotlighted

only robotics i knew of till a few years ago, was Luke Skywalkers hand in starwars

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:03 PM★ Spotlighted

There's definitely an overt transhumanist agenda being pushed

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:03 PM

done done and i whistled one message

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:04 PM★ Spotlighted

I'm a huge fan of Federico Pistono. I am sure you Lee know about him, TZM and all. :)

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:04 PM★ Spotlighted

Like the RFID chips etc., slow release of tech making it hip culture. Even my little brother wants a fucking robot arm

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:05 PM★ Spotlighted

and don't Google want us to have a chip under the skin?

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:05 PM

mind control

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

That humans are obsolete, imperfect blah blah, extra cult sauce

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:06 PM★ Spotlighted

how do we know we aren't eating/drinking little nano bots that make us hear/see things sub-consciously?

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:07 PM

but...but its SO tasty and and its has a little gift inside each box!

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:07 PM★ Spotlighted

What do you mean. I don't believe even people in the pentagon don't know where we really stand technologically now. In my opinion

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:07 PM

defunct and on the scrap heap

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:08 PM

@Lee -- Is it Larium that the Pentagon is using? Or Mefloquin?

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:08 PM★ Spotlighted

I have always believed technology will make us or break us.

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:08 PM

Google bought Boston Dynamics, the crazy robotics company.

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:08 PM

Wouldnt put it past them, they've done worse :) Watched transcendence recently, creep zone. The singularity has already happened in some Deep Underground Military Base

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

I have no pants on!

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

If you recall, a doc was leaked indicating that we were dosing Gitmo detainees with Larium in order to wipe their memory of all the horrible shit we are doing to them. http://medicalmuckraker.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/truthout-gitmo-detainees-given-ne

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:09 PM

theres a guy who lost his legs and arms who is hoping to get robotic limbs

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

I do wonder why do we still have cashiers in supermarkets?

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:09 PM

@John - thats where the self service check outs come in

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:09 PM★ Spotlighted

computers can't do everything....yet. one day we will all just fix robots

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:10 PM

they have already made robots that can think for themselves

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:10 PM★ Spotlighted

until a robot can find the price of the mislabeled gala apple, we still need people in the supermarket

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:11 PM

its inevitable,EG

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:11 PM

Robots are building satellites for the navy that would beam solar energy back to earth. http://www.ibtimes.com/us-navy-robots-build-satellite-would-beam-solar-energy-space-1562014

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:11 PM

they try to pass off galas as figis

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:11 PM

stupid robots can't compare apples to apples

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:11 PM★ Spotlighted

less people to pay,Lee

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:12 PM★ Spotlighted

if robots have all the jobs and all the people are retired, how do businesses make money? there would be absolutely NO working class and all the money would go to the CEOs

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:13 PM

all these kids that have used tech to advance/make life a little better - in the news one day,dont hear of them again.

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:13 PM

scanners are robotic and they can tell the diff between apples unless you switch scan codes

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:13 PM★ Spotlighted

quantum computing will be the breaking point when they become smarter than humans

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:13 PM★ Spotlighted

computers need people to program them,dont they? so they would be still in a job

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:13 PM

i'd love to sit home and not worry about bill, only oiling my robots joints

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:13 PM

we're still smarter because I can switch the scanner codes to trick the machine

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:13 PM

bills*

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

I agree with Lee. Quoting Mr.Pistone here: "Work should not be viewed as a requisite for survival. The phrase "earning a living" should disappear from our vernacular. We have enough for people to just be, without having to justifying their existence

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

through often tedious, meaningless, or degrading work.

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

Moore's law bitch. #YOLO

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

thats just scary shit,right there

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:14 PM

pistono even :)

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:14 PM

didnt google have a few quantum computers? plus the robotics hmmm

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:14 PM★ Spotlighted

ok, I can't be serious today

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:15 PM

give him a robot

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:15 PM

Unfortunately all the crazy awesome cutting edge technology is funneled through military use. For instance, GPS came from tracking Soviet subs.

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:15 PM★ Spotlighted

how can we be expected to embrace positive tech while also being weary of overreaching spying and other negatives

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:15 PM

citibank tossed it's employees to machines early on... atms in 7-11s instead of bank branches

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:16 PM★ Spotlighted

because regulations work so well now right

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:16 PM

am I on topic now or should I go back to scanning apples

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:16 PM

if robots can - and probably will - program themselves,how far do we take this robotic tech? wouldnt they also be able to hack other computers around the world?

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:16 PM★ Spotlighted

unless they're being regulated by robots

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:16 PM

like the three laws of robotics from irobot

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

hey everyone ben,,rachel,,lee,,eleanor,,lucy ,,deborah i'm afraid i will have to scoff this pizza ...but i'm reading

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 Here's an interview with a guy who said he made billions of injectable tracking chips. #Swag

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:17 PM

Barry, save me a slice!

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

To be fair, Ben has a point. Even our regulatory system has been infiltrated. The actual protocols to encrypt have been weakened by NSA ops.

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:17 PM

how long before we see a robot president/prime minister/? really cant be worse than what there is now

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:17 PM

now ben ...sorry its for me i tells ya

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:17 PM★ Spotlighted

That said, I think regulation, if applied thoroughly and with a well informed public, can be effective.

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

yeah... we're never gonna have a well informed public

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

question.....if we rely on robots for everything, wouldn't that make us extrememly vulnurable to a EMP attack? like, completely devastating?

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

Bill Binney and others have talked about this - I can try to get the link for it. Hold on..

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:18 PM★ Spotlighted

3D printing is insane. May completely destroy gun control.

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:19 PM★ Spotlighted

drew: what about home made nukes or bioweps? :)

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:19 PM★ Spotlighted

we could have more sex if we relied only on robots

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:19 PM★ Spotlighted

Here is a Guardian article on how the NSA and GCHQ has weakened protocols http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/16/nsa-gchq-undermine-internet-security

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

you can 3D print solar panels now. which can only be a good thing

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:20 PM

i mean, an EMP would be devastating now, but imagine in a future where no one can add or subtract!

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

LOL sorry, can't get serious... I'll watch... I LIKE to watch

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:20 PM

michael: open source my friend

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:20 PM★ Spotlighted

robot sex?

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:21 PM

is robotsex outlawed yet?

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:21 PM

already happened<Ben

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:21 PM

how'd it feel lucy?

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:21 PM

fucking awful.

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:21 PM

emotionless, right

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:21 PM

same as usual

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:21 PM★ Spotlighted

open source robotic sex.. ok

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:22 PM

i can only think of jude law in Lucy's hotel room

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:22 PM

vibrators make me look bad, but i don't care. im' lazy. :D

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:22 PM★ Spotlighted

I think Kurzweil or somebody has talked about how one day we will have the ability to swap nervous systems with lovers via nanotech - so you can experience what others "feel" having sex w your body!! Not sure I like that idea..

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:22 PM★ Spotlighted

"Here stands the new man. His conception of reality is a dance of electronic images fired into his forebrain. A gossamer construction of his masters design and so that he will not under any circumstances perceive the actual or the real.His happiness

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:22 PM★ Spotlighted

is delivered through a tube or an electronic connection. His god lurks behind an electronic curtain and when the curtain is pulled away we find the CIA sorcerer and the media manipulator." Jim Keith:Mass control, Engineering Human Consciousness

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:22 PM

like robocop

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:22 PM

good name for a book there, Lee

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee - I concur

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:23 PM★ Spotlighted

kurzweil is a bit crazy imho.

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:23 PM

i wanna get me my own C3-PO - human cyborg relations....or the cheap version Marvin the paranoid android

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:24 PM★ Spotlighted

what happens if your robot is hacked while you're having sex with it? or the NSA spies on you while doing it

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:24 PM

kinky stuff Ben

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:24 PM

i told you! nano bots!

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:24 PM★ Spotlighted

if your erection lasts longer than 4 hours, your robot has been hacked by viagrabot

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:24 PM

mega bots

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:24 PM

cryogenics - brain in a jar

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM

no viagrabots... when it's over, let it be over

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

i think we have a good concept for a movie. not sure what kind of movie, but yeah!

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

holy shit lee!

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

Here is my theory: robots that become self-aware won't be the apocalypse in a violent sense. The apocalypse will be gradual. Sex robots and AI porn is going to prevent anybody from going to work anymore. Shit will just shut down.

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM

We haven't even scratched the surface. Wtf is the worlds sole superpower keeping behind hanger doors. #spacetravel bitch

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM

will we still ge emails about viagrabot,Ben?

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM

eleanor: i think you could go cyberpsycho or something. happens to the best of us.

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee -- that is a horrible scenario! LOL

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:26 PM★ Spotlighted

oh, so some people still go to work?

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:26 PM

the side effects of viagrabot are mood swings, loss of consciousness, internal hemmoraging, nausea, throat pain, drowsiness, and if your robots erection lasts more than 4 hours, probably anal bleeding also

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:27 PM

and roboherpes

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:27 PM★ Spotlighted

@ El - Exactly. Tech only facilitates or accents our abilities. In the end we still have the power to be the deciders of fate.

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:27 PM★ Spotlighted

omg nanostds

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:27 PM

shopping and virtual sex? no male aliens then?

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:27 PM

wow, I thought Altheimer's was doing a great job

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:28 PM

i mean, nanobotstds

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:28 PM★ Spotlighted

Or put an Occulus Rift on in the future where CGI is indistinguishable from reality and program the video to show you instanly taking it off so you couldnt tell if you were jacked in or not

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:28 PM★ Spotlighted

michio kaku talks about the type 1,2 and 3 civiliziations. And the reason we don't see any of them is that transformation from type 0 to type 1 destroyed them.

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:28 PM

Star Trek has alot to answer for - tech wise

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:29 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee -- That is an excellent theory. Either that or they are so evolved that they are all "whaa? humans suck man lets stay away from them. they created the a-bomb. idiots. they outlaw this drug but not a natural drug. idiots."

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:30 PM★ Spotlighted

i'm sad that 80s movies about the future were bright and green and cool and new millenium futuristic movies are all dark and about control

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:30 PM

will you accept the bio-psychic nanite injection? Sponsored by the Gates family of New World Order vaccines to combat hyper-retardo ebola

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:30 PM

maybe we are their robots creations....

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:30 PM

it's just hard to think about the future without referencing movies. sorry

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:30 PM★ Spotlighted

Civilization is a race between disaster and education. -H.G. Wells

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:31 PM

how about The Prisoner Series... cops as enormous robotic clear bubbles

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:31 PM★ Spotlighted

@ El - Agreed. I like neuroscientist Andy Clark's theory: we are natural cyborgs. Language, or even thought itself, is just as "unnatural" as technology. It wasn't there millions of years ago; we invented as we evolved from mushrooms to bipedals.

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:32 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee -- diseased-dog make-out sesh - mmmmmm now that sounds like something I totally would opt out of.

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:32 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee -- like the skin-jobs from Blade Runner!!!

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:33 PM★ Spotlighted

sometimes you guys unknowingly sleep with diseased dogs, no?

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:33 PM

even monkeys are better at stuff than us

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:33 PM★ Spotlighted

They did that last year lee. Jeez. "MIT inserts memories in mice" http://www.themarysue.com/false-memories-mice/

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:34 PM★ Spotlighted

all the time deborah...i feel guilty afterwards tho

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:34 PM

I'm a 'senior' so I won't be here

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:34 PM

self hating jew might have been the funniest line on last weeks redacted. i do hate myself but not for being jewish

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:34 PM

cool Barry

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:34 PM

speaking of scifi movies, moon was great! :)

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:35 PM

Jewish and Catholic guilt are overrated... ENJOY! Take a chance

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:35 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee -- speaking of inserting memories, this was a theme explored by Philip K Dick. Here is one of my fav scenes from a fav film of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwJEb3vJvWY

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:35 PM

cheer up ben.....have some ice cream you will feel better in the morning

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

but i wanted pizza. stupid pizza bot brought me ice cream?

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:36 PM★ Spotlighted

lol]

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:36 PM

Europeans know how to 'holiday'

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:36 PM

@ El - True!

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:37 PM

even the 2 hour lunch breaks are unbearably boring

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:37 PM

ha ha deb...magaluf isn't really a holiday...its an adventure

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:37 PM★ Spotlighted

El - How dare you critique PKD's dystopia!! :) ;)

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:37 PM★ Spotlighted

robotic tech can be made for good, like making news limbs for folk, or getting people to walk again, going into war torn places or whens theres been an earth quake.....

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:37 PM

LOL

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:38 PM

inserting memories..sounds a little like Dolls House

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:38 PM

ALL kind of limbs

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:38 PM★ Spotlighted

lee: nihilism and misery ftw!

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:38 PM★ Spotlighted

I love you Lee, but can't get with the program, I'm too punchy today

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:38 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Ya El - how dare you grasp on to a straw of a straw of a dust mote of speck held by an anthropocentric finger called "hope."

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:39 PM

for shits and giggles i would insert a nightmare to somebody ...total recall style

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:39 PM

they are already thinking of replacing teachers with robots.

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:39 PM

thank you, you adorable you

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:39 PM★ Spotlighted

I believe we are undergoing what carl sagan believed. A civilization undergoing the chaos necessary before its ascent into the stars. (paraphrased) However it is a time of high risk.

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:39 PM

lucy, are these those sex robots we were talking about?

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:39 PM

i know i could have used a sex robot teacher when i was in elementary school

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:40 PM

@Ben - quite possibly

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:40 PM★ Spotlighted

I've known a lot of human sex robots

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:40 PM

hope its azimo style robot...and not those little chunky robots from the 80s

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:40 PM

I have those type of dreams so often

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:40 PM

@ Drew -- well said.

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:41 PM

what if when you dream, you are really living and when you are awake, that's really a dream

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

robotic sex toys with enormous robotic limbs?

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

Drew - although, what of the law of entropy? that would have to be overturned by said theory. how can we be the dust of stars only to become out of the dust stars again??

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:41 PM

ha ha deb giant limbs ahem

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:41 PM★ Spotlighted

by taking robotics this far, are we hurrying up evolution?

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:41 PM

yes... big giant limbs

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:42 PM★ Spotlighted

deb: okay i'll bite. let's talk about benefits of not watching porn and not masturbating. ;)

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:42 PM

There's so much bloody money in dirty energy its ridiculous.

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:42 PM

i see the entropy and i instantly think of Muse!!!

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:42 PM

LOL I'm almost 70, I've lost interest

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:42 PM

john there are no benefits to not doing that sinful business

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:42 PM

El - Murdering gnomes?? those two words should not be said in the same breath ever! that is like saying "we tortured some folks."

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:42 PM

lee: you should know. you self-hating dog lover :P

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:43 PM

its works, the system making sure we're not well informed... we're kinda doomed

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:43 PM

but overall evolution is a slow process. is it not? maybe the mind is the one thing that take longest to evolve

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:43 PM

Lee - Jinx.. that was weird

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:43 PM

deb i'm sure you've still got your mojo

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:43 PM

besides, down south - and i take this from Mr Hicks - theres folk who are still wanting their thumbs....

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:44 PM

are thumbs vestigial?

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

how close are we to singularity

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

how come god/jesus never mentioned xbox in the bible

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:44 PM

or they didn't get them YET

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:44 PM

Barry, you write the new bible

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:44 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee - Right. Computers went from taking up the size of a commercial building, to being a million times cheaper and smaller, and a thousand times faster, fitting in our pocket - but we use it for dick picks and to troll on YouTube while we eat hohos

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:45 PM

but had time to lambast gays...and foreigners

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:45 PM

@Lee - thats cos of your extra hand you hand surgically added the other month

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:45 PM

deb i should write the new bible....it would be bloody awesome

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:45 PM

I love youtube and hohos

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:46 PM

we need a bible that informs people all about reality

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:46 PM★ Spotlighted

@ Lee - oh my fuck. you might be on to something.

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:46 PM

the bible? for sex?

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:46 PM

they have zombiefied us with apps on phones,and kitten videos and pictures and...and...reality tv shows.

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:46 PM★ Spotlighted

eleanor: didn't know who you were, had to check. Found out your folk devils-video. Damn! Some good singing! :)

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:47 PM★ Spotlighted

El - actually, now that you mention it, wasn't some chick hospitalized because of a nonstop rapid succession of orgasms which became painful after a while? did I hear that somewhere, or is that just more fantastical weird shit swirling around inbrain

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:47 PM

will you be able to pick your robots gender before hand or will they all be asexual ? what about gay robot sex? will the catholic church hate gay robots? what about those who use them? i'd love to see lesbian robot sex....did i say that out loud?

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:48 PM

the hadron collider was a big waste of money....if they wanted some bowson particles i'm sure those chinese fellas would be only too happy to sell them some

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:48 PM

and now for the real issues: teambloom or teambieber?

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:48 PM

Brain in a jar... great idea, different one for any occasion

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:48 PM

ha ha ha ha a gay sex robot ...

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:49 PM

El - sorry, im far afield

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:49 PM

lee, don't steal my jokes dude!

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:49 PM

Michael, you're the only one on topic

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:49 PM

for whatever it is worth, it did happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIXTTHdY2Es

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:50 PM★ Spotlighted

Im gona upload Miley Cyrus and the biebs Discography into Lee's head one day.

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:50 PM

smut, sex toys, robots, brain insertions and more smut....my kinda tawk!

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:50 PM

El - it is all a trick of biology to get us to procreate.

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:50 PM★ Spotlighted

eleanor dont act like you wouldn't

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:50 PM

can't to that to Lee... we LOVE Lee

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:50 PM★ Spotlighted

underneath all the murder and control, aren't humans really just sex machines?

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:51 PM

Jesus barry - such a sick mind

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:51 PM

eleanor: we are oversexualized :(

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:51 PM

Twerk it hologram 2pac.

Johnathonfall thethirdAug 5, 2014, 11:51 PM

little late

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:51 PM

awe lee ..you're missing out dude

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:51 PM

life... food, sex, water, shelter

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:51 PM

and love

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:51 PM

LOL DREW

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:52 PM

then you have a peeping tom

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:52 PM

ok ..this robots would they be able to go to the shop for beer and smokes

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

lee: haha good one :)

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:52 PM★ Spotlighted

@Lee - but lee, dont the pointy shoes get in the way?

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:52 PM

you can't get mad if you wife cheats due to robotic interference

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:52 PM

ha ha ha dickfoot

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:53 PM★ Spotlighted

El - But isn't sex when used for pleasure and not pure procreation a form of evolution that was innovated by culture? If so, it is on the same spectrum of technology also being used for pleasure..

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:53 PM

that be 42, Lee

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:53 PM

wow 4 minutes early? you rebel!

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:53 PM

@ Lee - I got that pun. origins of the universe.

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:53 PM

a man wants to finish 4 mins early? mmm now theres a thing

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:53 PM

gangster as fook

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM

most men finish 4 minutes early LOL

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM

@Deb - thats true

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM

wall-e movie does say that if technology makes everything all "lmy little pony and friends" we become fat lazy fucks! omg!

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM

that's why you girls deserve robots to sex you for as long as you want

Drew InglesAug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM

Some of you should check out this interview on the tracking chips. Its interesting and insane. Guy wouldn't let the interview be published til he was dead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM★ Spotlighted

I'm into human flesh

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM

@Ben - fuck yes!! all fucking day!!!

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM

fuck that robot for 9 minutes!

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

El and Lee - awesome tawk. Peace out peep.s

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

thanks lee and eleanor!

John HenryAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM

tawktawk!

Michael MicklowAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM★ Spotlighted

Yes watch REDACTED TONIGHT

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM

when will i be able to get a robot who will cook me dinner drive me about town and do my job

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM

I'm available... I love to cook and drive, just not text and drive

phil chipperAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM

Bye folks. Now go godfuck yourleves :);

Lucy DyerAug 5, 2014, 11:55 PM

yes Redacted Tonight is a damn fine show - where they scrummage around in the pants of doom and mix it with a does of hilarity! love it!

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:56 PM

I LOVE REdacted

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:56 PM

sweet deb...i'll pm you my number

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:56 PM

cute Barry...

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:56 PM

I think my son is older than you are

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:56 PM

MOC is great, especially on 1.5 speed!

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:57 PM

i hit that button by accident the other day, Lee laughs so funny in 1.5x LOL

Johnathonfall thethirdAug 5, 2014, 11:57 PM

last week tonight breaking the set redacted tonight...where was this in the 70s/80s?

Barry HamillAug 5, 2014, 11:57 PM

em ok...not sure what you're implying here....but i like it

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:58 PM

ok, so when is the robot uprising happening? When we can program him to be sexual... then, the uprising

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:58 PM

we should start figuring out a way now, to hack all the future robots to become sexual. like a sexhack

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:59 PM

more please Michael Micklow...

Deborah HyattAug 5, 2014, 11:59 PM

I was actually paying attention

Ben HertzAug 5, 2014, 11:59 PM

bye kids

Deborah HyattAug 6, 2014, 12:00 AM

is the hour up? thanks, been fun, don't forget to eat apples

Johnathonfall thethirdAug 6, 2014, 12:00 AM

Automation in the USPS in the early 90s was a huge fucking mistake and has since caused massive loss of man-hours.

Deborah HyattAug 6, 2014, 12:00 AM

I agree Johathonfall

Johnathonfall thethirdAug 6, 2014, 12:01 AM

I eat organic apple from NZ.

Deborah HyattAug 6, 2014, 12:01 AM

groovy!

John HenryAug 6, 2014, 12:01 AM

here is a link to federico pistono reddit ama: http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2bmnt0/i_am_federico_pistono_author_of_robots_will_steal/

Deborah HyattAug 6, 2014, 12:01 AM

I'm in the armpit of AmeriKa, El-Lay

John HenryAug 6, 2014, 12:01 AM

check it out! :)

Johnathonfall thethirdAug 6, 2014, 12:02 AM

I thought tampa bay area was the americas armpit.

Johnathonfall thethirdAug 6, 2014, 12:02 AM

La a very dry and smelly armpit for sure.

Deborah HyattAug 6, 2014, 12:03 AM

Never been there, born here in Hollywood

Deborah HyattAug 6, 2014, 12:03 AM

it's gotten disgusting here

Deborah HyattAug 6, 2014, 12:03 AM

BUT... I've never had cockroaches

Johnathonfall thethirdAug 6, 2014, 12:05 AM

there needs to be water...I am so glad that I visited both presidential libraries in the area when last there...the place scared me.